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- When something's at 3%
to 4%, it's time to worry.

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- We really are one of the fastest
warming places on the planet right now.

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- The Gulf of Maine does not
give up her secrets very easily.

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- There's a lot of things to
be learned in this business.

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- What's one of the most important ones?

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- Don't trust the government.

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- I've hung on to a belief -- a way of life.

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- I just wanted to give my family
a little more than what I had.

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- Maybe you gotta fire
some of your employees,

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just like hundreds of
fishermen have been fired.

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- There was probably 45
people who worked here.

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Today we have seven.

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- And this is what science misses on.

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- So this really becomes a community loss.

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- The bottoms of these breeding
grounds have become virtual deserts.

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- There's no more cod on Cape Cod.

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- The last ice man of Gloucester.

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- Levels are pretty high.

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- From the wharfs to the fish dealers,
to the truckers, to the supermarkets,

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to our churches that are friggin' empty now.

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- It's the death of a way of life.

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- I really don't know why it is that
all of us are so committed to the sea,

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and it is an interesting biological
fact that all of us have in our veins

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the exact same percentage of salt in
our blood that exists in the ocean.

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And therefore we have salt in our
blood, in our sweat, in our tears.

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We are tied to the ocean.

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And when we go back to the sea, we
are going back from whence we came.

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- Well, I was born in Sicily.

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I was nine when we came
here, and we worked hard.

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I graduated Gloucester
High School and jumped

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in a fishing boat, my dad's fishing boat.

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And after six months I became my
own skipper, bought my own boat.

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It was a true American dream --

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working hard and having what
I have, and to do what I did.

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And now that dream is going to end.

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You work till the sun comes up.

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It's going to be bright, bright red.

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My dad used to tell me all the time,
"When the sun's bright, bright red,

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that means it's good weather."

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It's kind of funny, you know?

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Whatever the old timers
tell us, it's all true.

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You know?

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Just the best part of
the day is making coffee.

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OK, John!

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(SPEAKING SICILIAN

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- What?

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(SPEAKING SICILIAN)

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- There's a lot of fish here,
but it's all off the bottom.

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And that's what's wrong
with the stock assessment.

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You know, they'll come in and make a
10 minute tow, let's say, right here.

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But right now the fish ain't on the bottom.

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So if they did that 10 minute tow
now, and they hauled the net up again,

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they'd probably get nothing.

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And a lot of that is all codfish.

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A lot of that is millions of codfish.

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They're just not on the bottom right now.

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And this is what science misses on.

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Nobody wants to protect codfish, or
haddock, or whatever it is, more than we do.

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Everything is about the sacred cod.

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All right, John!

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Now watch this.

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You all right where you are, John?

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That's all cod and flounders.

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Now according to the government,
these fish don't exist.

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We could do this all
day long, all year long.

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- Oh, it's pretty, all right.

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But no town gets by on good looks alone.

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This one certainly doesn't.

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There's too much work to be
done, and that means fishing.

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- Cod is the foundation of
New England's prosperity.

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John Smith came up here in 1614,
and he said that the cod population

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would be as profitable to England, or more
profitable, than all of the gold in Mexico.

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And he was right.

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- Like a giant spider, the Santa
Maria spins her web on the water.

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- Comparing the cod population today
to the historical cod population

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is like looking at the United States
if something happened overnight,

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and 90% of the people disappeared.

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So you have 10% of the population
left, and all of them are kids.

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Cod has been overfished
for hundreds of years,

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and we're at the very tail end of this
once enormously abundant population.

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- This is what it's always
meant to be a fisherman.

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It hasn't changed much
in several hundred years.

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- Captain Robert DeJesus, Jr.

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Captain Carl M. Schlemmer.

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Michael A. Fiero.

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Joseph F....

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- ...and the Ladies' Branch is both honored
and privileged to provide this service

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to the families and friends who have
lost their loved ones to the sea.

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As we gather here today, may our tears of
sadness be tethered by the love and joy

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we shared with them.

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- (SINGING) Reaching through the mist
of time, then sailing with the sun.

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Wife and child far behind, heroes every one.

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But oh, the price that men must pay,

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to sail where others fear.

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They'll always live within my
heart, I feel them standing here.

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Gloucester, always Gloucester.

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Gloucester, where my heart runs free.

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From your dawning sky to your seagull's cry,

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you'll always be with me.

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And though I may wander on this mighty
land, for my heart must always roam...

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- Fixed up these bikes today.

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Got a customer coming later
on this afternoon, supposedly.

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I never expected, when I was
growing up, to be a scrap metal guy.

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I mean, all through high school
I was always a fisherman.

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I mean, even my teachers were
like, "That's a fisherman."

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You know what I mean?

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And here I am today, a recycler.

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Bike seller.

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Furniture maker.

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I'm 50 years old, and I don't
know what the hell I am.

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I've been in Gloucester my whole life.

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Born and raised a Gloucester fisherman,
in a Gloucester fisherman family.

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I started when I was seven.

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I used to pull lumber off
the beach to build my boat.

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I fished for 25 years.

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Tired of dealing with Coast
Guard, fish dealers, state police,

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environmental police --

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everywhere you turn, you're dealing with
some sort of law enforcement agency.

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And I don't want to deal with it.

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I just want to make a
living, an honest living.

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We've been regulated out of existence.

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Wrote this little poem here, and
I call it, "I Miss The Lines."

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I miss the line of boats at the wharf.

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I miss the line of boats coming
and going out of the harbor.

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I miss casting off my lines.

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I miss waiting in line at the
fish houses and ice houses.

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I miss the lines of people
working at them plants.

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And when them lines were done,
we had to hit the picket lines.

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And the sad thing is their line didn't work.

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So instead of teaching our kids
the lines that we got taught --

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like the line to go to church,

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the line to go to school,

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the line to go to work --

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all we're being taught is the welfare line,

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the insurance lines.

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The blatant lines of bullshit.

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The NSA taping our lines.

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I could keep going on,
but I'd better get off

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before I get out of line.

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The biggest fishing city in the world.

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Look!

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That's how big it is now.

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Wake up, America.

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This isn't a friggin' joke here.

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You're dealing with a community
that's done this for 400 years.

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It's not a joke.

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You destroyed our lives.

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You destroyed families' lives.

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Not one or two.

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Hundreds of families that
benefited from this industry --

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from the friggin' ice
companies, to the wharfs,

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to the fish dealers, to the truckers,
to the supermarkets, to our churches

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that are friggin' empty now.

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And you toss these people's
knowledge, and their culture,

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and their heritage aside
like it was nothing.

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Nothing.

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- I've been studying the Gulf
of Maine for almost 20 years,

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and I've worked on a variety of species,

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from lobsters to copepods to
right whales, and most recently

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we've been thinking a lot about cod.

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Cod have just been this real challenge for
fisheries managers for many, many years

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in this region, where the
population has been overfished

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and it's really been a struggle
to try to get them to rebuild.

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And right around, you know,
2008, it really seemed like cod

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were headed in the right direction.

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The population was starting to increase.

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And then we just kind of went off the cliff

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where year after year, cod kept going down.

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And more importantly, they kept going down
faster than the models said they should.

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And so it really seemed like
we were missing something

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when we looked at that population.

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And our work suggests that it's temperature.

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We produced a whole time series of the
Gulf of Maine, which looks a lot like this.

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The Gulf of Maine has warmed at a rate
of about 0.04 degrees Celsius per year.

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We've actually warmed at about four
times the rate of the global ocean,

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so we really are one of the fastest
warming places on the planet right now.

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When waters are really warm, each individual
female cod produces fewer new offspring,

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and we also see that in warmer
years fewer of them survive.

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We really weren't taking that into
account when we were managing the stock,

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and it leads to the situation we're in now,

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where we have this
population that's in crisis.

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- They just keep coming, cap!

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The best part, right here.

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- We were out for eight days.

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We fished seven of those eight days.

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And out of those seven days we
averaged about four hours of sleep

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over the course of 24 hours.

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So it actually wears on
you at the end of it.

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I've been fishing since fourth grade.

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I've been a boat owner since
1990, and I've had 25 good years.

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You could work as hard as you
want, or as less as you want.

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You could make a good living.

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Now, pretty much, that's been taken away.

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I don't see it getting any
better in the next five years.

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By then the infrastructure
will be completely collapsed,

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and we won't be getting
anything for the fish.

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- "I'm coming home tomorrow night.

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Spend night with you?"

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And I said yes.

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For sure.

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"OK, good.

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Love you."

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Miss you a lot.

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She says, "OK, take the bus home.

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Miss you more."

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But when I get a message
from my daughter like that,

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emotions go through me, because a few
months ago her mom left us for someone else.

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So she's been back and forth, shuffling
back and forth between there and my house.

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Me being gone fishing, just
trying to spend time with her...

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So it's been difficult.
It's been real difficult.

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And I have to worry about putting
her through college, and everything.

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All that.

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You know how it is.

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The normal stuff.

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I have to worry about everything.

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A lot of my friends, you know,
that I used to fish with,

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got out and went and did something else.

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It's all I know.

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I mean, this is all I've done.

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Went lobster fishing with
my dad my whole life,

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so I've been on the water my whole life.

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- What's that...?

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- I love being out there.

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I mean, I love being out
there and it's just...

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the way that they keep
hammering it, it's just

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I don't think there's a living anymore.

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This is going to be my
worst year fishing, ever.

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Just money-wise.

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I've gone every single trip on
this boat, on every boat he's had.

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We do good together.

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We're a good team out on deck.

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This whole trip, we worked
hard and good together.

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I can't ask for a better
guy to work for, really.

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Sometimes he's like a
father to me, you know.

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He hears my problems.

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But, anyway.

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Cut.

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(MARCHING BAND MUSIC PLAYING)

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(CROWD SHOUTING)

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- Hey, here goes the fireworks.

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- Yeah!

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Wait.

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If we're going squidding,
can we go to the fish... ?

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- Yeah.

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We can do that.

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- What's up?

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- We need to get together on this.

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- I know.

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- Because they're trying to take our money.

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- I heard.

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They want to conquer and divide
us again, but what do they have?

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What leg do they have on?

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I mean, I thought what we
were doing was actually...

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- Awesome.

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- I thought what we were
doing was OK and fair for now.

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- It's all fair...

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- Then you know what the
government should say?

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"Then you're not going to do it, go back
to the bid one," and (SPEAKING SICILIAN).

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- Yeah.

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That's it.

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- That's it, then.

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- That's it.

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- Not on my turf, anyway.

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- All right.

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- Have a good night.

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- Thank you.

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She's always good.

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- Fish that the government says we
can fish for, I guarantee you --

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we can salt it, we can pickle it,

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we can cook it,

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we can marinate it,

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we can feed it, and we can
make sure it's 100% protein.

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You'll find a recipe for it.

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If there is no recipe,
I will develop a recipe.

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I don't buy the 3% stock
that they're saying.

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If my fishermen are saying that
it's out there, then it's out there.

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- And please all give a
wonderful Gloucester welcome

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to Mayor Sefatia Romeo Theken.

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- I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming.

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Hi, guys.

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How are you?

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- Good, good.

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Good to see you.

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- Hi, sweetie.

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How are you?

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And this is what I hate about politics is
because everyone who runs, they all support

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the fishermen but no one goes to a meeting.

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I'm not doing it because
politics, and I'm sorry,

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I'm doing it because I had
to breathe and lived it

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with my grandparents, and my
grandfather, my uncles, and my husband.

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And my husband's not here, and he
would be mortified of what's happening.

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And my husband used to say,

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"Remember, sometimes the voice that
you want to give, they can't speak it,

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so you have to give it.

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And sometimes they don't deserve it,
but you have to do it because the one

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that you don't speak up for,

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that will be the person who
probably needs it the most."

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So that's what I'm doing.

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I'm speaking out.

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And I love my fishermen.

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Besides, they're all good looking.

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- So, I'm just taking the lengths
and the weights of these fish,

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and I'm also taking an age structure --

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which in this case for these pollock
is an otolith, which is an ear bone.

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They have rings on them like a tree,
so our agers down at the science center

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are going to put them under a
microscope and count the rings

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and see how old the fish is.

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My name is Dave.

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I'm a port biological sampler for the
National Marine Fisheries Service,

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and I spent two years as an at-sea monitor.

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There's no accountability.

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You know, fishermen, they're
going to look at their bottom line

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and they're going to go where the fish are.

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And that might be, you
know, spawning cod stocks.

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So without accountability,
they could fish them right out.

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But with the accountability
measures, then, you know,

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it's a better chance that you're going to
have the fishery continue down the line.

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Which is good for everybody.

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Unfortunately, it's a hot
button issue because of the way

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that things have gone over
the last couple of years.

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If it were up to me, I'd
talk to you all day about it.

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But the government doesn't want us
talking about it, for whatever reason.

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- Thanks, Joe.

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How are you doing?

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- Good, thanks.

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How are you?

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- I'm OK.

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Scientists say that cod now is at 3%
to 4% of its historical abundance.

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When something is at 3%
to 4%, it's time to worry.

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When you get very low levels of cod,
those few cod tend to aggregate.

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And fishermen are smart, and they
know where those aggregations are.

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And they say, "I see lots of fish."

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And scientists survey whole areas,
and they see those aggregations,

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but they see also vast areas
where there are no cod.

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That's why we're taking emergency actions.

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When you have a council system as we
do, where the counselors in many cases

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are fishermen themselves, they have
to take votes that take money out

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of people's pockets and then they have
to go home and face their friends,

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face their relatives, and say,

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"I just voted to cut your quotas 75%."

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That's a tough, tough vote to take.

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- We're here today to try
and get the government,

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to enjoin them from charging
for at-sea monitors.

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This is a function currently
paid for by the government,

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and the government is trying to
transfer the cost to the industry.

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- This is really important to
New Hampshire, the seacoast,

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because our fishing is critical
to our state and regional economy.

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And truthfully, it's a part of who we are.

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And I am deeply, deeply concerned
with the federal regulations

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that are impacting both commercial
and recreational fishing businesses.

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You also have to take into account
the importance of fishery resources

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to fishing communities.

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- When you constantly make
decisions about fishing for today,

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then you get to a place where we are now --

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which is, there may be no tomorrows.

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- You haven't been out there.

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You can't get away from the cod.

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Your science is flawed, and
you know the science is flawed,

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and nothing is being done about it.

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You can say all you want about, you
know, this model and that model.

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The reality is if you go out
fishing, they're everywhere.

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- Given that your office has
deemed at-sea monitoring critical,

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why have you not re-prioritized your budget,
as Congress has recommended, to pay for it?

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Don't tell me that I gotta pay $710
for somebody to ride along with me.

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It's a bad idea.

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- You brought an article.

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I brought an article too, Dave,
from the Portsmouth Herald,

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Max Sullivan -- where you said...

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you're quoted as saying, "NOAA
Fisheries lies for a living."

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And then one sentence later you said,

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"They don't care.

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They'd be happy if the fishery closed."

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- I believe that.

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Yes, I do.

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I believe you'd be happy
if the fishery closed.

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- You know, if you were
just talking about me,

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Dave, first of all I'd say
you were full of baloney.

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You don't know my motivations.

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But you're also talking about
the people who work for me,

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and they work very hard to
keep this fishery alive.

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And you just don't have a
clue about what motivates us.

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And as for the fact that
we lie for a living,

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I think that says more about your
credibility than it says about ours.

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- Well...

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- I think you owe use...

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- Let's have it out right
now, Mr. Bullard, because...

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- You owe us an apology.

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I don't think you'll give it to us.

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I don't think you'd say that to our face.

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- I would say it to your face.

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I'll say it right now.

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I think you lie for a living.

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You say you don't have the
money to pay for observance.

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I believe that's a lie.

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I think you have the money.

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You've got a $30 million budget.

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I believe you have the money.

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Maybe you gotta fire some of your
employees, just like hundreds and hundreds

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of fishermen have been fired.

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- Out of your way, clear, you know --

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just tell them what you need.

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- Uh, if they hear my way back, and
the waters awful cold this year.

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- There's been a railway here
since before the Civil War,

00:23:05.360 --> 00:23:09.320
and it has been principally in
service to the groundfish industry.

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We have had, in our history, a settlement
house, an ice house, repairs, dockage,

00:23:15.890 --> 00:23:16.970
and fuel.

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We're down to three of
those, and each one of those

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is a shell of what it was 20 years ago.

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- If that doesn't, it shouldn't.

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Let's just hope he...

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- Plus the tide's still coming, so...

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- Right.

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The tide's still coming.

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- At the height of the fishing industry

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there was probably 40, 45
people who worked here.

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Today we have seven.

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- Going up with it a little!

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Watch your line!

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- What we have left here
is a dock space that

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is being serviced by boats
that don't go anywhere.

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Boats, if they go, might go with
one person as a crew member.

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They're not being maintained.

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The fuel, we're not selling fuel.

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The infrastructure needs
a certain critical mass.

00:24:04.800 --> 00:24:10.391
And that has really been
decimated in the last few years.

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There is not the activity on
any level in Gloucester Harbor.

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It's something of a ghost town.

00:24:38.995 --> 00:24:39.961
- Michael?

00:24:39.961 --> 00:24:41.160
Hey.

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You like it?

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- Is that good?

00:24:43.930 --> 00:24:44.810
- Is that good?

00:24:44.810 --> 00:24:46.190
Huh?

00:24:46.190 --> 00:24:49.120
(SPEAKING SICILIAN)

00:24:49.120 --> 00:24:50.956
Oh these are some, Steve, right here.

00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:57.814
It's dirty, but look
how big that picture is.

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I've got tons of these.

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Should take the boys out and catch these.

00:25:02.316 --> 00:25:06.680
- They're bigger than they are.

00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.720
- Well ever since I was a little
boy, you know, down the wharf

00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:13.320
hanging out with my family,
my grandfather, my father.

00:25:13.320 --> 00:25:17.149
But when it came time to make a living,
you know, I followed my family's footsteps

00:25:17.149 --> 00:25:18.690
and I went into the fishing industry.

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And because of rules and regulations,
I had to make a decision to, you know,

00:25:24.950 --> 00:25:26.550
go make a living in a different way.

00:25:26.550 --> 00:25:28.490
You know, it was just the way that life is.

00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:44.200
- I went from 100,000 of Gulf of Maine
cod, in two years, down to 4,000 today.

00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:50.020
I spent almost $400,000 on permits,
and then all these drastic cuts came.

00:25:50.020 --> 00:25:51.826
And...

00:25:51.826 --> 00:25:55.010
you know, when that happens,
you're going to make decisions.

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I had to sell that boat, I had to lay my
son off after 14 years of being with me.

00:26:01.270 --> 00:26:03.104
And now he's got to start over, you know?

00:26:03.104 --> 00:26:04.270
- How does it make you feel?

00:26:04.270 --> 00:26:04.960
- Terrible.

00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.940
I feel like crying.

00:26:06.940 --> 00:26:08.226
That's how it makes me feel.

00:26:08.226 --> 00:26:09.850
I mean, how would you feel as a father?

00:26:14.740 --> 00:26:16.690
- Clear, but it's following everything else.

00:26:16.690 --> 00:26:16.970
- Yeah.

00:26:16.970 --> 00:26:18.180
- I think it's probably real.

00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:18.840
- Yeah.

00:26:18.840 --> 00:26:22.440
- And the absorption spectrum
here looks realistic.

00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.090
Levels are pretty high right
now because it's wintertime --

00:26:26.090 --> 00:26:29.260
there's less light, there's not
as much growth of the plants,

00:26:29.260 --> 00:26:32.340
and so they can't draw
down all the nutrients.

00:26:39.840 --> 00:26:42.870
Good day to see wildlife,
if there's any out there.

00:26:42.870 --> 00:26:43.910
Mammals.

00:26:43.910 --> 00:26:45.220
Charismatic.

00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:45.840
- Charismatic.

00:26:45.840 --> 00:26:46.470
Mega-fauna.

00:26:46.470 --> 00:26:49.620
We're just looking at the
charismatic micro-fauna.

00:26:49.620 --> 00:26:50.360
Micro-flora.

00:26:52.805 --> 00:26:53.783
10 seconds.

00:27:10.930 --> 00:27:15.590
It measures the temperature as it sinks
at a very precise rate through the water.

00:27:15.590 --> 00:27:21.840
One thing the temperature does do, as you
warm the water it makes it much harder

00:27:21.840 --> 00:27:24.480
for nutrients -- the
fertilizer of the sea --

00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:25.980
to get mixed up to the surface.

00:27:25.980 --> 00:27:29.490
It's where there's sufficient light
for the phytoplankton to grow.

00:27:29.490 --> 00:27:31.140
They need both light and nutrients.

00:27:31.140 --> 00:27:35.670
And if they are missing one or
the other, you can't grow a plant.

00:27:35.670 --> 00:27:39.180
And then that goes for your house plants,
or it goes for plants in the ocean.

00:27:42.320 --> 00:27:46.930
And we attribute the warming
to global warming phenomena.

00:27:46.930 --> 00:27:51.710
The drop in salinity we attribute to
changes in the precipitation patterns.

00:27:51.710 --> 00:27:57.440
Of the eight wettest years since
the 1890s, four of those wet years

00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:58.810
have been since 2005.

00:28:03.580 --> 00:28:07.060
The phytoplankton that we're
focusing on in this program

00:28:07.060 --> 00:28:09.880
are essentially at the
bottom of the marine food web

00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.130
on which all life in the ocean depends.

00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:17.170
This is the food for the fish larvae,
and ultimately, nine years from now

00:28:17.170 --> 00:28:20.410
or 10 years, will become
the fish on your plate.

00:28:20.410 --> 00:28:23.320
They also produce half
of the oxygen on Earth,

00:28:23.320 --> 00:28:27.380
so you can thank the phytoplankton for
the oxygen in every other breath you take.

00:28:33.710 --> 00:28:39.420
This trip that we're on now is our
178th trip across the Gulf of Maine.

00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:44.820
Between 2005 and 2010 we saw that
the productivity in the Gulf of Maine

00:28:44.820 --> 00:28:47.520
crashed by about 80%.

00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:49.500
These are items of concern.

00:28:49.500 --> 00:28:52.470
From someone who studies the
bottom of the marine food web,

00:28:52.470 --> 00:28:57.630
the variability of fishing is a subject
of the food that they have to eat,

00:28:57.630 --> 00:29:02.210
it's a subject of the fishing
pressure that is on them.

00:29:02.210 --> 00:29:03.540
These things are not simple.

00:29:03.540 --> 00:29:05.050
It's a very tough problem.

00:29:08.250 --> 00:29:12.150
The Gulf of Maine does not give
up her secrets very easily.

00:29:21.950 --> 00:29:27.590
- The job for groups like CLF is
to communicate with the public,

00:29:27.590 --> 00:29:29.660
translate the science.

00:29:29.660 --> 00:29:33.380
But ultimately, we have
to take it to Congress.

00:29:33.380 --> 00:29:35.220
Those are the people with power.

00:29:35.220 --> 00:29:41.960
Those are the folks who are responsible
for those trust obligations to all of us

00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:43.790
to keep a healthy environment,

00:29:43.790 --> 00:29:48.680
and to protect us from things like
climate change and the loss of codfish.

00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.310
- Climate change is something that
we've been talking about for so long,

00:29:52.310 --> 00:29:53.450
and people understand it.

00:29:53.450 --> 00:29:54.260
They get it.

00:29:54.260 --> 00:29:57.720
But people are busy, and people
are focused on other things.

00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:01.820
So now that we have this real,
concrete evidence in front of us

00:30:01.820 --> 00:30:04.460
about how this is affecting
us in our backyards,

00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:06.390
it's what's forcing people to sort of say,

00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:07.970
"Oh my gosh, I can see this.

00:30:07.970 --> 00:30:08.810
This is tangible."

00:30:08.810 --> 00:30:11.690
And this is something that we
need to understand more about,

00:30:11.690 --> 00:30:14.530
and we need to take steps to combat.

00:30:14.530 --> 00:30:18.950
- Yeah, and you hear about the Pacific
Island nations that are going underwater.

00:30:18.950 --> 00:30:23.360
We're losing the fishery that was
the foundation of New England.

00:30:23.360 --> 00:30:24.400
And...

00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:25.985
you know, that's a big deal.

00:30:25.985 --> 00:30:27.440
- That's a huge deal.

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:31.670
And it's a huge deal particularly
given what we're replacing it with,

00:30:31.670 --> 00:30:35.420
which are other fisheries which
are also, you know, really...

00:30:35.420 --> 00:30:36.179
- Like lobsters.

00:30:36.179 --> 00:30:36.720
- ...at risk.

00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:37.220
Right.

00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:37.970
Lobster.

00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:43.010
I mean if you get above a certain
temperature, the half a billion

00:30:43.010 --> 00:30:45.961
dollar lobster industry in
Maine is going to collapse.

00:30:45.961 --> 00:30:46.460
- Yeah.

00:30:46.460 --> 00:30:49.040
So this really becomes
a community loss, then.

00:30:49.040 --> 00:30:51.860
I mean, it's really... we're
taking away our identity, in a way.

00:30:51.860 --> 00:30:55.545
Or having it taken away from us.

00:30:55.545 --> 00:31:03.682
- (SINGING) Been three long
years since we made her pay.

00:31:03.682 --> 00:31:17.245
Sing, haul away, my laddie-o, and the
owners say that she's had her day.

00:31:20.422 --> 00:31:24.565
Haul away, my laddie-o.

00:31:31.530 --> 00:31:32.850
- What have they done?

00:31:32.850 --> 00:31:34.530
Is it too late now?

00:31:34.530 --> 00:31:36.700
Will the fishermen fish no more?

00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:39.950
Who will feed the people when
the last fisherman is gone?

00:31:39.950 --> 00:31:42.360
When the last boat is on the shore?

00:31:42.360 --> 00:31:46.470
The fish-crats tell us there aren't
enough fish, so we must scrap our boats,

00:31:46.470 --> 00:31:48.840
and the yards that maintain them will close.

00:31:48.840 --> 00:31:50.730
Is it too late now?

00:31:50.730 --> 00:31:53.220
They say it don't pay for
the young folks to stay.

00:31:53.220 --> 00:31:55.260
They've all taken jobs onshore.

00:31:55.260 --> 00:31:57.420
They can't go fishing no more.

00:31:57.420 --> 00:31:58.980
Is it too late now?

00:31:58.980 --> 00:32:00.630
What have they done?

00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:02.580
(SINGING) Daddy, what's a seine?

00:32:02.580 --> 00:32:04.860
Is it something I can see?

00:32:04.860 --> 00:32:08.790
Where can I find a boat
to set it in the sea?

00:32:08.790 --> 00:32:10.720
Is it bigger than our house?

00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.780
Oh, how can I explain

00:32:12.780 --> 00:32:16.980
when my little boy asks me,
"Daddy, what's a seine?"

00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:18.300
What have they done?

00:32:18.300 --> 00:32:19.830
It is too late now.

00:32:19.830 --> 00:32:22.380
We are the last fishermen.

00:32:22.380 --> 00:32:25.570
That's the way the guys around
here are feeling about now.

00:32:25.570 --> 00:32:27.257
It's the death of a way of life.

00:32:27.257 --> 00:32:29.245
(APPLAUSE)

00:32:29.245 --> 00:32:41.173
(SINGING) Come all you bold
seamen, wherever you're bound...

00:32:50.630 --> 00:32:55.510
- This wall was destroyed last trip,
we hit a wave that was probably --

00:32:55.510 --> 00:32:56.770
I don't know, 20 feet high --

00:32:56.770 --> 00:33:01.536
that broke right here, and
bent the other one over.

00:33:01.536 --> 00:33:04.000
One step forward, two steps back.

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.220
There's always a list.

00:33:05.220 --> 00:33:07.428
If you're not fishing, you're
thinking about fishing.

00:33:09.740 --> 00:33:13.100
All right, we're gonna cut this in half.

00:33:13.100 --> 00:33:16.703
Gonna grind without cutting my fingers
off, which sometimes is a challenge.

00:33:16.703 --> 00:33:19.702
I don't think there's anybody that'll
tell you that cod fishing is good.

00:33:19.702 --> 00:33:26.160
Well, we had 20 minute tows in 2010 where
we could catch 15,000, 16,000 in 20 minutes.

00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:27.210
You can't do that now.

00:33:27.210 --> 00:33:30.070
You can't get 800 lbs a day now,
if you went in there and tried it.

00:33:30.070 --> 00:33:31.645
- Why not?

00:33:31.645 --> 00:33:33.505
- The fish aren't there.

00:33:33.505 --> 00:33:35.840
All right.

00:33:35.840 --> 00:33:36.860
Different grinder.

00:33:36.860 --> 00:33:38.332
It will be welded.

00:33:38.332 --> 00:33:40.790
Ever since I bought this boat,
there's been a few inquiries

00:33:40.790 --> 00:33:42.200
whether it was for sale or not.

00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.967
This is on a smaller end of what
people want, but it'll sell.

00:33:44.967 --> 00:33:48.050
And once this boat goes, I'm going
move on and definitely get another job,

00:33:48.050 --> 00:33:53.030
and hopefully that job will be enough
income to keep me in the lifestyle

00:33:53.030 --> 00:33:55.100
that I'm accustomed to.

00:33:55.100 --> 00:33:58.121
I think my wife will be relieved
after I move on and find another job.

00:33:58.121 --> 00:33:59.870
I mean, the death rate in the fishermen --

00:33:59.870 --> 00:34:01.310
you know, we lose two or three every year.

00:34:01.310 --> 00:34:03.510
We used to lose one right
at Christmas every year,

00:34:03.510 --> 00:34:05.270
and thank God it didn't happen this year.

00:34:11.560 --> 00:34:12.820
- Yeah, I'm sure I will.

00:34:12.820 --> 00:34:14.070
Yeah.

00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:15.179
Yeah.

00:34:15.179 --> 00:34:16.030
- Why?

00:34:16.030 --> 00:34:18.655
- Well, just we've been together
for so long, it's like family.

00:34:18.655 --> 00:34:21.719
But he's, like, maybe a younger brother.

00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.480
And I will say he's missed
two trips in 21 years.

00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.969
He had his daughter, and he went skiing --

00:34:26.969 --> 00:34:28.010
never been skiing before.

00:34:28.010 --> 00:34:30.179
And Troy, typical Troy
fashion, he tried to go

00:34:30.179 --> 00:34:32.262
as fast as he can down the
hill in a straight line

00:34:32.262 --> 00:34:34.750
and he fell and broke his collarbone.

00:34:34.750 --> 00:34:36.980
And that was his first and last ski trip.

00:34:36.980 --> 00:34:39.510
But otherwise that, you'd
call him up and he's there.

00:34:43.910 --> 00:34:47.027
- I am wrapping gifts for
my daughter, for Christmas.

00:34:47.027 --> 00:34:48.485
She'll be here off the bus shortly.

00:34:51.490 --> 00:34:56.560
So I can spend more time with her,
I was going to try to change my job,

00:34:56.560 --> 00:34:58.090
and maybe quit fishing.

00:34:58.090 --> 00:35:00.940
And she told me, she says,
"Dad, you love fishing so much.

00:35:00.940 --> 00:35:03.240
I don't want you to quit."

00:35:03.240 --> 00:35:06.040
And that's exactly what she said to me.

00:35:06.040 --> 00:35:09.700
And I thought that was real nice of her,

00:35:09.700 --> 00:35:13.540
because I would do
anything to make her happy.

00:35:13.540 --> 00:35:16.810
And she said she would be
happy if I kept fishing,

00:35:16.810 --> 00:35:19.190
because that's what made me happy.

00:35:19.190 --> 00:35:22.662
I'm supposed to leave in the morning.

00:35:22.662 --> 00:35:25.495
We'll work the weather, get one
more quick trip in before Christmas,

00:35:25.495 --> 00:35:29.030
so we can have Christmas
money to go shopping with.

00:35:32.432 --> 00:35:34.862
All right, I'm gonna put
these under the tree.

00:35:40.785 --> 00:35:42.760
All right, she wanted
two presents under there.

00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:43.343
She's got two.

00:35:46.042 --> 00:35:51.430
I'm getting ready to leave tomorrow
morning, so I'm packing now.

00:35:51.430 --> 00:35:53.560
Fishing changed my life,
because before fishing

00:35:53.560 --> 00:35:57.760
all I did was get myself in
trouble, and in and out of jail.

00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.370
My last time in jail, I spent eight
months for something I did drunk.

00:36:02.370 --> 00:36:03.970
Stupid.

00:36:03.970 --> 00:36:06.640
I wanted to turn my life around
and become a better person.

00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.270
Fishing was a big part of that.

00:36:11.270 --> 00:36:13.920
And I'm gonna continue doing that,

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.160
because when I grew up I didn't have much.

00:36:20.330 --> 00:36:25.007
And I just wanted to give my family
a little more than what I had.

00:36:29.390 --> 00:36:32.750
- If you catch too many
fish, and kill too many fish,

00:36:32.750 --> 00:36:35.960
they won't be around to
produce next year's crop.

00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.640
In the hundreds of years that
we've been collecting cod data,

00:36:38.640 --> 00:36:44.540
there's never been a collapse that has
been as complete as it appears to be now.

00:36:44.540 --> 00:36:48.500
If we don't build cod
populations back up we're

00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:53.570
going to have high rise, exclusive
condominiums and hotels in Gloucester

00:36:53.570 --> 00:37:00.230
Harbor taking up the spaces where
fishmongers and chandleries for fishing

00:37:00.230 --> 00:37:03.650
boats, and charter
recreational boats tie up,

00:37:03.650 --> 00:37:05.270
because they're going to be gone.

00:37:05.270 --> 00:37:08.480
And that harborfront real
estate is going to be developed

00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.980
as a playground for tourists and the rich,

00:37:12.980 --> 00:37:17.396
and Gloucester's fishing
history will be just that.

00:37:17.396 --> 00:37:17.896
History.

00:37:25.336 --> 00:37:27.816
(INTERPOSING VOICES)

00:37:37.750 --> 00:37:40.070
- I'm the owner of Cape
Ann Seafood Exchange.

00:37:40.070 --> 00:37:42.840
I've got a lot more gray hairs
over the past four or five years.

00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:43.881
I can tell you that much.

00:37:46.670 --> 00:37:50.870
So here my electric bill is still
what it was a year ago, two years ago,

00:37:50.870 --> 00:37:52.290
three years ago.

00:37:52.290 --> 00:37:55.910
But, you know, the fish has to cover
that cost, and right now it can't.

00:37:58.997 --> 00:38:02.180
If they go out again,
catch fish and, you know,

00:38:02.180 --> 00:38:09.122
by accident they haul back and they have
5,000 or 10,000 lbs of cod in their nets --

00:38:09.122 --> 00:38:11.330
that fisherman can't go
fishing the rest of the year,

00:38:11.330 --> 00:38:14.000
because he doesn't have
any quota to cover it.

00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:19.327
So that hurts me, too, because now
that's one more boat out of the equation.

00:38:19.327 --> 00:38:20.660
We might have to shut our doors.

00:38:20.660 --> 00:38:22.730
I might have to put the place up for sale.

00:38:22.730 --> 00:38:23.270
Who knows?

00:38:23.270 --> 00:38:25.316
Who knows what the future brings?

00:38:25.316 --> 00:38:27.020
(PHONE RINGING)

00:38:27.020 --> 00:38:28.209
- Yes?

00:38:28.209 --> 00:38:29.000
OK, no, this is it.

00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:29.880
This is the last one.

00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.070
Here we go.

00:38:31.070 --> 00:38:34.150
- Sam Scola, and I've been
doing this for 20 years.

00:38:34.150 --> 00:38:36.700
I grade the fish, look at them,
give them a quality grade.

00:38:41.140 --> 00:38:43.660
Unfortunately, because
of all the regulations

00:38:43.660 --> 00:38:47.530
in the fishing industry up here,
even this industry, grading the fish

00:38:47.530 --> 00:38:49.120
has become less and less.

00:38:49.120 --> 00:38:53.035
Instead of working five days a week,
I'm probably averaging about three now.

00:38:53.035 --> 00:38:55.360
Well, the first thing I'm
doing is I look at the eyes.

00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.830
You can check the color of the
eyes to see how fresh they are.

00:38:58.830 --> 00:39:01.840
And the more clear they are,
the fresher the fish is.

00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.810
OK, and then I'm looking in the gut cavity
to see how fresh the blood lines are.

00:39:05.810 --> 00:39:07.780
You see the blood lines here.

00:39:07.780 --> 00:39:08.940
That's a pretty fresh fish.

00:39:08.940 --> 00:39:10.422
Nice and red, alright.

00:39:10.422 --> 00:39:12.880
And then the next thing I'll
do is I'll check for firmness,

00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:14.860
and I'll squeeze them.

00:39:14.860 --> 00:39:18.800
And if he bounces back like this guy's
doing, you know that he'll cut fine.

00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.850
He'll make a nice fillet for someone.

00:39:21.850 --> 00:39:27.380
And if I think they're old,
sometimes I'll take a smell

00:39:27.380 --> 00:39:30.600
to see if there's any odors in them.

00:39:30.600 --> 00:39:32.900
Odors definitely tell that
they're an older fish.

00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:35.970
This time of year, typically you'll
see the codfish be really expensive.

00:39:35.970 --> 00:39:37.410
$4.00 or $5.00 a pound.

00:39:37.410 --> 00:39:42.080
And today it was going off at
$2.00, under $2.00, down to $1.80.

00:39:42.080 --> 00:39:46.340
And what's happened is because
of the lack of codfish market,

00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:49.340
where the government has shut down
so much of the catching of it,

00:39:49.340 --> 00:39:51.480
the companies don't have
any place to sell it.

00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:56.000
So instead of creating, you know,
a lower quantity, higher price,

00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.630
it's actually created a market where
there's no more market for it anymore.

00:39:59.630 --> 00:40:03.392
So they have no place to sell it, so they
can't pay the big money for it anymore.

00:40:10.690 --> 00:40:15.580
- My job is to help write the rules
that regulate commercial fishing.

00:40:15.580 --> 00:40:17.720
While I've spent a lot
of time out on the ocean,

00:40:17.720 --> 00:40:20.500
I've never been on a
commercial fishing boat.

00:40:20.500 --> 00:40:27.150
But when Captain Terry Alexander
said I could come out and join

00:40:27.150 --> 00:40:30.720
him and his crew for a few days,

00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:34.125
I jumped at the chance.

00:40:34.125 --> 00:40:39.110
Do those little rope tufts on the cable
mark lengths of cable that go out?

00:40:39.110 --> 00:40:39.850
- Yeah.

00:40:39.850 --> 00:40:43.050
Yeah, every 12 fathom there's a mark...

00:40:43.050 --> 00:40:43.870
- There's a mark?

00:40:43.870 --> 00:40:47.270
- I've been a fisherman for 37 years.

00:40:47.270 --> 00:40:49.926
When I started out,
there was no regulations.

00:40:49.926 --> 00:40:53.950
Towed any mesh size you wanted,
did anything you wanted.

00:40:53.950 --> 00:40:56.313
We certainly have regulation now.

00:40:56.313 --> 00:40:57.100
For sure.

00:40:57.100 --> 00:40:59.640
We're going to try Middle
Bank first, in there,

00:40:59.640 --> 00:41:02.590
and then we're going to go off to the east.

00:41:02.590 --> 00:41:09.140
- So you have different nets, and the
different nets are different colored lines?

00:41:09.140 --> 00:41:09.960
- Yeah.

00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.610
- Now, what kind of bottom is here?

00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:15.440
- That's all good mud bottom.

00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:16.880
- Harder means rockier?

00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:17.980
- Rockier.

00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:20.050
Gravelier.

00:41:20.050 --> 00:41:23.560
- And I just have this new job,
organize all the fishermen.

00:41:23.560 --> 00:41:26.650
So I'm trying to learn,
and this guy is talking

00:41:26.650 --> 00:41:28.900
about the reason there aren't any fish

00:41:28.900 --> 00:41:34.390
is these "connor ants"
are eating all the fish.

00:41:34.390 --> 00:41:38.950
And I'm trying to picture,
what is a "connor ant?"

00:41:38.950 --> 00:41:44.110
Is it some kind of creature that
lives on the bottom of the sea floor?

00:41:44.110 --> 00:41:50.110
And it takes me, like, five
minutes of picturing this monster

00:41:50.110 --> 00:41:53.640
before I finally figure out
he's talking about a cormorant.

00:42:09.576 --> 00:42:12.090
- All set?

00:42:12.090 --> 00:42:13.570
There's the elusive cod!

00:42:31.140 --> 00:42:34.830
- Captain Alexander is
trying to prove a point.

00:42:34.830 --> 00:42:40.420
He caught more in 45 minutes
than his whole annual quota.

00:42:40.420 --> 00:42:43.824
So many cod here, there's
not room for anything else.

00:42:43.824 --> 00:42:44.324
- Yeah.

00:42:59.450 --> 00:43:02.210
- Well we had Senator
Elizabeth Warren here in town,

00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:05.120
you know, I said, don't
give us any false hope.

00:43:05.120 --> 00:43:08.750
Don't hold out any false assurances
that things are going to get better.

00:43:14.330 --> 00:43:17.748
I said, you may be shaking the hand
of the last ice man of Gloucester.

00:43:19.232 --> 00:43:20.690
You're gonna take chunk ice, right?

00:43:20.690 --> 00:43:21.687
Not snow?

00:43:21.687 --> 00:43:23.178
- Yeah.

00:43:23.178 --> 00:43:26.160
- Then 7 ton, maybe?

00:43:26.160 --> 00:43:28.148
- OK, we'll start with five!

00:43:28.148 --> 00:43:29.142
- Start with five?

00:43:29.142 --> 00:43:31.295
- Cheapskate!

00:43:31.295 --> 00:43:33.700
You know, you don't have
enough ice on that fish,

00:43:33.700 --> 00:43:35.533
it's not gonna get the same kind of a price.

00:43:37.015 --> 00:43:39.910
When I came in 1983, the
company was putting on average

00:43:39.910 --> 00:43:44.170
about 40,000 tons of ice
a year on fishing boats.

00:43:44.170 --> 00:43:46.570
Just over 1,000 tons last year.

00:43:56.650 --> 00:44:00.150
We're much, much more reliant on all
the other aspects of our business,

00:44:00.150 --> 00:44:03.310
which involves delivering ice
in our trucks to liquor stores

00:44:03.310 --> 00:44:07.995
in lower New Hampshire, or Lawrence,
Lowell, down to the casinos in Connecticut.

00:44:07.995 --> 00:44:09.870
Talking about packaged
ice for liquor stores,

00:44:09.870 --> 00:44:13.040
you're talking about block
ice for ice sculptures --

00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:15.850
selling t-shirts and giving
historic ice house tours.

00:44:15.850 --> 00:44:22.280
So this is a beautiful old leather bound log
book of our ice customers over the years.

00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:29.170
This is April 1974, and just the number
of vessels, the number of fish processors.

00:44:29.170 --> 00:44:31.760
Most of these businesses
are long gone at this point.

00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:33.866
How can we help you today?

00:44:33.866 --> 00:44:35.240
- I just need to buy some ice.

00:44:35.240 --> 00:44:35.740
- Really?

00:44:35.740 --> 00:44:36.690
Buy some ice?

00:44:36.690 --> 00:44:37.370
- Yeah.

00:44:37.370 --> 00:44:38.905
- Why would you be here for that?

00:44:38.905 --> 00:44:40.040
(LAUGHTER)

00:44:40.040 --> 00:44:40.540
- Well...

00:44:40.540 --> 00:44:42.110
- Funny thing happened to the fridge.

00:44:42.110 --> 00:44:44.455
- Back in the '80s, we used
to come by boat to get it.

00:44:44.455 --> 00:44:45.830
- What was the name of your boat?

00:44:45.830 --> 00:44:46.580
- Little Frank.

00:44:46.580 --> 00:44:47.783
- Little Frank.

00:44:47.783 --> 00:44:48.300
OK.

00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:50.300
I probably have your name
in this log right now.

00:44:50.300 --> 00:44:50.718
- Oh, I'm sure you do.

00:44:50.718 --> 00:44:51.554
I'm sure you do.

00:44:51.554 --> 00:44:52.810
Back in the '80s.

00:44:52.810 --> 00:44:53.740
- Yep.

00:44:53.740 --> 00:44:54.240
And so...

00:44:54.240 --> 00:44:55.100
- When times were good.

00:44:55.100 --> 00:44:56.058
- When times were good.

00:44:56.058 --> 00:44:56.920
And you had a boat.

00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.378
Well, we need you to come back
and buy some more ice again.

00:44:59.378 --> 00:45:01.072
- Yeah, so now we're...

00:45:01.072 --> 00:45:05.044
yeah, we're having a little party and
we'd like to have some ice for the home.

00:45:05.044 --> 00:45:05.809
- Excellent.

00:45:05.809 --> 00:45:08.350
- Boy, these would make great
Christmas gifts, wouldn't they?

00:45:08.350 --> 00:45:09.349
- Hey, funny about that.

00:45:09.349 --> 00:45:13.015
You know, some days we sell more t-shirts
and sweatshirts and caps than we do ice.

00:45:13.015 --> 00:45:16.473
Go out and get your bag of ice, since you
don't want to bring the Little Frank over

00:45:16.473 --> 00:45:18.560
and get 2 or 3 tons instead.

00:45:18.560 --> 00:45:21.265
- Let me go tell the engineer
to start up the motor.

00:45:21.265 --> 00:45:22.564
- Thank you, please do.

00:45:22.564 --> 00:45:24.480
I'll be right back with
that six pack for you.

00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:25.480
It'll be $10 bucks.

00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:26.420
- Thank you.

00:45:26.420 --> 00:45:27.860
This place was buzzing.

00:45:27.860 --> 00:45:32.240
Friday morning, Saturday mornings,
when boats would come in and get ice,

00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:35.330
and you'd have... you'd
be, like, four boats out.

00:45:35.330 --> 00:45:39.170
You know, I'm surprised this place
lasted as long as it did, you know?

00:45:39.170 --> 00:45:41.570
There are still a few fishing boats left.

00:45:41.570 --> 00:45:44.700
It's an end of an era, I guess.

00:45:47.650 --> 00:45:50.690
Just looking at that icepick
just brought me right back there.

00:45:50.690 --> 00:45:52.390
- You talking about the chipper?

00:45:52.390 --> 00:45:52.945
- Yeah.

00:45:52.945 --> 00:45:54.410
Yeah, the chipper there.

00:45:54.410 --> 00:45:58.452
And all of a sudden I was
back in the fish hold.

00:45:58.452 --> 00:46:01.660
- Used to be, in the really old days,
we used to send ice all over the world.

00:46:01.660 --> 00:46:02.520
- Yeah.

00:46:02.520 --> 00:46:04.349
- Now it's t-shirts.

00:46:04.349 --> 00:46:05.640
- Now it's t-shirts everywhere.

00:46:05.640 --> 00:46:06.473
That's good, though.

00:46:06.473 --> 00:46:07.780
- Yeah.

00:46:07.780 --> 00:46:09.285
- Why do you keep holding on?

00:46:09.285 --> 00:46:10.660
- I don't really have any choice.

00:46:10.660 --> 00:46:12.201
Would you like to buy an ice company?

00:46:12.201 --> 00:46:13.496
I have the keys right here.

00:46:13.496 --> 00:46:14.150
Here they are.

00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:23.447
You know, as any small business owner deals
with the fact that you're on the line,

00:46:23.447 --> 00:46:25.530
and there really isn't an
exit strategy unless you

00:46:25.530 --> 00:46:26.988
can be resourceful in creating one.

00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:31.940
- Hello.

00:46:31.940 --> 00:46:32.439
Hi.

00:46:32.439 --> 00:46:33.691
How are you?

00:46:33.691 --> 00:46:34.190
All right.

00:46:34.190 --> 00:46:36.211
I'll see you when you get here.

00:46:36.211 --> 00:46:36.710
Bye.

00:46:40.678 --> 00:46:41.590
Hi, honey.

00:46:41.590 --> 00:46:42.120
- Hi.

00:46:42.120 --> 00:46:43.160
- How was your day?

00:46:43.160 --> 00:46:43.660
- Good.

00:46:46.520 --> 00:46:47.980
- Let's play Fish.

00:46:47.980 --> 00:46:48.480
- OK.

00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:49.400
You go first.

00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:50.080
- I go first?

00:46:50.080 --> 00:46:50.580
- Well, I...

00:46:50.580 --> 00:46:52.548
- Do you have any Jacks?

00:46:52.548 --> 00:46:53.881
- Go fish.

00:46:53.881 --> 00:46:54.380
- Go fish.

00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:55.840
- I mean, I'm really proud of him.

00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.500
It's just, I miss him a lot when he's gone.

00:46:58.500 --> 00:46:59.670
- Do you have a six?

00:46:59.670 --> 00:47:00.170
- Go fish.

00:47:00.170 --> 00:47:01.860
- Go fish.

00:47:01.860 --> 00:47:04.290
- Sometimes I text him when
he's gone during the week,

00:47:04.290 --> 00:47:07.080
but that's only, like, if he has service.

00:47:07.080 --> 00:47:08.728
He doesn't have service much, though.

00:47:13.210 --> 00:47:16.600
- All right, we'll go to the
store to get something for supper.

00:47:16.600 --> 00:47:19.220
We'll get burgers and rolls, and...

00:47:19.220 --> 00:47:20.090
- Yeah.

00:47:20.090 --> 00:47:21.900
- You want potato tots, or something?

00:47:21.900 --> 00:47:24.470
- It's called tater tots, not potato tots.

00:47:24.470 --> 00:47:25.560
- Oh, OK.

00:47:25.560 --> 00:47:27.320
- Yes, I do, though.

00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.500
- Potato tots?

00:47:29.500 --> 00:47:32.886
- You got me saying "totato tots."

00:47:32.886 --> 00:47:34.580
It's po... no, wait.

00:47:34.580 --> 00:47:35.570
Tater tots.

00:47:35.570 --> 00:47:37.470
I don't even know what it is.

00:47:37.470 --> 00:47:39.720
Thanks, Dad.

00:47:39.720 --> 00:47:41.097
What am I going to do with you?

00:47:43.426 --> 00:47:46.210
- You like, uh, New Kids on the Block?

00:47:46.210 --> 00:47:48.010
- I don't know what that is.

00:47:48.010 --> 00:47:49.720
- I like this new song...

00:47:49.720 --> 00:47:52.622
I like this new group, One Direction.

00:47:52.622 --> 00:47:53.122
That...

00:47:53.122 --> 00:47:54.400
(GROANING)

00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:55.334
- You don't like that?

00:47:55.334 --> 00:47:56.500
- I liked it in sixth grade.

00:47:59.100 --> 00:48:03.110
- So the key to the workshop is
to try to identify research areas

00:48:03.110 --> 00:48:04.820
to find solutions, right?

00:48:04.820 --> 00:48:09.410
And first I think we need to all
agree on what the problem is.

00:48:09.410 --> 00:48:13.820
We haven't built a new boat, everybody's
older, and the industry is almost out.

00:48:13.820 --> 00:48:18.500
The one problem that we recognize is
that what people are seeing on the water,

00:48:18.500 --> 00:48:24.130
on stock assessments, does not reflect
what the assessments are telling us.

00:48:24.130 --> 00:48:28.190
- This doesn't seem to
be resonating, I know.

00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:33.050
But the issue, and what our
surveys are showing, you know,

00:48:33.050 --> 00:48:39.330
and I think we can validly
assert that they are providing

00:48:39.330 --> 00:48:41.300
some measure of relative abundance.

00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:44.640
- It seems to me like it's
almost the industry's fault.

00:48:44.640 --> 00:48:47.340
No matter what we say, we're not believed.

00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:51.370
We're here today to try
to connect with you guys.

00:48:51.370 --> 00:48:56.490
And it seems to me like we're
trying to give everything we have.

00:48:56.490 --> 00:48:57.699
OK?

00:48:57.699 --> 00:49:00.240
And it seems to me right now
that you're still not listening.

00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:01.500
I'm sorry.

00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:05.260
I've been coming to three of these
sessions, and you guys are always going

00:49:05.260 --> 00:49:08.612
to work with us, and we always keep giving.

00:49:08.612 --> 00:49:10.470
But you guys don't give nothing back.

00:49:10.470 --> 00:49:11.910
You keep taking it away.

00:49:11.910 --> 00:49:15.710
I'm asking myself, what are we doing here?

00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:19.490
You already killed me two years ago, and
now you're talking of cutting even more?

00:49:19.490 --> 00:49:21.410
We have nothing now.

00:49:21.410 --> 00:49:24.210
It's not just Joe, it's
everybody else in this room.

00:49:24.210 --> 00:49:26.030
It's all these guys that are with me.

00:49:26.030 --> 00:49:26.690
One...

00:49:26.690 --> 00:49:28.660
this guy fishes alone.

00:49:28.660 --> 00:49:30.260
He only has...

00:49:30.260 --> 00:49:31.960
I don't think you had 1,000 pounds...

00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:32.460
- Codfish.

00:49:32.460 --> 00:49:34.270
- Codfish this year.

00:49:34.270 --> 00:49:35.270
- You make a good point.

00:49:35.270 --> 00:49:39.620
I mean, yeah, a lot of
data have been collected.

00:49:39.620 --> 00:49:42.950
They have not been used
as measures of trend.

00:49:42.950 --> 00:49:48.830
- We cannot be successful in taking on
this challenge unless we work together.

00:49:48.830 --> 00:49:53.300
And unless we have a mechanism within
our organization which opens those doors,

00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:56.600
and which encourages not
just that conversation,

00:49:56.600 --> 00:50:00.010
but concrete activities that
are going to follow from that,

00:50:00.010 --> 00:50:03.200
which is what I think today is all about.

00:50:03.200 --> 00:50:05.270
- I'm a manager, you know?

00:50:05.270 --> 00:50:09.710
And so we managers take that
science, and we make decisions.

00:50:09.710 --> 00:50:15.350
And it's those management decisions
that have resulted in those cuts.

00:50:15.350 --> 00:50:22.520
And the other question is,
do we trust each other?

00:50:22.520 --> 00:50:26.810
The truth is an elusive target here,

00:50:26.810 --> 00:50:29.630
when you're trying to figure
out what fish are out there,

00:50:29.630 --> 00:50:31.550
and what fish aren't out there.

00:50:31.550 --> 00:50:33.210
Are there cod, or are there not cod?

00:50:33.210 --> 00:50:37.190
I know what Paul says, and
then I know what you say.

00:50:37.190 --> 00:50:38.450
Well, who the hell is right?

00:50:42.859 --> 00:50:43.900
- My name is Mike Palmer.

00:50:43.900 --> 00:50:47.316
I'm a research fisheries biologist here
at the Northeast Fisheries Science Center.

00:50:47.316 --> 00:50:49.900
I'm in charge of the Gulf of
Maine cod stock assessment.

00:50:49.900 --> 00:50:53.880
This is the stack of Gulf
of Maine cod assessments.

00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.980
Over five years we have
assessed this cod stock

00:50:56.980 --> 00:51:01.480
about four times, which is about the
most frequently assessed groundfish stock

00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:03.907
that we have in New England.

00:51:03.907 --> 00:51:07.240
If you listen to the fishermen, they'll
tell you that the assessments are wrong,

00:51:07.240 --> 00:51:10.930
there's clearly more fish out there
than what the assessments are saying.

00:51:10.930 --> 00:51:14.530
And I think, ultimately, it's not
really a matter of right or wrong,

00:51:14.530 --> 00:51:16.210
but a matter of perspective.

00:51:16.210 --> 00:51:19.120
For the majority of the small
boat fleet operating in the Gulf

00:51:19.120 --> 00:51:22.060
of Maine, their frame of reference
is the western Gulf of Maine,

00:51:22.060 --> 00:51:24.370
an area that still holds cod.

00:51:24.370 --> 00:51:26.641
My responsibility is to
put all the information --

00:51:26.641 --> 00:51:29.140
not just the information coming
from the commercial fishery,

00:51:29.140 --> 00:51:31.100
but the information coming
from the recreational fishery,

00:51:31.100 --> 00:51:33.910
and the information that we're
collecting from our research surveys

00:51:33.910 --> 00:51:36.410
that are independent from how
the fisheries are operating --

00:51:36.410 --> 00:51:39.550
put all that information
into the larger context.

00:51:39.550 --> 00:51:42.460
The preponderance of evidence
is pointing to the fact

00:51:42.460 --> 00:51:45.700
that today the Gulf of Maine
cod resource is in poor shape.

00:51:45.700 --> 00:51:49.390
We're seeing it in the size composition
of the fish that are being caught --

00:51:49.390 --> 00:51:52.840
not only in the fishery, but
also in our research surveys.

00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.700
We see it in the age composition.

00:51:54.700 --> 00:51:56.830
We don't see young fish
coming into the population.

00:51:56.830 --> 00:52:01.030
We see a loss of the old fish and
the large fish from the population.

00:52:01.030 --> 00:52:03.310
Once we used to have cod
throughout the Gulf of Maine,

00:52:03.310 --> 00:52:06.020
now cod are primarily
concentrated in the Western Gulf.

00:52:09.634 --> 00:52:11.800
And right now we're seeing
some of the lowest levels

00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:13.930
we have ever seen in our research surveys.

00:52:17.637 --> 00:52:19.970
But that's not to say that
cod are commercially extinct,

00:52:19.970 --> 00:52:21.530
or are going to go extinct.

00:52:21.530 --> 00:52:25.100
Eventually these stocks can come
back if they're effectively managed.

00:52:25.100 --> 00:52:26.090
It might take a while.

00:52:26.090 --> 00:52:29.960
It might take 5 years, 10 years,
20 years, but it's something

00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.310
that with good management, and
good science, we can get there.

00:52:33.310 --> 00:52:36.060
But we fundamentally have to lower
the degree of fishing mortality

00:52:36.060 --> 00:52:38.540
in order to see some
growth in the population.

00:53:03.650 --> 00:53:06.290
- The calm before the hopeful storm.

00:53:06.290 --> 00:53:10.040
So you have to watch the tide real
close, because there's no water here.

00:53:10.040 --> 00:53:16.040
This is the most dangerous part of
this whole crossing every morning.

00:53:16.040 --> 00:53:19.820
We can't set half the places we
used to fish with the stand-up gear,

00:53:19.820 --> 00:53:22.130
because it gets filled up with skates.

00:53:22.130 --> 00:53:24.380
Today when we are setting the dogfish gear,

00:53:24.380 --> 00:53:28.130
you'll very likely see a lot of
skates coming up and mixed in

00:53:28.130 --> 00:53:34.416
with the dogfish, which is just really tough
on the gear, and really tough on the guys.

00:53:34.416 --> 00:53:35.480
Time to get ready.

00:53:38.414 --> 00:53:39.392
Oh, yeah.

00:53:39.392 --> 00:53:40.859
Tangled morning huh?

00:53:44.771 --> 00:53:46.238
Watch your hands.

00:53:46.238 --> 00:53:49.180
This is my space, that's yours.

00:53:49.180 --> 00:53:52.820
The codfish stocks are down, and the
dogfish population's upside down.

00:53:52.820 --> 00:53:54.320
That's why we're working on dogfish.

00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:55.506
We can't avoid them.

00:54:03.194 --> 00:54:05.674
Shazam!

00:54:05.674 --> 00:54:09.394
Feel better now?

00:54:09.394 --> 00:54:10.386
True blue!

00:54:10.386 --> 00:54:11.410
They were hiding.

00:54:11.410 --> 00:54:13.605
They were hiding, but they were here.

00:54:13.605 --> 00:54:16.080
(LAUGHTER)

00:54:20.110 --> 00:54:22.240
I groundfished for 19 years.

00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:24.720
Worked on cod and haddock, pollock.

00:54:24.720 --> 00:54:27.250
It used to be you were independent.

00:54:27.250 --> 00:54:30.010
Now Big Brother's so far up your posterior

00:54:30.010 --> 00:54:32.110
that you're no longer independent.

00:54:32.110 --> 00:54:37.350
Now if I go into an exempted
fishery like the dogfishery,

00:54:37.350 --> 00:54:40.680
and just go fishing for dogfish,
I don't need an observer.

00:54:40.680 --> 00:54:42.360
I don't have to declare.

00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:46.170
I don't have to have a boat tracking
device that I have to pay for.

00:54:46.170 --> 00:54:50.280
But each year, the biomass of
dogfish grows, and grows, and grows,

00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.570
and we're not even denting the population.

00:54:53.570 --> 00:54:56.820
This is a great alternative for everybody,

00:54:56.820 --> 00:54:59.240
if we can just develop local markets for it.

00:55:07.350 --> 00:55:09.210
- My name is Jonathan Haffmans.

00:55:09.210 --> 00:55:15.480
I am a local chef from Cape Cod, and
we use local fish, like dogfish, a lot.

00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:16.810
It's a delicious product.

00:55:16.810 --> 00:55:19.450
So in the last four years I switched...

00:55:19.450 --> 00:55:24.970
I had to switch from local codfish
to, like, monkfish or dogfish.

00:55:24.970 --> 00:55:29.320
There's so many things to do with
dogfish, but people don't know yet.

00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.650
We know that we can fish for
dogfish for a very long time.

00:55:32.650 --> 00:55:34.552
There's no more cod on Cape Cod.

00:55:39.790 --> 00:55:42.190
- So today we are at
UMass Boston, where we're

00:55:42.190 --> 00:55:45.940
bringing people who are looking
to put healthy, wild caught,

00:55:45.940 --> 00:55:49.720
sustainable, delicious seafood
on their clients' plates,

00:55:49.720 --> 00:55:52.660
and today we're offering
dogfish for those people.

00:55:52.660 --> 00:55:53.370
- Enjoy.

00:55:53.370 --> 00:55:53.870
- Excellent.

00:55:53.870 --> 00:55:54.570
Thank you.

00:55:54.570 --> 00:55:57.090
- You're welcome.

00:55:57.090 --> 00:55:59.746
- This looks messy.

00:55:59.746 --> 00:56:02.105
- But it's worth it.

00:56:02.105 --> 00:56:04.610
- That is really good.

00:56:04.610 --> 00:56:06.530
- Another convert.

00:56:06.530 --> 00:56:09.450
- So, here we have a Thai-inspired dogfish.

00:56:09.450 --> 00:56:12.440
It's sweet chili and citrus,
a little bit of mint inside,

00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.170
and a mango and green apple salsa.

00:56:15.170 --> 00:56:16.745
- That looks beautiful.

00:56:20.549 --> 00:56:22.910
Mmm.

00:56:22.910 --> 00:56:25.670
There's so much dogfish, so it seems like,

00:56:25.670 --> 00:56:29.270
why couldn't this just take
the same road as the...

00:56:29.270 --> 00:56:32.471
you know, Patagonian toothfish
turned Chilean Seabass?

00:56:32.471 --> 00:56:34.220
We'll take dogfish and make it Cape Shark,

00:56:34.220 --> 00:56:36.230
and look at how beautiful it looks.

00:56:37.940 --> 00:56:41.030
- Plated just ordered a bunch of dogfish

00:56:41.030 --> 00:56:43.460
for their meal delivery
service all over the country.

00:56:43.460 --> 00:56:43.960
- Nice.

00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:46.974
- And then on the university side...
yeah, we've had a lot of success.

00:56:46.974 --> 00:56:49.640
Even in restaurants, like, nice
restaurants in New York you get,

00:56:49.640 --> 00:56:53.270
like, dogfish tacos on a lot of menus.

00:56:53.270 --> 00:56:54.240
- That's fantastic.

00:56:54.240 --> 00:56:54.740
- Yeah.

00:56:54.740 --> 00:56:56.123
I think we're turning a corner.

00:56:56.123 --> 00:56:56.910
- Yeah.

00:56:56.910 --> 00:57:02.390
- Dogfish has not, and will not
replace cod on the center of the plate,

00:57:02.390 --> 00:57:05.060
but it has replaced cod in the ecosystem,

00:57:05.060 --> 00:57:07.490
and so we need to do something about that.

00:57:07.490 --> 00:57:12.920
This is wild caught,
sustainable American seafood,

00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:14.900
and we should be eating it.

00:57:14.900 --> 00:57:17.910
Cape Shark and dogfish is
the way for the future.

00:57:25.490 --> 00:57:25.990
- Truck.

00:57:29.290 --> 00:57:30.060
Up.

00:57:30.060 --> 00:57:31.042
Up, up, up, up, up.

00:57:31.042 --> 00:57:31.542
Up.

00:57:54.690 --> 00:57:56.513
- Dog doesn't do much work, does he?

00:57:56.513 --> 00:57:58.630
- He supervises.

00:57:58.630 --> 00:58:00.400
All right, Morty.

00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.200
Better dump these in and put
the jugs back in the truck.

00:58:05.975 --> 00:58:09.220
The boat's for sale, and
if I do sell this boat --

00:58:09.220 --> 00:58:11.170
which I've had two people interested in --

00:58:11.170 --> 00:58:12.680
I'm not going to buy another one.

00:58:12.680 --> 00:58:15.320
I'm going to move on and pursue
something else, out of fishing.

00:58:18.612 --> 00:58:19.820
I think he knows it's coming.

00:58:19.820 --> 00:58:21.380
I think he knows it's coming.

00:58:21.380 --> 00:58:24.490
I mean, we've chased boats
to try to make it work.

00:58:24.490 --> 00:58:28.930
We've gone from five boats in seven
years, trying to make it work.

00:58:28.930 --> 00:58:29.690
You know?

00:58:29.690 --> 00:58:30.848
So, yeah.

00:58:30.848 --> 00:58:31.931
It's not going to be easy.

00:58:34.520 --> 00:58:36.020
You know this boat's for sale.

00:58:36.020 --> 00:58:36.520
- Yeah.

00:58:36.520 --> 00:58:37.020
- Yeah.

00:58:37.020 --> 00:58:38.710
And I'm not replacing it.

00:58:38.710 --> 00:58:39.490
So...

00:58:39.490 --> 00:58:39.990
- OK.

00:58:39.990 --> 00:58:42.020
- You know, it's nothing to do with you.

00:58:42.020 --> 00:58:42.580
It's time.

00:58:42.580 --> 00:58:44.890
We're not making shit for money.

00:58:44.890 --> 00:58:47.500
I love you like a brother.

00:58:47.500 --> 00:58:49.150
It's just time to go do something else.

00:58:49.150 --> 00:58:52.505
You guys as crew members make money,
but there's a lot of time that we go,

00:58:52.505 --> 00:58:53.227
and we haven't...

00:58:53.227 --> 00:58:55.560
I haven't taken a dime out
of the business in two years.

00:58:55.560 --> 00:58:56.504
Two years.

00:58:56.504 --> 00:58:58.420
I'm not going to beat
my head against the wall

00:58:58.420 --> 00:59:03.520
and work twice as hard for
25% of what we've been making.

00:59:03.520 --> 00:59:04.020
- Right.

00:59:04.020 --> 00:59:05.644
- And I already split the pay with you.

00:59:05.644 --> 00:59:06.310
You see that.

00:59:06.310 --> 00:59:06.600
- I see that.

00:59:06.600 --> 00:59:07.610
- You're making what I'm making.

00:59:07.610 --> 00:59:08.100
You know?

00:59:08.100 --> 00:59:09.090
And I know you have expenses.

00:59:09.090 --> 00:59:09.870
I have expenses.

00:59:09.870 --> 00:59:12.119
And I'm not making it on the
other end with the quota.

00:59:14.170 --> 00:59:16.350
So, there's no money left in it.

00:59:16.350 --> 00:59:17.430
- I know.

00:59:17.430 --> 00:59:18.785
- Well, you know that.

00:59:18.785 --> 00:59:19.865
- Oh, I know that.

00:59:19.865 --> 00:59:20.590
- Yeah.

00:59:20.590 --> 00:59:21.661
So why keep doing it?

00:59:21.661 --> 00:59:22.410
I mean, you're 51.

00:59:22.410 --> 00:59:23.960
It's time to do something else.

00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:25.261
- I'm going to go for a walk.

00:59:25.261 --> 00:59:25.760
- All right.

00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:27.730
If you don't want to talk, then
leave, and we'll take this stuff off.

00:59:27.730 --> 00:59:28.720
- Yeah, I don't want to talk.

00:59:28.720 --> 00:59:30.220
- All right, you don't want to talk?

00:59:30.220 --> 00:59:30.930
- No.

00:59:30.930 --> 00:59:33.262
- Well, don't take off,
because we'll leave then.

00:59:37.681 --> 00:59:39.496
He's never walked off before.

00:59:39.496 --> 00:59:41.870
You know, he might be mad that
I might have ambushed him,

00:59:41.870 --> 00:59:43.990
but he knows it's coming.

00:59:43.990 --> 00:59:50.310
I've hung on to a belief, a way of life,
thinking that I could stick it out,

00:59:50.310 --> 00:59:51.110
and just...

00:59:51.110 --> 00:59:53.630
it's not going to get any better.

00:59:53.630 --> 00:59:55.750
It's not going to get any better.

00:59:55.750 --> 00:59:59.790
So it's time to accept
the fact, and move on.

01:00:10.850 --> 01:00:11.730
- It's devastating.

01:00:11.730 --> 01:00:12.230
I mean...

01:00:15.030 --> 01:00:16.920
I don't know what I'm gonna do.

01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:20.878
I just found out five minutes
ago that I'm gonna lose my job.

01:00:20.878 --> 01:00:21.854
Definitely.

01:00:29.662 --> 01:00:31.126
What am I gonna tell my daughter?

01:00:33.816 --> 01:00:36.440
She always tells me, "Whatever
you do, Dad, don't quit fishing.

01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.640
I want you to stay fishing."

01:00:43.640 --> 01:00:49.430
If I had it all to do over again,
I would definitely fish again.

01:00:49.430 --> 01:00:51.110
I mean, I enjoy being out here.

01:00:51.110 --> 01:00:54.170
I enjoy doing this.

01:00:54.170 --> 01:00:59.270
I mean, there's a lot of good things
that came out of working with Mike,

01:00:59.270 --> 01:01:01.550
and I love him like a father.

01:01:01.550 --> 01:01:05.571
The last few years have been really hard.

01:01:05.571 --> 01:01:06.070
So...

01:01:08.680 --> 01:01:12.140
for right now, I'm going fishing today.

01:01:12.140 --> 01:01:13.960
But after that, I don't know.

01:02:56.050 --> 01:02:58.540
(MUSIC PLAYING)

01:03:03.043 --> 01:03:07.060
- (SINGING) In the wind and the
rain, and the labor and the pain,

01:03:07.060 --> 01:03:10.820
we know what the fishing here is worth.

01:03:10.820 --> 01:03:14.502
It's worth more than gold, as
you suck 'em from the hold.

01:03:14.502 --> 01:03:18.438
It's worth all the treasure of the earth.

01:03:18.438 --> 01:03:22.365
And the river still shines
and shimmers in the light,

01:03:22.365 --> 01:03:26.245
as it did in our grandfathers' day.

01:03:26.245 --> 01:03:32.664
When they rode all night, and fished in
the morning, and lived in Willapa Bay.

01:03:49.528 --> 01:03:53.992
And the river still shines
and shimmers in the light,

01:03:53.992 --> 01:03:57.464
as it did in our grandfathers' day.

01:03:57.464 --> 01:04:05.485
And they rode all night, and fished in
the morning, and lived in Willapa Bay.

01:04:05.485 --> 01:04:11.760
They rode all night, and they fished in
the morning, and lived in Willapa Bay.

01:04:16.860 --> 01:04:20.210
(APPLAUSE)