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Earth Community, Ep. 07 - Brazil, Piracanga
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Piracanga is an intentional community and spiritual retreat center nestled between the sea and river on the Maraú Peninsula, Bahia. Inspired by a vision, its founder embarked on a journey that led to Itacaré, a small town on the Cocoa Coast. Over time, like-minded individuals have settled on the sandy land, each contributing to the community—whether through educating children, restoring native bee populations, or fostering environmental regeneration.
As the community flourishes, children have become its heart, shaping Piracanga into both an ecovillage and a Center for Human Development. It now boasts its own school and university, alongside a Holistic Center that serves as a hub for daily life. The community features a park, church, market, hostel, restaurant, and administrative office, creating a self-sustaining environment. Regular visitors arrive for courses, retreats, and volunteer programs, drawn by Piracanga’s unique blend of spirituality, education, and ecological harmony.
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The world scenario
isn’t good.
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I personally went through
streaks of despair,
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about humanity,
the times, the impacts.
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I don\'t know, I feel
we’ve already reached the deadline,
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the moment when
we have to take this turn.
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I believe this is one of the poles
that may be inspiring that transformation.
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The choice to live in community,
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a community that proposes
to regenerate the environment,
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it’s a choice
to serve the planet,
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but also, it’s for us.
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Why not dream?
What dreams do people have?
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What do we want?
And how much are we doing to make it happen?
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For me, it’s…
Let\'s make our dreams reality!
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Living in community was a choice
to establish deeper human relationships,
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to have the possibility
to be together, and stay together,
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in building a life.
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Of all the stories I\'ve heard,
this place
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has long been considered
a very sacred, very special place.
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Many families from nearby towns
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came here to camp,
to spend time.
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About 14 or 15 years ago,
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the history of this place
began to change.
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Bye bye! Tomorrow we\'re
going on a trip...
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until the end of the month.
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It started as a couple\'s
project for a better life.
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It was a European couple.
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They came here
with the intention of creating a community,
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a space where
there would be no suffering,
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or at least less suffering.
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They arrived on this beach,
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they had to jump out of the boat
and come swimming,
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get past the waves and arrive,
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and cross the river,
when…
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They stood up, they were crossing the river,
and they saw the image,
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they remembered a dream
one of them had many years ago,
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about a place
that was shown to them by dolphins,
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that took them
to the bottom of the sea,
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and showed them a place
where people could live in harmony,
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in peace,
in community,
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and live happily.
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From that moment on,
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they felt that was the right place
to create a reality,
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to be able to live many years,
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and to be able
to live together in harmony.
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The first thing I did when I arrived was
to find out what needed to be done.
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There was no community
when I got here.
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My first natural impulse was:
where can I help?
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And I began to help
cleaning children’s clothes
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with a wheelbarrow,
moving from one place to another,
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to a washing machine, so that
children would have clean clothes.
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Then more people arrived,
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from different parts of the world,
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and we started
to allow ourselves to create.
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Create a reality in which we could welcome
other people who arrived later.
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We started with ourselves,
took care of ourselves,
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and when we achieved that,
we started to open
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so that more people
could come,
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we began to open ourselves
to the world.
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We began to have a vision,
a depth,
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giving meaning to what we were doing.
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We understood that
for it to work on a macro scale,
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we had to give it our all.
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Give all of ourselves,
collaborate as a whole,
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here we had to give it our all
in order to build a firm base to grow.
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We created,
and it expanded.
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Small projects emerged
from within other projects,
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and grew.
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It was very organic,
very alive.
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We were always
a community of 30 people
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doing the possible and the impossible
to do things differently.
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When I got here, my background
was mostly in ecological planning.
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The ecology of this place
is very, very sensitive.
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When you start to build
the first layer of soil,
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you begin exponential,
incredible regeneration,
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because when you create
the first layer,
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life itself
starts to create life.
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The key point
of the territory here
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was sanitation.
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People started coming here
like in 2004, 2005.
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We transformed that,
into this.
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Can you imagine?
All the vegetation that grows here,
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was planted by people.
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This place you see here,
that forest,
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when I arrived, it was the place
where tractors turned around.
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This was a plot of sand,
like the one on the beach.
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None of that vegetation was here.
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Only a few coconut trees,
some older cashew trees.
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But for me, the biggest challenge
is always the same:
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it’s people.
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It’s us,
and the relationships we have.
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I wanted to start by telling you
about the dry toilet system.
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It\'s shit with sawdust.
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Smell.
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What does it smell like?
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From human relations
comes the economy,
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from human relations
comes ecology.
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Hippies will crap in a chic bathroom
and in a hippie bathroom.
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Chic people will only crap
in chic bathrooms,
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so let\'s build chic bathrooms
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so that everyone’s happy,
everyone can crap in peace.
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My name is Marcia, I’ve lived
here in Piracanga for three years,
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but I’ve been on a search
for community living,
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in intentional communities and ecovillages
for more than 10 years.
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I’ve had very deep experiences
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in this outlook of planetary regeneration,
to create a different human culture on Earth,
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to learn to communicate
with the beings of nature
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and create different ways of relating.
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The Instituto Inkiri,
which is the organization
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that made most of these plantations possible,
and took care of this environment,
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was interested in broadening
and deepening
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that regeneration of the ecosystem.
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And then the idea arose
of breeding native bees,
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to recompose this territory.
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Because we know that bees,
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despite being considered one of the
most important living beings on the planet,
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are highly endangered living beings.
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I ask for permission to...
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...to open this,
and see how you are.
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I like to provide respect and trust
in the contact, so they don\'t get scared,
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and eventually we get to
establish that relationship.
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There are dozens of bees,
even hundreds, of native bees,
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and in this territory,
we observe...
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at least 5 to 7 species
of social native bees;
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bees that are socially organized.
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They live in these swarms,
in these hives.
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Here, in the center of this universe,
of this city that is the hive,
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we have a nest
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where the new bees
will emerge from each cell…
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Where the queen laid her eggs,
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where many bees worked,
bringing food, depositing it there,
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and they allow those larvae,
those eggs to develop
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until they become adults
and venture out.
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For me,
when I work with bees,
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they’re above all a source
of inspiration, of social organization.
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A living example
where a group of beings
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organizes and transforms itself
into another organism.
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When we’re in a ritual,
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we’re honoring
our ancestry,
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and we’re honoring the diversity
that exists in the world.
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Inside a circular dance wheel
everyone’s the same,
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no one’s more important
than the other.
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When everyone’s there
in the same position,
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there, we’re one, a single body,
all holding hands,
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all looking at each other,
we become a single body.
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In a certain way it’s a prayer,
we say that a prayer is formed,
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that we’re forming with our bodies,
a mandala,
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a living mandala that moves,
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and this is a message
that we’re sending to the world.
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My name is Maira,
I\'m a biologist.
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I was very excited
to work with permaculture,
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to live in community,
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as a way for us to change
our relationship with nature.
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When we get together
to take care of a place,
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to anchor
and take root in a place.
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Later, we and others
created the Escola da Natureza,
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a project that allowed the development
of many environmental technologies
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here in Piracanga.
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This is our waste collection center,
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where we receive all the recyclable
or reusable waste from the community.
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Some materials are reused
right here in the community,
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juice packaging...
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Here we use reusable packaging
for everything.
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And whoever produces anything
comes here to pick up the packaging they need,
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and whoever uses them,
discards it here.
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For me, as I was already working
with environmental education,
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with permaculture,
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I felt it was a very fertile field,
very beautiful.
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That\'s our composting yard,
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here we make compost piles
for organic waste
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from the community.
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So all the fruit peels,
the dry leaves…
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We’re stacking all that,
and the final product is a very rich fertilizer.
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That\'s one of the areas
of our nursery,
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of our forest nursery,
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here we take care of the plants
when they’re first planted,
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and when they’re ready,
they’re transplanted to the ground.
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The last ten years of my life,
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I’ve dedicated myself to this land,
this space, in community,
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with the support of many people
who passed through here
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and who contributed
for this project to flourish.
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Motherhood only makes sense to me
if it’s in community.
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And I can\'t imagine
a different life.
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Since Caioá came into the world,
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the whole community has embraced him.
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The whole community...
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Everyone in Piracanga loves Caioá.
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The families began to come
when the school was created.
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It arose from the movement
of some families who wanted to live here,
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and from the beginning
it was built by families.
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That’s why Piracanga,
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from the beginning,
has been a space inspired by children.
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And it will be the word
\"Encontrou\"
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It starts with an \"E\"...
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This word here.
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This one, Luquinhas.
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Today we see school much more
as a space for coexistence.
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It’s the first place where
human beings who arrive here
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begin to socialize together,
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they begin to have a notion
of democracy, of collectivity.
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It counteracts that excess of individuality
that we create,
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and it’s very important
to perceive others,
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and mainly to perceive
our planet as our home.
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And I believe that this is one of the great
characteristics of the Escola Inkiri,
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is that respect for ourselves,
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for others
with whom we interact,
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and for the planet.
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My life has been very connected
to education.
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My mom is an educator,
who in the 80s
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opened a school in Porto Alegre
called Amigos do Verde.
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And I had the luck to grow in that school
until I was 10 years old.
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When I grew up
and became an adult,
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I became very interested
in intentional communities.
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I started to find out
about some communities,
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I took a permaculture course,
parallel to the universities I was attending,
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up until a certain moment of my life
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I was in that school,
to which I went back to work,
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the Amigos do Verde school,
I was director there for eight years.
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Very happy with my job,
but very unhappy in my personal life.
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I no longer wanted
to live in the city.
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I felt I wasn’t closing cycles,
I was in transit,
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the information overload in the city
wasn’t good for me,
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on many levels.
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I already knew Piracanga,
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and I came here to take a course
at the Escola da Natureza.
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But when I came here
and started the permaculture course,
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I saw the school,
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and when I found out about the process
it was going through,
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its transformation
into a free school…
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It was beginning to construct
a new pedagogy.
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And I really loved that.
I really related to it.
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I started doing volunteer work
here at the school,
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which lasted a few months
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and after that
I never left.
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Since I’ve lived here,
by the sea,
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I no longer imagine
living far from the beach.
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That bird is so beautiful.
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The way it sings...
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...is very different.
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Very different.
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I wake up very early,
I like to wake up early,
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sometimes before the sun rises,
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I prepare my yerba-mate
and I go surfing.
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Nowadays, much of my routine
and much of my life,
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is guided by the tides
and by the moon.
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I perceive that Great Mother
who embraces us,
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who gives this planet
a certain balance,
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that’s very clear to me now.
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Hearing the sea,
perceiving the tides…
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That connects me with myself.
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Many times,
more than surfing the waves,
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I just like to come into contact
with this salty water.
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That centers me and gives me
a deep connection with myself,
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and mainly,
the will to live.
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As long as we\'re here,
taking care of this place,
00:21:59.818 --> 00:22:01.653
we’ll continue to have pure water,
00:22:01.737 --> 00:22:06.491
we’ll continue to have living nature,
the pure air we breathe.
00:22:06.575 --> 00:22:10.245
In addition to taking care
of this territory
00:22:10.329 --> 00:22:13.832
and inspiring
the surrounding communities,
00:22:13.915 --> 00:22:16.293
we finally ended up
being an inspiration
00:22:16.335 --> 00:22:19.296
to people who want to create
new communities,
00:22:19.379 --> 00:22:23.759
start new projects
and movements of this kind.
00:22:25.385 --> 00:22:31.266
To build a web, an integrated network
of different human experiences
00:22:31.892 --> 00:22:35.062
that set out
to regenerate existence…
00:22:35.729 --> 00:22:39.483
I feel that this is
what the planet needs now.
00:22:41.902 --> 00:22:47.783
So that what’s left for those to come
is a memory of something beautiful,
00:22:48.158 --> 00:22:51.244
well done,
that inspires future generations.
00:22:51.453 --> 00:22:57.417
I hope this ecovillage
can continue to grow
00:22:57.751 --> 00:23:03.757
with these fundamental characteristics
of preservation, earth regeneration,
00:23:03.840 --> 00:23:08.136
of bringing tools that inspire
more and more people.
00:23:14.226 --> 00:23:16.561
There’s much work to be done,
00:23:16.686 --> 00:23:19.523
because doing something different
requires a lot of work.
00:23:19.689 --> 00:23:23.068
And there’s a lot of work to do,
wherever it is.
00:23:24.653 --> 00:23:29.032
Ecovillages, intentional communities,
traditional communities
00:23:29.157 --> 00:23:33.161
are examples of living experiences
00:23:33.703 --> 00:23:38.417
of how we as humans
can choose more conscious paths
00:23:38.500 --> 00:23:40.919
for our existence
here on earth;
00:23:41.878 --> 00:23:46.883
ways of life
that depend less on consumption
00:23:47.008 --> 00:23:50.971
and that are nourished more
by living together.
00:23:55.475 --> 00:23:57.811
The difference starts with you.
00:23:57.894 --> 00:24:01.606
You have to be the flame
the fire,
00:24:02.065 --> 00:24:06.611
to spark others
who also want to take part.
00:24:06.862 --> 00:24:11.241
Be the center
of what you want to do differently.
Distributor: Pragda Films
Length: 25 minutes
Date: 2023
Genre: Expository
Language: Spanish; Portuguese
Grade: Middle School, High School, College, Adult
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Closed Captioning: Available
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