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Hi, how are you doing?

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Fine.

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-Hi, good, thank you.
-Wonderful to see you, yeah.

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So, in the book,

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I talk a lot about...

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the annual mart *
that was happening here

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when he was growing up

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and one of the fascinations
was a ghost ride

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that he had actually created
in this neighborhood

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for the kids and I guess
they had to pay

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and then, when I came here,
I realized

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he just created
his own ghost ride,

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you know, in adult form,
and, of course,

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it\'s very, very,
prenatal.

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You go and you see
these tapestries

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of suffering fetuses
and demonic women

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and then, of course, tunnels.

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You go, sort of,
through tunnels.

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So, it\'s a very kind of
a three dimensional

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representation
of the prenatal journey.

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It looks like stylized flesh
and blood.

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Again, something very typical
for the prenatal experience.

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Freud said that a newborn
is a \"tabula rasa,\"

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a clean slate,
it was a whiteboard

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or something like this.

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It\'s nothing
that\'s of interest

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to psychologists
and psychiatrists

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that precedes birth,
including birth itself

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and we have now a lot
of materials showing

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that the fetus
is very sensitive

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already prenatally.

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So, you are supposed to believe

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that the fetus is sensitive
in the womb

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and then immediately after
the womb,

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like something that could be
20, 30, 50 hours

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of a life-threatening situation

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where the child might have died
in the birth canal

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and be resuscitated.

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The memory is so scary
that we just don\'t

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want to go there.

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This is why I call Hans Ruedi
a visionary

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because he portrays accurately
certain dark areas

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that we all have
that are related to the trauma

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of birth, which we
have never

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consciously processed.

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He never made sketches
before he made the painting.

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Um-hmm.

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The paintings just came
out of him

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through the arm
into the airbrush

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and it just happened.

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While I don\'t understand,

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the process comes from
the subconscious,

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so he was as surprised,
I believe,

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in seeing what came up
in the canvas, you know?

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Now, when you look
at this, for instance,

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a whole wall,
and you just start it

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in one corner of a roll
of empty paper

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and then you put one roll
next to the other

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and you roll the rolls up

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and the painting
just developed up and over.

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He became one with that machine,
you know?

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And it was able to...

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I thought
he was channeling something

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and I don\'t believe
in those things.

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This is coming
from someplace else

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and Giger is, you know,
just the guy

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that this other world

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is kind of introducing
themselves to us.

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We had a pop art poster store

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and one day, a man came in
with a tube

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and said he had done
some prints as well,

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if we possibly wanted
to sell them,

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that was Hand Ruedi.

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Late \'60s, beginning \'70s
in Zurich,

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a lot of things
were on the ground,

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but he was upcoming
and he soon after

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had his first exhibitions.

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We did the posters,
the posters

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were in New York shop windows.

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At that time,
posters were a very immediate

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media to get your work
out to a larger public

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rather than waiting for them
to come to a gallery.

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It was a status symbol,
I think,

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if you had a poster.

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It was also an expression
of your attitude

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towards life,
towards your family,

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towards your friend,
whatever.

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It was an expression
of oneself, in many ways.

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(cat meows)

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Shh.

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That\'s how it all started.

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From that one short wizard

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with the man dressed in black
with a tube under his arm.

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Hello.

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(speaking foreign language)

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(speaking foreign language)

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♪

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(speaking foreign language)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(explosion)

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Lift off.

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(muffled speaking)

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(breathing through gas mask)

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♪

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Hansruedi his art
has been called

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biomechanoid.

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It\'s mixing machines
and human anatomy.

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It\'s very masterful
morphing.

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So, you know,
we are in this century

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where some of the leading
archetypes would be like, uh,

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the sorcerers apprentice,
you know,

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are playing with
these things.

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Now genetic engineering
where we don\'t have a clue

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what it\'s gonna do.

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For some reason
he decided to, you know,

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become the, uh,

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the artistic reporter
about what the--

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what the darkness
in us is.

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(airbrush blowing)

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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♪

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(echo of conversation)

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(speaking German)

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Thing about all
these films,

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all monster films or whatever
you\'d like to call it,

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is that the danger is
how on earth

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are you going to
finally doit?

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Who was gonna actually
create it?

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And I was shown
the book, Necro...

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--nomicon.

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Necronomicon, okay,
in Los Angeles,

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in fact, by O\'Bannon
who brought it in,

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and I nearly fell
off the desk.

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Said, \"That\'s it.\"

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Giger has an extra
quality of...

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I think one of the most
frightening things of all,

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a quality of reality, um,

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combined with a sort of,
his own fantasy.

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And I think that\'s
what makes it stronger,

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is the reality
not the fantasy.

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(speaking German)

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(air pump)

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(chains rattling)

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Ahh!

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♪

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(airbrush blowing)

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♪

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He told me,
\"I don\'t paint

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these kinds of images
because I indulge in it,

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but because
they scare me so much.

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When I put it on canvas
I have some sense

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of command or getting
control over it.\"

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And the other thing
that Hansruedi told me

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is, \"It\'s healing for me.\"

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♪

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(speaking German)

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♪

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ethereal voice)
Die.

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Die.

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(speaking German)

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♪

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♪ Your name is called ♪

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♪ Inseminate

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the bornless one ♪

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♪ Invisible Gods

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on planes apart ♪

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♪ I thee invoke ♪

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♪ Oh western star ♪

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♪ This is the ground

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you walked upon ♪

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♪ The soil beneath ♪

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Meow meow.

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(wind blowing)

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(creaking steps)

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♪

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--Schreck is all right?

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We have left him up
at that castle.

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He\'s not in danger.

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He\'s a fine actor,
but all this preparation,

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it\'s very strange.

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(cat hops to floor)

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Oh, really?

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Like an old man pees.

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Sometimes
all at once,

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sometimes
drop by drop.

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(laughs)

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I told you...

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Look, Nosferatu, blood!

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Blood!

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(laughing)

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No, don\'t look up.

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Concentrate on your papers.

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Not that you actually
care about the details

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of the contract.

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(train rushes by)

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(street noises)

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(motorcycle putters off)

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(applause)

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Someone lead the way.

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(cars rushing by)

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(crow caws)

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(door creaks)

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(rushing water)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(rain splashing)

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(speaking German)

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(yelping)

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(speaking German)

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(laughing)

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(wind howling)

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(speaking German)

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(car engine whirring)

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(speaking German)

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(piano playing)

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(speaking German)

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(applause)

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(chatter)

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(cameras clicking)

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Thank you very much.

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In \"Behemoth,\"
the cat,

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what\'s its name?

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Muüggi.

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-Muüggi?
-Muüggi.

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M-u-g-g-i,

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Muüggi.

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(speaking German)

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Thank you.

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Oh, la, la, bravo!

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Tres bien.

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(chatter)

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-Hello.
-Hello.

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♪

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(speaking German)

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(footsteps)

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♪

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(speaking German)

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♪

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(TV chatter)

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(floor creaking)

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(speaking German)

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(laughing)

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(speaking German)

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♪