Defendant 5
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Young Australian filmmaker Heidi Lee Douglas goes to Tasmania to make a documentary about the destruction of the island’s ancient forests. As anti-logging protests escalate, logging giant Gunns Ltd reacts to public pressure by suing Heidi and 19 others for $6.4 million for allegedly conspiring to destroy the company’s business. When Heidi discovers Gunns wants to use her footage as evidence to support its claims, she faces a crisis of conscience. Heidi’s response is to turn the camera on herself to document her personal struggle as she goes into battle against a corporation out of control.
Citation
Main credits
Douglas, Heidi Lee (film director)
Douglas, Heidi Lee (screenwriter)
Douglas, Heidi Lee (on-screen participant)
Cross, Ruth (film producer)
Other credits
Cinematography, Heidi Lee Douglas, Roger Scholes; editing, Mark Middis, Lindi Harrison; music, Benjamin Walter Douglas, Heath Brown.
Distributor subjects
Freedom of speech,logging,environmental activism,social justice,AustraliaKeywords
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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- [Heidi] This is my story
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of how, as a young filmmaker,
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I became caught up in a nightmare
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that would rob years of my life.
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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With my video camera,
I was trying to protect
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some of the world's oldest forests,
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but I threatened the interests
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of a billion-dollar logging corporation.
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(crashing)
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That company, Gunns
Limited, was determined
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to shut down free speech.
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It sued me and 19 others
for millions of dollars.
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We became known as the "Gunns 20".
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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I was at risk of losing everything.
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It's only now that I
can go back to Tasmania
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to try and make sense of how I became
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Defendant 5.
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(somber instrumental music)
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This is me, Heidi.
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My parents were teachers
who loved traveling,
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so every school holidays,
they'd pack us kids up
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to go on their shoestring adventures.
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We camped around Australia,
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and backpacked throughout Asia.
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Travel opened my eyes to inequality.
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(gentle guitar music)
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As a teenager, I picked up a video camera,
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and making films became my passion.
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(gentle guitar music)
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(motor vehicle)
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I went to Tasmania when I was 23
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to make a film about the
island's ancient forests
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that were threatened by logging.
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(laughter)
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- [Voiceover] Have you seen Chasers Peak?
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- [Voiceover] Absolutely.
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- Well I would consider these the last
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of the giants of the northeast.
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- And you come here and you
still hold out some hope,
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but when you go to this in
the early stages of logging,
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with the machinery there,
that's the really heartbreaking
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thing of it.
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- [Voiceover] That's the logger's future
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that they're carting away.
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Their sons', their grandsons' jobs,
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they're carting them
down the road every day.
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(motor vehicle)
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- [Heidi] These were some of
the oldest trees on earth,
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and it broke my heart
to see them being logged
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and turned into wood chips,
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to be shipped to Japan to make paper.
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(gentle piano music)
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(motor vehicle)
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I documented the effects
the logging was having
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on the community.
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- If the wind blows, it
blows all the sawdust
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directly into Burnie,
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and all the residents in Burnie
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have been complaining for
years, and years, and years
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about not only breathing the dust in,
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but how ill they've been.
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- [Heidi] I wanted to use my camera
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to help protect the forests.
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I never imagined my films would get me
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and others into serious trouble.
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(motor vehicle)
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There was one company profiting most
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from the destruction of the forests.
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Gunns, the biggest woodchip company
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in the Southern Hemisphere.
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- Gunns was 80% of the
entire native forest sector
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in Tasmania, trashing five million tons,
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primarily, of all great forest.
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(motor vehicle)
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Every log truck on the road,
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every bit of polluted border cost,
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every scalped hill,
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every 1080 poison disaster,
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it all came back to Gunns.
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(chainsaw)
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(crash)
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(dramatic guitar music)
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- [Heidi] For three years,
I filmed the campaign
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to save Tasmania's forests.
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The protesters were taking more risks,
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and by filming them, so was I.
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- Stopping the Hampshire Woodchip Mill,
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which is the largest woodchip mill
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in the Southern Hemisphere.
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- [Voiceover] Good day, sir.
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How are you going this morning?
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- All right, don't touch any of that gear.
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- [Voiceover] You are trespassing,
and I'm requesting you
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to leave the site.
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- [Heidi] Protesters locked
themselves onto machinery
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to shut Gunns down.
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(exciting guitar music)
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As the campaign escalated,
I crossed a line
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from filmmaker to activist.
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- You're unable to want to leave.
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Gentlemen will escort you.
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OK? (mumbles)
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- [Heidi] Can I just get
your name and number,
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please, for our legal record?
- [Cop] Yes.
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- [Cop] Sergeant Tustin, 568.
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- [Heidi] My footage was
broadcast on the news.
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My little video camera defied
this giant corporation,
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exposing the truth and
showing how far people
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were willing to go to stand
up for what they believed in.
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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The Wilderness Society,
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a leading Australian
environmental organization,
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hired me to make films for them.
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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- So much of our campaign had become
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very, kind of, fact-based.
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We desperately needed something
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that would portray the
emotion of the campaign,
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and the material that you introduced
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in the form of that beautiful little film,
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suddenly actually made
the emotion very present.
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(helicopter)
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- [Heidi] Once the forests were cleared,
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poison was used to kill native wildlife.
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- The impact of those was quite profound.
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You'd go into a meeting
anywhere in the world,
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and I use them all over the world,
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and after seven minutes,
they'd be shocked and saying,
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"Wow, this is a big problem,
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"what do I have to do to help?"
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(protesters chanting)
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- [Heidi] Support for Tasmania's forests
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spread across Australia
and around the world.
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(protesters chanting)
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(exciting guitar music)
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But not everyone agreed.
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The fight to protect the
forest deeply divided Tasmania.
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(honking horn repeatedly)
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Forestry workers, many
of whom worked for Gunns,
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believed their futures were at stake.
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- The timber industry is the
most sustainable industry
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of any in this country.
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(cheering)
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- Taking forests, taking jobs!
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Taking forests, taking jobs!
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(jeering)
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- Will you go away?
(men mumbling)
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And just hurry on with your own thinking,
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and stop bullying.
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Stop being such a bully.
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- [Voiceover] Go and get
a job and leave us alone!
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(thunder and rainfall)
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- [Heidi] The conflict over logging
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was a major political
issue, and looking back now,
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I naively underestimated Gunns' reaction.
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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Just before Christmas, a
strange man in black appeared
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at my office with a shocking delivery.
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Myself and 19 others
were being sued by Gunns
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for six and a half millions dollars.
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They claimed we were in a conspiracy
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to destroy their company.
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We became known as the Gunns 20.
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- I will now ask to come
before us, the Gunns 20,
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I saw named in the Gunns' writ.
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Alexander Marr.
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(applause)
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(mumbles)
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Heidi Douglas.
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(cheers and applause)
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- I'll never forget that day,
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because my life was changing,
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and I had no control over it anymore,
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and that feeling of stepping up there
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in front of the community and suddenly,
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I was a player in this massive chess game
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between an almighty, powerful corporation
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and really, a bunch of community members
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who've been standing
up for their backyards.
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(ominous instrumental music)
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The Gunns 20 defendants
were a disparate group.
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Campaigners, elected politicians,
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students, doctors,
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a writer,
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and a dentist.
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We all cared about the forests,
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but Gunns claimed we were working together
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to deliberately undermine their business.
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- The way Gunns had framed their case,
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there was a charge that there
was this overall campaign
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against Gunns and that
everybody had conspired
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to harm their business, and the
conspiracy consisted largely
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of the campaign to protect
Tasmania's forests,
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so that anybody who was
involved in that campaign
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was potentially a co-conspirator.
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They'd come together to form this plan,
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which we might have said
was about saving the forest,
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but in the pleadings, it became this plan
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to injure Gunns' business,
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and that was a very scary
precedent for free speech
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because it criminalized
the practice of democracy.
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- If they could get away with this,
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that would build a new body
of case law in Australia
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which would allow similar companies
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to go after any civil society
action that got in their way.
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- [Heidi] Why do you think
I personally was sued?
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- The case was fundamentally
about silencing dissent
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and trying to weaken the campaign,
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what was one of the most
powerful new campaign tools
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that needed to disappear,
and they were your films.
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- [Heidi] Only four
days after we were sued,
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it became clear why Gunns
was out to silence us.
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The company announced plans
to build a giant pulp mill
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in the Tamar Valley.
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This would double Gunns'
woodchip production.
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Gunns claimed this was an industrial zone.
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Doesn't look very industrial.
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- No, it doesn't look very industrial,
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and that's why we feel so
insulted with all this.
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They just have to come here and see
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how beautiful it is to know that.
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- [Heidi] The mill was fiercely opposed
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by people who feared it
would pollute the region
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beyond repair.
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- This was a billion dollar-plus company.
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Their share price had gone up every year
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for the previous four years,
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so they just thought it
was gonna keep going up
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and all they had to do
was stomp on a few people,
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build the biggest pulp
mill in Tasmania and then,
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lock the entire Tasmanian
economy into making them rich.
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(dramatic piano music)
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- [Heidi] Before I was sued,
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I'd been planning to buy my first home.
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My lawyers advised me that
if I lost this court case,
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Gunns could take everything I owned,
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but I refused to give up my dreams,
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and went ahead and bought the flat anyway.
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It wasn't the joyful experience
I imagined it would be.
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My house.
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My refuge was under siege.
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(ominous instrumental music)
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The threat became very
real once the case began
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in the Supreme Court.
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- The whole thing was about
building a conspiracy theory
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and they needed as many connections
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between as many of the
defendants as possible.
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(suspenseful piano music)
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- [Heidi] The conspiracy
claim was ridiculous,
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especially as many of us
had never even met before,
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but now, our fate was bound together.
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- The potential for 20
defendants to turn on each other
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in that environment was just huge.
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That was one of the big
fears in the beginning.
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You know, you dump 20
people in a room and say,
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"You're all liable for what
everyone else has done."
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(suspenseful piano music)
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But, everybody had their
own individual struggles
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with the case.
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- [Heidi] I realized that I
was a link that connected us.
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I had filmed everyone in
this room, and in doing so,
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had put us all at risk.
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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- It was a clear issue for
where you said in the case
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that you were one of the links
between Wilderness Society
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and a number of the other defendants,
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where you'd been and filmed actions
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that weren't Wilderness Society actions
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and of someone who was
before you were working
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for the Wilderness Society
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or when you're only part-time
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and you're going out filming things
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'cause that's what you did.
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- [Voiceover] And your name?
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- [Heidi] I don't think I have
to give you my name, do I?
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- Sorry, (mumbles).
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You've got to give your own name.
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- [Heidi] That's fine.
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- All that was going to be
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where they were going to get the evidence
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for this conspiracy from,
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which has much broader ramifications
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for filmmakers and journalists generally
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because it puts them front and center
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in terms of people likely to be sued
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because then you can
drag all the documents
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and the information that
they've gathered into court.
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(lively guitar music)
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- [Heidi] I had no idea that the footage
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that I had been gathering
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was actually gonna be used as evidence.
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I was mortified that the
things I'd been doing
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to try and help the community
were now going to harm them,
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and my very right to film
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and to continue my work as a filmmaker
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was under question.
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I remember you calling me and asking me
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to stop filming any
independently organized protest,
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so why did you do that then?
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- At the time, I asked you
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to stop filming independent actions
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because this was, we were
clearly under surveillance,
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you in particular, clearly
under surveillance.
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The only way they could've
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even started making the allegations
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was to have people under surveillance.
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(suspenseful piano music)
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- I didn't know if I
was just being paranoid,
00:15:52.553 --> 00:15:55.893
but sometimes I could see
strange men following me
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and taking photos of me,
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especially if I was with other
defendants in public places,
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and I was scared.
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(suspenseful piano music)
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This was where I was
living at the time, alone,
00:16:10.291 --> 00:16:12.511
and then one day, I
found this camp directly
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across from my house, where it was obvious
00:16:14.772 --> 00:16:18.112
that somebody had been spending
a lot of time watching me,
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and I didn't feel safe to
live in my own home anymore.
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I filmed the only thing I was allowed to.
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Me.
00:16:28.105 --> 00:16:31.615
(suspenseful instrumental music)
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I just feel so...
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Disempowered now.
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I don't really know why.
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I just think that
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having somebody tell you
that you're so wrong.
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Sometimes I just want to die. (sobbing)
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(somber piano music)
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I remember calling you when
I was having a breakdown.
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You were the person I spoke
to, do you remember that?
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- Yes, I do.
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I do remember it quite well,
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and what you experienced,
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you were the first to experience it.
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That level of fearfulness,
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within two years, was
being widely experienced
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throughout the organization
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and throughout all of
the litigants as well.
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- [Heidi] Seven months
after we received the writ
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from Gunns, the judge
threw it out of court,
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saying the claims were vague,
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and didn't make a clear
case for a conspiracy.
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I've been fighting a fair bit
of depression about this case
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and I don't really wanna put
all my eggs in this basket
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and think, "Oh yeah, this is the end,"
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because I just can see this continuing on.
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Gunns is probably already
working on another writ.
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(suspenseful instrumental music)
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Sure enough, Gunns did come back to court,
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armed with a new writ three times the size
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of the first one.
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- Is this the stuff they
referred to right at the end?
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- [Voiceover] Yeah.
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- [Heidi] I knew it was
another work of fiction,
00:18:32.081 --> 00:18:34.242
but that wasn't the point.
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Gunns was winning by tying us up in court.
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- In the courts, Gunns had the firepower,
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the money, the silks,
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and they put aside millions
to fight this case,
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of shareholders' money, not theirs,
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but the individuals who are fighting
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to protect the forest
are personally exposed,
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while the board of Gunns, and its CEO,
00:18:56.098 --> 00:18:59.036
sits in splendored,
isolated protection knowing
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that even if they lose the case,
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not gonna cost them a penny.
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That's wrong.
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- Shag down after a hard day in the court.
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- [Heidi] So how did it
make you feel generally
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while the end of the day then?
00:19:09.923 --> 00:19:11.130
- Oh, just cranky.
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Such a waste of money and time. (laughs)
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Everybody's sitting there,
and thousands and thousands
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of dollars tied up in that courtroom.
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I don't care about winning, I can't win.
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I can, however, have bankrupt us.
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(dramatic guitar music)
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- [Heidi] I was angry and frustrated,
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and powerless to fight back.
00:19:34.898 --> 00:19:38.448
(dramatic instrumental music)
00:19:40.976 --> 00:19:44.024
But the attack on us brought
out many new supporters.
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One of them was Paul, a committed activist
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leading the pulp mill campaign.
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(Heidi mumbles)
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- Hello, Heidi.
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- [Heidi] Paul taught me to smile again.
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(Paul laughing)
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I can see.
00:19:58.705 --> 00:20:00.083
(Paul laughing)
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And we fell in love.
00:20:02.722 --> 00:20:05.619
(motor vehicle)
00:20:05.619 --> 00:20:06.968
(phone ringing)
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Hello, Heidi speaking.
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- [Voiceover] Version three
of the statement of claim
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has been chucked out.
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- Yay! (clapping)
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- [Voiceover] The judge
just went for the fact
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that they were basically claiming too much
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against too many people.
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- Kind of expected it to be thrown out
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because it's so ridiculously huge,
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this allegation against
all of the 20 of us, so,
00:20:29.697 --> 00:20:32.794
and what is it now, it's
been almost two years.
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- Well, they're gonna
different in order to
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resubmit it 'cause the
judge has made it plain,
00:20:37.748 --> 00:20:41.356
according to Greg, that if they
put in the same crap again,
00:20:41.356 --> 00:20:42.735
they're gonna cop it big time.
00:20:42.735 --> 00:20:45.785
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:20:47.415 --> 00:20:50.054
- [Heidi] I was trying
to get on with my life,
00:20:50.054 --> 00:20:52.022
but there was no stopping Gunns.
00:20:53.733 --> 00:20:56.552
Every time the company
was thrown out of court,
00:20:56.552 --> 00:20:59.293
it came back again and again.
00:20:59.293 --> 00:21:02.842
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:21:02.842 --> 00:21:06.201
Gunns wasn't giving up on
its pulp mill plans either.
00:21:06.201 --> 00:21:09.630
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:21:13.780 --> 00:21:16.520
While we continued to
fight Gunns in court,
00:21:16.520 --> 00:21:20.201
the Tasmanian government
bypassed planning procedures
00:21:20.201 --> 00:21:23.020
and fast-tracked the mill.
00:21:23.020 --> 00:21:26.080
- We couldn't sit by and let
the opportunities presented
00:21:26.080 --> 00:21:29.837
for Tasmania by the pulp mill
slip through our fingers.
00:21:29.837 --> 00:21:33.728
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:21:37.328 --> 00:21:40.276
- [Heidi] Gunns had staked
everything on the mill,
00:21:40.276 --> 00:21:44.235
and needed to borrow over two
billion dollars to build it.
00:21:44.235 --> 00:21:47.174
(suspenseful instrumental music)
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- Hello, would you like
some question and answer
00:21:48.934 --> 00:21:49.513
on the pulp mill?
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- [Heidi] My boyfriend,
Paul, led a campaign
00:21:51.352 --> 00:21:53.492
targeting banks and other investors
00:21:53.492 --> 00:21:56.172
to make them aware of
what Gunns were up to.
00:21:56.172 --> 00:21:59.543
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:22:02.832 --> 00:22:05.333
After months of lobbying and protest,
00:22:05.333 --> 00:22:06.980
the strategy worked.
00:22:08.890 --> 00:22:12.131
The ANZ Bank withdrew their
support for the pulp mill,
00:22:12.131 --> 00:22:15.538
quickly followed by the other
big three Australian banks.
00:22:17.848 --> 00:22:20.368
This was a major setback for Gunns.
00:22:20.368 --> 00:22:23.979
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:22:28.248 --> 00:22:30.389
Throughout the long
years of the court case
00:22:30.389 --> 00:22:34.087
and the controversy, the
forests continued to fall.
00:22:34.087 --> 00:22:37.336
(dramatic orchestral music)
00:22:47.302 --> 00:22:51.392
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:23:00.914 --> 00:23:03.434
Though the court case
still loomed over me,
00:23:03.434 --> 00:23:05.831
I decided to follow my heart.
00:23:05.831 --> 00:23:07.417
(mumbling)
00:23:07.417 --> 00:23:08.353
- [Voiceover] Yeah, mate?
00:23:08.353 --> 00:23:09.158
- [Paul] Yeah, good morning.
00:23:09.158 --> 00:23:10.373
Thanks for hanging out the other night.
00:23:10.373 --> 00:23:11.495
- Yeah, (mumbles).
00:23:11.495 --> 00:23:12.191
- [Voiceover] Cheers.
00:23:12.191 --> 00:23:13.076
- [Voiceover] Good luck of it.
00:23:13.076 --> 00:23:14.095
- [Paul] Thank you.
00:23:15.341 --> 00:23:18.410
(gentle instrumental music)
00:23:20.840 --> 00:23:22.560
- [Heidi] But I was tying my new husband
00:23:22.560 --> 00:23:26.460
into this legal nightmare, and together,
00:23:26.460 --> 00:23:28.410
we risked losing everything.
00:23:28.410 --> 00:23:32.360
(gentle instrumental music)
00:23:34.670 --> 00:23:38.840
(bright instrumental music)
00:23:40.925 --> 00:23:43.685
Back in court, the judge ordered mediation
00:23:43.685 --> 00:23:45.970
to see if we could avoid a lengthy trial.
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:49.315
We met with Gunns' lawyers.
00:23:49.315 --> 00:23:52.706
(bright instrumental music)
00:24:02.271 --> 00:24:04.927
The last month, we've been
going through mediation,
00:24:04.927 --> 00:24:09.861
and I've just had some
really exciting news
00:24:09.861 --> 00:24:12.194
that I'm finally out of the case.
00:24:12.194 --> 00:24:13.159
Yes!
00:24:16.525 --> 00:24:21.396
I have now regained my freedom of speech.
00:24:26.575 --> 00:24:30.412
After four years of proceedings
costing millions of dollars,
00:24:30.412 --> 00:24:33.407
Gunns had failed to
substantiate its claims,
00:24:33.407 --> 00:24:35.667
and agreed to drop its case against me
00:24:35.667 --> 00:24:37.747
and the Wilderness Society.
00:24:37.747 --> 00:24:40.863
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:24:40.863 --> 00:24:44.002
But other defendants still
faced going to trial.
00:24:44.002 --> 00:24:47.817
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:24:47.817 --> 00:24:52.247
However, I was finally free to
fight for the forests again.
00:24:53.212 --> 00:24:54.672
There was one European bank
00:24:54.672 --> 00:24:57.197
still considering financing Gunns' mill.
00:24:58.488 --> 00:25:02.162
I made a new film that revealed
what was really going on.
00:25:02.162 --> 00:25:07.162
- We had heard that there
was one Scandinavian bank
00:25:07.382 --> 00:25:12.078
who was considering seriously
investing in the project,
00:25:12.078 --> 00:25:14.693
and so we organized a meeting, and I said,
00:25:14.693 --> 00:25:16.752
"Look, before we start talking,
00:25:16.752 --> 00:25:19.493
"I just need to let you see
00:25:19.493 --> 00:25:22.349
"what you're joining your brand to."
00:25:22.349 --> 00:25:26.283
(suspenseful instrumental music)
00:25:26.283 --> 00:25:28.603
- [Heidi] The film showed
a napalm-like substance
00:25:28.603 --> 00:25:30.263
being dropped from helicopters
00:25:30.263 --> 00:25:32.954
to burn away what remained after logging.
00:25:39.023 --> 00:25:41.899
Within days of my film being
released on the Internet,
00:25:41.899 --> 00:25:43.595
thousands of the bank's customers
00:25:43.595 --> 00:25:46.169
threatened to close their accounts.
00:25:46.169 --> 00:25:48.669
The bank joined a long list of investors
00:25:48.669 --> 00:25:51.285
who refused to fund the mill.
00:25:51.285 --> 00:25:54.845
- They had this company doing
two things that appalled them.
00:25:54.845 --> 00:25:56.580
One was,
00:25:56.580 --> 00:25:58.400
you know, destroying
these beautiful forests
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:00.160
and the other was suing people
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.166
for standing up and trying to defend them.
00:26:06.715 --> 00:26:09.030
- [Heidi] With its share
price in free fall,
00:26:09.030 --> 00:26:12.337
Gunns desperately needed
to reform its reputation.
00:26:13.957 --> 00:26:16.306
The trial for the
remaining four defendants
00:26:16.306 --> 00:26:18.282
was just weeks away.
00:26:18.282 --> 00:26:21.872
(mournful instrumental music)
00:26:23.152 --> 00:26:26.917
(bright instrumental music)
00:26:29.668 --> 00:26:31.948
On the very eve of the trial,
00:26:31.948 --> 00:26:34.907
after five years of legal warfare,
00:26:34.907 --> 00:26:37.367
Gunns conceded defeat.
00:26:37.367 --> 00:26:40.384
(bright instrumental music)
00:26:40.384 --> 00:26:41.338
- Hi.
00:26:41.338 --> 00:26:42.662
Again, good job.
00:26:44.117 --> 00:26:44.935
- Hello!
00:26:46.657 --> 00:26:48.447
- Not bad, is it?
00:26:48.447 --> 00:26:50.447
- Gunns have totally capitulated
00:26:50.447 --> 00:26:53.527
and totally just had a resounding victory.
00:26:53.527 --> 00:26:57.449
(bright instrumental music)
00:26:57.449 --> 00:27:00.627
- [Heidi] All the remaining
Gunns 20 defendants
00:27:00.627 --> 00:27:02.703
were now free.
00:27:02.703 --> 00:27:03.459
(pops)
00:27:03.459 --> 00:27:05.367
(cheering)
00:27:07.055 --> 00:27:09.433
(laughter)
00:27:09.433 --> 00:27:10.591
- [Voiceover] He's ready
to drink the whole bottle.
00:27:10.591 --> 00:27:11.787
(Heidi laughs)
00:27:11.787 --> 00:27:14.447
- We had always hoped that Gunns
00:27:14.447 --> 00:27:16.467
would be part of the solution.
00:27:16.467 --> 00:27:19.267
Certainly, the purpose of the campaign
00:27:19.267 --> 00:27:22.825
was never to destroy Gunns,
it was to protect the forest.
00:27:22.825 --> 00:27:26.675
(somber instrumental music)
00:27:30.081 --> 00:27:32.401
- [Heidi] After dropping
the case against us,
00:27:32.401 --> 00:27:34.379
and under new management,
00:27:34.379 --> 00:27:37.307
Gunns announced it would
stop logging native forests.
00:27:42.337 --> 00:27:44.175
But it was too late.
00:27:44.175 --> 00:27:46.703
Abandoned by investors and the public,
00:27:47.733 --> 00:27:49.791
the company collapsed.
00:27:49.791 --> 00:27:53.141
(somber instrumental music)
00:27:55.111 --> 00:27:57.501
- What history says is if
the shareholders listened
00:27:57.501 --> 00:28:00.449
to us earlier, they'd be one
and a half billion dollars
00:28:00.449 --> 00:28:02.319
better off than they are today.
00:28:05.445 --> 00:28:08.655
(heavy machinery)
00:28:19.003 --> 00:28:22.113
(birds chirping)
00:28:24.281 --> 00:28:28.271
(dramatic piano music)
00:28:31.219 --> 00:28:33.099
- [Heidi] I know I paid
a really high price
00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:35.207
by getting involved in this story.
00:28:36.417 --> 00:28:38.697
I'd like to think that
I would do it all again,
00:28:38.697 --> 00:28:40.597
and be brave enough to be a witness
00:28:40.597 --> 00:28:44.017
and a filmmaker to an issue
that was dividing the community,
00:28:44.017 --> 00:28:47.297
because I now know that we
all had a responsibility
00:28:47.297 --> 00:28:49.305
to bring truth to light,
00:28:51.315 --> 00:28:54.631
but in the end, it was Gunns
who paid the ultimate price,
00:28:54.631 --> 00:28:56.971
and their investors, and
shareholders, and workers
00:28:56.971 --> 00:29:00.801
all lost out because Gunns
didn't listen to the community.
00:29:05.029 --> 00:29:08.719
(bright piano music)