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(mellow music)

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(soft music)

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- [Rebecca] Morning.

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Hi, how\'s everything?

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Good morning, Grandmother.

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Are we ready to get ready?

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Okay.

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Good morning, Boopsie.

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(speaking foreign language)

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My baby.

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Henry, hurry, hurry, hurry.

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Give me one second.

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He\'ll be right here.

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- [Nasha] Love you.

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- Love you.

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- [Nasha] See you later.

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- Shinnecock Nation, it\'s a small tribe.

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On the reservation, 500 people or so

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and we\'re surrounded by the wealthy folks

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who are living on our land.

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As native people, you
feel a responsibility

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to your ancestral territory,

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to protect the land as much as we can.

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It\'s nearly impossible in this day and age

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but we\'re still gonna do the best we can.

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(quiet upbeat music)

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- [Group] We pledge allegiance to the Flag

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of the United States of America

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and to the Republic--

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- [Man] We\'re a maritime community.

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People are coming here with
large amounts of money.

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The conflict now is over development.

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- More often than not, I hardly recognize

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this place I call home.

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- In the last 10 years we\'ve
lost right-of-ways to the bay.

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- This property was
transferred from the town

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without the town board
understanding this agreement.

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- You watch what happens
with all this preserve land.

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They\'re gonna be encroaching on it.

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They\'re gonna be putting
driveways through it.

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- [Man] That guy down
there changed that place

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into his Hamptons

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and you took our Hamptons.

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- But I don\'t feel so alone today.

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I feel what the farmers are feeling.

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I feel what the people are feeling.

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And we\'re gonna do something about this.

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Oh my gosh, it\'s so beautiful today.

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A little bluejay.

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No, that\'s a woodpecker.

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What is that?

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These are mostly clamshells.

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We are at Conscience Point.

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This is where our Shinnecock ancestors

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met the first Europeans, pilgrims.

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Some people say, you know,

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well my family\'s been here for
four, five, six generations.

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Well, we\'re been here
400 generations plus.

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As far as land was,

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it was just a total
different way of thinking.

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Like to own your land,
we\'re just caretakers.

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I love this spot because it is beautiful

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and it is preserved land over there

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but it\'s a good place to
commune with the ancestors

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and let them know how much we honor

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and respect and care for them

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and try to be good people

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and think about them.

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For at least the last century

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the Hamptons has been
a spot for the wealthy

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to get away from the hustle and bustle.

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They can drive their limousines

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right past this indigenous community

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and not even know that we exist.

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- We\'re a small community.

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We\'re finite in this greater
community of the Hamptons.

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The land base that we have here

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is approximately 1,200 acres.

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This is a small piece of
our original territory.

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Our original territory extended

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from the East Hampton town line

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all the way to the Brookhaven town line.

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One of the first things
that we did as a people

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in 1640 when the first settlers arrived,

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is we gave them eight
square miles of land to use

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which is now current
day Southampton Village

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and we\'ve paid the
price for it ever since.

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Here we sit, you know,

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in the middle of lifestyles
of the rich and famous

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and yet 60% of our people in our community

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are below the poverty level.

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That\'s a problem.

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- You know Modell\'s Shopping stores?

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That\'s Modell\'s house.

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It\'s funny the people that live out here.

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You see this house right here,

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house on an acre?

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That\'s eight million dollars right there.

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That huge house back there

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I sold to a 29 year old 10 years ago

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for 15 million dollars.

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The owner of Coach just built that house.

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He paid 25 million dollars
for the land right there.

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And a farmer sold it that
owned it for hundreds of years.

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It\'s a crazy place.

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Almost everybody who\'s successful

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financially in New York,
they wanna be here.

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So when you have a lot of people chasing

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not that much property
it just keeps going up.

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But there\'s something about it out here

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that they all wanna come.

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I just happened to enter
real estate in 1996

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and I call it the best
20 years in real estate

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in 10,000 years.

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We were selling 18 million
dollar houses in \'06 and \'07

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to hedge fund managers
like they were candy.

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Being a finance guy, I like
to turn things quickly.

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I call it the velocity of money.

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The big complaint out
here is overdevelopment

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and I agree with them.

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But people are gonna continue

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to want homes and buy homes.

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Doesn\'t the next generation deserve

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a house, pool, and tennis in the Hamptons?

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I mean, that\'s how I see it.

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(waves crashing)

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- This is a very unique area.

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Besides having a population
of close to 60,000,

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that\'s a year round population.

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In the summer months it quadruples

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and it\'s very culturally diverse

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and economically diverse.

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We have some of the wealthiest
people on the planet,

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heads of multinational corporations.

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The one percent of the one percenters.

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Then we also have very modest people

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who work two or three jobs to deal with

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the high cost of living here.

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So the disparity between rich and poor

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is probably no greater anywhere else

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than right here in the
town of Southampton.

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And of course that
makes things complicated

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because you have to serve
and protect all people.

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(birds squawking)

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(engine revving)

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(soft music)

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- My family\'s been out here
since the early 1700\'s.

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I grew up in a farming-fishing community.

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You know, it\'s still a gorgeous place,

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don\'t get me wrong,

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but it\'s pretty much been bought up.

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20 years ago that would\'ve
been stuffed with scallops

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for weeks.

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This is called sputnik grass.

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It\'s kind of the only thing

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that every scallop larvae
has to hide in these days.

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It\'s heavy.

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With all the toxins that
are going into the bays,

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it makes it really difficult.

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You know, (laughs) God knows
what goes into these bays.

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In the morning you see
them spray, vector spray,

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for mosquito control.

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You\'re like, ugh.

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Juvenile fish are eating mosquito larvae.

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You know, that\'s how
the whole cycle works.

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A lot of the locals back in the day

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didn\'t really wanna build on the water.

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That\'s why land next to
the water was so cheap

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because there was too many mosquitoes.

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You\'d get eaten alive.

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You know, and now as everything is kinda

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changing ecologically
there\'s no mosquitoes.

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Well that\'s why there\'s no juvenile fish

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kind of making their way back up

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into the marshes and stuff like that.

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The Shinnecocks are the only ones

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that have respectively
kept it undeveloped.

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You know, if you look at the bay

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around where the reservation
is, it\'s gorgeous

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and then everywhere else
has been built up on.

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So, I mean, for me it has basically

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destroyed my livelihood,
the development on the bay.

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- All right, see you guys later.

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We\'re gonna go over to where the fish

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usually show up in the early season.

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What I do catch, I eat myself.

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I\'ll also give it to people
for free, free of charge

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up here on the reservation.

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I do the same thing with hunting.

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You know, I shoot a couple deer,

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I shoot a few ducks,

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I give them away to people
here on the reservation.

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People like it.

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My dad taught me that.

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One of our traditional ways

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at the end of a prayer

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or at the end of a ceremony,

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we say (speaking foreign language)

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which means all of my relations.

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And when you\'re saying all of my relations

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you\'re acknowledging the connection,

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not just between your immediate family,

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but you\'re acknowledging the connection

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you have to everything, all of creation,

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and that what you do with one thing,

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it affects the other thing.

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There\'s actually different kind of fish

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than there were when I was a kid.

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I was out there right in front

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of Calvin Klein\'s house, actually,

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and I pulled up a sand shark

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and the boat right next to me

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pulled up a sand shark too and he was like

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\"I\'ve never seen a sand
shark in Heady Creek!\"

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I was like, \"Me either!\"

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(laughs)

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Our reservation\'s a peninsula

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and on the east side is Heady Creek

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and half of Heady Creek, and just in 2015,

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got shut down for shellfish

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and that\'s just because of runoff

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from all the houses, the golf
course, things like that.

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For the most part what you see

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in all of the Hamptons are assets.

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You know, they don\'t
actually really live there

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for the most part.

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In the summertime they
come out here to vacation

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but for the most part, they\'re assets.

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If they were there year round

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there\'d be a lot more pollution.

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It is detrimental to our health here

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and economy on Shinnecock.

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You know, so our biggest thing

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is that we have to continue
to protect our front line.

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(soft music)

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- [Nasha] You want a clam rake?

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- Um, no.

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We\'re not doing good here.

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Hunting and fishing to near
extinction of everything.

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It happened so fast.

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There\'s barely any more scallops left.

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We had a tribal oyster
hatchery for a while

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but that closed down, unfortunately.

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So there\'s no tribal shellfish business

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like they do on the outside.

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(speaking foreign language)

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We\'re just back to sustenance living.

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You know, go out, get some clams,

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some mussels, scallops,
for our own supper.

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Fish to eat, you know, for the week or so.

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- Look it!
- Let\'s open our bucket.

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Yay!

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- [Girl] Now we get to eat here!

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- I absolutely, unequivocally
see a correlation

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between the overdevelopment
and especially our waterways.

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We are people of the shore.

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Our livelihood over the course of time

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has been derived from the waters.

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We, as whalers, basically
established the economy out here

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and selling whale oil for the street lamps

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and things like that.

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- We have to live here together.

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It\'s not getting any better.

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It\'s getting worse.

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The groundwater pollution,

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the contamination, the pesticides

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\'cause your lawn has to be spotless

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and bright green and unnatural,

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and the chemicals, everything
that\'s polluting this earth

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and we\'re drinking it and people

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are dying of cancer left and right.

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Can\'t you see it\'s got to stop?

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- Right here will be the tennis court,

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in the back is the pool,

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and this house will sell
for about 10 million

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but I\'m confident it\'ll
sell in the next 90 days.

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Do you speak English?

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- A little, yes.

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- I need that shut off for five minutes.

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- Oh, okay, okay.
- Okay, while we do something.

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Thanks, bud.

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As you see, it\'s like so wide open.

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This has changed with our clients

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who are now in their 30\'s and 40\'s

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and they want more modern and very open.

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So people pay for that

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and there\'s no woods.

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People don\'t really love the woods.

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They want openness.

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But, you know, you\'ll drive up the street

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and you\'ll see four of
my houses in a farm field

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and that gets people crazy.

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So, how do I defend myself against that?

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You know, I didn\'t buy the farm

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and cut it up and sell it,

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you know, the farmer did.

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- Broc, fennel,

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looks like forage in there.

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These are all perennial herbs.

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Cardoon over there.

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Edible violas.

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Nasturtiums.

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We do a lot of edible flowers.

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People discovered kale.

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Now we have about six or
eight different types of kale.

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- Yeah, this is a real
working farm, as you can tell.

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As the landscape has changed,

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we\'ve had to evolve.

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And it\'s constant.

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Nettles, 12.99 a pound.

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The family farm has been
here since the 1600\'s

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and we are the 11th generation.

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We were growing up in a very
sweet provincial little town

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and there was so much land.

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I mean, I...

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It\'s really amazing what\'s happened

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in a short amount of time

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with the waters being polluted

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and the overbuilding.

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- Yeah, even in the past 10, 15 years

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a lot of acreage that we used to rent

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from family members, now
that\'s all gone and developed.

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- It\'s a lot easier to
sell an acre of land

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for half a million dollars

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than it is to struggle and
work 50, 60 hours a week.

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(soft music)

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- Since 1640 there were all these

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different disputes about land.

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People challenging whether
the land was theirs,

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whether they had the right to graze there.

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The town of Southampton
approached the tribe

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and said \"Okay, this is how we\'re going

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\"to try to resolve this.

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\"We will give to the tribe
a lease for 1,000 years.\"

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And that includes the lands
for where we live now,

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Shinnecock Neck, the Shinnecock Hills.

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We were able to hold this lease

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and then the tribe would sublease

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to farmers and other people

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and still be able to use our own land.

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That\'s how we were able to get
a lot of our basic needs met.

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- We were given a lease
for 3,000 plus acres.

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That was whittled away,
whittled away, whittled away

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until 1859.

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1859, the robber barons,
the railroad people,

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wanted to build the railroad line

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from Manhattan out to Montauk

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and in blatant disregard
for the Non-intercourse Act,

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which said that no state,
no town, no village,

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no farmer could take land from an Indian

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or an Indian tribe without
an act of Congress.

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Well New York state,
they had 20 signatures

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supposedly giving the land to the state.

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Well 10 of those signatures
were people that were dead.

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They had gone and gotten
names off of headstones.

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The other 10 were not Shinnecock.

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This is what they put before the judge,

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they got the land, and our people,

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from that next day when
we found out about it,

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proceeded to fight for it.

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But we, as Indian people,
were not considered citizens,

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so they would not allow us
to take this into court.

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This land was stolen from us.

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Flat-out, no questions,
hands down, stolen.

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Now what sits on the acreage

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is some of the most

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prestigious golf courses in the world.

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You have a national golf course.

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You have a brand new one,
Sebonack Golf Course.

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You have Shinnecock Hills which
will be hosting the US Open.

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And you have a multitude of
multi-million dollar homes

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that sit in what was once
our sacred Shinnecock Hills.

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- Property under video surveillance.

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This is the Shinnecock Hills Golf Course.

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This was, this is a sacred place to us

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and it was a long time ago

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and it still is.

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We can come here but still
we\'re on the outside.

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We\'re not allowed in here.

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We\'re not allowed any
access to our sacred sites.

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They use our name for whatever they want.

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Their logo is a native
chief with a headdress on.

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It\'s the in your face kind of boldness.

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We know we have still to this day

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ancestors buried in this golf course.

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Buried with respect and ceremony

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and love and honor.

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Shinnecock men were hired to
help construct the golf course.

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Stories handed down to us say

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that they witnessed hundreds and hundreds

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of the ancestor\'s bones being desecrated

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during this construction.

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They couldn\'t do anything about it.

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And to host the U.S Golf Open here,

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it\'s just a slap in the face.

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- [Employee] What are you guys doing?

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- [Woman] We\'re making a documentary.

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- Okay well, I got a call about

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a suspicious vehicle here, so.

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- We\'re not trespassing.

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This is none of your business
right now, so goodbye.

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- Actually it is.
- Goodbye, no it isn\'t.

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- [Employee] I\'m an
employee of the golf club.

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- This is public property, goodbye,

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and I\'m a Shinnecock Indian.

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So leave us alone, goodbye.
- I don\'t care about

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that at all.

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- I don\'t care who you are either.

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We\'re on public property, leave us alone.

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Leave us alone.

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- [Employee] You\'re
not on public property.

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- This is, are you kidding me?

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- Want me to call the police?

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- Sure, go right ahead.
- Okay, ma\'am.

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- I\'m not even on the golf course.

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I\'m on the doggone shoulder

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and already this guy is harassing me.

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Well that\'s how the
Parrish Pond fight started.

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We were on the shoulder of the road

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having our peaceful protest

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and the New York State Police showed up

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with a chip on their shoulder.

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Someone told them that
there was a bunch of Indians

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on the side of the road protesting

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the desecration of the land.

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We were well within our rights

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where we were standing.

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This is the Parrish Pond development.

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62 acres of beautiful, pristine land

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with some of the last of
the marine plant life,

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Heathland they call it.

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It\'s gone.

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It\'s now someone\'s lawn.

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It\'s gone forever.

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We are protecting our sovereign territory.

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- [Man] You\'re talking about our land.

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- Where\'s that not one more acre sign?

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Can you read that?

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I hope everybody here can read

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\'cause that\'s what we\'re here for.

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Not one more acre.

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Not one more acre.

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The state police were just hollering

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and cursing at us.

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One in particular,

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after the bulldozers
started up their engines,

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he came from behind with all his might

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and pushed me into the middle of the road.

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We know that bones were dug up here

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and construction workers were instructed

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to put them in the dumpster.

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- When we ride through
the Shinnecock Hills,

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and you see what we consider
the destruction of our land,

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you know, you hear about the Sioux

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and their famed Black Hills,

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our Shinnecock Hills here

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held the same meaning,
the same historic value

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that any of these other
tribes around the country

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have held with their land.

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We\'ve had several digs
up in the hills there

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that have traced our lineage in this area

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back over 10,000 years.

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- Our ancestors would bury
people on the hilltops.

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The villages that we would live on

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would be on the east
side where the sun rises

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and then the burials
would be all facing west

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and so that\'s so the sunset can bring them

00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:40.673
into the spirit world.

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(train rattling)

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- Good morning, everybody.

00:24:14.754 --> 00:24:17.610
Did you guys have a good
Memorial Day weekend?

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Ruthie and I, we have a special guest here

00:24:19.763 --> 00:24:21.090
with us today.

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Our town supervisor, Jay
Schneiderman is here.

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(crowd applauding)

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- Thank you.

00:24:26.343 --> 00:24:28.740
It\'s an honor for me to
serve as your supervisor.

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The town is in great shape.

00:24:30.388 --> 00:24:32.410
We continue to work really hard

00:24:32.410 --> 00:24:35.520
on protecting drinking
water and surface waters

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and open space, keeping taxes
low which I know is important.

00:24:39.520 --> 00:24:41.640
We have the U.S. Open coming

00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:44.800
and you know, the big
USGA golf tournament,

00:24:44.800 --> 00:24:47.320
that is coming next week.

00:24:47.320 --> 00:24:49.450
It brings a lot of money to the economy

00:24:49.450 --> 00:24:50.899
and that\'s a good thing.

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- [Citizen] My question\'s about taxes.

00:24:52.610 --> 00:24:53.443
- [Jay] Sure.

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- Taxes really have become a problem.

00:24:55.980 --> 00:24:57.240
Are you concerned about that?

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- So I realize a lot of
you pay property taxes

00:24:59.850 --> 00:25:02.550
and property values are
going up in general.

00:25:02.550 --> 00:25:04.810
And I know most of you
are on fixed incomes.

00:25:04.810 --> 00:25:08.300
The high cost of land complicates
a lot of things out here

00:25:08.300 --> 00:25:09.970
and it acts as a filter.

00:25:09.970 --> 00:25:11.930
So a lot of people who may be

00:25:11.930 --> 00:25:13.410
third, fourth, fifth generation

00:25:13.410 --> 00:25:14.963
kinda grew up out here,

00:25:16.090 --> 00:25:18.430
they see the cost of living go up

00:25:18.430 --> 00:25:20.830
but their property values
are going through the roof.

00:25:20.830 --> 00:25:23.550
Their taxes are going higher and higher.

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They end up selling those houses

00:25:24.940 --> 00:25:27.600
and then that house will become

00:25:27.600 --> 00:25:29.510
probably a second home

00:25:29.510 --> 00:25:32.460
and somebody will have to
service that second home

00:25:32.460 --> 00:25:35.120
to take care of the landscaping

00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:38.260
or fix the boiler or mow the lawn.

00:25:38.260 --> 00:25:39.750
That person probably isn\'t gonna be able

00:25:39.750 --> 00:25:41.180
to live in the community.

00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:44.410
So a lot more workers are commuting in

00:25:44.410 --> 00:25:45.457
from further and further away

00:25:45.457 --> 00:25:48.360
and you see that in the mornings between,

00:25:48.360 --> 00:25:50.560
say 6:00 o\'clock and 9:00 o\'clock.

00:25:50.560 --> 00:25:54.430
The traffic eastbound is unbelievable.

00:25:54.430 --> 00:25:56.660
So we\'re creating a demand for labor

00:25:56.660 --> 00:25:58.750
that can\'t live in this community.

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- [Reporter] Southampton
town officials say

00:26:00.340 --> 00:26:02.700
the most horrifying violations they found

00:26:02.700 --> 00:26:04.910
at the Bel-Aire Cove Motel.

00:26:04.910 --> 00:26:06.450
Town code officers this week

00:26:06.450 --> 00:26:10.930
issued 215 code violations
against 28 landlords.

00:26:10.930 --> 00:26:13.310
Officials say they found 17 people

00:26:13.310 --> 00:26:16.022
living in this four bedroom house.

00:26:16.022 --> 00:26:18.439
(soft music)

00:26:21.410 --> 00:26:22.970
- A lot of people are struggling.

00:26:22.970 --> 00:26:27.627
If a three bedroom house
cost you, I don\'t know,

00:26:27.627 --> 00:26:31.710
$3,000 a month and you\'re only making,

00:26:31.710 --> 00:26:33.943
you know, $15 an hour,

00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:39.800
and they\'re only letting
you work 25 hours a week

00:26:39.800 --> 00:26:42.593
because they don\'t wanna
give you insurance,

00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:45.640
we have people that
don\'t have places to live

00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.110
that are sleeping out in the woods

00:26:48.110 --> 00:26:50.910
or have making little shacks
for themselves to live

00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:53.080
because they\'re poor and they\'re homeless.

00:26:53.080 --> 00:26:53.913
People hear that.

00:26:53.913 --> 00:26:55.327
They\'re like \"Oh, you\'re in the Hamptons.

00:26:55.327 --> 00:26:56.427
\"What are you talking about?

00:26:56.427 --> 00:26:57.747
\"Are you kidding me?

00:26:57.747 --> 00:26:59.520
\"You\'re in the Hamptons.\"

00:26:59.520 --> 00:27:02.950
- It\'s a kind of classic
town gown in the Hamptons.

00:27:02.950 --> 00:27:04.590
The professional middle class

00:27:04.590 --> 00:27:06.400
is so far from the elite

00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.000
and there is such an
antagonism towards the elite.

00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.040
You could feel that on a visceral level.

00:27:11.040 --> 00:27:15.640
On the other hand, the whole
economy is based on this elite.

00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.590
And so it\'s really hard not to kind of

00:27:18.590 --> 00:27:21.570
continue to market and cater to this elite

00:27:21.570 --> 00:27:23.743
at the same time that you resent them.

00:27:24.910 --> 00:27:28.850
I think the Hamptons represents
a historical microcosm

00:27:28.850 --> 00:27:30.747
of the class struggle
here in the United States

00:27:30.747 --> 00:27:33.310
and in many cases, around the world

00:27:33.310 --> 00:27:36.400
because it begins when Native Americans

00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.270
who had lived here on the land

00:27:38.270 --> 00:27:40.410
have that land taken away from them

00:27:40.410 --> 00:27:41.600
and the only thing left

00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:42.960
is really for them to become

00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.363
the initial working class
here in the Hamptons.

00:27:47.210 --> 00:27:49.490
- Did you have fun on the playground?

00:27:49.490 --> 00:27:51.940
Did you go to the
playground or to the beach?

00:27:51.940 --> 00:27:53.107
- To the park.

00:27:53.107 --> 00:27:54.350
- Okay.

00:27:54.350 --> 00:27:56.710
One child sleeps on that couch.

00:27:56.710 --> 00:27:57.850
Two sleep on this couch.

00:27:57.850 --> 00:27:59.470
I sleep on that bed.

00:27:59.470 --> 00:28:02.450
And when another grandson comes over

00:28:02.450 --> 00:28:03.940
he sleeps like right here.

00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:06.520
He\'ll put the pillows down and sleep here.

00:28:06.520 --> 00:28:10.320
And then Nasha and her
daughter sleep in one bedroom

00:28:10.320 --> 00:28:12.890
and my mother sleeps in that bedroom.

00:28:12.890 --> 00:28:15.720
So, we have to take care of each other.

00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.873
The housing situation doesn\'t
get any better around here.

00:28:20.550 --> 00:28:23.673
And I mean, the oppression runs deep.

00:28:26.840 --> 00:28:28.380
- Every member of the Shinnecock Nation

00:28:28.380 --> 00:28:31.320
is a member of the town of Southampton

00:28:31.320 --> 00:28:33.140
and so they\'re entitled to everything

00:28:33.140 --> 00:28:35.700
that any town resident would have.

00:28:35.700 --> 00:28:37.140
They certainly vote,

00:28:37.140 --> 00:28:40.040
they get permits to park on the beaches,

00:28:40.040 --> 00:28:42.180
they use all town facilities.

00:28:42.180 --> 00:28:43.760
There are tremendous things

00:28:43.760 --> 00:28:45.990
that members of the nation
can take advantage of

00:28:45.990 --> 00:28:48.150
without paying any property taxes.

00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:50.910
But we do have high value properties

00:28:50.910 --> 00:28:51.900
that pay high taxes

00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:53.480
that provide services.

00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.730
Youth services, transportation services,

00:28:56.730 --> 00:28:58.320
park services, roads.

00:28:58.320 --> 00:28:59.680
And the Shinnecock Nation,

00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:01.820
they benefit from all of those things.

00:29:01.820 --> 00:29:03.580
The same things that I
can take advantage of

00:29:03.580 --> 00:29:05.650
and you know, I pay property taxes.

00:29:05.650 --> 00:29:09.430
We\'re obviously in a very
strong fiscal position.

00:29:09.430 --> 00:29:12.550
We\'re improving our roads,
we\'re fixing drainage problems,

00:29:12.550 --> 00:29:14.740
we\'re addressing infrastructure,

00:29:14.740 --> 00:29:17.870
we\'re improving our parks
that everybody enjoys.

00:29:17.870 --> 00:29:19.910
What happens when you do that?

00:29:19.910 --> 00:29:22.950
People want to live in
a community like that.

00:29:22.950 --> 00:29:25.510
- What we\'ve done is
tremendous for the town.

00:29:25.510 --> 00:29:27.450
400 homes we\'ve built

00:29:27.450 --> 00:29:32.080
and the average tax bill\'s
gotta be $30,000 on my homes.

00:29:32.080 --> 00:29:33.870
It\'s really helped keep up

00:29:33.870 --> 00:29:35.450
with the ever growing budget.

00:29:35.450 --> 00:29:38.540
You know, the town needs the
development to keep going.

00:29:38.540 --> 00:29:40.020
They\'ll never say that

00:29:40.020 --> 00:29:42.472
but what would they do without it?

00:29:42.472 --> 00:29:44.972
(heavy music)

00:29:51.770 --> 00:29:56.650
- The Hamptons as a place
of paradise and respite

00:29:56.650 --> 00:29:59.590
was something that Walt
Whitman wrote about

00:29:59.590 --> 00:30:01.930
and inspired a whole generation of artists

00:30:01.930 --> 00:30:03.423
to leave New York to go out.

00:30:04.560 --> 00:30:07.320
It became a place that symbolized nature.

00:30:07.320 --> 00:30:10.320
It\'s symbolized this authenticity.

00:30:10.320 --> 00:30:15.320
As the bohemian pioneers do in
all forms of gentrification,

00:30:15.580 --> 00:30:18.640
the artists brought out
the very rich people

00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.140
who saw this place for its natural beauty

00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:24.023
but also as a place that they
could put their mark on it.

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.530
Very wealthy people from New York City

00:30:26.530 --> 00:30:30.030
went out and built these
huge summer cottages

00:30:30.030 --> 00:30:31.980
and it became kind of the place

00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:34.180
for the rich and famous to go.

00:30:34.180 --> 00:30:37.560
On the one hand,
celebrating its naturalness

00:30:37.560 --> 00:30:40.150
but also bringing in electric lights

00:30:40.150 --> 00:30:41.830
and bringing in the golf clubs

00:30:41.830 --> 00:30:43.850
and bringing in all
the different trappings

00:30:43.850 --> 00:30:46.093
of their New York high society.

00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:54.960
- Hi, welcome back to \"Talk of the Town\".

00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:56.190
I\'m your host Jay Schneiderman

00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:58.400
and we are talking about the U.S. Open,

00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.600
the 118th U.S. Open.

00:31:00.600 --> 00:31:04.460
You have been here for two
years planning this event.

00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:05.950
- [Man] We\'ve been in
the community for a while

00:31:05.950 --> 00:31:07.073
but now it\'s real.

00:31:07.073 --> 00:31:10.050
- Well we certainly like
having you guys here.

00:31:10.050 --> 00:31:11.340
We try at the town level

00:31:11.340 --> 00:31:13.180
to be as accommodating as we can

00:31:13.180 --> 00:31:15.410
and we recognize over $100 million

00:31:16.246 --> 00:31:18.313
in economic flow into the community.

00:31:20.340 --> 00:31:22.860
- Despite the bumper to bumper traffic,

00:31:22.860 --> 00:31:24.010
and the hassle of getting

00:31:24.010 --> 00:31:26.990
to one of golf\'s premier
tournaments played right here

00:31:26.990 --> 00:31:30.000
at Shinnecock Hills Golf
Course in Southampton,

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.860
it\'s estimated about 30,000 spectators

00:31:32.860 --> 00:31:34.450
will attend the week long event,

00:31:34.450 --> 00:31:37.230
helping business boom in the area.

00:31:37.230 --> 00:31:39.670
Including here at Melrose Pizza

00:31:39.670 --> 00:31:41.820
where pies are flying out the door.

00:31:41.820 --> 00:31:44.190
And they are certainly
happy to get a piece

00:31:44.190 --> 00:31:47.720
of the U.S. Open pie.

00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.220
- You guys sat right at the table with us

00:31:50.220 --> 00:31:51.430
in that last meeting

00:31:51.430 --> 00:31:53.570
and I feel personally that you misled us.

00:31:53.570 --> 00:31:55.550
So, as far as I\'m concerned,

00:31:55.550 --> 00:31:56.770
you could\'ve mentioned that then

00:31:56.770 --> 00:31:59.570
and said well we really have
no need for overflow parking

00:31:59.570 --> 00:32:01.470
when Sage and Williams said to you

00:32:01.470 --> 00:32:02.897
all the people coming from the east

00:32:02.897 --> 00:32:04.900
could be parked on the res.

00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:06.120
You never mentioned that you had

00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:08.390
already established parking east.

00:32:08.390 --> 00:32:10.497
So, you know, you can sit there

00:32:10.497 --> 00:32:11.840
and try to spin it because

00:32:11.840 --> 00:32:13.870
that\'s what you do as a media person,

00:32:13.870 --> 00:32:15.930
but we still have to answer to the people

00:32:15.930 --> 00:32:18.360
and the people right
now didn\'t even want us

00:32:18.360 --> 00:32:20.330
to continue any negotiations.

00:32:20.330 --> 00:32:22.832
That was the sentiment
in the meeting Wednesday.

00:32:22.832 --> 00:32:24.410
(audience applauding)

00:32:24.410 --> 00:32:26.050
- [Golfer] Hey Phil, hit
it in the holes, baby.

00:32:26.050 --> 00:32:26.883
Yeah, baby!

00:32:27.870 --> 00:32:29.900
- Don\'t even continue the negotiations.

00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:32.903
Like, let\'s just go out there and protest.

00:32:32.903 --> 00:32:33.749
(tribal percussion music)

00:32:33.749 --> 00:32:38.082
(woman singing in foreign language)

00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:07.359
(car horn honks)
(woman vociferating)

00:33:07.527 --> 00:33:08.447
- Hi, Rebecca.

00:33:08.447 --> 00:33:09.672
- Hi, how are you?

00:33:09.672 --> 00:33:13.409
We\'ll be here probably from at
least 8:00 to 5:00 everyday.

00:33:13.409 --> 00:33:14.670
- Okay.
- Yeah.

00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:17.690
He said if we need
anything just let him know.

00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:18.790
We need our land back.

00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:21.410
- You know, they\'re sitting on

00:33:21.410 --> 00:33:24.670
one of the most valuable
pieces of land in the country

00:33:24.670 --> 00:33:27.713
and they could generate
income from that land.

00:33:28.570 --> 00:33:33.570
Like they could all be
millionaires, literally.

00:33:33.840 --> 00:33:36.180
But they can\'t seem to get behind

00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:38.853
any one idea and stick
with it for very long.

00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:41.320
I don\'t know what\'s the right

00:33:41.320 --> 00:33:45.150
economic development
direction for the Shinnecocks.

00:33:45.150 --> 00:33:46.633
It\'s really up to them.

00:33:49.770 --> 00:33:51.493
But they have opportunities.

00:33:53.980 --> 00:33:55.880
The town is not standing in their way.

00:33:57.120 --> 00:33:59.600
- [Reporter] It\'s the
multi-million dollar question,

00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:01.530
where will the Shinnecock Indians

00:34:01.530 --> 00:34:03.010
want to build their casino

00:34:03.010 --> 00:34:04.780
now that they\'ve cleared a big hurdle

00:34:04.780 --> 00:34:07.337
in getting federal recognition as a tribe?

00:34:07.337 --> 00:34:09.180
- There was a tribe in Connecticut

00:34:09.180 --> 00:34:12.520
that owned one of the largest
casinos in the country.

00:34:12.520 --> 00:34:14.170
They excelled.

00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:17.330
They went by us like
we were standing still

00:34:17.330 --> 00:34:22.330
and in terms of creating
economic development.

00:34:22.510 --> 00:34:24.510
When we started the gaming

00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:28.023
there was a lot of hope in our community.

00:34:29.397 --> 00:34:30.230
As soon as we did that

00:34:30.230 --> 00:34:32.110
we became public enemy number one.

00:34:32.110 --> 00:34:33.760
- I\'ve been living here 43 years.

00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:35.320
I have no desire to have that around here.

00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:36.900
- The island\'s narrow.

00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:39.280
We have traffic problems as it is.

00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.040
- Certainly, revenues from
a casino could be quite high

00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:44.964
but the community does not want to see

00:34:44.964 --> 00:34:48.100
a gambling facility out on the east end.

00:34:48.100 --> 00:34:50.520
A lot of people had
concerns about the traffic

00:34:50.520 --> 00:34:54.300
and the problems that are
sometimes associated with gaming.

00:34:54.300 --> 00:34:55.583
- It\'s gonna cause traffic.

00:34:55.583 --> 00:34:57.900
Have you been out there on 27 lately

00:34:57.900 --> 00:34:59.840
to understand the traffic out there?

00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:01.210
We didn\'t create that.

00:35:01.210 --> 00:35:02.043
You did.

00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:06.210
We were going to start a small facility.

00:35:06.210 --> 00:35:07.310
We weren\'t going to go into

00:35:07.310 --> 00:35:11.710
the big billion dollar
facilities or anything like that.

00:35:11.710 --> 00:35:13.080
We went through that whole year

00:35:13.080 --> 00:35:14.890
and it was really a nightmare.

00:35:14.890 --> 00:35:16.777
The developer backed away

00:35:16.777 --> 00:35:18.800
and the whole thing just fell apart.

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.680
Literally, it fell apart.

00:35:20.680 --> 00:35:23.630
While we were good neighbors
everything was okay.

00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:25.160
You know, as long as you Indians

00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:27.880
stay up on the reservation
and in your place,

00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.983
you know, we\'re fine having you here.

00:35:31.830 --> 00:35:33.910
- I\'m not really sure what else

00:35:33.910 --> 00:35:36.690
the town can do for members of the nation

00:35:36.690 --> 00:35:38.320
but I think that they could improve

00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.743
their economic situation in a lot of ways

00:35:40.743 --> 00:35:43.800
and I\'d love to work
with the Tribal Council

00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.470
moving an idea forward as long as it\'s one

00:35:46.470 --> 00:35:51.130
that is, you know, really
supports the community,

00:35:51.130 --> 00:35:54.000
it\'s not gonna be a
problem for the community.

00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.150
- The Hamptons itself has become a brand.

00:35:57.150 --> 00:35:59.160
It\'s become a commodity.

00:35:59.160 --> 00:36:00.450
And one of the things

00:36:00.450 --> 00:36:02.550
that\'s buttress the image of the Hamptons

00:36:02.550 --> 00:36:04.780
as the land of the rich and famous

00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:07.630
is the marketing to the rich and famous.

00:36:07.630 --> 00:36:10.880
That makes it even harder for
people who are struggling.

00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:12.920
That makes it even harder for the people

00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:14.880
who are in the backroom doing the dishes

00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.400
or the people who are
serving and being ignored

00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.420
or the people who are cleaning the streets

00:36:19.420 --> 00:36:20.870
or the people who are in places

00:36:20.870 --> 00:36:22.950
like the Shinnecock Reservation

00:36:22.950 --> 00:36:27.480
where you essentially have
whatever cultural capitol

00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.150
having, quote unquote, \"Real Indians\"

00:36:30.150 --> 00:36:33.006
gives to a location but
without any knowledge

00:36:33.006 --> 00:36:34.780
of the history struggle

00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.295
and what those different
locations actually mean.

00:36:37.295 --> 00:36:42.287
(soft music)

00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:13.549
- We\'ve seen more Porches
and Mercedes and--

00:37:13.549 --> 00:37:14.764
(car horn honks)

00:37:14.764 --> 00:37:16.380
Whoo!

00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:17.547
Thanks friend!

00:37:18.482 --> 00:37:19.526
- Hi, how you doing?

00:37:19.526 --> 00:37:20.773
- Good.
- All right, and you?

00:37:20.773 --> 00:37:21.651
- I\'m well.

00:37:21.651 --> 00:37:25.490
So I saw the signs and I wanted
to see what was going on.

00:37:25.490 --> 00:37:30.490
So there are remains that are just--

00:37:31.260 --> 00:37:33.920
- Our ancestors are still buried there.

00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.140
- What do you think should be done

00:37:35.140 --> 00:37:36.730
for them to right a wrong?

00:37:36.730 --> 00:37:38.290
Like what do you think?

00:37:38.290 --> 00:37:39.123
- [Woman] Really?

00:37:39.123 --> 00:37:40.560
Give us our land back.

00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:43.060
- Yeah, you want the whole course back.

00:37:43.060 --> 00:37:44.562
- It would be nice if
we got our whole 360--

00:37:44.562 --> 00:37:45.395
- That would be nice.

00:37:45.395 --> 00:37:47.245
I don\'t think that that
actually will happen.

00:37:47.245 --> 00:37:49.190
- They can start with the
reconstruction of the graves

00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:53.160
so that they don\'t play golf
on the graves of our ancestors.

00:37:53.160 --> 00:37:56.180
- And at least acknowledgment
to Shinnecock, the people.

00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:58.060
Not Shinnecock the golf course.

00:37:58.060 --> 00:37:58.893
- No, I know.

00:37:58.893 --> 00:38:00.300
I was really curious because I know

00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:03.930
there\'s millions and millions
of dollars being made.

00:38:03.930 --> 00:38:05.280
Like how can you right

00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.823
or how would you want the
right, the wrong to be--

00:38:08.823 --> 00:38:10.070
- [Woman] I just told you.

00:38:10.070 --> 00:38:11.060
- Yeah to get back the land.

00:38:11.060 --> 00:38:12.555
- [Woman] I just told
you, give back our land.

00:38:12.555 --> 00:38:13.950
- Right, they probably won\'t.
- That\'s all.

00:38:13.950 --> 00:38:16.220
- Why is it fair to continue on

00:38:16.220 --> 00:38:18.910
committing this crime of stolen property?

00:38:18.910 --> 00:38:21.200
Just because you stole it
a hundred and so years ago

00:38:21.200 --> 00:38:23.720
doesn\'t mean the crime goes away.

00:38:23.720 --> 00:38:27.300
You take our land, you
desecrate our graves,

00:38:27.300 --> 00:38:29.670
you play golf, you make
bazillions of dollars.

00:38:29.670 --> 00:38:31.470
What is just and fair about that?

00:38:31.470 --> 00:38:32.303
Nothing.

00:38:32.303 --> 00:38:34.350
You gotta start from square one.

00:38:34.350 --> 00:38:35.183
- Start.

00:38:36.270 --> 00:38:37.103
Yeah.

00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:41.593
I\'m with you.

00:38:41.593 --> 00:38:42.870
- [Rebecca] Okay, thank you.

00:38:53.604 --> 00:38:55.620
- [Man] You have the logo on your shirt.

00:38:55.620 --> 00:38:56.480
- Yeah, that\'s the real logo

00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:58.533
not that fake Shinnecock Open logo.

00:38:59.550 --> 00:39:02.950
My grandmother was one of the
matriarchs of our community.

00:39:02.950 --> 00:39:04.640
She was born in 1889.

00:39:04.640 --> 00:39:07.980
I think one of the things
that she instilled in us,

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:09.960
I had two uncles.

00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:10.793
They caddied.

00:39:10.793 --> 00:39:13.280
They used to caddy right
over here at Shinnecock Hills

00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.600
and everyday that we
rode on that golf course

00:39:15.600 --> 00:39:19.487
she would say to us \"Little
man, this is your land.

00:39:19.487 --> 00:39:23.977
\"This is our land and you
have to get this back for us.

00:39:23.977 --> 00:39:26.257
\"It\'s gonna be your
generation that does it.\"

00:39:27.600 --> 00:39:31.080
The land battle has been ongoing.

00:39:31.080 --> 00:39:36.080
From 1978 we started
this battle, this fight

00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:41.540
for recognition and land.

00:39:41.540 --> 00:39:46.240
In the last 15 years we
finally had enough funding

00:39:46.240 --> 00:39:47.937
to really fight it in court.

00:39:47.937 --> 00:39:51.580
- So it was 2005 that we first

00:39:51.580 --> 00:39:54.070
officially filed our land claim.

00:39:54.070 --> 00:39:55.690
- They\'re claiming latches.

00:39:55.690 --> 00:39:58.070
And what latches is, latches says that,

00:39:58.070 --> 00:40:00.110
well you waited too long.

00:40:00.110 --> 00:40:01.800
You didn\'t fight for it.

00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.500
And we\'re like, are you kidding?

00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:08.240
- And the equitable doctrine of latches,

00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:13.240
you can\'t disrupt the expectation
of current land owners

00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:19.310
and because the court of appeals
just dismissed our claims

00:40:19.310 --> 00:40:24.140
we weren\'t able to delve
into the facts of the case.

00:40:24.140 --> 00:40:28.400
So I put together a petition
for a writ of certiorari

00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.173
to the Supreme Court for our land claim.

00:40:32.420 --> 00:40:34.630
It\'s kind of the last way

00:40:34.630 --> 00:40:39.110
to really exhaust your
claim through the system.

00:40:39.110 --> 00:40:43.580
But the Supreme Court decided
not to review our claim.

00:40:43.580 --> 00:40:46.340
You know, in that sense it\'s still alive.

00:40:46.340 --> 00:40:48.883
If it was an unfavorable decision,

00:40:48.883 --> 00:40:52.920
that would really have ended our claim.

00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.580
But they didn\'t and because of that,

00:40:55.580 --> 00:40:59.418
we still have ways that
we can bring our claims.

00:40:59.418 --> 00:41:01.835
(soft music)

00:41:07.240 --> 00:41:08.503
- We have a saying.

00:41:11.810 --> 00:41:13.840
We have to preserve our way of life

00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.493
for the next seven generations.

00:41:17.850 --> 00:41:20.913
What that means is that we
have to understand who we are,

00:41:22.410 --> 00:41:24.110
we have to understand our history,

00:41:25.336 --> 00:41:27.936
and we have to be able to
tell that to our children.

00:41:29.430 --> 00:41:30.757
It was a famous quote.

00:41:30.757 --> 00:41:33.280
\"To save the man you
must kill the Indian.\"

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.402
Meaning not literally kill the person

00:41:35.402 --> 00:41:37.390
but you have to kill the
Indian spirit inside of them.

00:41:37.390 --> 00:41:39.670
You have to kill their way of life

00:41:39.670 --> 00:41:42.013
and turn them into a civilized person.

00:41:43.923 --> 00:41:46.480
It was actually illegal in
the United States and Canada

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.520
for Native Americans to
practice our cultures,

00:41:49.520 --> 00:41:51.200
for us to hold ceremonies,

00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:54.163
for us to wear our traditional regalia.

00:41:55.680 --> 00:41:58.330
They would say that we couldn\'t
have been worshiping God

00:41:58.330 --> 00:41:59.580
because we weren\'t Christian.

00:41:59.580 --> 00:42:01.680
So we must have been worshiping the Devil.

00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.370
We were forced to assimilate
to the colonized world

00:42:08.470 --> 00:42:11.823
due to what I call
institutionalized colonialism.

00:42:12.780 --> 00:42:15.230
A lot of culture was lost.

00:42:15.230 --> 00:42:16.800
A lot of our history was lost.

00:42:18.650 --> 00:42:21.090
- There used to be a stockade downtown

00:42:21.090 --> 00:42:25.120
and our people used to
be put in that stockade

00:42:25.120 --> 00:42:27.163
if we were caught speaking our language.

00:42:33.150 --> 00:42:35.670
- The Hamptons has its own
sense of its own history

00:42:35.670 --> 00:42:37.370
and who gets to tell that history?

00:42:39.600 --> 00:42:42.500
There are two ways that people

00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:44.943
who kind of come to an area

00:42:44.943 --> 00:42:48.520
and conquer and settle an area

00:42:48.520 --> 00:42:52.100
try to both imprint
their own identity on it

00:42:52.100 --> 00:42:53.510
and then naturalize it in a way

00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:55.290
as if they\'ve always been there.

00:42:55.290 --> 00:43:00.290
The first way is to establish
the aesthetic of their lives.

00:43:00.750 --> 00:43:02.860
They build buildings that
look like the buildings

00:43:02.860 --> 00:43:04.370
that they\'re used to.

00:43:04.370 --> 00:43:07.540
So you bring with you and
you build what you know.

00:43:07.540 --> 00:43:09.930
But eventually you need to suggest

00:43:09.930 --> 00:43:12.420
that this always was.

00:43:12.420 --> 00:43:14.930
You start to look at the history

00:43:14.930 --> 00:43:16.830
and who gets to tell the history

00:43:16.830 --> 00:43:19.100
and where do you start your history.

00:43:19.100 --> 00:43:22.830
You start to look at how things are named.

00:43:22.830 --> 00:43:25.540
You start to create a
kind of historical sense

00:43:25.540 --> 00:43:28.210
that this has always been your place,

00:43:28.210 --> 00:43:29.900
you are of this place.

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:31.560
And so, if we\'re really going to have

00:43:31.560 --> 00:43:33.281
an accurate picture of history,

00:43:33.281 --> 00:43:36.280
whose voices aren\'t
being portrayed in this

00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.993
and what do they add to the story?

00:43:38.946 --> 00:43:41.529
(bell dinging)

00:43:58.110 --> 00:43:59.540
- The Southampton Town Board

00:43:59.540 --> 00:44:02.950
has made massive efforts to
protect their colonial sites

00:44:02.950 --> 00:44:04.560
and their colonial cemeteries,

00:44:04.560 --> 00:44:06.100
their colonial old houses

00:44:08.200 --> 00:44:11.040
but they don\'t make an effort to help us

00:44:11.040 --> 00:44:15.090
preserve our Native American
sensitive sacred sites.

00:44:15.090 --> 00:44:17.390
They just, they don\'t see it as the same.

00:44:17.390 --> 00:44:21.130
- The acquisition of lands
of Romeo in Shinnecock Hills.

00:44:21.130 --> 00:44:23.790
- We have been before you many many times

00:44:23.790 --> 00:44:26.880
and always have said the same thing.

00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.153
The goal is to preserve the 13 acres.

00:44:30.985 --> 00:44:32.235
Good afternoon.

00:44:33.460 --> 00:44:37.110
I am Rebecca Genia and this
is Nasha, my granddaughter.

00:44:37.110 --> 00:44:39.330
We\'re from the Shinnecock Indian Nation.

00:44:39.330 --> 00:44:42.190
I believe the town of
Southampton needs a reminder

00:44:42.190 --> 00:44:44.730
that life did not begin in 1640

00:44:44.730 --> 00:44:47.840
when the pilgrims arrived
on our shores from Europe.

00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.730
Native people lived on this
land in harmony with nature

00:44:50.730 --> 00:44:53.890
for thousands and thousands
of years before your arrival.

00:44:53.890 --> 00:44:54.990
- Public hearing number five

00:44:54.990 --> 00:44:57.890
to consider the acquisition
of lands of Parrish Pond.

00:44:57.890 --> 00:44:59.040
- The source of funding would be

00:44:59.040 --> 00:45:00.760
the Community Preservation Fund.

00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.370
- Those lots were historically sensitive

00:45:03.370 --> 00:45:05.190
and what they\'re planning to do with it

00:45:05.190 --> 00:45:06.890
to preserve it, does anybody know?

00:45:08.160 --> 00:45:10.590
- Today we\'re talking about preservation.

00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:12.510
Primarily land preservation

00:45:12.510 --> 00:45:14.610
and the Community Preservation Fund.

00:45:14.610 --> 00:45:16.280
- When property transfers,

00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.330
the buyer pays 2% of the purchase price

00:45:18.330 --> 00:45:19.580
into a dedicated fund.

00:45:19.580 --> 00:45:22.950
- This 2% tax has been
generating quite a bit of money.

00:45:22.950 --> 00:45:24.460
- In the town of Southampton alone

00:45:24.460 --> 00:45:27.842
the fund has generated
over $700 million, yes.

00:45:27.842 --> 00:45:28.722
- Right.

00:45:28.722 --> 00:45:30.960
Wow, $700 million.
- Yes.

00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.500
Previous to the 1990\'s,

00:45:32.500 --> 00:45:37.130
there was your small year
round population here

00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:41.010
as well as your summer resort homeowners.

00:45:41.010 --> 00:45:42.750
I think in the 1990\'s,

00:45:42.750 --> 00:45:46.433
Wall Street started to sort of get bigger.

00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:51.933
The Hamptons became an
attractive place to have equity.

00:45:52.820 --> 00:45:54.770
- With the pace of development

00:45:54.770 --> 00:45:57.120
we\'re losing open spaces.

00:45:57.120 --> 00:46:00.200
Woodlands, which are an important habitat.

00:46:00.200 --> 00:46:01.510
We\'re losing farmland,

00:46:01.510 --> 00:46:05.800
which was part of our
agricultural character.

00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:09.540
So we started to buy a
lot of these properties.

00:46:09.540 --> 00:46:13.300
It really kind of protected
our rural character.

00:46:13.300 --> 00:46:16.190
- People who spend a lot
of money on homes out here

00:46:16.190 --> 00:46:18.320
really love to drive past farmland.

00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:19.730
Community Preservation Fund

00:46:19.730 --> 00:46:21.870
was to preserve our community character

00:46:21.870 --> 00:46:25.300
which is defined, in part,
with our scenic landscapes.

00:46:25.300 --> 00:46:27.870
- You know, one of the
things that accompanies

00:46:27.870 --> 00:46:30.330
this new wave out to the Hamptons

00:46:30.330 --> 00:46:31.970
is a kind of aesthetic

00:46:31.970 --> 00:46:34.683
that really creates a new sense of nature.

00:46:36.160 --> 00:46:38.160
If you look at some of the photography

00:46:38.160 --> 00:46:40.260
of the disappearing farms

00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:42.820
and there\'s this kind of
romanticization of the farms

00:46:42.820 --> 00:46:45.300
at the same time that
farms are becoming vistas

00:46:45.300 --> 00:46:46.450
and not working farms.

00:46:46.450 --> 00:46:48.940
They don\'t produce food, right?

00:46:48.940 --> 00:46:50.630
They produce views.

00:46:50.630 --> 00:46:52.070
Photographers kind of create

00:46:52.070 --> 00:46:54.600
this whole nostalgia around the farms

00:46:54.600 --> 00:46:56.270
at the same time that they kind of

00:46:56.270 --> 00:46:58.290
naturalize their extinction.

00:46:58.290 --> 00:47:00.610
It really turns farms into this

00:47:00.610 --> 00:47:04.070
kind of caricature of
something that\'s historical.

00:47:04.070 --> 00:47:04.940
And on the other hand,

00:47:04.940 --> 00:47:07.690
it\'s a distortion of the
historical narrative itself

00:47:07.690 --> 00:47:10.250
because it suggests that
the farms themselves

00:47:10.250 --> 00:47:12.070
are what\'s indigenous to the place.

00:47:12.070 --> 00:47:14.140
And of course, the farms only represent

00:47:14.140 --> 00:47:16.970
that wave of conqueror
that clear cut the land

00:47:16.970 --> 00:47:19.050
and destroy the Native American economy

00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:20.290
and brought in their own kind

00:47:20.290 --> 00:47:22.143
of commercial agricultural economy.

00:47:29.793 --> 00:47:32.730
- Shinnecocks do alert me to properties

00:47:32.730 --> 00:47:34.640
that they think are important.

00:47:34.640 --> 00:47:38.050
They will get involved,
particularly for a subdivision

00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:40.510
on a property that they feel is important

00:47:40.510 --> 00:47:42.390
to explore preservation.

00:47:42.390 --> 00:47:44.680
It has to do with timing and persistence

00:47:44.680 --> 00:47:46.733
and also with the Shinnecock Tribe members

00:47:46.733 --> 00:47:50.040
educating land owners and helping them

00:47:50.040 --> 00:47:52.890
to understand why it\'s important.

00:47:52.890 --> 00:47:56.140
- We\'ve been able to preserve,

00:47:56.140 --> 00:47:59.760
I think it\'s less than 20 acres of land,

00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:01.910
fighting tooth and nail

00:48:01.910 --> 00:48:03.410
telling them these are graves,

00:48:03.410 --> 00:48:05.870
we have to protect them,
this is sacred land,

00:48:05.870 --> 00:48:08.290
this is ancient burials.

00:48:08.290 --> 00:48:11.190
New York is one of four
states in the whole country

00:48:11.190 --> 00:48:13.672
that don\'t have graves protection laws.

00:48:13.672 --> 00:48:15.830
(thrilling music)

00:48:15.830 --> 00:48:17.450
- [Reporter] Walter
Richards of Shelter Island

00:48:17.450 --> 00:48:19.480
speaks with awe about the
discovery he unearthed

00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.130
on the grounds of his Osprey Road home.

00:48:22.130 --> 00:48:24.110
A mass grave containing the remains

00:48:24.110 --> 00:48:25.770
of Native American Indians.

00:48:25.770 --> 00:48:28.230
Skeletal remains buried in fetal positions

00:48:28.230 --> 00:48:30.930
about four feet into the ground.

00:48:30.930 --> 00:48:33.730
- It\'s not too late and it\'s
not over till it\'s over.

00:48:33.730 --> 00:48:36.080
There\'s not one foundation up there yet.

00:48:36.080 --> 00:48:40.300
- A horse barn was built
over a massive grave site

00:48:40.300 --> 00:48:42.620
on private property.

00:48:42.620 --> 00:48:44.480
Despite the good intentions

00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:48.320
and the good will of
individuals and town people,

00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.917
they went ahead and built it.

00:48:54.453 --> 00:48:55.630
You have a known grave site,

00:48:55.630 --> 00:48:59.860
you have a known, it\'s on
county land or public land,

00:48:59.860 --> 00:49:04.490
there are laws, there
are rules and regulations

00:49:04.490 --> 00:49:06.660
in place to protect those sites

00:49:06.660 --> 00:49:10.600
but if they\'re on private land,
then it\'s a different story.

00:49:10.600 --> 00:49:11.970
- Everybody watches Discovery Channel.

00:49:11.970 --> 00:49:12.803
We thought this was something

00:49:12.803 --> 00:49:14.800
that was gonna be really neat

00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:15.910
and be able to uncover.

00:49:15.910 --> 00:49:17.810
We had a really good time uncovering it

00:49:17.810 --> 00:49:19.200
and looking at everything and studying it.

00:49:19.200 --> 00:49:21.510
It was a real, it was really exciting.

00:49:21.510 --> 00:49:23.200
We thought it would be
in the best interest

00:49:23.200 --> 00:49:25.097
of the remains to be encased

00:49:25.097 --> 00:49:28.000
within the four walls of our structure

00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.240
and basically preserved forever.

00:49:30.240 --> 00:49:32.800
Which when you get into the whole,

00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.880
which that\'s when things went awry

00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.650
because we didn\'t know
that their belief system

00:49:38.650 --> 00:49:40.460
was not similar to our belief system

00:49:40.460 --> 00:49:43.930
where we bury people in
concrete vaults all the time.

00:49:43.930 --> 00:49:46.550
- Don\'t imagine how we feel.

00:49:46.550 --> 00:49:50.523
Imagine how you would feel if it were you.

00:49:53.210 --> 00:49:57.750
- Shelter Island prompted us
to start writing legislation.

00:49:57.750 --> 00:50:00.550
- When these issues are
brought to our attention

00:50:00.550 --> 00:50:02.800
we address them like a fire drill.

00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.760
Seeing that, the Shinnecocks have proposed

00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.460
that there be a systematized
approach to this,

00:50:09.460 --> 00:50:12.120
namely a colonial and Native Americans

00:50:12.120 --> 00:50:14.080
graves preservation act.

00:50:14.080 --> 00:50:17.120
- This draft has been with
the Southampton Town Board

00:50:17.120 --> 00:50:20.080
probably since 2003.

00:50:20.080 --> 00:50:22.720
You know, archeologists have helped.

00:50:22.720 --> 00:50:25.430
Over the past 13 years or so,

00:50:25.430 --> 00:50:27.830
every time we go to the
Southampton Town Board,

00:50:27.830 --> 00:50:29.720
okay well here\'s another draft.

00:50:29.720 --> 00:50:31.370
We\'ll have to run it by the attorney.

00:50:31.370 --> 00:50:36.370
We have, we\'re probably on
our fourth town supervisor.

00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:37.713
- George.

00:50:37.713 --> 00:50:39.100
- I think the real experts on this

00:50:39.100 --> 00:50:41.256
are sitting in front of
you, the Shinnecocks.

00:50:41.256 --> 00:50:42.089
- [Board Member] Of course.

00:50:42.089 --> 00:50:44.420
- What you said to us in
the following phone calls

00:50:44.420 --> 00:50:45.940
is that it\'s in the attorney\'s hands.

00:50:45.940 --> 00:50:47.696
What has your attorney come up with

00:50:47.696 --> 00:50:51.620
in four and a half years
of reviewing this draft

00:50:51.620 --> 00:50:52.843
of graves protection?

00:50:53.930 --> 00:50:55.290
- There is a working draft

00:50:55.290 --> 00:50:57.900
but it\'s been through at least
three different attorneys.

00:50:57.900 --> 00:51:00.140
- We\'ve been through many supervisors,

00:51:00.140 --> 00:51:01.470
many different board members,

00:51:01.470 --> 00:51:03.570
many different town attorneys,

00:51:03.570 --> 00:51:05.150
and everybody has the same story.

00:51:05.150 --> 00:51:08.020
Oh, we\'re looking into
it and we\'ll, you know,

00:51:08.020 --> 00:51:09.489
pass it by the attorneys.

00:51:09.489 --> 00:51:10.790
- The people that buy the property

00:51:10.790 --> 00:51:11.810
don\'t know the property.

00:51:11.810 --> 00:51:13.460
They only see the value.

00:51:13.460 --> 00:51:14.510
I don\'t blame them for that.

00:51:14.510 --> 00:51:16.430
That\'s all we show them.

00:51:16.430 --> 00:51:19.530
Southampton Town needs
to say there\'s graves.

00:51:19.530 --> 00:51:21.746
If you find one, you\'re moving your house,

00:51:21.746 --> 00:51:23.070
you\'re moving your driveway.
- Okay, but I wanna

00:51:23.070 --> 00:51:24.040
get you there legally.

00:51:24.040 --> 00:51:25.550
- Legally.
- Okay.

00:51:25.550 --> 00:51:27.150
And we\'ve talked about this

00:51:27.150 --> 00:51:29.520
and I know it\'s all
cumbersome and complicated

00:51:29.520 --> 00:51:32.130
and I\'m asking my town attorney
to please pay attention

00:51:32.130 --> 00:51:34.550
so that you can move it through
the town attorney\'s office.

00:51:34.550 --> 00:51:37.660
- It\'s only complicated because
you\'ve never done it before.

00:51:37.660 --> 00:51:38.860
It\'s not complicated.

00:51:38.860 --> 00:51:39.800
This is very simple.

00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:41.350
If you want it done, you do it.

00:51:41.350 --> 00:51:42.930
And anyone who buys property here

00:51:42.930 --> 00:51:46.240
that is part of the gamble they take

00:51:46.240 --> 00:51:47.690
when they buy a piece of property

00:51:47.690 --> 00:51:48.523
in the town of Southampton.

00:51:48.523 --> 00:51:50.793
And it can be done at your next meeting.

00:51:50.793 --> 00:51:51.626
- I understand what

00:51:51.626 --> 00:51:52.459
you\'re saying.
- Well if it\'s that simple,

00:51:52.459 --> 00:51:53.670
we will try it but I\'m telling you,

00:51:53.670 --> 00:51:55.050
I don\'t think it\'s that simple.

00:51:55.050 --> 00:51:56.710
- Now, on private property there\'s a law

00:51:56.710 --> 00:51:59.550
that you can\'t bury a person.

00:51:59.550 --> 00:52:01.680
I don\'t see how it\'s so hard to have a law

00:52:01.680 --> 00:52:04.302
that says you can\'t dig up a person.

00:52:04.302 --> 00:52:06.600
Some things are as simple
as that, they really are.

00:52:06.600 --> 00:52:08.500
- We\'re not going to settle for this

00:52:08.500 --> 00:52:11.730
each and every single
time a grave is unearthed.

00:52:11.730 --> 00:52:13.810
- So within a month we\'re gonna regroup,

00:52:13.810 --> 00:52:15.910
we\'re gonna give our
town attorney some time.

00:52:15.910 --> 00:52:17.110
We will get back to you

00:52:17.110 --> 00:52:19.270
and Becky is, you\'re our main point person

00:52:19.270 --> 00:52:21.770
for heading up the task force.

00:52:49.150 --> 00:52:51.100
- A number of you have come to approach

00:52:51.100 --> 00:52:56.100
the board of Native American
Graves Burial Site Protection.

00:52:57.552 --> 00:52:59.583
- If you all could just, pass it on.

00:53:00.721 --> 00:53:03.770
We\'re on our fourth supervisor since 2003

00:53:03.770 --> 00:53:08.420
and we have not really
gotten too much of anywhere.

00:53:08.420 --> 00:53:10.130
- You\'re saying the owner\'s rights

00:53:10.130 --> 00:53:13.750
are over yours, is that,
presently and you\'re looking to--

00:53:13.750 --> 00:53:16.590
- Yes, go over the rights of
the desecration of the grave.

00:53:16.590 --> 00:53:19.560
- Do we have a committee for relationships

00:53:19.560 --> 00:53:21.700
between the Shinnecock
Nation and the town?

00:53:21.700 --> 00:53:22.730
- No.
- All right.

00:53:22.730 --> 00:53:23.563
Probably is a good idea

00:53:23.563 --> 00:53:26.320
whether it would be twice a year

00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:27.777
or something like that, I don\'t know.

00:53:27.777 --> 00:53:28.610
- I don\'t either

00:53:28.610 --> 00:53:32.550
but in order for us to
accomplish certain things

00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.250
we have to kind of keep it separate.

00:53:36.250 --> 00:53:37.170
- I just wanna make sure,

00:53:37.170 --> 00:53:39.120
today you\'re speaking as a representative

00:53:39.120 --> 00:53:41.470
of the Shinnecock Nation
or as an individual?

00:53:41.470 --> 00:53:44.620
- I am on the Shinnecock
Archeological Advisory Committee,

00:53:44.620 --> 00:53:46.740
the, so I don\'t know what you\'re asking.

00:53:46.740 --> 00:53:47.573
- We just wanna know if this is--

00:53:47.573 --> 00:53:50.850
- Plus I am general counselor.
- Your position today,

00:53:50.850 --> 00:53:53.070
is it an official position

00:53:53.070 --> 00:53:54.930
of the Shinnecock Nation

00:53:54.930 --> 00:53:56.960
or is an individual position?
- I am an official

00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:58.710
representative of the Shinnecock

00:53:58.710 --> 00:54:00.920
Archeological Advisory Committee

00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.830
and I\'m no stranger, maybe
to you all because I predate,

00:54:04.830 --> 00:54:07.530
I don\'t really remember anybody\'s face.

00:54:07.530 --> 00:54:08.540
- So I just wanna make sure

00:54:08.540 --> 00:54:10.147
you\'re speaking on behalf of the nation.

00:54:10.147 --> 00:54:12.350
- [Rebecca] And I have been since 2003

00:54:12.350 --> 00:54:14.000
and it\'s in black and white
right in front of you.

00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.530
Okay, thank you.
- Okay, appreciate it.

00:54:16.530 --> 00:54:18.500
- We think a simple procedure

00:54:18.500 --> 00:54:21.070
to protect these inadvertent discoveries.

00:54:21.070 --> 00:54:22.270
- [Jay] You know what my fear is, right?

00:54:22.270 --> 00:54:23.103
- I know what it is.

00:54:23.103 --> 00:54:24.410
- That a developer, not, you know,

00:54:24.410 --> 00:54:25.980
developers are good people, you know?

00:54:25.980 --> 00:54:30.980
But that if we make the
process too onerous,

00:54:31.010 --> 00:54:32.600
that they\'re not gonna tell us.

00:54:32.600 --> 00:54:33.774
They\'re just, they\'ll simply

00:54:33.774 --> 00:54:35.240
pretend they never saw it.

00:54:35.240 --> 00:54:36.151
- [Rebecca] That\'s what\'s been happening.

00:54:36.151 --> 00:54:36.984
- And so we have to make sure--

00:54:36.984 --> 00:54:38.213
- [Woman] That\'s what\'s been happening.

00:54:38.213 --> 00:54:40.334
- Okay, but there are
remedies for that, all right?

00:54:40.334 --> 00:54:43.564
If you dig up wetlands, don\'t
you have a remedy for that?

00:54:43.564 --> 00:54:44.397
- Yes, yeah, that\'s what I\'m--

00:54:44.397 --> 00:54:46.040
- Okay, so if you dig up a place

00:54:46.040 --> 00:54:48.250
where there are certain
fish that are protected

00:54:48.250 --> 00:54:50.140
or certain trees that are protected

00:54:50.140 --> 00:54:51.370
don\'t you have a remedy

00:54:51.370 --> 00:54:54.730
and it includes potential
criminal prosecution, right?

00:54:54.730 --> 00:54:58.040
Or potential violation or
withdrawal of your permit.

00:54:58.040 --> 00:55:01.140
There are penalties for
all of this misbehavior.

00:55:01.140 --> 00:55:04.490
Now we don\'t, we want
people to do the right thing

00:55:04.490 --> 00:55:08.743
but when they don\'t, there\'s
a consequence to misbehavior.

00:55:09.670 --> 00:55:13.120
- The fear is that graves
are being encountered

00:55:13.120 --> 00:55:15.160
when homes are being excavated?

00:55:15.160 --> 00:55:16.220
- [Harry] Oh, we know that.

00:55:16.220 --> 00:55:17.060
We absolutely know that.

00:55:17.060 --> 00:55:18.730
- And no one\'s being notified?

00:55:18.730 --> 00:55:19.570
- [Harry] No one\'s being notified.

00:55:19.570 --> 00:55:20.790
- Not even the M.E.

00:55:20.790 --> 00:55:21.960
- [Harry] Not even the M.E.

00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:25.260
- Yeah, so I mean, we have
to enforce that somehow.

00:55:25.260 --> 00:55:26.093
- Yeah.
- Why don\'t we look

00:55:26.093 --> 00:55:27.040
at the laws that are on the books.

00:55:27.040 --> 00:55:28.830
John, what are you finding here?

00:55:28.830 --> 00:55:30.690
- You know, this is total news to me

00:55:30.690 --> 00:55:32.750
so I wanna research this and find out

00:55:32.750 --> 00:55:35.790
what we have here as far as the law goes.

00:55:35.790 --> 00:55:37.310
- Isn\'t it just common sense

00:55:37.310 --> 00:55:38.684
if you dig up bones--

00:55:38.684 --> 00:55:41.110
- How come you didn\'t know this

00:55:41.110 --> 00:55:42.218
before when you first came here?

00:55:42.218 --> 00:55:44.180
- You know too, the Tribal
Council has changed too

00:55:44.180 --> 00:55:46.160
at Shinnecock.
- This has nothing to do

00:55:46.160 --> 00:55:47.280
with the Tribal Council.

00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:49.673
This has absolutely nothing
to do with the Tribal Council.

00:55:49.673 --> 00:55:52.756
(bright flute music)

00:56:03.989 --> 00:56:06.406
(soft music)

00:56:45.210 --> 00:56:47.993
- Pesha, can you go hand
me her belt, please?

00:56:50.870 --> 00:56:52.115
Lace \'em up.

00:56:52.115 --> 00:56:52.948
Give me five, give me 10.

00:56:52.948 --> 00:56:54.324
There we go.

00:56:54.324 --> 00:56:58.783
- Oh, check you out.
- Turn this way, let me see.

00:56:59.845 --> 00:57:01.200
- You coming back with more?

00:57:01.200 --> 00:57:03.146
Chief Little Fox, you\'re
in the same space.

00:57:03.146 --> 00:57:03.979
Okay, hi.

00:57:04.868 --> 00:57:05.868
- Mary-Anne.

00:57:21.890 --> 00:57:24.050
- My grandfather was one of the cofounders

00:57:24.050 --> 00:57:26.280
who began the powwow.

00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:29.810
He had a vision that it was going to

00:57:29.810 --> 00:57:31.735
bring the people together.

00:57:31.735 --> 00:57:35.568
(singing in foreign language)

00:57:47.580 --> 00:57:49.150
- From Nassau County to Suffolk

00:57:49.150 --> 00:57:51.920
where a grim discovery
happened in the Hamptons.

00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.730
Human remains found at a construction site

00:57:54.730 --> 00:57:56.097
in Shinnecock Hills.

00:57:56.097 --> 00:57:57.870
Now the remains were taken to the office

00:57:57.870 --> 00:58:00.590
of the Suffolk County Medical Examiner.

00:58:00.590 --> 00:58:03.260
- We became very defensive
when we saw officers

00:58:03.260 --> 00:58:05.580
going down there with shovels and sifters.

00:58:05.580 --> 00:58:07.190
That was very offensive.

00:58:07.190 --> 00:58:08.543
- Yeah, they were
treating it like a crime.

00:58:08.543 --> 00:58:10.360
- They was treating it like a crime scene.

00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:11.650
I didn\'t even wanna pull it out

00:58:11.650 --> 00:58:14.980
because I\'m afraid that
I\'m gonna damage something.

00:58:14.980 --> 00:58:18.950
- I don\'t wanna see it turn
into a long thing that--

00:58:18.950 --> 00:58:19.783
- I\'m sorry.

00:58:19.783 --> 00:58:22.739
- As an archeologically sensitive site

00:58:22.739 --> 00:58:24.850
if it meets CPF, we don\'t know yet.

00:58:24.850 --> 00:58:26.460
- Construction is being halted

00:58:26.460 --> 00:58:28.450
in parts of Southampton this morning.

00:58:28.450 --> 00:58:30.370
The state\'s asking Southampton Town

00:58:30.370 --> 00:58:33.431
to consult with members of
the Shinnecock Indian Nation.

00:58:33.431 --> 00:58:35.848
(soft music)

00:58:37.970 --> 00:58:41.310
- It\'s very hard to
see what the profile is

00:58:41.310 --> 00:58:45.970
because it\'s all different
because it\'s all been disturbed.

00:58:45.970 --> 00:58:48.160
So things are falling
down on top of each other.

00:58:48.160 --> 00:58:52.220
I can\'t get a good look at
what the soil even looks like.

00:58:52.220 --> 00:58:54.510
Charcoal down there
falling out of the wall.

00:58:54.510 --> 00:58:55.499
- [Lance] Yeah, it looks
like it\'s charcoal.

00:58:55.499 --> 00:58:57.390
- Which could have something
to do with the burial.

00:58:57.390 --> 00:58:58.370
- [Lance] Looks like it, looks like--

00:58:58.370 --> 00:59:03.370
- You could probably date,
do carbon-14 on the charcoal.

00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.720
Typically you find fresh water, so.

00:59:05.720 --> 00:59:07.330
- It\'s right here.
- It\'s right there.

00:59:07.330 --> 00:59:10.581
- Shinnecock Bay was fresh
water until the hurricane.

00:59:10.581 --> 00:59:13.164
(vociferating)

00:59:14.040 --> 00:59:16.230
- Members of the Shinnecock
Tribe in Southampton

00:59:16.230 --> 00:59:19.220
are fighting to protect the
graves of their ancestors.

00:59:19.220 --> 00:59:21.330
Rebecca Genia tells me she believes

00:59:21.330 --> 00:59:23.560
the remains are likely
three centuries old.

00:59:23.560 --> 00:59:25.790
- The Suffolk County
Homicide kept telling us

00:59:25.790 --> 00:59:28.840
we have to make sure
it\'s not an MS-13 murder.

00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:32.303
So it was kinda like almost
insulting from day one.

00:59:48.155 --> 00:59:50.720
Konstantin, the home owner,

00:59:50.720 --> 00:59:53.970
unearthing this grave, he
did not take very lightly

00:59:53.970 --> 00:59:56.070
and he comes from a country

00:59:56.070 --> 00:59:59.660
where there\'s war torn, mass burials.

00:59:59.660 --> 01:00:04.163
So he was very sensitive to this site.

01:00:07.090 --> 01:00:09.530
We asked the Community Preservation Fund

01:00:09.530 --> 01:00:11.630
to possibly make the offer

01:00:11.630 --> 01:00:12.810
so we can put it back

01:00:12.810 --> 01:00:15.972
as much as a natural
state as we possibly can,

01:00:15.972 --> 01:00:20.013
you know, after all of this destruction.

01:00:35.830 --> 01:00:36.663
- Why is that?

01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:42.820
You guys promised that you
were gonna take care of this

01:00:42.820 --> 01:00:45.010
and now you\'re canceling the meeting.

01:00:45.010 --> 01:00:46.560
You know, he\'s in a bad position.

01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:49.570
Now he\'s having problems with his lender

01:00:49.570 --> 01:00:52.060
\'cause his lender saw this in the paper.

01:00:52.060 --> 01:00:54.630
So, you know, now they
could call the loan on him

01:00:54.630 --> 01:00:57.140
\'cause he hasn\'t started, he stopped.

01:00:57.140 --> 01:00:59.540
You know, I don\'t know
what to do at this point.

01:01:00.640 --> 01:01:01.473
All right, bye.

01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:04.390
The day you were there,

01:01:04.390 --> 01:01:06.850
you heard everything you needed to hear

01:01:06.850 --> 01:01:08.567
when they said \"What,
do you want us to buy

01:01:08.567 --> 01:01:10.410
\"every piece that had bones on it?\"

01:01:10.410 --> 01:01:11.930
I mean, you heard.

01:01:11.930 --> 01:01:13.330
We should\'ve known in the beginning

01:01:13.330 --> 01:01:14.380
where that was going.

01:01:15.330 --> 01:01:18.973
- [Konstantin] Call Becky, I
need their blessing to start.

01:01:22.779 --> 01:01:24.980
- Hey, how are ya?

01:01:24.980 --> 01:01:26.770
They canceled the meeting.

01:01:26.770 --> 01:01:28.490
They don\'t wanna get in a battle right now

01:01:28.490 --> 01:01:31.310
\'cause they know the powwow\'s going on.

01:01:31.310 --> 01:01:32.630
And what they\'re gonna do is

01:01:32.630 --> 01:01:34.210
they\'ll say there\'s not enough money

01:01:34.210 --> 01:01:35.780
or didn\'t appraise high enough

01:01:35.780 --> 01:01:37.650
and they\'re gonna try to throw it

01:01:37.650 --> 01:01:39.960
as Konstantin, the bad builder.

01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:41.520
Meanwhile, he\'s willing to sell

01:01:41.520 --> 01:01:43.653
for exactly what he has into it.

01:01:45.020 --> 01:01:48.760
I mean, it\'s probably half
a million dollars, you know,

01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:52.878
and they\'ve spent billions,
almost, in that fund.

01:01:52.878 --> 01:01:55.810
- [Rebecca] I can feel
it slipping already.

01:01:55.810 --> 01:01:58.650
- I will just take
excavator there tomorrow

01:01:58.650 --> 01:02:01.293
and if it\'s nothing
resolved then we\'ll start.

01:02:01.293 --> 01:02:03.710
(soft music)

01:02:07.980 --> 01:02:09.980
- Their offer is what it is

01:02:09.980 --> 01:02:14.980
and there\'s still $185,000 that
he\'s put into this project.

01:02:17.260 --> 01:02:18.700
Yes.

01:02:18.700 --> 01:02:20.150
That\'s the amount he\'s short.

01:02:22.640 --> 01:02:24.920
You know, we\'re trying to do this.

01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.210
I need support from everybody to call him

01:02:28.210 --> 01:02:30.670
and say, look we are
going to raise this money.

01:02:30.670 --> 01:02:32.623
We\'re gonna do this.

01:02:36.490 --> 01:02:39.880
Konstantine wants to come back Tuesday

01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:41.200
and finish his project.

01:02:41.200 --> 01:02:43.300
The worse case scenario,

01:02:43.300 --> 01:02:46.110
let\'s say he\'s allowed
to come back in here

01:02:46.110 --> 01:02:47.190
and he said, okay--

01:02:47.190 --> 01:02:48.370
- I will monitor.

01:02:48.370 --> 01:02:50.611
- Okay.
- I can watch.

01:02:50.611 --> 01:02:51.930
The problem with monitoring

01:02:51.930 --> 01:02:55.240
is the backhoe gets to
it before you can see it.

01:02:55.240 --> 01:02:59.519
So even if you say stop, which they stop,

01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.580
things are already disturbed.

01:03:01.580 --> 01:03:02.413
- Right.

01:03:11.032 --> 01:03:11.957
You know, it is an emergency

01:03:11.957 --> 01:03:13.700
and the last text I sent you

01:03:13.700 --> 01:03:15.824
I said why can\'t we purchase the land

01:03:15.824 --> 01:03:18.483
and put in land, into trust.

01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.820
It\'s ours, we can own it
and put it into trust.

01:03:22.820 --> 01:03:24.800
- My question is who
will control the land?

01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:25.633
- Us.

01:03:25.633 --> 01:03:28.440
We will draw up a contract where
we\'re stewards of the land.

01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.410
They don\'t want another thing to do.

01:03:30.410 --> 01:03:32.760
They\'ve proposed this in the past to us

01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.840
and not your board of trustees
but other boards of trustees.

01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:37.210
Please read this, please read this,

01:03:37.210 --> 01:03:38.400
please read this, please.

01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:39.810
A year, two, three.

01:03:39.810 --> 01:03:42.410
Come Tuesday I gotta beg that guy

01:03:42.410 --> 01:03:44.600
to come here instead of going over there

01:03:44.600 --> 01:03:46.940
to start developing to come here

01:03:46.940 --> 01:03:50.139
so he can hear it from
someone else besides me.

01:03:50.139 --> 01:03:50.972
- Okay.

01:03:50.972 --> 01:03:52.442
All right, we gotta find some more money.

01:03:52.442 --> 01:03:53.275
- Yep.

01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.950
We\'re trying to get the man all the money.

01:04:01.950 --> 01:04:03.830
He needs all of his money back

01:04:03.830 --> 01:04:06.433
and he deserves to have
all of his money back.

01:04:08.010 --> 01:04:10.640
And that should be no question.

01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:13.870
But it\'s always got to
be the native people

01:04:13.870 --> 01:04:17.225
who stand up and begin something good.

01:04:17.225 --> 01:04:19.080
(baby babbles)

01:04:19.080 --> 01:04:21.497
(soft music)

01:04:30.148 --> 01:04:33.350
(rhythmic drum music)

01:04:33.350 --> 01:04:35.750
- Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

01:04:35.750 --> 01:04:37.310
Once again, thank you all for coming

01:04:37.310 --> 01:04:39.560
to our lands here at Shinnecock.

01:04:39.560 --> 01:04:42.410
Ladies and gentlemen, we
have a situation going on.

01:04:42.410 --> 01:04:43.940
Right down the road from here

01:04:43.940 --> 01:04:46.180
there is a piece of land that the remains

01:04:46.180 --> 01:04:48.400
of one of our ancestors was found.

01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.570
The leadership of the
Shinnecock Indian Nation

01:04:50.570 --> 01:04:53.330
feels very strongly
that this piece of land

01:04:53.330 --> 01:04:55.300
should be returned to the tribe.

01:04:55.300 --> 01:04:58.320
We call upon you to stand with us.

01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.629
- I\'ll have relatives going around

01:05:00.629 --> 01:05:03.430
passing out flyers with that information

01:05:03.430 --> 01:05:05.149
to see how you can contribute.

01:05:05.149 --> 01:05:09.100
(audience applauding)

01:05:09.100 --> 01:05:10.970
- Members of our Historic Preservation

01:05:10.970 --> 01:05:12.750
and Repatriations Committee

01:05:12.750 --> 01:05:15.040
has been trying to get them

01:05:15.040 --> 01:05:18.800
to put legislation and policy in place

01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:21.800
for incidents just like
this and what transpired.

01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:23.290
So they\'re aware of the long history

01:05:23.290 --> 01:05:25.540
of us going at it with them

01:05:26.670 --> 01:05:31.670
and so, for me, it\'s really
about sticking to your word.

01:05:51.202 --> 01:05:53.730
- We\'re here today to pray.

01:05:53.730 --> 01:05:58.730
So today we are gonna ask that
the ancestors please help us.

01:05:59.160 --> 01:06:03.080
(speaking foreign language)

01:06:03.080 --> 01:06:05.290
- Thank you, Creator, for this land.

01:06:05.290 --> 01:06:07.200
Thank you for our ancestors.

01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:11.010
We pray today, Creator, that
you can be with all of us

01:06:11.010 --> 01:06:12.310
however this goes.

01:06:13.318 --> 01:06:17.320
And I pray that our energy, our ancestors,

01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:21.360
feel strong and they feel
honored and respected.

01:06:24.830 --> 01:06:26.620
I pray that any division

01:06:26.620 --> 01:06:29.137
that our tribes have created

01:06:29.137 --> 01:06:32.950
and this town has and this government has,

01:06:32.950 --> 01:06:35.080
I pray that we can understand, Creator,

01:06:35.080 --> 01:06:38.536
that this is unhealthy for all of us.

01:06:38.536 --> 01:06:40.953
(soft music)

01:07:23.961 --> 01:07:24.794
(gavel banging)

01:07:24.794 --> 01:07:25.720
- [Board Member] Suffolk County Tax map

01:07:25.720 --> 01:07:29.520
number 900-23232 to lot 35.

01:07:29.520 --> 01:07:33.570
- If the town decides to
buy this property today,

01:07:33.570 --> 01:07:37.410
it\'s a very historic
time for our relationship

01:07:37.410 --> 01:07:39.540
between Shinnecock and Southampton.

01:07:39.540 --> 01:07:42.600
- We are concerned about our
house on a private street

01:07:42.600 --> 01:07:46.080
that we do not lose the value of our home.

01:07:46.080 --> 01:07:47.450
- We are doing our best.

01:07:47.450 --> 01:07:49.270
That\'s very difficult sometimes

01:07:49.270 --> 01:07:51.143
when your emotions are struck.

01:07:52.200 --> 01:07:57.200
We hope that we all can uphold our word.

01:07:57.200 --> 01:07:58.860
- Thank you for meeting with us

01:07:58.860 --> 01:08:01.440
when our tribal leadership
has called for meetings.

01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:03.160
You know, this is not going to be

01:08:03.160 --> 01:08:05.460
the last time this happens.

01:08:05.460 --> 01:08:09.660
So I really hope that there are policies

01:08:09.660 --> 01:08:11.170
and protocols put in place

01:08:11.170 --> 01:08:13.270
for the next time.

01:08:13.270 --> 01:08:14.973
- Anyone else on the motion?

01:08:16.032 --> 01:08:16.865
I\'ll call the vote.

01:08:16.865 --> 01:08:17.892
All in favor?

01:08:17.892 --> 01:08:18.950
- [All] I.

01:08:18.950 --> 01:08:21.280
- Any opposed, opposition?

01:08:21.280 --> 01:08:22.819
It is approved.

01:08:22.819 --> 01:08:23.792
(audience applauding)

01:08:23.792 --> 01:08:26.375
(bright music)

01:08:36.810 --> 01:08:37.786
- So clearly a win.

01:08:37.786 --> 01:08:40.990
- More to come, more to come.

01:08:40.990 --> 01:08:43.090
- We will acquire this property.

01:08:43.090 --> 01:08:46.730
It will be protected and
it\'s not gonna stop here.

01:08:46.730 --> 01:08:51.730
So I felt a sense of like we
had almost turned a corner,

01:08:52.610 --> 01:08:55.193
that this was part of a healing process.

01:08:56.410 --> 01:08:59.120
- No more accidental unearthing.

01:08:59.120 --> 01:09:01.500
There\'s no such thing.

01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:03.681
I\'d do a jig but my legs hurt.

01:09:03.681 --> 01:09:05.764
(laughs)

01:09:08.420 --> 01:09:09.880
Our goal is to purchase

01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.930
every single vacant lot in the hills

01:09:12.930 --> 01:09:15.343
and protect for all time.

01:09:17.228 --> 01:09:20.145
- Talk to you soon.
- See you later.

01:09:23.458 --> 01:09:25.375
- We\'ll be at the fire.

01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:30.410
- [Rebecca] When people realize

01:09:30.410 --> 01:09:32.810
you take care of your ancestors,

01:09:32.810 --> 01:09:34.580
you take care of the earth,

01:09:34.580 --> 01:09:36.600
good things will happen.

01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:39.103
That\'s what I believe
with my heart and soul.

01:09:48.730 --> 01:09:51.570
- [Corey] Looking at the history
of the Shinnecock struggle,

01:09:51.570 --> 01:09:54.630
it\'s their struggle that gives us a sense

01:09:54.630 --> 01:09:56.540
of what the future might look like.

01:09:56.540 --> 01:09:58.860
That it\'s their continued desire

01:09:58.860 --> 01:10:00.900
for dignity, for recognition,

01:10:00.900 --> 01:10:04.810
and for, not even a return of
the land to their ownership,

01:10:04.810 --> 01:10:08.040
but a return of the land to
the spirit of their history.

01:10:08.040 --> 01:10:10.080
A collective ownership of collaboration

01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:12.320
of human survival and subsistence

01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:14.480
in a sustainable way with nature

01:10:14.480 --> 01:10:16.070
that really is the vision

01:10:16.070 --> 01:10:18.070
for what a future world might look like.

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- My name is Rebecca Genia.

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I\'m calling from the
Shinnecock Reservation.

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The Grace Protection group here,

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we would like to have
a work session meeting,

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you know, get on the agenda

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so we can talk about the
graves protection laws.

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We haven\'t accomplished that mission yet.

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(soft music)

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(mellow music)