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[Emily] Okay, babe.

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Mama's gotta do a
couple minutes of...

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How do I

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test this camera?

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[Sophie] [indistinct mumbling]

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[David] You can just open Zoom.

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You can just go into Zoom.

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- Sophie, Mom's gotta
do a little...

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[Sophie] Why you go to work?
Mommy, don't work.

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- Sophie, Mama's gotta do
some work for a minute.

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[Sophie cries]

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[Emily] Sophie, don't cry.
[David] Do you have the app?

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[Emily] This is all I have.
[Sophie] I want milk.

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- Are you gonna put that
on a tripod?

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- What are you gonna do
with it about Sophie?

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[David] She's sitting
there watching.

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[Woman] Here we go.

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[Sophie] I don't want this!

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[Whurley] Hello,
how are you?

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I know you've got
a lot of people, uh,

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vying for your
attention right now,

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so I'm lucky that I...
- Well, what is it?

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I'm happy to hear about it.

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- So, here's what the
venture is.

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It's called The 19th.

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You know, 70% of top
newspaper editors are men.

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Almost all of them
are white.

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And what that means is
that those are the people

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deciding what's news
and what isn't.

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And The 19th is the country's
first non-profit,

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non-partisan newsroom

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at the intersection of women,
politics, and policy.

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The environment
we're in right now,

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um, candidly,
is pretty terrifying.

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The coronavirus took
a lot of wind out of our sails.

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- So what's terrifying
about that

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'cause you're doing a startup

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so that should
be terrifying.

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[both laugh]

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- I mean...
- Maybe you...

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maybe you don't understand
what you're doing...

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- No, I mean...
- ...because,

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you know, you worry
about the virus.

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You're at a startup,

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are you insane?
Like...

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- I know my, my tech...
- Not... and...

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- and just to clear the air...
- Yeah.

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- ...I'm out 'cause
I can't do anything

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until this transaction's done.

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I don't know if you know,
but I work

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with the couple of other
journalism schools

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and I think journalism is dead
in America right now.

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- Oh, that's such
a tragic statement,

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- But it's very upsetting.

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I mean, oh, my God,
it's very upsetting.

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You know, I... I find that most
great startups are founded

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in horrible times like this,
economically, whatever.

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- Um, and all...
- God, that's reassuring.

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Thank you.
- Well, all of...

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all of mine have been.

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Who do you know
from kind of my world,

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like women in the
tech world?

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- Not many.

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I mean, that's the first hurdle.

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- And I... and I all of a sudden
can actually be useful to you.

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[laughs]
- Amazing. Amazing.

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[Whurley] Uh, send me a mail

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that I can send to some
of my female friends.

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[Anchorwoman] Newsrooms
across the country

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have long been accused
of failing to represent

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the communities they cover.

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[energetic music]

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[Anchorman] Stuff in the paper,

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that's not true
do you know that?

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- All I know is...
- ...is what you read

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in the damn newspaper.

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[energetic music]

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[Anchorman] Now this is Joe,

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a photographer from The Star,

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and over there is Charlie,
a reporter.

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- Don Paterson, Valley Time.

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- Good evening,
I'm Roger Grimsby here.

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Now the news.

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- I'm John Slattery.

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- I'm Roger Sharp.

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- I'm Bob.

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- I'm Bob Lee.

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- Bill.
[Bill] Thank you, Vince.

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- Roger.
- Woodword, Bernstein,

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you're both on the story
now don't fuck it up.

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- He said, "You know what?

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You should not take this job

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because women have
no news judgment

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and you can't carry the camera."

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[energetic music]

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- People have asked if I want
to be called an anchorman

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or anchorwoman
or anchorperson.

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I even remember saying,

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"We should do something
on the women's movement."

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And he wrote back,
"Not enough interest."

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[Woman] The problems with
diversity and media

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have existed since
the creation of media.

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[Woman 2] People will think...

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- ...what I tell 'em to think.

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- Let's just look at Air Check
over the last 30 days

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and see how many people of color
appear on their air,

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because there's very, very few.

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[Man] If you don't have
enough women,

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if you don't have enough
Black people

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or other people of color,

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you are going to miss a lot.

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[Man] If you're beginning to
think that the tube is reality,

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you're beginning to believe

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the illusions we're
spinning here.

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[energetic music]

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- Morning Star,

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read all about it.

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Morning paper.

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[energetic music]

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[traffic ambience]

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- I would try to read it with
a little bit of a smile.

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[Emily] Okay.
Okay?

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[Emily] Yep.

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[Promo crew] Um, you don't have
to have a huge smile.

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- Yeah.
- But a little bit of a smile.

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You sounded very serious.
We're...

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- I should sound happy.
- We're... we're more excited

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- about this.
- Yeah.

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[Promo crew] Let's be
excited about it.

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It's hard to be smiling
when you say

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we remain marginalized and go,

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we remain marginalized in
government and elected. Yeah.

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- Um, not really because it...

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you can't separate that
from Donald Trump

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and I don't wanna talk
about Donald Trump

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in this launch video.

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[Promo crew] Okay.

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[Emily] I have grown up in
a journalism environment

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Where I was often the youngest
person in the room.

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Frequently the only woman
in the room.

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- We wanna bring in, uh,
Emily Ramshaw

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from The Texas Tribune.

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She's had a chance to, uh,
observe all of this.

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- Bill Clinton is a fan favorite
for Texas Democrats.

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When this idea
first occurred to me,

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I was on maternity leave.

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I had a brand new baby girl.

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Donald Trump had just
been inaugurated.

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There was women's marches

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taking place all over
the country.

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The MeToo movement
was picking up speed.

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I thought women deserved

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a destination news platform
that is just for them.

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It felt like a huge hole
in the media environment

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that we needed to fill.

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[Amanda] I spent the
better part of my 20s

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working my way across
The Washington Post newsroom.

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I've worked at ProPublica.

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And I had been at
The Texas Tribune

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going on four years.

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I had started being
a lot more attentive

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to just the failures

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of political journalism
in particular.

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[Anchorwoman] Joining me
now from Washington

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is Errin Haines.

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She is a national writer
for the Associated Press.

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- I think that it really
highlights the idea

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that the legacy of
slavery in Jim Crow

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is in fact not passed.

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My dream job was to be
a national race writer

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for the Associated Press.

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Like, that was what I felt

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like was my best and
highest use as a journalist.

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But we knew how huge
of a story race was

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and yet we weren't saying
that as a newsroom.

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Like as a newsroom,
it was not a priority.

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And that's not something
that's restricted

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to the Associated Press,
that is an industry-wide issue.

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[gentle music]

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All right.

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Come on, G.

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You want some breakfast?

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[whirring]

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Oh, man.

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Hi, Ginger.

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You may appreciate my
coffee mug for the day.

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I just realized that.

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OG Suffragist Abigail Adams.

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I got this at the Museum
of the American Revolution.

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It's my favorite place.

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Come on, Ginger, let's go.

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When we were growing up,
I was not allowed

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to watch television
during dinner

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unless we were watching
the news.

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So if I wanted to watch TV,
which I usually did,

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that meant that I was gonna,
uh, watch the news.

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The main anchor on my favorite
television station

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was a Black woman,
Monica Kaufman...

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- The crowded field of
presidential candidates

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has one less man today...

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[Errin] ...who was on air
for most of my life.

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I didn't even realize
that there were

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stations that didn't have
a Black woman

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delivering the news every day

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because I'm from Atlanta

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and most stations had
at least one Black woman.

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That showed me
what was possible.

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And also she just encouraged
my curiosity.

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You know,
I asked a lot of questions.

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I was nosy as hell.

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Uh, that didn't hurt.

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- Yeah.
[Andrea] What's up?

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Well, you know, I swear I...

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I don't try to break news,

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But you know, the news
comes to me and...

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[Andrea] That's how it goes.

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- ...that's what's
happened tonight.

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Uh, so here's where we are.

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Biden campaign just hit me up.

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They have bagged
Corrine John Pierre

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as senior advisor.

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[Andrea] That's great.
[Errin] Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, The Times is
sniffing around on this

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and they're giving it
to us exclusively.

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[Andrea] Very nice.
- All right,

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well I'll hit up Terry

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and I'll keep you posted.

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[Andrea] All right, sounds good.

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All right. Later.

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[Andrea] All right. Bye.
- Bye.

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[gentle music]

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- Uh, we are about to get
on the phone

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with the Pulitzer Center
for Crisis Reporting,

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which is an organization, um,

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that provides emergency support
to news organizations

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during times of crisis.

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We are currently publishing
with The Washington Post

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with our full launch anticipated
for this summer.

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We have so far only had
one reporter, Errin Haines.

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You know, we are simply trying
to keep this brand new

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nonprofit venture, uh, afloat
and perform this kind of work.

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- The kind of support,
in general, I think is a,

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is more of a stretch.

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Yeah, I don't know,
20 or 25 proposals

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in the last week or so
from all over the world.

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- Right now, we're more at
like 40 proposals, uh...

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[Emily] Wow.
- ...John.

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- It'll be 41 applications
pretty soon here.

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I'm sure. [laughs]

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They have a, I mean,
there are a lot of people

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who need a lot right now.

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Um, I'll remain
optimistic, uh...

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[laughs]

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But I think we are, uh,
in really stiff competition

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for a lot of these
grant dollars right now,

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and honestly, like,
as it should be, so...

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[keyboard clacking]

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[Amanda] I just need you
to keep also being like

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not the person who's
with the foot on the gas,

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but is looking for ways
to tell me not to do things.

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- Okay.
[Amanda] To just wait,

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because this week

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was just way too much.

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- I mean, just to be candid,
like this week

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was super hard for me too

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because I'm starting to feel

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like we were mentioning
on the phone,

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I'm starting to feel
the financial pinch.

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[Amanda] I mean, the
problem is that

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I have these expectations too.

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Like, I want us to be a real
news operation and we're not.

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[somber music]

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[Sophie] Mommy, can I work?

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- Can you what? What?

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Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Put... please put that
gently on the couch.

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- I need to work.

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[Emily] You need...
oh, you need to work?

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Journalism is really
the only thing

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I ever wanted to do.

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My parents are both
political journalists.

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I grew up, you know,
having family vacations

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occasionally derailed by wars
or philandering presidents.

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And for me it was just obvious.

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I was, you know, the editor
of the high school newspaper.

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I went to journalism
school for college.

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It's been the only thing
I ever wanted to do,

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and it's the only thing

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I ever want to do
going forward.

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[Sophie] ♪ Twinkle, twinkle ♪

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♪ Little star ♪

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♪ How I wonder... ♪

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Watch me jump.

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Mommy, watch me jump.

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- [chuckles] Watch me pour
myself a stiff drink.

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I mean, what keeps
me up at night

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is ensuring that I can
pay the salaries

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of these extraordinary women who
have left their stable jobs

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to be part of this,

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only to have their lives
turned upside down.

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You know, I also fear fucking
up being a mom right now.

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[keyboard clacking]

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[somber music]

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[Andrea] Errin, we were
just talking

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a little bit about stories
that we had going.

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Is there anything else
that you're thinking about?

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- Um, so you guys have seen
the Ahmaud Arbery case,

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uh, but there's also a woman
who has been killed,

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uh, who has gotten
less attention.

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Um, and so I am,

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um,

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actually kind of

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trying to familiarize
myself with that one.

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Her name is, uh, her name
was Breonna Taylor.

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Uh, 26 years old.

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Same age as Ahmaud Arbery.

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Um, and she was shot
eight times.

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Um, and, uh,

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this happened about
two months ago.

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I talked to Ben Krump, who,

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uh, represented Trayvon Martin
and everybody else.

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He is representing
this family as well.

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They are offering us
the print exclusive today.

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- Okay. Oh, my gosh.

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[Errin] We know that Black men
are the majority of,

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of the folks who are killed
in these kinds of incidents.

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It does happen to Black women,
and when it does,

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those cases don't always
get as much attention.

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And so that's why I felt like

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it was our story to tell.

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[dramatic music builds]

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Uh, am I leaving anything out?

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- I am joined by Errin Haines,

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editor-at-large for The 19th.

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- This was a story that I
frankly had not been aware of.

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A lot of national media,
I think was not aware of.

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- Errin, um, your story in,
uh, The Washington Post,

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I think has moved a
lot of this.

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[indistinct chanting]
[Protestors] Breonna Taylor.

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[indistinct chanting]
[Protestors] Breonna Taylor.

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[Kamala] Breonna Taylor.

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There should be
an investigation.

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- I felt gratified
that I was able

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to get that story to put it out.

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Um, and that we did
that story as The 19th.

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Um...

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like I wanted her story told

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and I felt good that I was the
one that was able to tell it.

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Um, but then when I got up
the next morning,

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you know, I'm scrolling
and I keep seeing this story

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being reposted
and like every time

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that the story is reposted,

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her picture would be
with the story.

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It was just a really
good picture of her.

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And she is only
a couple years older

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than my niece whose
whole life was ahead of her.

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Like, I'd forgotten, like,
um, how it feels

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on the other side
of writing about it.

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Like... like Black Lives Matter
is a story

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that Black journalists
are also living through.

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Like, you know,

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I could,
I could also be a person

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that this could happen to.

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[somber music]

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[Emily] Errin, you were right
to push for this.

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My knee jerk was,
that wasn't a story for us.

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And the, that was
the wrong knee-jerk.

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I was on the phone
with Melinda Gates' people

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this morning and they were all
on a conference call

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talking about that case
when the newsletter

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came through and they were
like, oh, my God,

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it was The 19th
that broke this story.

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You know, Kamala Harris
talking about it.

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That story gave us
a lot of runway yesterday.

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- This is an issue that's
on the ballot for Black voters.

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Um, racism is on the ballot
for Black voters.

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The issue of whether Black
people can be safe in America

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is on the ballot
for Black voters,

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you know, for the women
who are being killed

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and also the women whose
loved ones are being killed.

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Soraya, you were talking about
in this national reckoning,

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allyship and accompliceship.

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I work in a newsroom that's
named for the 19th Amendment,

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uh, but-but with an
asterisk in our logo

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for the omission of-of
the Black women

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who were frankly sacrificed

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so that white women could get
their access to the ballot.

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Uh, what have they done with it?

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You know, used that
access largely

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to uphold systems of patriarchy
and oppression, right?

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So, you know, that is a
dynamic that persists,

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uh, and it's a dynamic
that we have to confront.

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A group of us met at this
like super clandestine meeting

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in Austin and really kind of
hammered out the vision

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for the newsroom, including,
you know, the name

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because Emily wanted to name it
for the 19th Amendment,

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but was fully aware that
that amendment

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had a complicated history.

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And so I suggested that
we put the asterisk on.

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You know, the asterisk
is also really helpful

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shorthand for us, editorially.

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Everything that I write,
you know, I'm trying to think,

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you know, who-whose voice
are we not including?

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Who else can we bring
into this conversation?

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What is the question
that we, uh, could ask

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that will actually
get us to some insight,

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something that we didn't
actually know before?

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[computer chimes]

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- Hey, I'll start with
some good news.

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Who needs some good news?

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[All] Woo.
[Errin] All of us, everyone.

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- Well, the first good news
was this morning

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Melinda Gates' $500,000 gift
got confirmed.

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We also this morning got another
hundred-thousand-dollar gift

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from a young woman
philanthropist,

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which is awesome.

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So we are hiring, uh,
women and the economy reporter,

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women and healthcare reporter.

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We have just hired a
congressional correspondent.

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[upbeat music]

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- The federal minimum wage has
not been raised by Congress

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since 2007.

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- Technically it wasn't.

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Didn't go into effect
until 2009.

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[Bernie] ...raise $15 an hour
the right thing to do,

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it is also what the
overwhelming majority

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of Americans want us to do.

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[Chabeli] Stop licking.

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Stop licking, Flynn.

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Goddamn it.

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I've been a reporter
in Florida for a few years.

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I worked at the Miami Herald
and at the Orlando Sentinel.

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I wasn't just
looking at this job

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because it was a national job.

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I was looking at the job,

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the job because of what
the coverage area called for,

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because they were
looking at a group of people

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that I cared a lot about.

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Um, you know, people of color

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and women and LGBTQ folks,

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people on the margins.

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That's what I wanted to cover.

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My mom was an engineer in Cuba,

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but she didn't renew
that title here.

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It was actually fairly
complicated to do that

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so she worked
as a housekeeper.

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My aunt is a home care worker

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and my uncle works
in construction.

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Over time, I had found
that covering workers and labor

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have become a really big
interest of mine in particular,

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and especially
marginalized communities.

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I think those were the stories
I could identify with the most,

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and they were not the stories
that were being written.

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[Anchorwoman] Passing this
minimum wage bill

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would do more to close
the pay equity gap

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than pretty much
any other single measure

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you could take now than just...

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[keyboard clacking]

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[gentle music]

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- I like that Viacom still sends
me stuff like I work there.

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"A savings benefit just for you.

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Open your special Viacom
employee discount code."

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I'm like, I don't work for...

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you laid me off.

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This is a list of the
signers of The Promise

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to protect America's children
from transgender people.

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It's written by
Southern Poverty Law Center,

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um...

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designated hate groups.

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And I'm looking
at the people

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who have signed
onto The Promise.

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This is state lawmakers

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and I'm trying to compare it
to states

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where anti-trans
legislation has been filed.

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Blake Thompson, bingo.

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There he is.

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Before I was at The 19th,

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I was doing
national LGBTQ news

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mostly for NBC.

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I was tired of writing news
for clicks, for ads.

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My whole life, I wanted
to do the stories

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that I felt like I
needed to read

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that weren't being
covered elsewhere.

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And I was always frustrated

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when I felt like six
other media outlets

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were doing a story.

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And an editor came
to me and was like,

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"Would you cover this?"

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And I wanted to be like, "Why?"

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It's already being covered.

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Like, why do we need
to do the thing

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that's already out there?

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At The 19th,

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the purpose is let's create
the thing that's not,

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that's not created. Right?

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And I feel really lucky

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to be in a position
where that's the work

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that I get to do now.

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[computer dings]

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- Hey, Kate.

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- Good morning.

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- Errin, in your TV hit
this morning,

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did I see Ginger
in the background,

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or was that a shadow?

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- Oh, probably.

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She sits in the chair with me
so she doesn't act a fool.

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[Emily] For everyone who wants
to know what this is,

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by the way,
we're about to show you

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the full launch trailer
video for The 19th.

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- We are firm believers
that all issues

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are women's issues.

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[Emily] Our goal is to launch
the first newsroom

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that is truly reflective
of the nation's women.

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- There's more women running now
than ever have been before.

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- The newsrooms need
to be more inclusive.

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They need to better
reflect their communities.

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The 19th has the
opportunity to do that

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from the ground floor,

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and we're not wasting
that opportunity.

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[Amanda] Kate?

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- Yeah, one thing
I'm curious about,

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um, you know, we talk
a lot about women,

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which is the market.

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Um, and I'm wondering
if there's any plan

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to talk about the fact

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that The 19th is really
gender inclusive,

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um, in terms of, you know,

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trans women and
gender diversity,

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um, in terms of
trans people generally,

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and if that's something
that you want to explore.

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- Yes, I mean, I think
the answer to that

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is we absolutely
want to explore it

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and we wanna play it up.

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And, you know, obviously
we've talked about women,

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you know, and-and this sort of,
you know, primary,

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um, audience of more
than half of the population.

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But we pivoted to using
gender language super early.

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You know, trying to
signal to the world

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that inclusivity is
exceedingly important to us.

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And so, could you and I
make a date to talk through

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some of those things?

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That would be informative,

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educational, and also just
super on brand for us.

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[Kate] Yeah, I would love that.

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Cool, thank you.

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[upbeat music]

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[Andrea] We're launching
this week.

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- My launch story is on trans
voter disenfranchisement.

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- Why the Vice Presidency
matters this cycle

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in particular.

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- Women being disproportionately
affected in terms of

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depression and anxiety
in the pandemic.

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- Kick in the door, everybody.

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- I have mostly felt like,
is this a dream?

00:23:42.722 --> 00:23:45.099
Is it real? Is it happening?
And it's happening.

00:23:45.099 --> 00:23:48.978
Mommy's new website
starts today.

00:23:48.978 --> 00:23:50.396
[David] Good luck today, Mama.

00:23:52.815 --> 00:23:54.650
- Oh, thank you so much.
I really appreciate that.

00:23:54.650 --> 00:23:55.568
- Good luck today.

00:23:55.568 --> 00:23:57.111
- My story is gonna be
the first one

00:23:57.111 --> 00:23:58.780
that is gonna be
up on the website.

00:23:58.780 --> 00:24:00.656
I am not nervous
about that at all.

00:24:00.656 --> 00:24:01.574
Oh my God.

00:24:01.574 --> 00:24:03.910
It's about, uh, the first
female recession

00:24:03.910 --> 00:24:04.869
in the United States.

00:24:04.869 --> 00:24:08.539
- Um, Meghan Markle's
publicist just called

00:24:08.539 --> 00:24:11.542
and said that
she and Prince Harry

00:24:11.542 --> 00:24:13.711
are very interested
in what we're doing.

00:24:13.711 --> 00:24:16.047
- Seriously, like, the
universe is responding

00:24:16.047 --> 00:24:18.132
to this mission
and vision, people.

00:24:18.132 --> 00:24:20.176
Like, everything is possible.

00:24:20.176 --> 00:24:22.553
Get that chick a button
and a sticker.

00:24:22.553 --> 00:24:26.557
[upbeat music]

00:24:26.557 --> 00:24:29.393
- Abby is about to switch
19thnews.org

00:24:29.393 --> 00:24:31.896
to point to our new website.

00:24:31.896 --> 00:24:34.565
- With this finger.
- Yep.

00:24:35.107 --> 00:24:36.359
- Oh, my God.

00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:37.819
- Oh, my God, oh, my God.

00:24:37.819 --> 00:24:40.029
- We are live in Syracuse.

00:24:40.029 --> 00:24:41.989
- We are live in Chicago.

00:24:41.989 --> 00:24:44.075
- It's called The 19th.

00:24:44.075 --> 00:24:50.873
[speaking Spanish]

00:24:50.873 --> 00:24:55.044
- Turning now to a newsroom made
for our times, The 19th...

00:24:55.044 --> 00:24:58.130
- It's hard enough to get a
new publication launched,

00:24:58.130 --> 00:25:01.050
but then to do it at
the beginning of a pandemic.

00:25:01.050 --> 00:25:02.802
- This has just been
a really hard year

00:25:02.802 --> 00:25:04.595
and it's just really
beautiful to see everything

00:25:04.595 --> 00:25:05.847
like actually working

00:25:05.847 --> 00:25:07.890
like we've been working
our asses off.

00:25:09.058 --> 00:25:10.744
[Emily] Who does not
have a champagne?

00:25:10.772 --> 00:25:12.565
[Clarice] Woohoo!

00:25:12.963 --> 00:25:14.715
[Anchorwoman] Ramshaw
along with Amanda Zamora,

00:25:14.715 --> 00:25:17.134
who was the Texas Tribune's
Chief Audience Officer,

00:25:17.134 --> 00:25:19.637
are launching a new
non-profit newsroom.

00:25:19.637 --> 00:25:21.263
They've called it The 19th.

00:25:21.263 --> 00:25:23.140
And it will focus
on the impact of politics

00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:24.809
and policy on women.

00:25:27.686 --> 00:25:30.815
- We've had so much interest
in republishing already.

00:25:30.815 --> 00:25:35.736
- [laughs] Did I pick up my
three copies of USA Today?

00:25:35.736 --> 00:25:37.988
There you are.

00:25:37.988 --> 00:25:39.323
[Meghan] This can be
the catalyst

00:25:39.323 --> 00:25:41.617
for reset for other
news organizations.

00:25:41.642 --> 00:25:43.644
It's going to change
the game so much.

00:25:43.679 --> 00:25:46.306
- Stacy, thank you so much
for being here with us today.

00:25:46.306 --> 00:25:47.808
- Thank you so much,
Secretary Clinton,

00:25:47.808 --> 00:25:48.934
for joining us today.

00:25:48.934 --> 00:25:50.185
- I'm Zoe Saldaña.

00:25:50.185 --> 00:25:51.562
- My name is Demi.

00:25:51.562 --> 00:25:53.564
- Hi, I'm Meryl Streep
and I'm proud

00:25:53.564 --> 00:25:56.191
to be a part of
The 19th represents.

00:25:58.902 --> 00:26:00.153
- Emily.
- Mm-hmm.

00:26:00.153 --> 00:26:00.988
- I'll see you...

00:26:00.988 --> 00:26:02.781
Are you gonna
come here tomorrow?

00:26:02.781 --> 00:26:04.950
[Emily] I don't know
what I'm gonna do.

00:26:04.950 --> 00:26:07.244
I can't think right now.

00:26:07.786 --> 00:26:09.037
- Okay, bye.

00:26:09.913 --> 00:26:12.499
- Um, um,

00:26:12.499 --> 00:26:14.209
check out the
Slack conversation

00:26:14.209 --> 00:26:16.545
between Andrea
and Abby and you and me

00:26:16.545 --> 00:26:18.171
when you have a second.

00:26:21.800 --> 00:26:23.886
Heather, what I'm showing,
uh, Amanda is not going

00:26:23.886 --> 00:26:25.429
- in the documentary. Sorry.
- Oh, okay.

00:26:26.263 --> 00:26:27.681
Are you mic'd up
or not mic'd up?

00:26:27.681 --> 00:26:29.115
- No.
- Okay.

00:26:41.778 --> 00:26:42.738
[Kate] There had been a thought

00:26:42.738 --> 00:26:46.366
that like we should
cover LGBTQ issues,

00:26:46.366 --> 00:26:49.244
but no, like,

00:26:49.244 --> 00:26:51.371
foresight about

00:26:51.371 --> 00:26:53.832
what it would mean to bring

00:26:53.832 --> 00:26:55.667
an actual trans person on staff.

00:26:55.667 --> 00:26:57.794
So like every,
all every conversation

00:26:57.794 --> 00:27:00.756
was like, "Hey ladies, like,

00:27:00.756 --> 00:27:03.634
I love you, you women, like,
you are all my sisters."

00:27:03.634 --> 00:27:05.802
Like, every five seconds

00:27:05.802 --> 00:27:08.555
I was misgendered
as this group of people,

00:27:08.555 --> 00:27:11.475
like internally, publicly.

00:27:11.475 --> 00:27:12.601
I just felt so broken.

00:27:12.601 --> 00:27:15.312
I was like, I can't

00:27:15.312 --> 00:27:17.105
believe that I walked
into this,

00:27:17.105 --> 00:27:19.566
like everybody was so excited

00:27:19.566 --> 00:27:20.984
and just celebrating all day

00:27:20.984 --> 00:27:22.736
and I spent the whole day

00:27:22.736 --> 00:27:25.322
in my apartment

00:27:25.322 --> 00:27:27.115
crying in bed.

00:27:28.784 --> 00:27:33.789
Internally, like, people
need to be challenged,

00:27:33.789 --> 00:27:36.208
um, to think about...

00:27:37.334 --> 00:27:38.585
[sighs]

00:27:39.711 --> 00:27:41.630
outside of their experiences.

00:27:41.630 --> 00:27:46.677
[dramatic music]
[bell ringing]

00:27:46.677 --> 00:27:47.844
- Please stop.

00:27:47.844 --> 00:27:49.429
Sir, I'm asking you to stop.

00:27:49.429 --> 00:27:51.098
[Man] Please don't come
close to me.

00:27:51.098 --> 00:27:52.557
- Sir, I'm asking to stop
recording.

00:27:52.557 --> 00:27:53.767
[Man] Please don't come
close to me.

00:27:53.767 --> 00:27:55.727
- Please take your phone off.
- Please don't come close to me.

00:27:55.727 --> 00:27:58.981
- I'm calling the cops.
- Please call the cops.

00:27:58.981 --> 00:28:00.440
Please call the cops.

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:02.317
- I'm gonna tell them there's
an African American man

00:28:02.317 --> 00:28:03.276
threatening my life.

00:28:03.276 --> 00:28:05.278
[Man] Please tell them
whatever you like.

00:28:07.572 --> 00:28:11.451
- I mean, I... this just, um,

00:28:11.451 --> 00:28:12.536
this was alarming.

00:28:12.536 --> 00:28:14.246
I mean her weaponizing,

00:28:14.246 --> 00:28:16.707
um, you know, white tears
to potentially,

00:28:16.707 --> 00:28:18.333
uh, cause harm
to this Black man.

00:28:18.333 --> 00:28:19.668
I mean, luckily
nothing happened,

00:28:19.668 --> 00:28:21.586
but there is a concern
that white women

00:28:21.586 --> 00:28:23.046
are still harmful,

00:28:23.046 --> 00:28:25.507
uh, to people of color
in America.

00:28:25.507 --> 00:28:27.718
I mean, there was a part
that was off camera

00:28:27.718 --> 00:28:30.345
that he basically released
a transcript of it

00:28:30.345 --> 00:28:32.055
where he basically says,
you're not gonna like

00:28:32.055 --> 00:28:33.473
what I'm about to do.

00:28:33.473 --> 00:28:34.599
So I think,

00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.144
I think she thought he was gonna
take her dog away from her

00:28:37.144 --> 00:28:40.147
and she just like started
spewing racist shit.

00:28:40.147 --> 00:28:43.358
Like, that's my guess from
looking at this transcript.

00:28:43.358 --> 00:28:44.776
But even so,

00:28:44.776 --> 00:28:46.820
I mean, it's just like
that-that's what come,

00:28:46.820 --> 00:28:48.071
comes out of your mouth.

00:28:48.071 --> 00:28:49.698
- in those moments?
- Correct.

00:28:49.698 --> 00:28:53.535
- It's like the depth of racism
in the American psyche,

00:28:53.535 --> 00:28:54.828
the white woman's psych...

00:28:54.828 --> 00:28:56.830
or the white anyone's psyche.

00:28:56.830 --> 00:28:59.624
[crosstalk]

00:28:59.624 --> 00:29:01.001
- Or would a,
I mean like, honestly,

00:29:01.001 --> 00:29:04.421
would a white man in the park
have responded the same way?

00:29:04.421 --> 00:29:06.173
I think it's possible...
[chuckles]

00:29:06.173 --> 00:29:08.550
Like, a terrible thing.

00:29:08.550 --> 00:29:11.011
- Um, well, I mean,
I think... okay.

00:29:11.011 --> 00:29:15.265
So, um, it... this is a dynamic

00:29:15.265 --> 00:29:16.892
that goes back to slavery.

00:29:16.892 --> 00:29:20.228
I mean, like, white women
lied on slave,

00:29:20.228 --> 00:29:21.563
enslaved people all the time.

00:29:21.563 --> 00:29:22.981
I mean, Emmett Till.

00:29:22.981 --> 00:29:24.941
Uh, I mean, there were
so many lynchings

00:29:24.941 --> 00:29:28.028
that were the result
of, um, you know,

00:29:28.028 --> 00:29:29.362
a white woman
making something up.

00:29:29.362 --> 00:29:31.239
It was a whole premise of
"To Kill a Mockingbird."

00:29:31.239 --> 00:29:34.534
I mean, you know, I... you know,
it's just like it, um,

00:29:34.534 --> 00:29:38.914
it is a thing in,
uh, with a long history,

00:29:38.914 --> 00:29:41.625
uh, in our country,

00:29:41.625 --> 00:29:45.378
uh, and is its own
specific type of racism,

00:29:45.378 --> 00:29:46.922
uh, in America.
- That's the lens.

00:29:46.922 --> 00:29:49.299
- Well, I mean--
- That's the asterisk.

00:29:49.299 --> 00:29:54.805
[dramatic music]

00:29:54.805 --> 00:29:55.764
[Anchorwoman]
This is on point.

00:29:55.764 --> 00:29:56.765
Errin Haines is with us.

00:29:56.765 --> 00:29:59.351
She's editor-at-large
for The 19th.

00:29:59.351 --> 00:30:00.685
[Errin] Amy Cooper's actions.

00:30:00.685 --> 00:30:02.395
The reason that
they were so problematic

00:30:02.395 --> 00:30:05.315
and troubling is that
her weaponizing 911

00:30:05.315 --> 00:30:08.235
in that way can lead
to just the type of moments

00:30:08.235 --> 00:30:11.613
that end up in the tragic
situation with George Floyd.

00:30:13.031 --> 00:30:15.075
One of the main
questions confronting us

00:30:15.075 --> 00:30:17.661
is, "What is the onus
on white people,

00:30:17.661 --> 00:30:21.039
uh, many of whom frankly
have only recently begun

00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.750
to consider questions
of white privilege?"

00:30:23.750 --> 00:30:27.212
Because what we've seen
is that this is who we are.

00:30:32.717 --> 00:30:34.010
I'm fucking exhausted,

00:30:34.010 --> 00:30:35.637
if I'm being honest with you.

00:30:35.637 --> 00:30:39.015
I mean, um, it is exhausting.

00:30:39.015 --> 00:30:40.392
Uh, I feel like sometimes

00:30:40.392 --> 00:30:41.810
I've been writing
the same story

00:30:41.810 --> 00:30:44.729
for, uh, the better
part of 10 years.

00:30:44.729 --> 00:30:46.189
[computer dings]

00:30:46.189 --> 00:30:48.275
- I'm actually surprised
I didn't see that much else

00:30:48.275 --> 00:30:49.651
that was right.

00:30:51.695 --> 00:30:53.113
- I mean, centering women
does not mean

00:30:53.113 --> 00:30:54.906
celebrating them all
the time, right?

00:30:54.906 --> 00:30:57.612
Like, it means to be
honest about women,

00:30:57.637 --> 00:30:58.702
all women.

00:30:58.702 --> 00:31:02.080
[Emily] I, as a white woman
of privilege, was thinking,

00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:03.456
okay, so like, what's the angle?

00:31:03.456 --> 00:31:05.208
What's the gender angle here?

00:31:05.208 --> 00:31:07.169
And at the end of the day,
it's like so obvious

00:31:07.169 --> 00:31:10.041
that this is a problem for...
this is white women.

00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:11.590
Like this is,
this is what happens

00:31:11.590 --> 00:31:13.884
when white women
aren't even aware

00:31:13.884 --> 00:31:15.427
of their own privilege.

00:31:15.427 --> 00:31:18.263
Um, anyway, I just,
I'm glad we pushed it through.

00:31:18.263 --> 00:31:20.015
I'm glad we sort of,

00:31:20.015 --> 00:31:22.475
we all saw the gender lens
on this, um.

00:31:22.475 --> 00:31:24.060
- Really, really worthy angle

00:31:24.060 --> 00:31:25.687
and I'm very glad
that we did it.

00:31:25.687 --> 00:31:28.315
- That you did it, Errin.
- Me too.

00:31:28.315 --> 00:31:30.358
- You know, even the most
well-meaning newsrooms

00:31:30.358 --> 00:31:34.946
can be grappling with issues
of racism or inequality.

00:31:34.946 --> 00:31:37.532
You know, Emily, one of,
one of the core values

00:31:37.532 --> 00:31:39.993
that she wanted
to be at the center

00:31:39.993 --> 00:31:44.623
of this newsroom was
equity and equality.

00:31:44.623 --> 00:31:46.124
And so, you know,

00:31:46.124 --> 00:31:49.377
we have to think about that
and we have to talk about that

00:31:49.377 --> 00:31:52.464
in all that we do to make sure
that we are living up

00:31:52.464 --> 00:31:56.468
to that value and that
we mean what we say

00:31:56.468 --> 00:31:58.345
when we say that
this is something

00:31:58.345 --> 00:32:00.847
that we prioritize
and that we care about.

00:32:00.847 --> 00:32:02.390
And I know that I work

00:32:02.390 --> 00:32:04.809
With people
who share that hope.

00:32:12.804 --> 00:32:13.805
Um, okay.

00:32:13.805 --> 00:32:16.140
What are you gonna
wear on Thursday?

00:32:16.474 --> 00:32:18.101
Solid colors.

00:32:18.101 --> 00:32:19.435
- Before we go to fun stuff,

00:32:19.435 --> 00:32:22.188
I just have to tell you.

00:32:24.023 --> 00:32:25.859
- Are you gonna tell me
on camera or off camera?

00:32:25.859 --> 00:32:27.151
- I'm just telling you,
I don't care.

00:32:27.151 --> 00:32:28.278
- Okay. Okay. Good.

00:32:28.278 --> 00:32:30.154
- Well, do you not want me
to tell you on camera?

00:32:30.154 --> 00:32:31.573
- No, I don't what
you're gonna say, so...

00:32:31.573 --> 00:32:32.490
- I'm just stressed out.

00:32:32.490 --> 00:32:34.450
Like I feel like there's...

00:32:35.201 --> 00:32:38.246
the team is just eager for us
to be hiring for new beats

00:32:38.246 --> 00:32:41.207
and for us to have more people
for them to work with

00:32:41.207 --> 00:32:43.042
and like resourcing
and staffing up.

00:32:43.042 --> 00:32:46.254
But like, we also have
to be doing it

00:32:46.254 --> 00:32:48.298
at a pace that is sane.

00:32:48.298 --> 00:32:49.591
We also need
to be doing it

00:32:49.591 --> 00:32:51.885
in an inclusive
and equitable way.

00:32:51.885 --> 00:32:54.387
These things are just
in a constant tension.

00:32:54.387 --> 00:32:55.847
[Emily] But I think
before we do that,

00:32:55.847 --> 00:32:57.432
we need to make sure
we're providing

00:32:57.432 --> 00:32:59.684
the basic supports that
our existing team needs

00:32:59.684 --> 00:33:01.644
to not feel like
they're falling apart.

00:33:01.644 --> 00:33:03.313
[Amanda] Concur, we're too tiny.

00:33:03.313 --> 00:33:05.106
And if the lesson,

00:33:05.106 --> 00:33:06.649
if this year has
taught us anything,

00:33:06.649 --> 00:33:08.902
it's just like

00:33:08.902 --> 00:33:10.528
we're, we're doing too much.

00:33:10.528 --> 00:33:12.113
It's like, how are we
gonna have an impact?

00:33:12.113 --> 00:33:14.365
We're such a tiny team.

00:33:15.825 --> 00:33:17.911
The realization that of course

00:33:17.911 --> 00:33:20.455
not only women
are adversely affected

00:33:20.455 --> 00:33:22.206
by their gender identity.

00:33:22.206 --> 00:33:25.001
That was like my first, ugh,

00:33:25.001 --> 00:33:28.254
like, I have totally fucked up.

00:33:28.254 --> 00:33:30.214
We weren't intentional
about incorporating

00:33:30.214 --> 00:33:33.384
this other aspect of gender

00:33:33.384 --> 00:33:35.011
when we hired Kate.

00:33:35.970 --> 00:33:37.764
Learning everything
that I have learned to date,

00:33:37.764 --> 00:33:39.307
if I had to do that over again,

00:33:39.307 --> 00:33:41.434
I may have waited
on that hire and said,

00:33:41.434 --> 00:33:44.854
"Would this person
feel welcome, included?

00:33:44.854 --> 00:33:46.397
Are we prepared
to support them?"

00:33:46.397 --> 00:33:49.692
Just so many
fundamental questions

00:33:49.692 --> 00:33:52.737
that we should have raised
that we didn't.

00:33:52.737 --> 00:33:54.989
And it was just another thing

00:33:54.989 --> 00:33:56.908
that happened
in this like whirlwind

00:33:56.933 --> 00:33:59.305
of getting The 19th
off the ground.

00:34:00.232 --> 00:34:01.525
[Emily] I'm so sorry again
that I missed

00:34:01.525 --> 00:34:02.734
last week's meeting.

00:34:02.734 --> 00:34:04.486
So I just wanted to walk through

00:34:04.486 --> 00:34:06.279
a couple of points
of conversation there.

00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.407
Um, basically they were
questioning

00:34:08.407 --> 00:34:10.575
how we are working
to serve women

00:34:10.575 --> 00:34:13.995
and others who don't identify
as progressive.

00:34:13.995 --> 00:34:16.623
Um, like I kept using,

00:34:16.623 --> 00:34:17.958
and it's all over our website,

00:34:17.958 --> 00:34:20.085
but I kept using the word
"intersectional."

00:34:20.085 --> 00:34:23.255
That's a term that's really only
used by progressive people.

00:34:23.255 --> 00:34:24.965
- I'm curious

00:34:24.965 --> 00:34:27.426
what your sort of feelings
are about it.

00:34:27.426 --> 00:34:29.761
- At the end of the day,
do I think our work,

00:34:29.761 --> 00:34:31.972
work that's focused
on gender equity

00:34:31.972 --> 00:34:34.724
is gonna, is gonna,
is going to,

00:34:34.724 --> 00:34:38.687
um, really deeply resonate
with the far right?

00:34:38.687 --> 00:34:41.022
Like, no, I'm not totally nuts,

00:34:41.022 --> 00:34:42.566
I'm not completely naive,

00:34:42.566 --> 00:34:44.943
but I think there are a
lot of people

00:34:44.943 --> 00:34:47.946
who fall on the spectrum
between that

00:34:47.946 --> 00:34:51.074
and-and the ultra-left.

00:34:51.074 --> 00:34:53.034
The last thing I wanna do ever

00:34:53.034 --> 00:34:55.203
is alienate an audience.

00:34:55.203 --> 00:34:56.913
So I don't know...

00:34:56.913 --> 00:34:58.874
I'm, you know,
I'm just rambling on this.

00:34:58.874 --> 00:34:59.749
I struggle with this.

00:34:59.749 --> 00:35:01.334
I'm grappling with this.

00:35:01.441 --> 00:35:03.236
[dramatic music]

00:35:03.248 --> 00:35:06.401
[crowd clamoring]
[door banging]

00:35:06.414 --> 00:35:08.583
[Anchorwoman] Looks like we've
lost the signal from Lisa

00:35:08.583 --> 00:35:11.919
and we're hearing
some sort of alarm go off.

00:35:11.919 --> 00:35:14.505
[Lisa] Capitol Police are now
on this floor...

00:35:14.505 --> 00:35:19.010
[indistinct chatter]

00:35:19.010 --> 00:35:28.227
[dramatic music]

00:36:22.115 --> 00:36:24.492
- I mean, it-it's made me
think really deeply

00:36:24.492 --> 00:36:26.702
about who we cover
and who we serve.

00:36:26.702 --> 00:36:28.621
Both as-as journalists
and journalists

00:36:28.621 --> 00:36:31.624
whose peers and colleagues
are, were in the Capitol.

00:36:31.624 --> 00:36:33.209
Uh, and as Americans,

00:36:33.209 --> 00:36:36.504
it was just deeply,
deeply unsettling.

00:36:37.672 --> 00:36:39.799
You know, it-it may
be a turning point

00:36:39.799 --> 00:36:41.467
for our organization,
I don't know.

00:36:41.467 --> 00:36:42.885
You know, we've-we've tried

00:36:42.885 --> 00:36:44.512
to be as transparent
as we can be

00:36:44.512 --> 00:36:46.305
about the fact that,
you know, this isn't,

00:36:46.305 --> 00:36:48.266
our journalism isn't
about both sidesism.

00:36:48.266 --> 00:36:50.434
In some cases there aren't
two sides. [laughs]

00:36:50.434 --> 00:36:53.354
And you know, obviously this is
one of those circumstances

00:36:53.354 --> 00:36:55.231
where you need
to be really on the nose

00:36:55.231 --> 00:36:57.191
about who's perpetrating
these crimes,

00:36:57.191 --> 00:37:00.319
who's putting, uh, Americans
and elected officials in danger.

00:37:00.319 --> 00:37:01.737
And obviously in this case,

00:37:01.737 --> 00:37:04.073
it was the President
of the United States.

00:37:04.073 --> 00:37:09.996
[gentle music]

00:37:11.581 --> 00:37:14.167
[Errin] Fried. Totally frazzled.

00:37:14.167 --> 00:37:17.753
I'm reading a book about, um,

00:37:17.753 --> 00:37:19.213
"The Color Purple"
and Alice Walker

00:37:19.213 --> 00:37:20.882
and one of the things
that she says in that book

00:37:20.882 --> 00:37:22.216
is that, uh,

00:37:22.216 --> 00:37:24.468
"I write whatever I feel
needs to be written.

00:37:24.468 --> 00:37:25.761
I work for the ancestors."

00:37:25.761 --> 00:37:27.388
Period.

00:37:27.388 --> 00:37:38.649
[dramatic music]

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[computer dings]
[Abby J] Hello.

00:37:49.529 --> 00:37:52.115
- Hi.
[Abby J] How's it going?

00:37:52.371 --> 00:37:53.747
- Andrea was like, I realize

00:37:53.747 --> 00:37:55.624
that you're doing
all these stories

00:37:55.624 --> 00:37:57.668
that like tell you
you're not a human.

00:37:57.668 --> 00:38:00.295
If you need to just take a day,
go ahead.

00:38:00.295 --> 00:38:02.506
And I was like, thank you.

00:38:02.506 --> 00:38:03.757
- That's fair.

00:38:03.757 --> 00:38:06.927
For real, like, I hope,
I hope you know that you can

00:38:06.927 --> 00:38:09.179
always just be like,
"Abby, I can't today."

00:38:09.179 --> 00:38:10.347
Like, and...

00:38:10.347 --> 00:38:14.560
- Do you know how like
not common that is? [laughs]

00:38:14.560 --> 00:38:17.938
That's like not a real thing
that newsrooms do for people.

00:38:19.188 --> 00:38:25.160
[road ambience]

00:38:26.894 --> 00:38:27.895
- There they are.

00:38:27.895 --> 00:38:29.605
Loading up and I'm here
just driving around

00:38:29.605 --> 00:38:31.232
like a maniac.

00:38:31.524 --> 00:38:32.608
Hello.

00:38:32.608 --> 00:38:34.151
[Kelly B] Oh, I don't
have my mask on.

00:38:34.151 --> 00:38:36.028
- No, that's all right.
- Nice to meet, meet you.

00:38:36.028 --> 00:38:38.489
We do have to take
diapers today

00:38:38.489 --> 00:38:40.116
cause they're running lows
on fives and sixes.

00:38:40.116 --> 00:38:42.493
Sixes you said they were okay,
so I didn't pack any sixes.

00:38:42.493 --> 00:38:43.744
[Kelly P] Okay, gotcha.

00:38:45.156 --> 00:38:47.241
Diaper need is an indicator

00:38:47.241 --> 00:38:50.244
of so many of these
other issues.

00:38:50.244 --> 00:38:52.663
We settled on this
diaper bank in Missouri

00:38:52.663 --> 00:38:55.082
just pulling it together
to help reach

00:38:55.082 --> 00:38:57.126
the most vulnerable people
in the country.

00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.212
[Kelly] And so, even though
it's a very well-known

00:39:00.212 --> 00:39:01.630
touristy area--

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[Chabeli] Mm-hmm.

00:39:03.007 --> 00:39:05.843
- the families in need,

00:39:05.843 --> 00:39:08.137
it's a significant need.

00:39:10.055 --> 00:39:11.348
[Chabeli] The last big story

00:39:11.348 --> 00:39:12.892
that I worked on before
I came to The 19th

00:39:12.892 --> 00:39:14.351
was a story called "Labor Land"

00:39:14.351 --> 00:39:17.188
that was about Disney workers.

00:39:17.188 --> 00:39:20.316
There was some back and forth
about whether people

00:39:20.316 --> 00:39:22.776
wanted to read
about poor people

00:39:22.776 --> 00:39:25.279
and about whether that was
even our readership

00:39:25.279 --> 00:39:27.364
and whether we should focus
more on the middle class

00:39:27.364 --> 00:39:29.116
or try to bring the
middle class in

00:39:29.116 --> 00:39:32.495
and yeah, sure.

00:39:32.495 --> 00:39:34.914
But that wasn't really what
I wanted to write about.

00:39:34.914 --> 00:39:37.208
This problem does not
stop being relevant

00:39:37.208 --> 00:39:39.001
because it cannot be
relevant to someone

00:39:39.001 --> 00:39:40.878
in the middle class
or the upper class.

00:39:40.878 --> 00:39:42.838
And I think part of the reason
it continues to exist

00:39:42.838 --> 00:39:44.798
is because the middle class
or the upper class

00:39:44.798 --> 00:39:46.926
don't find it
relevant to them.

00:39:46.926 --> 00:39:54.106
[gentle music]

00:39:54.147 --> 00:39:56.858
- [Mother] When your income is
just so low

00:39:56.858 --> 00:40:00.320
that you're struggling just to
provide for your children--

00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:01.237
- Mm-hmm.

00:40:01.237 --> 00:40:04.115
- it's really hard to
get that extra up

00:40:04.115 --> 00:40:07.619
to buy the amount of diapers
and wipes you need.

00:40:07.619 --> 00:40:08.494
- Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:40:08.494 --> 00:40:10.455
You know, the-the issue with
poverty reporting sometimes

00:40:10.455 --> 00:40:12.415
is people just want to be like,

00:40:12.415 --> 00:40:14.250
you know, look at how hard
these people's lives are,

00:40:14.250 --> 00:40:15.418
but also like,

00:40:15.418 --> 00:40:19.255
look how hard they're
working to try to get,

00:40:19.255 --> 00:40:21.090
you know, to move ahead
and it's how,

00:40:21.090 --> 00:40:22.592
look how hard it is.

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[somber music]

00:40:35.356 --> 00:40:37.650
[Abby J] Any, any, any help
that we can get

00:40:37.650 --> 00:40:39.277
on the LGBTQ beat,

00:40:39.277 --> 00:40:41.070
but we can't have Kate
as the only person

00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:42.780
who writes about LGBTQ issues

00:40:42.780 --> 00:40:45.158
because they are myriad.

00:40:45.158 --> 00:40:46.951
Um, especially right now.

00:40:46.951 --> 00:40:50.455
Uh, practicing what we preach
when it comes to building out

00:40:50.455 --> 00:40:52.498
our LGBTQ coverage
is really important.

00:40:52.498 --> 00:40:54.459
You know, start to put
feelers out for that.

00:40:56.252 --> 00:40:58.755
[Kate] I'm doing a story
on the nation's first

00:40:58.755 --> 00:41:01.382
rural trans health clinic

00:41:01.382 --> 00:41:05.470
and also the first trans-led
health clinic.

00:41:05.470 --> 00:41:07.680
At a time when lots of states

00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:10.892
are trying to roll back
trans healthcare protections,

00:41:10.892 --> 00:41:14.145
this clinic is actually
leading the nation

00:41:14.145 --> 00:41:15.855
in trans healthcare.

00:41:15.855 --> 00:41:20.943
[upbeat music]

00:41:23.598 --> 00:41:25.809
- It's an intervention in itself
to be able to walk in

00:41:25.809 --> 00:41:27.852
and see yourself reflected
in your provider.

00:41:27.852 --> 00:41:29.854
- Like that's amazing.
- Yeah.

00:41:29.854 --> 00:41:32.690
[Dallas] I was at the
Mass General Hospital

00:41:32.690 --> 00:41:34.359
Trans Health Program
and a lot of times

00:41:34.359 --> 00:41:35.902
the parents would come in
the room and they'd say,

00:41:35.902 --> 00:41:38.363
"Oh, this trans thing is
such a phase."

00:41:38.363 --> 00:41:40.031
And, and they wouldn't know
that I was trans

00:41:40.031 --> 00:41:42.826
and I would have to choose,
do I out myself?

00:41:42.826 --> 00:41:45.620
- That is really rough.
[Dallas] Yeah, Yeah.

00:41:45.620 --> 00:41:46.913
- To do that over and
over again.

00:41:46.913 --> 00:41:49.374
[Dallas] But I-I-I wouldn't
trade it for the world.

00:41:49.374 --> 00:41:51.251
[Kate] I mean, it's deeply
important work.

00:41:51.251 --> 00:41:54.087
It's some of the only work
that's happening like this.

00:41:54.087 --> 00:41:55.755
[Dallas] Yes.

00:41:56.547 --> 00:41:59.884
- I mean, it sounds like already
you've tapped into a need

00:41:59.884 --> 00:42:03.054
that is bigger than this clinic.

00:42:03.054 --> 00:42:03.888
[Arin] I think so.

00:42:03.888 --> 00:42:08.017
The adult patients haven't seen
a doctor in like decades.

00:42:08.017 --> 00:42:10.686
[Kate] Why haven't they seen
a provider in 10 years?

00:42:10.686 --> 00:42:12.521
- A lot of trauma.

00:42:12.521 --> 00:42:14.231
- How many of us
have ever been seen

00:42:14.231 --> 00:42:17.026
by a trans healthcare provider?

00:42:17.026 --> 00:42:18.319
[Arin] Not me, that's for sure.

00:42:18.319 --> 00:42:19.945
- No, I haven't either.

00:42:19.945 --> 00:42:21.864
- I can't imagine
what that would be like.

00:42:21.864 --> 00:42:23.908
- And like 10-year-olds come in
and like the first thing

00:42:23.908 --> 00:42:25.910
they see is my flag
and they're like,

00:42:25.910 --> 00:42:29.163
"Oh my god, Mom,
look at the flag."

00:42:29.163 --> 00:42:30.623
[laughing]

00:42:30.648 --> 00:42:35.501
[upbeat music]

00:42:36.002 --> 00:42:37.462
Hampshire.

00:42:37.462 --> 00:42:39.297
Look how pretty you are.

00:42:39.297 --> 00:42:43.885
[birds chirping]

00:42:43.885 --> 00:42:45.887
When I was in undergrad,

00:42:45.887 --> 00:42:48.181
we have a self-designed
concentration, right?

00:42:48.181 --> 00:42:50.892
So you get to make up
what you wanna study.

00:42:50.892 --> 00:42:53.519
And mine was called
"Writing for Communities."

00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:55.063
And the idea was that,

00:42:55.063 --> 00:42:58.441
a journalist doesn't create
a piece, right?

00:42:58.441 --> 00:43:00.151
Like your name might be
on the byline,

00:43:00.151 --> 00:43:03.613
but really it's the product
of an entire community.

00:43:03.613 --> 00:43:05.990
So if I do the piece

00:43:05.990 --> 00:43:09.660
the way I'm supposed to,
it's not really mine.

00:43:09.660 --> 00:43:12.288
Like, everybody has
a role in that.

00:43:12.288 --> 00:43:14.540
Everybody who speaks to it,
everybody who lives it,

00:43:14.540 --> 00:43:17.168
it's like everybody's story.

00:43:17.168 --> 00:43:21.255
[dramatic music]

00:43:21.255 --> 00:43:23.174
[Emily] I wanna start this week
with Kate's really beautiful

00:43:23.174 --> 00:43:24.592
trans health story.

00:43:24.592 --> 00:43:26.219
We saw a ton of pickup
and interest.

00:43:26.219 --> 00:43:28.471
Uh, the story was shared
super widely,

00:43:28.471 --> 00:43:31.057
but also it was really shared
widely by people,

00:43:31.057 --> 00:43:33.643
anybody really, who wants
compassionate healthcare

00:43:33.643 --> 00:43:36.020
for themselves
and their families.

00:43:36.020 --> 00:43:38.606
[Alexandra] We had almost
16,000 interactions

00:43:38.606 --> 00:43:41.818
with this story on our
Facebook post alone.

00:43:41.818 --> 00:43:43.486
I don't know
if I've seen that many

00:43:43.486 --> 00:43:46.364
on one individual post
from us yet.

00:43:46.364 --> 00:43:49.826
[dramatic music]

00:43:49.826 --> 00:43:50.827
[tweet whistle]

00:43:50.852 --> 00:43:58.292
[dramatic music]

00:43:58.317 --> 00:44:00.160
[Emily] I wanna talk a little
bit about what our mission is

00:44:00.160 --> 00:44:01.453
and who we're for.

00:44:01.453 --> 00:44:03.831
Um, both of those things,
honestly,

00:44:03.831 --> 00:44:06.166
uh, really have evolved
for us in the last year

00:44:06.166 --> 00:44:07.793
and-and with your help,

00:44:07.793 --> 00:44:09.920
um, they're continuing
to evolve.

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.507
So, our new mission is
to empower those we serve,

00:44:13.507 --> 00:44:15.467
particularly women,
people of color,

00:44:15.467 --> 00:44:19.346
and anyone marginalized
based on their gender or race.

00:44:19.346 --> 00:44:21.765
I wanna, you know, specifically
obviously call out Kate,

00:44:21.765 --> 00:44:23.392
who has been
an extraordinary guidepost

00:44:23.392 --> 00:44:25.394
for me in these conversations.

00:44:26.603 --> 00:44:29.356
- I want a place that's
committing to

00:44:29.356 --> 00:44:33.819
constantly working, and so far,

00:44:33.819 --> 00:44:34.903
that's what I've seen

00:44:34.903 --> 00:44:38.490
and it's completely different
place than when I started.

00:44:38.517 --> 00:44:40.836
[dramatic music]

00:44:40.884 --> 00:44:43.094
[Anne] Emily Ramshaw is here
to tell us more about The 19th

00:44:43.094 --> 00:44:45.597
and she joins me now
from member Station KUT

00:44:45.597 --> 00:44:47.307
in Austin, Texas.

00:44:48.225 --> 00:44:51.269
[Kate] I think Emily saw
at the beginning

00:44:51.269 --> 00:44:55.774
every mistake as a
personal failing

00:44:55.774 --> 00:44:57.651
and took that really hard.

00:44:57.651 --> 00:44:59.736
And she has really led us

00:44:59.736 --> 00:45:02.072
and like been willing to hear

00:45:02.072 --> 00:45:04.115
some really hard feedback.

00:45:04.115 --> 00:45:06.284
- I think what was
difficult was that

00:45:06.284 --> 00:45:08.828
there were people on
our team who were hurt.

00:45:08.828 --> 00:45:10.622
You realize you didn't
have the answers

00:45:10.622 --> 00:45:11.831
that you thought you had.

00:45:11.831 --> 00:45:13.625
And, uh, your own,

00:45:13.625 --> 00:45:15.919
uh, privilege
and power structures

00:45:15.919 --> 00:45:17.921
and the communities
you were raised in

00:45:17.921 --> 00:45:19.798
and the ways that you've
lived your life

00:45:19.798 --> 00:45:21.424
are in some ways detriments

00:45:21.424 --> 00:45:23.552
to the work that
needs to be done.

00:45:23.586 --> 00:45:25.092
[dramatic music]

00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:26.327
[Female reporter]
In Texas today,

00:45:26.327 --> 00:45:27.745
abortion rights guaranteed

00:45:27.745 --> 00:45:29.497
by decades of precedent

00:45:29.497 --> 00:45:31.332
are effectively gone.

00:45:33.543 --> 00:45:35.461
I will say that there
are a lot of places

00:45:35.461 --> 00:45:38.673
that I think should have been
primed to cover this,

00:45:38.673 --> 00:45:41.009
uh, that really dropped
the ball.

00:45:41.009 --> 00:45:44.345
- Would this change things
for people accessing

00:45:44.345 --> 00:45:47.223
not just abortion services,
but everything else?

00:45:47.223 --> 00:45:49.225
Like, it's all kinds
of reproductive care

00:45:49.225 --> 00:45:50.893
that we're gonna lose?

00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.313
- I'm really curious about
what the corporate response

00:45:53.313 --> 00:45:54.397
to all of this is.

00:45:54.397 --> 00:45:56.566
'Cause I think a lot of places
have been real quiet.

00:45:56.566 --> 00:45:58.901
- We don't know when oral
arguments are going to be out

00:45:58.901 --> 00:46:02.405
on the Mississippi case,
uh, just yet, but,

00:46:02.405 --> 00:46:04.824
it's going to start
the ticking clock

00:46:04.824 --> 00:46:07.785
of what this could do to Roe.

00:46:09.498 --> 00:46:17.460
[sober music]

00:46:17.485 --> 00:46:19.154
[News reporter] Coming up here,

00:46:19.154 --> 00:46:21.156
what the press is getting
wrong in its coverage

00:46:21.156 --> 00:46:22.490
of the Texas abortion law.

00:46:22.490 --> 00:46:26.119
We're gonna go live with
Emily Ramshaw next.

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[Greg] It provides, uh,
at least six weeks, uh,

00:46:31.207 --> 00:46:35.879
for a person, uh, to be able to,
uh, get an abortion.

00:46:35.879 --> 00:46:37.797
- You can't even get a fucking
pregnancy test to tell you

00:46:37.797 --> 00:46:41.551
that you're fucking pregnant
until at least four weeks

00:46:41.551 --> 00:46:44.387
at best, if you are like
obsessively checking.

00:46:45.221 --> 00:46:48.433
That's not how pregnancy works,
Governor Abbott.

00:46:50.935 --> 00:46:55.023
- [chanting] Hey hey, ho ho,
Roe v Wade has got to go.

00:46:55.565 --> 00:46:57.275
[Protestors] Abortion pills
are in our hands

00:46:57.275 --> 00:46:58.902
and we won't stop.

00:46:59.444 --> 00:47:01.029
[Protestors] Abortion pills
are in our hands...

00:47:01.029 --> 00:47:02.989
[Candice] I'm a reporter
with The 19th.

00:47:02.989 --> 00:47:05.825
We cover gender... yeah.

00:47:06.702 --> 00:47:08.036
[News interviewee] There's
been a lot of questions

00:47:08.036 --> 00:47:10.706
about any kind of
miscarriage management.

00:47:10.706 --> 00:47:12.166
When is this an abortion?

00:47:12.166 --> 00:47:13.375
When is it a miscarriage?

00:47:13.375 --> 00:47:14.793
[Orion R] Thank you so much
for your time.

00:47:14.818 --> 00:47:17.562
They called the police on us
yesterday for capacity issues.

00:47:17.609 --> 00:47:20.362
They called the fire marshal
on us twice yesterday.

00:47:20.362 --> 00:47:23.198
Um, it doesn't stop, you know,
they don't take a win.

00:47:23.198 --> 00:47:24.491
They don't even accept
their win.

00:47:24.491 --> 00:47:26.243
It does not stop.

00:47:26.243 --> 00:47:29.955
[dramatic music]

00:47:29.955 --> 00:47:32.958
- With Texas' six-week
abortion ban becoming law,

00:47:32.958 --> 00:47:36.795
there may not be a better time
for The 19th to exist.

00:47:36.795 --> 00:47:44.803
[somber music]

00:47:51.017 --> 00:47:53.395
[Anchorman] The 19th has
been covering this nonstop.

00:47:53.395 --> 00:47:55.063
[Anchorwoman] Joining us now
to discuss is Jennifer Gerson,

00:47:55.063 --> 00:47:56.481
reporter at The 19th.

00:47:56.481 --> 00:47:58.358
[Anchorwoman 2] Errin Haines,
editor-at-large for The 19th.

00:47:58.358 --> 00:47:59.526
- Shefali, what does this mean

00:47:59.526 --> 00:48:02.154
as far as a precedent,
for-for other cases, right?

00:48:02.154 --> 00:48:04.448
And for ultimately
Roe v. Wade.

00:48:04.448 --> 00:48:06.116
- This is so far from an
isolated incident.

00:48:06.116 --> 00:48:08.577
It's really just the beginning
of what is one of the most

00:48:08.577 --> 00:48:11.413
important healthcare access
stories of our current moment.

00:48:11.413 --> 00:48:12.873
- The lesson or reminder here

00:48:12.873 --> 00:48:14.458
is that elections
have consequences.

00:48:14.458 --> 00:48:15.959
What we're seeing
happening in Texas

00:48:15.959 --> 00:48:18.044
is probably the biggest example

00:48:18.044 --> 00:48:21.131
of that fact post-2016,
despite the fact that women

00:48:21.131 --> 00:48:23.835
are half the population
and half the electorate.

00:48:24.110 --> 00:48:26.946
- When you saw the media
finally pick up on this story,

00:48:26.946 --> 00:48:28.239
um, the conversation was,

00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:29.574
you know, is this
actually going to be

00:48:29.574 --> 00:48:31.326
good for Biden in the long run

00:48:31.326 --> 00:48:33.202
or is this going to,
you know, cripple,

00:48:33.202 --> 00:48:35.330
uh, Republicans down the road?

00:48:35.330 --> 00:48:36.956
Instead of having conversations

00:48:36.956 --> 00:48:38.666
about how people
were being affected

00:48:38.666 --> 00:48:40.251
on the ground here in Texas

00:48:40.276 --> 00:48:43.279
and probably eventually in
many more southern states.

00:48:43.309 --> 00:48:53.319
[dramatic music]

00:49:00.296 --> 00:49:01.797
- All right, do we have
the full crew?

00:49:01.797 --> 00:49:03.549
Where are we, numerically?

00:49:03.549 --> 00:49:04.425
[ringtone chiming]

00:49:05.342 --> 00:49:06.468
[ringtone chiming]

00:49:06.468 --> 00:49:09.722
We're gonna start today's
meeting with awesome news,

00:49:09.722 --> 00:49:13.392
which is that we have
an editor-in-chief.

00:49:13.809 --> 00:49:16.395
Um, we have hired

00:49:16.395 --> 00:49:18.897
the amazing Julia Chan.

00:49:20.357 --> 00:49:22.568
It feels like there
is real momentum.

00:49:22.568 --> 00:49:24.820
We see traffic picking up,
increasing interest,

00:49:24.820 --> 00:49:26.905
journalism that's really,
really hitting its mark

00:49:26.905 --> 00:49:28.699
and its stride.

00:49:30.242 --> 00:49:31.410
- I'm Julia B. Chan.

00:49:31.410 --> 00:49:33.495
I am the editor-in-chief.

00:49:33.495 --> 00:49:36.790
I was previously a managing
editor at KQED in San Francisco,

00:49:36.790 --> 00:49:38.292
which is where I'm based.

00:49:38.292 --> 00:49:42.463
- I am Fatima Hassabi,
Chief Financial Officer.

00:49:42.463 --> 00:49:43.922
- I have to be super transparent

00:49:43.922 --> 00:49:45.215
that it wasn't, you know,

00:49:45.215 --> 00:49:46.842
the leadership coming
together and saying,

00:49:46.842 --> 00:49:49.803
"Oh, I think we should have a
Chief People Officer."

00:49:49.803 --> 00:49:51.972
It came from the
people themselves.

00:49:51.972 --> 00:49:54.224
Fifty-six percent of our staff

00:49:54.224 --> 00:49:56.977
are non-white
or multiracial overall.

00:49:56.977 --> 00:50:00.898
Thirteen percent of our folks
are folks with disabilities

00:50:00.898 --> 00:50:03.609
and ten percent of our staff

00:50:03.609 --> 00:50:06.278
now identify as non-binary.

00:50:11.485 --> 00:50:14.572
[Kate] This is unreal, like,

00:50:14.572 --> 00:50:19.285
if this actually goes
through as it is written,

00:50:19.285 --> 00:50:23.581
it's all bets off for any civil
rights law from here on out.

00:50:24.123 --> 00:50:25.916
Are you on deadline
on something on this?

00:50:30.546 --> 00:50:34.216
- We should tag team
on a story about

00:50:34.216 --> 00:50:36.427
what this will mean
for trans men.

00:50:40.890 --> 00:50:42.642
- I know, no one else
is gonna do that story.

00:50:42.642 --> 00:50:46.062
Um, but it, but it really
is like, that is,

00:50:46.062 --> 00:50:48.272
um, that will kill people.

00:50:48.272 --> 00:50:50.024
[Orion R] Thank you for
brainstorming on this.

00:50:50.024 --> 00:50:51.653
We can do this.
We're doing it.

00:50:51.942 --> 00:50:54.195
- Yeah, okay, take care
of yourself, please.

00:50:54.195 --> 00:50:55.112
I love you.

00:50:55.112 --> 00:50:56.572
[Orion R] You too. Love you too.

00:50:56.572 --> 00:50:58.240
- Okay, bye.

00:50:58.240 --> 00:50:59.200
[Orion R] Bye.

00:51:01.118 --> 00:51:03.120
[Kate] I'm working on a
story that looks at

00:51:03.120 --> 00:51:05.498
what this leaked opinion

00:51:05.498 --> 00:51:07.083
from the Supreme Court

00:51:07.083 --> 00:51:10.878
on the possible end of Roe

00:51:10.878 --> 00:51:14.048
could mean for other
civil rights law.

00:51:14.048 --> 00:51:18.219
Um, a couple of the
justices have...

00:51:18.219 --> 00:51:22.765
sort of, um, expressed an
interest in overturning...

00:51:23.557 --> 00:51:24.892
um, marriage equality

00:51:24.892 --> 00:51:27.144
or kicking it back
to the states.

00:51:28.020 --> 00:51:32.692
And, uh, yeah, that's, uh,

00:51:32.692 --> 00:51:34.985
that can be up for grabs also.

00:51:34.985 --> 00:51:37.279
Uh, we are in a moment
where trans rights

00:51:37.279 --> 00:51:39.031
are really under attack.

00:51:39.031 --> 00:51:42.993
Um, so the climate
there is, is ripe.

00:51:43.994 --> 00:51:48.332
[dramatic music]

00:51:48.332 --> 00:51:58.217
[protestors chanting]

00:51:58.217 --> 00:52:06.684
[protestors chanting]

00:52:09.520 --> 00:52:11.272
[Chabeli] You know, it must be
really difficult for someone

00:52:11.272 --> 00:52:12.898
who doesn't want this.

00:52:12.898 --> 00:52:14.650
It's really difficult
for me and I--

00:52:14.650 --> 00:52:16.777
we deeply, deeply
wanted this pregnancy.

00:52:16.777 --> 00:52:18.946
Um,

00:52:18.946 --> 00:52:20.197
so imagine somebody
who doesn't want to

00:52:20.197 --> 00:52:21.532
go through this at all,

00:52:21.532 --> 00:52:23.743
who this is not in their plan,
doesn't have any support,

00:52:23.743 --> 00:52:24.952
doesn't have, I mean,

00:52:24.952 --> 00:52:26.328
and so many things
can go wrong

00:52:26.328 --> 00:52:27.872
and there's so many
complications,

00:52:27.872 --> 00:52:29.457
and there's so many reasons

00:52:29.457 --> 00:52:32.251
why someone would not
wanna carry a pregnancy.

00:52:32.251 --> 00:52:33.419
It's just...

00:52:33.444 --> 00:52:37.811
[dramatic music]

00:52:37.870 --> 00:52:41.999
[Emily] This is in many ways
the story of my lifetime

00:52:41.999 --> 00:52:44.626
and I'm profoundly grateful
that I work

00:52:44.626 --> 00:52:47.171
in a newsroom that was
in many ways

00:52:47.171 --> 00:52:49.798
prepared for this moment,
um, that saw it coming,

00:52:49.798 --> 00:52:51.091
and that is doing probably

00:52:51.091 --> 00:52:54.303
among the most important
journalism in the country.

00:52:54.303 --> 00:52:58.765
I think we're doing that, um,
with empathy and with heart.

00:52:58.765 --> 00:53:00.184
Hi, baby.

00:53:02.269 --> 00:53:06.273
Um, and I'm also doing

00:53:06.273 --> 00:53:08.150
this work as

00:53:08.150 --> 00:53:10.861
the mother of a little girl

00:53:10.861 --> 00:53:13.363
growing up in the
state of Texas.

00:53:15.824 --> 00:53:17.743
As hard as this day was,
it feels,

00:53:17.743 --> 00:53:19.411
um, in some ways validating

00:53:19.411 --> 00:53:24.041
or like prescient that
this newsroom was necessary.

00:53:24.041 --> 00:53:26.960
[gentle music]

00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:31.173
[birds chirping]

00:53:31.173 --> 00:53:32.758
[Amanda] Okay, what's
this one? 2016?

00:53:32.758 --> 00:53:34.593
[Woman] 2316.

00:53:35.135 --> 00:53:37.471
[Emily] Well, I'll start
personally

00:53:37.471 --> 00:53:38.889
and we can just go from there.

00:53:38.889 --> 00:53:40.766
You know, three years ago

00:53:40.766 --> 00:53:43.101
we had basically $20,000
in the bank

00:53:43.101 --> 00:53:46.104
And today we've raised
over $35 million.

00:53:46.104 --> 00:53:48.190
We had five employees.

00:53:48.190 --> 00:53:49.900
Today we have over 50.

00:53:49.900 --> 00:53:52.694
One thing that I've been
exploring a lot with Amanda

00:53:52.694 --> 00:53:55.239
and with many of you is what
power sharing looks like

00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:58.367
in an organization and can
look like in an organization

00:53:58.367 --> 00:54:00.619
and how we can lead
more effectively

00:54:00.619 --> 00:54:02.663
when there are more voices

00:54:02.663 --> 00:54:04.790
and more equity, um,
across an organization.

00:54:04.790 --> 00:54:07.292
And that includes at the
very top of an organization.

00:54:07.292 --> 00:54:11.755
Um, so starting like
basically right now, uh,

00:54:11.755 --> 00:54:13.674
Amanda and I will be
full co-equals

00:54:13.674 --> 00:54:15.509
in the leadership structure.

00:54:16.051 --> 00:54:18.011
- This is what the work
looks like.

00:54:18.011 --> 00:54:20.305
I mean, we talk about
what we want The 19th

00:54:20.305 --> 00:54:24.643
to be kind of outward-facing,
but there is work internally

00:54:24.643 --> 00:54:25.769
that we have been doing

00:54:25.769 --> 00:54:28.772
and the fruits of that
are also happening.

00:54:28.772 --> 00:54:32.067
Like that is what
is going to be different.

00:54:32.067 --> 00:54:34.653
And that is the paradigm shift.

00:54:35.723 --> 00:54:38.608
If we're trying to disrupt
the news industry

00:54:38.608 --> 00:54:40.986
such that we're really
centering the communities

00:54:40.986 --> 00:54:42.112
that we're trying to serve,

00:54:42.112 --> 00:54:44.239
that also means seeding
the narrative to them.

00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:47.326
We don't wanna be replicating
yet another news organization

00:54:47.326 --> 00:54:50.871
where everything is in the
image and likeness of, um,

00:54:50.871 --> 00:54:53.248
you know, the CEO.

00:54:53.248 --> 00:54:55.042
Typically it's the
white male CEO.

00:54:55.042 --> 00:54:57.711
In this case, it would've
been the white female CEO.

00:54:58.231 --> 00:54:59.316
[Anchorwoman]
Lay out for me, Errin,

00:54:59.316 --> 00:55:01.443
what the President and Vice
President tried to do today.

00:55:01.443 --> 00:55:03.069
- Everybody's gonna have a
chance to be on that

00:55:03.069 --> 00:55:04.988
proverbial bridge tomorrow

00:55:04.988 --> 00:55:07.032
and make a decision about
which side of history,

00:55:07.032 --> 00:55:09.117
which side of our democracy,
they want to be on.

00:55:09.117 --> 00:55:13.413
[cheering]
[indistinct chatter]

00:55:13.413 --> 00:55:17.876
[gentle music]

00:55:17.876 --> 00:55:19.753
- This is the first time
the bulk of our team

00:55:19.753 --> 00:55:21.588
has ever met in person.

00:55:21.588 --> 00:55:29.512
[indistinct chatter]

00:55:29.512 --> 00:55:37.520
[dramatic music]

00:55:52.369 --> 00:55:55.413
[gasps]

00:55:56.831 --> 00:55:58.833
- And you probably like, you
probably rubbed your face in it.

00:55:58.833 --> 00:56:00.168
[Woman] Oh, my God!

00:56:00.168 --> 00:56:02.128
- I took a picture of it
then I was like, wait,

00:56:02.128 --> 00:56:04.005
I'll take it with me and
I'll show it to everybody.

00:56:04.881 --> 00:56:06.424
Thank you. I love it.

00:56:06.424 --> 00:56:07.550
I love it.

00:56:07.550 --> 00:56:11.513
- It has been two and a half
years to get to this place

00:56:11.513 --> 00:56:14.599
where we can actually
meet and greet

00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:16.643
and connect in real life.

00:56:18.395 --> 00:56:20.355
- I love you guys.
- Love you too.

00:56:20.355 --> 00:56:22.065
- I love you.
- Awkward sauce. Hello.

00:56:22.065 --> 00:56:23.733
- Awkward my ass.

00:56:23.733 --> 00:56:25.068
I love you guys.

00:56:25.068 --> 00:56:26.069
I'm not ashamed.

00:56:26.069 --> 00:56:27.070
I love this woman.

00:56:27.070 --> 00:56:28.280
- Oh, my God.
[laughs]

00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.073
I love this woman.
Believe it.

00:56:30.073 --> 00:56:31.992
- We love you, baby.

00:56:31.992 --> 00:56:33.034
[sighs]

00:56:33.034 --> 00:56:34.077
[Heather] So, what's next?

00:56:34.077 --> 00:56:35.996
Like, how are you gonna
keep this going?

00:56:35.996 --> 00:56:37.330
And especially in terms of...

00:56:37.330 --> 00:56:39.165
- Heather, we just wrapped this.

00:56:39.165 --> 00:56:40.917
- Who the hell knows, Heather.

00:56:40.917 --> 00:56:45.213
[energetic music]

00:56:59.868 --> 00:57:02.621
[Emily] Y'all, this is big,
big news.

00:57:02.621 --> 00:57:04.456
A couple of funders
of The 19th

00:57:04.456 --> 00:57:06.166
watched Errin Haines interview

00:57:06.166 --> 00:57:08.961
Nikole Hannah-Jones and said,
"We were so inspired.

00:57:08.961 --> 00:57:11.505
Would you all consider
letting us fund

00:57:11.505 --> 00:57:14.258
this massive 19th
fellowship program

00:57:14.258 --> 00:57:16.176
for graduates of historically
Black colleges

00:57:16.176 --> 00:57:17.469
and universities?"

00:57:17.469 --> 00:57:19.179
[cheering]

00:57:41.167 --> 00:57:42.794
- It really just gave me
a chance to let me know

00:57:42.794 --> 00:57:44.963
that I could
do this and that

00:57:44.963 --> 00:57:46.089
the things that
I want to do

00:57:46.089 --> 00:57:47.465
and the things that
I want to change,

00:57:47.465 --> 00:57:48.591
the things I want
to implement,

00:57:48.591 --> 00:57:50.844
are very much so
possible to do, um,

00:57:50.844 --> 00:57:51.970
long as you have
the right people

00:57:51.970 --> 00:57:53.680
around you
encouraging you.

00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:55.390
And that's this team.

00:57:55.390 --> 00:57:56.516
[laughs]