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(Carrie)
As far as the Western Shoshone\'s

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been here in this valley,
they\'ve always been here

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from forever, I guess.

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As the creator went by,
he planted his children.

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And it tells us our duties
of what we\'re to do

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as humans here on Earth.

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Most of the important things,
it was the land,

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the water, and the air
and the sun to us.

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Each one of those
represent life.

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And if you don\'t have
one of those,

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there will be no life.

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[woman singing
in native language]

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(Steenburgen)
In 1863,

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the United States
was embroiled in civil war

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and needed safe passage
across Western Shoshone lands

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to get to the gold fields
in California

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to subsidize their war.

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So the United States
and the Western Shoshone

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signed the Treaty of Ruby Valley,

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a treaty of peace
and friendship.

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The Western Shoshone never
forfeited any of their land.

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Carrie and Mary Dann
are Western Shoshone sisters

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who live and ranch
outside Crescent Valley

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in north central Nevada.

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Their ranch is off a long,
rutted dirt road

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literally in the middle
of nowhere.

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They have always grazed their livestock
on the open range

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outside their ranch.

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That range
is part of 60-million acres

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recognized as Western Shoshone land

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in the Treaty of Ruby Valley.

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In 1973,
the Bureau of Land Management

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informed the Danns that their animals
were trespassing,

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trespassing on United States
public land without a permit.

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That set off a dispute
between the Dann sisters

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and the United States

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that swept to the United States
Supreme Court and beyond.

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(Mary)
I was out riding.

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And then when I came back,
one of my brothers told me,

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\"There\'s a BLM guy
waiting for you.\"

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So I unsaddled,
and I asked him to come in,

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offered him coffee.

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He didn\'t want coffee
so he just,

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\"Did you know
you\'re trespassing?\"

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I says, \"No, I\'m not.\"

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And he told me I was.

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Then I went and got my map,
and I showed it to him,

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you know,
that I\'m within that boundary.

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And he looked at it and,

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\"Well, this is a large area.\"

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I says, \"Yes, it is, and I\'m not
over the boundary yet.

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\"If I had gone over
onto Paiute land,

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then I would say
I was trespassing,\" I told him.

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So he says,
\"Well, why don\'t you come up

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\"to an advisory board meeting,

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and we might
work something out for you.\"

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I said
I wasn\'t going to go up there.

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But I should\'ve told him,

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\"You\'re the one
that\'s trespassing.\"

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But I never thought that way
at that time.

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(Carrie)
Up to 1973,

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you know, we never had problems
with our neighbors.

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I think we have coexisted
peacefully with them.

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And that was what
the Treaty of Ruby Valley was about.

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It\'s called peace
and friendship.

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I think it\'s really important
for people to understand

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that you\'re supposed to share.

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You share the Earth,
because the Earth is common.

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We hold that in common
with all life.

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Not bad.
Not bad.

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Just make it real brown.

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(Steenburgen)
In 1974,

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the United States sued
Mary and Carrie Dann for trespass.

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They based their suit
on a stipulation

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by the Indian Claims Commission,
a federal agency,

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that stated in 1962,

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\"The Western Shoshone
had lost its land

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to the United States
by gradual encroachment.\"

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The Western Shoshone
were not permitted to testify,

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and the Treaty of Ruby Valley
was never mentioned.

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(Coulter)
The Indian Claims Commission

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accepted the idea
that the Western Shoshone

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lost their land
by gradual encroachment.

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Well, nobody else in the world

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loses land
by gradual encroachment.

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That\'s like saying a trespasser
gains title to your house

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by trespassing on your yard.

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It\'s nonsense.

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(Carrie)
The land is very important to us.

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It is very sacred
to the Western Shoshone people.

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It represents life.

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And to take our land
is to take our life.

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Everything had a prayer
that went with it.

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And whatever they took
from the land, from the Earth,

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they certainly have some type
of little family ceremony

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thanking the Earth
for the things

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that she\'s going to give you
and things like that.

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They lived with a prayer.

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They\'re very spiritual people.

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That\'s a leek too.

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Oh, look how big they are.

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Oh, my goodness.

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Too soft?

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No, they\'re ready.

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When you cook them in cones,
I bet they\'re ready, Mary.

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They\'re full.

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You know, it takes forever
for pine nut to grow.

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(Carrie)
There\'s spirits all over.

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All life has spirit,

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whether it\'s plant life,
animal life,

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bird life, fish life.

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And our grandma used to tell us,

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if you go out somewhere,
you\'re never lonesome,

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because you are among
the children of the Earth.

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Every food you get,
from a grain to an animal,

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they all have life.

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And some people say,

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\"Well, I\'m a vegetarian
because I don\'t want to take life.\"

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Every time you eat
a grain of rice, a grain of wheat,

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you\'re eating life,

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life that grain
has given to you.

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But don\'t waste it.

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Use it.

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Animals are given to you
for you to take their life.

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You give thanks for that life
that\'s given to you

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so that you can be healthy.

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Don\'t cut yourself.

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Well, that\'s a lot of blood.

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You don\'t worry about blood.

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You\'re going to become a hunter.

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Grandma, I\'m not going
to be a hunter.

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You\'re not going to be a hunter?

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What the hell
you going to be, then?

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Pilot.

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A pilot?

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[speaking native language]

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We must be hunters.

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Okay.

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(Carrie)
You\'ve got to use something

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so that the creator knows that
you enjoy what he has given you

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and that
he\'s going to give you more.

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(Steenburgen)
In 1979,

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the Indian Claims Commission
stipulated that 1872

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was when the Western Shoshone
lost their land.

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And based on 1872 prices,

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they allotted $26 million
for the loss of 24 million acres.

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The Western Shoshone
refused to accept payment

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for their mother Earth.

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It was accepted
by the Secretary of the Interior

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as a trustee
for the Western Shoshone people.

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The Secretary of the Interior,

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to me,
has a conflict of interest.

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It serves the United States.

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At the same time, it denies us
our rights to our land.

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As a trustee,
it\'s supposed to see

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that our rights are protected.

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You better see
that it\'s straight, Mary.

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It\'s tough now.

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(Carrie)
We live in two worlds.

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We see the Western civilized
society on one side,

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and we see our own rules
on which we should live by.

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And it\'s hard because, to us,
the real world is here.

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We are still of the old world,

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because we tried the best we can

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to live a spiritual
and cultural life.

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Good enough.

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Are you sure?

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Are you sure?

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Seems even closer
than it was the last time.

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Yeah, see it was -

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I thought you told me
it was out that way.

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Go to - no.

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[speaking native language]

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I already told you.

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All except
for that one post down there.

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I don\'t know
what kind of eyes you\'ve got,

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but...

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Jesus, man, every damn post
that\'s gone in is wrong.

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Looks straight to me.

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[speaking native language]

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It\'s the last time.

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No more.

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That\'s the last time.

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I\'m not going back there
no more.

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Good enough.

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[speaking native language]

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(Carrie)
And I find it quite appalling

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that a country
like the United States

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is legitimizing the theft
of the Western Shoshone land.

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It is offering us money

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for something
that we have no desire to sell

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and something we cannot sell

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because of its sacredness to us.

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I look at that
as spiritual genocide

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against the Western Shoshone people,

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that believe the Earth
is its mother.

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It\'s a death that nobody
will ever understand.

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It\'s a spiritual death.

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(Hankins)
The U.S. government

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did sign a treaty

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of peace and friendship
with the Western Shoshone.

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That treaty did not cede land
to the U.S. government.

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Since the treaty was signed,

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there has been
substantial immigration

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of people into northern
and central Nevada.

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Many of those people who came

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settled on lands
that were ancestral homelands

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of the Shoshone people.

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(Carrie)
We didn\'t feel like we were

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impacting the United States
in any way because of,

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you know,
the Treaty of Ruby Valley.

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It did not cede land
to the United States,

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so therefore,
it\'s still Western Shoshone land.

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We never went to the BLM
for a grazing permit.

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We never asked
the BLM for anything.

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We have never asked
the federal government

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to do anything for us.

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But they denied us the use
of our own land.

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And even worse today,

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they deny us the right to make
a living off our own land.

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(Fishel)
I first met Mary and Carrie -

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I was coming out to their ranch

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with the attorney
that introduced me to this case.

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You know, I\'d been told
by people who were involved,

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like, in the \'80s, you know,

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at the Senate
Indian Affairs Committee

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and others that say,

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\"You\'re working
on the Western Shoshone case?

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Good luck.\"

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So I knew there weren\'t going
to be a lot of people lining up

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to help them out.

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You know,
we were sitting there in D.C.

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And I watched
the Department of Interior,

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who\'s supposed to be the trustee
for the Western Shoshone,

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get up there and say
that the treaty

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had been abrogated
by this commission.

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That\'s preposterous.

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I was just so angry
that people can get up there

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and just abuse
their power like that

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against people with nothing

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and people who are so honorable.

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And Carrie
was sitting across from me.

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She says to me,

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\"So what do you think
of our trustee now, Julie?\"

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And I said,
\"Fire him.\"

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She said, \"We never hired him
in the first place.

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How are we supposed
to fire him?\"

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And I was like,
\"Oh, man.\"

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And I just
looked at these people,

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all these Shoshone people
at this table,

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and they were laughing
and eating.

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And I thought,
\"These people are incredible.\"

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And I thought,
\"This is their life.

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All they\'ve ever known
is this injustice.\"

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(Coulter)
The United States law

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says that Indian nations
are in a state

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of permanent involuntary
trusteeship

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subject to the federal government

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with no opportunity
to free themselves

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from that trusteeship.

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Nobody else in the United States
is treated like that

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except for infants,
disabled, and insane people...

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and Indian tribes.

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It\'s, frankly, in violation
of the United States Constitution.

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Why does Congress do it?

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Well, because they can.

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Why did the United States courts
put up with it?

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I don\'t know.

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We attempted to challenge

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the Indian Claims
Commission proceedings

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in five different cases.

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When we argued these cases

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and said,
\"This is unconstitutional.

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\"This is discriminatory.

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\"This violates the equal
protection clause,

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the fifth amendment and so on,\"

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they simply wouldn\'t hear of it.

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(Sewall)
The Supreme Court,

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taking a very narrow view,

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looked at the fact that
the Secretary of the Interior,

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as trustee over
the Western Shoshone people,

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had accepted this award
on their behalf

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and said, \"Well, it\'s clear
that the Shoshone people

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\"have been paid under
the Indian Claims Commission Act,

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\"and therefore, they have no
right to come before this court

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and argue that they
have title to these lands.\"

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So you have the government
taking money out of one pocket

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and putting into another pocket

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and stating
that justice has been done

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and the Shoshone people
have spoken.

00:16:12.999 --> 00:16:14.375
(Cheyfitz)
Federal Indian law

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is a separate body of law
that governs Indian people.

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And it is a colonial body of law

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that essentially declared
that the U.S. government

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held absolute title
to Indian land.

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And it declared
it under something

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called the Doctrine of Discovery,

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which essentially gave Europeans
the right by virtue

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of being Christian Europeans
to take over this land.

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That doctrine has not been
removed from federal Indian law

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to this day.

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This is something Carrie Dann
has stressed over and over.

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And I agree with her entirely.

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We have not faced up
to our history,

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certainly not the history
of stealing land from Indians

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and the current condition
of Indians.

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We don\'t like
to use the word \"genocide\"

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with what happened
to the Indians,

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but it was a genocide.

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There were 4 million
to 5 million native peoples

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in the continental
United States in 1492.

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By the end of the 19th century,

00:17:03.959 --> 00:17:07.959
there were 250,000
native people left

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because of genocidal practices.

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What Americans need
to wrap their minds around

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is that because something
is legal -

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Hitler had laws to destroy
the Jewish people,

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the Nuremberg Laws, for example.

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Because something is legal
does not mean that it\'s just.

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(Hankins)
The major issue the BLM

00:17:31.250 --> 00:17:34.584
has had
with the Dann sisters is,

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not only have
they been in trespass,

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but more specifically,

00:17:38.918 --> 00:17:41.417
they have been
running so many animals,

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and the range land has become
significantly degraded

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over the last 10 or 15 years.

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(Carrie)
Why are they accusing us

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of degradating the land?

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We\'re not degradating the land.

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You go out here and look
at the land that we used

00:17:58.167 --> 00:17:59.501
for our animals.

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And yet you go ten miles that way,
ten miles that way,

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ten miles that way,
and ten miles that way,

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you\'re going to find
the same condition.

00:18:08.125 --> 00:18:09.709
(Mary)
Yes.

00:18:09.751 --> 00:18:11.167
(Carrie)
And we weren\'t overgrazing.

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The overgrazing
is not the issue.

00:18:13.501 --> 00:18:14.751
The issue is the land.

00:18:14.792 --> 00:18:17.083
They want their resources.

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We have made numerous overtures
to the Danns.

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We have asked them
if they would be willing

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to get a grazing permit.

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And their position
has always been,

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\"These are Shoshone lands,

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and we aren\'t
going to work with the BLM.\"

00:18:35.959 --> 00:18:40.501
They\'re trying to address
land rights or treaty rights,

00:18:40.542 --> 00:18:42.709
and their view of that
and the U.S. government\'s view

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is different.

00:18:43.999 --> 00:18:45.667
(Herman)
Last year,

00:18:45.709 --> 00:18:48.000
the Bureau of Land Management,
which is the BLM,

00:18:48.042 --> 00:18:51.834
under the argument that
the Danns were trespassing

00:18:51.876 --> 00:18:52.998
on their own land,

00:18:52.999 --> 00:18:55.334
came in and confiscated
over 500 head of horses

00:18:55.375 --> 00:18:58.626
and took over 200 head of cattle
from their land.

00:18:58.667 --> 00:18:59.998
(Hankins)
In the case

00:18:59.999 --> 00:19:02.250
of impounding of livestock,

00:19:02.292 --> 00:19:06.918
we have given them
numerous notices

00:19:06.959 --> 00:19:10.876
that if they
would not work with us,

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that could be the consequence.

00:19:13.918 --> 00:19:16.626
Actually, there\'s been three
attempts on the horses

00:19:16.667 --> 00:19:17.834
and two on the cows.

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In April of 1992,
a single BLM agent

00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:23.918
with contract cowboys
attempted to round up

00:19:23.959 --> 00:19:25.876
a bunch of their cattle.

00:19:25.918 --> 00:19:28.998
Those animals are being driven
not by my people

00:19:28.999 --> 00:19:31.501
but by the Bureau
of Land Management,

00:19:31.542 --> 00:19:34.959
supposedly my trustee.

00:19:34.999 --> 00:19:38.998
These are Western Shoshone
cattle cows.

00:19:38.999 --> 00:19:40.959
I have a valid claim,

00:19:40.999 --> 00:19:44.959
but the Secretary
of the Interior will not allow it.

00:19:44.999 --> 00:19:48.792
I have a right
to protect my livestock.

00:19:48.834 --> 00:19:49.959
I can\'t allow you to -

00:19:49.999 --> 00:19:52.000
You\'re hurting me.

00:19:52.042 --> 00:19:54.501
If you don\'t mind...

00:19:54.542 --> 00:19:55.999
Lee, you\'re hurting me.

00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:57.542
You\'re hurting me, god damn it.

00:19:57.584 --> 00:19:58.584
You\'re hurting me.

00:19:58.626 --> 00:20:00.584
Let me go.

00:20:00.626 --> 00:20:01.792
I said,
\"Let me go.\"

00:20:01.834 --> 00:20:04.459
Carrie?

00:20:04.501 --> 00:20:05.501
Carrie, please.

00:20:05.542 --> 00:20:07.501
These are my livestock.

00:20:07.542 --> 00:20:09.209
You\'re hurting my arm, Lee.

00:20:09.250 --> 00:20:10.998
You\'re hurting me.

00:20:10.999 --> 00:20:13.459
You\'re hurting me.

00:20:13.501 --> 00:20:14.501
Carrie,
I cannot -

00:20:14.542 --> 00:20:17.501
You\'re hurting me, god damn it!

00:20:17.542 --> 00:20:19.501
You\'re hurting me.

00:20:22.999 --> 00:20:25.042
(Sewall)
And that was successfully thwarted

00:20:25.083 --> 00:20:28.542
when Carrie Dann
climbed into the loading shoot

00:20:28.584 --> 00:20:29.584
and wouldn\'t get out,

00:20:29.626 --> 00:20:34.042
thereby preventing them
from loading it.

00:20:34.083 --> 00:20:36.209
They didn\'t have
a bunch of agents on hand,

00:20:36.250 --> 00:20:42.667
so they decided to let
the cows go at that point.

00:20:42.709 --> 00:20:45.918
And then unfortunately,
the following November of 1992,

00:20:45.959 --> 00:20:50.083
they came in quite heavily
with force and helicopters

00:20:50.125 --> 00:20:51.250
and were here -

00:20:51.292 --> 00:20:53.709
I believe they were here
for almost a week

00:20:53.751 --> 00:20:58.375
doing a roundup in which
they confiscated over 200 horses.

00:20:59.959 --> 00:21:02.000
Come on up.

00:21:02.042 --> 00:21:03.417
(Carrie)
That\'s when Cliff

00:21:03.459 --> 00:21:04.998
poured gas all over himself

00:21:04.999 --> 00:21:06.999
threatening
to set himself on fire.

00:21:10.250 --> 00:21:12.999
Okay, now you guys can shoot me.

00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.501
Yeah, we\'re not going
to shoot anybody.

00:21:15.542 --> 00:21:18.375
Let\'s get that clear
right now, okay?

00:21:18.417 --> 00:21:19.542
Somebody\'s going to die

00:21:19.584 --> 00:21:21.375
or them cows
are going to be released.

00:21:21.417 --> 00:21:23.217
That\'s a federal thing,
and that\'s between you

00:21:23.250 --> 00:21:25.417
and the Bureau of Land Management
and the Department of the Interior.

00:21:25.459 --> 00:21:28.998
I want to proceed
down this county road.

00:21:28.999 --> 00:21:29.999
Well, we\'ll let you by.

00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:31.417
Okay, and...

00:21:31.459 --> 00:21:33.375
Move the truck.

00:21:33.417 --> 00:21:36.584
Let the man pass.

00:21:36.626 --> 00:21:38.626
[explosion]

00:21:42.209 --> 00:21:45.209
[frantic yelling]

00:21:52.667 --> 00:21:53.667
(man)
Get him down!

00:21:53.709 --> 00:21:55.667
Get him down!

00:21:55.709 --> 00:21:57.626
Get him down!

00:22:01.626 --> 00:22:03.918
Let me go, I said.

00:22:03.959 --> 00:22:06.626
Stop right now, Carrie.

00:22:06.667 --> 00:22:09.459
(woman)
We don\'t want you to get...

00:22:09.501 --> 00:22:10.959
Let me go.

00:22:10.999 --> 00:22:13.334
(woman)
We don\'t want you to -

00:22:13.375 --> 00:22:15.998
You know, you\'re going
to crush my heart.

00:22:15.999 --> 00:22:18.876
Let me go!
Ouch.

00:22:18.918 --> 00:22:21.999
How dare you guys
do that to that man.

00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:24.167
He\'s got blood all over him.

00:22:24.209 --> 00:22:27.626
Totally wrong.

00:22:56.959 --> 00:23:00.834
(Sewall) The BLM came in here
last September.

00:23:00.876 --> 00:23:03.250
They came in before sunrise.

00:23:03.292 --> 00:23:06.417
Around 4:15,
4:30 in the morning,

00:23:06.459 --> 00:23:07.834
we see off on the horizon,

00:23:07.876 --> 00:23:10.792
we see all these lines
of headlights coming

00:23:10.834 --> 00:23:14.999
as well as supporting semis,
fuel trucks, helicopters.

00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.918
And it\'s just dozens
and dozens of armed agents,

00:23:18.959 --> 00:23:21.876
bulletproof vests,
automatic pistols.

00:23:21.918 --> 00:23:24.999
And we stayed there
from about 10:00 in the morning

00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:29.083
till about 1:00 or 2:00
in the afternoon just waiting.

00:23:29.125 --> 00:23:30.584
And that\'s all we did is wait.

00:23:30.626 --> 00:23:34.792
We hit one roadblock
after the other.

00:23:34.834 --> 00:23:36.501
Basically,
we just want to make sure

00:23:36.542 --> 00:23:40.334
our animals are okay,
that they\'re not being run too hard,

00:23:40.375 --> 00:23:44.459
that they\'re getting water,
that they\'re treated humanely.

00:23:44.501 --> 00:23:46.667
But it took
the Eureka County sheriff

00:23:46.709 --> 00:23:49.167
to pull up like a crazy man.

00:23:49.209 --> 00:23:50.998
He just skidded to a halt.

00:23:50.999 --> 00:23:52.042
Jumped out of the car.

00:23:52.083 --> 00:23:53.250
His arms are waving,

00:23:53.292 --> 00:23:54.709
and he was yelling at people,

00:23:54.751 --> 00:23:55.959
\"The road\'s got to be clear.

00:23:55.999 --> 00:23:56.999
The road\'s
got to be clear.\"

00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.501
Get it out of there.

00:23:58.542 --> 00:24:02.417
Get it out of the road.

00:24:02.459 --> 00:24:03.667
Move it out of the road.

00:24:03.709 --> 00:24:04.751
Get it out of the road.

00:24:04.792 --> 00:24:06.459
You can\'t block the county road.

00:24:06.501 --> 00:24:08.792
(Sewall)
When I tried to introduce myself

00:24:08.834 --> 00:24:10.918
to the man who seemed
to be in charge,

00:24:10.959 --> 00:24:12.083
I said, \"I\'m Christopher Sewall.

00:24:12.125 --> 00:24:14.045
I work for the Western Shoshone
Defense Project,\"

00:24:14.083 --> 00:24:17.125
he just got in my face and said,
\"We know who you are.\"

00:24:19.375 --> 00:24:21.542
Don\'t get nervous.

00:24:21.584 --> 00:24:22.998
(Sewall)
Here the government was,

00:24:22.999 --> 00:24:24.998
you know, my own government,

00:24:24.999 --> 00:24:28.042
coming in to take people\'s
sustenance from them,

00:24:28.083 --> 00:24:30.167
people who have been here,
you know,

00:24:30.209 --> 00:24:32.042
since before we got here,

00:24:32.083 --> 00:24:35.250
people who signed a treaty
with the United States,

00:24:35.292 --> 00:24:37.998
a treaty that agreed
to share their land.

00:24:37.999 --> 00:24:41.083
And now this very same
government comes in here

00:24:41.125 --> 00:24:43.876
at gunpoint undercover of dark

00:24:43.918 --> 00:24:45.834
to take their animals.

00:24:45.876 --> 00:24:50.959
You\'re stripping us
of our dignity.

00:24:50.999 --> 00:24:51.999
And I think that\'s wrong.

00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.999
I think that\'s totally wrong.

00:24:55.792 --> 00:24:57.626
(Fishel)
And then, a few months later,

00:24:57.667 --> 00:24:59.083
the United States comes back out

00:24:59.125 --> 00:25:02.667
and takes
over 400 head of horses,

00:25:02.709 --> 00:25:04.459
horses that
had lived on these lands

00:25:04.501 --> 00:25:07.292
for as long as the Dann family
can remember.

00:25:07.334 --> 00:25:09.042
At the same time,

00:25:09.083 --> 00:25:11.667
they\'re issuing
this new stamp of Sacagawea,

00:25:11.709 --> 00:25:13.334
a Shoshone woman who helped
Lewis and Clark

00:25:13.375 --> 00:25:14.998
get Shoshone horses.

00:25:14.999 --> 00:25:16.459
And the United States,
at the same time,

00:25:16.501 --> 00:25:20.000
is coming out stealing
Shoshone horses in 2003.

00:25:20.042 --> 00:25:21.918
It\'s just...

00:25:21.959 --> 00:25:23.709
it\'s disgusting.

00:25:23.751 --> 00:25:24.751
(Paul)
We watched them

00:25:24.792 --> 00:25:25.999
run horses through the fence,

00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.083
and then they denied
having done it.

00:25:28.125 --> 00:25:30.998
But we received those horses
at the end of the day.

00:25:30.999 --> 00:25:33.918
We could definitely see that they\'d
been run through the fence.

00:25:33.959 --> 00:25:35.959
They were there
like three weeks,

00:25:35.999 --> 00:25:38.667
every day for three weeks.

00:25:38.709 --> 00:25:40.083
(Sewall)
I saw the horses

00:25:40.125 --> 00:25:42.542
before they did the roundup
last fall.

00:25:42.584 --> 00:25:45.998
The horses were healthy
and happy up there

00:25:45.999 --> 00:25:48.542
in those mountains.

00:25:48.584 --> 00:25:51.709
The only threat to the horses
was the roundup,

00:25:51.751 --> 00:25:55.000
because it was being conducted
in the wintertime.

00:25:55.042 --> 00:25:57.998
Many of these horses
had just had babies

00:25:57.999 --> 00:26:00.959
or were carrying babies.

00:26:00.999 --> 00:26:02.125
It\'s cold.

00:26:02.167 --> 00:26:04.501
There\'s less food out there
in the wintertime.

00:26:04.542 --> 00:26:07.998
It\'s not a good time to be
chasing wild horses around.

00:26:07.999 --> 00:26:10.542
And that was made clear
to the BLM,

00:26:10.584 --> 00:26:12.125
\"You\'re going
to lose horses.\"

00:26:26.999 --> 00:26:31.083
The BLM thought they knew better
and went ahead anyway.

00:26:31.125 --> 00:26:34.999
And the sad result has been,
horses have died,

00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.998
horses have starved,
babies have died,

00:26:37.999 --> 00:26:42.542
all because the BLM
had this overwhelming need

00:26:42.584 --> 00:26:45.334
to get these horses
off the range.

00:26:49.667 --> 00:26:52.584
(Steenburgen) Some of the horses
that the BLM captured

00:26:52.626 --> 00:26:55.999
were boarded in areas
without adequate food.

00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:01.459
Fenced in and unable
to forage for themselves,

00:27:01.501 --> 00:27:03.876
many died of starvation.

00:27:08.250 --> 00:27:10.250
In America,
you should not be dehumanized,

00:27:10.292 --> 00:27:11.998
and yet we are
being dehumanized.

00:27:11.999 --> 00:27:13.167
We\'re being humiliated.

00:27:13.209 --> 00:27:19.876
Right now, we are
just barely scraping by.

00:27:19.918 --> 00:27:23.998
From what I can see,
the ranch is going to die.

00:27:23.999 --> 00:27:25.998
It\'ll be a death to our place.

00:27:25.999 --> 00:27:27.375
When you got no income,

00:27:27.417 --> 00:27:29.250
there\'s no way
that you can operate.

00:27:29.292 --> 00:27:31.501
Money that was generated
from our livestock

00:27:31.542 --> 00:27:33.876
is what kept us going,
kept us in business,

00:27:33.918 --> 00:27:34.998
kept us -

00:27:34.999 --> 00:27:36.998
to make a livelihood.

00:27:36.999 --> 00:27:38.417
(Mary)
Yeah, I got rid of the cows

00:27:38.459 --> 00:27:40.375
because I got no place
to turn \'em out

00:27:40.417 --> 00:27:43.626
and because the BLM
has been saying

00:27:43.667 --> 00:27:45.998
that they\'re going to round up
our horses again

00:27:45.999 --> 00:27:47.998
and our animals of any kind.

00:27:47.999 --> 00:27:50.751
That\'s how come we have to sell.

00:27:50.792 --> 00:27:52.999
(Carrie)
Just let us live.

00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.834
Let us enjoy
a little bit of our -

00:27:55.876 --> 00:27:59.834
you know, our lives
through their economic system,

00:27:59.876 --> 00:28:02.667
because that\'s what
they\'ve forced upon us.

00:28:05.999 --> 00:28:07.998
(Sewall)
I believe this is Shoshone land.

00:28:07.999 --> 00:28:09.584
And if it\'s Shoshone land,

00:28:09.626 --> 00:28:12.334
then they ought to have a say
what happens to it.

00:28:12.375 --> 00:28:14.709
If you go by the BLM\'s theory,

00:28:14.751 --> 00:28:17.292
that it\'s all of our land,
well, then it\'s my land too,

00:28:17.334 --> 00:28:19.501
and I say that\'s not right,

00:28:19.542 --> 00:28:21.459
that the people
who have been here forever

00:28:21.501 --> 00:28:23.959
should not be alienated
from the land

00:28:23.999 --> 00:28:25.584
which has given them life,

00:28:25.626 --> 00:28:27.250
which has
given them their songs,

00:28:27.292 --> 00:28:28.959
which has
given them their culture

00:28:28.999 --> 00:28:30.250
and their history.

00:28:30.292 --> 00:28:31.918
(Fishel)
I don\'t know what

00:28:31.959 --> 00:28:37.542
the BLM\'s ulterior motive was
for the seizures of livestock

00:28:37.584 --> 00:28:39.626
that they\'ve done.

00:28:39.667 --> 00:28:42.998
These roundups cost
approximately $1 million apiece

00:28:42.999 --> 00:28:44.542
is what we\'re being told.

00:28:44.584 --> 00:28:46.918
Helen Hankins
and Bob Abbey both told me

00:28:46.959 --> 00:28:49.667
these orders were coming
straight from D.C.

00:28:49.709 --> 00:28:53.042
They just told me that
it was the top, the very top.

00:28:53.083 --> 00:28:55.834
And when I asked if
it was Department of Interior,

00:28:55.876 --> 00:28:57.999
Department of State,
Department of Justice,

00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:59.751
she told me all three.

00:28:59.792 --> 00:29:01.167
What was their motive?

00:29:01.209 --> 00:29:03.999
I don\'t think
it was a concern for the land.

00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:06.167
I do not believe that.

00:29:06.209 --> 00:29:07.709
(Herman)
Now, you may ask yourself,

00:29:07.751 --> 00:29:10.999
why would the United States
government come in

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.998
and raid a ranch
that\'s owned and operated

00:29:13.999 --> 00:29:16.998
by two Western Shoshone
grandmothers

00:29:16.999 --> 00:29:21.626
that have lived there on this land
since time immemorial?

00:29:21.667 --> 00:29:25.667
Well, as it turns out,
their ranch in Crescent Valley

00:29:25.709 --> 00:29:28.334
sits atop one of the largest gold finds

00:29:28.375 --> 00:29:29.999
in the history
of the United States.

00:29:41.626 --> 00:29:43.417
(Fishel)
Just two or three months

00:29:43.459 --> 00:29:47.876
after the horse roundup
in February of 2003,

00:29:47.918 --> 00:29:52.876
Cortez gold, it was front page,
top fold of the local paper,

00:29:52.918 --> 00:29:56.167
\"Striking Gold\"
all in big gold letters.

00:29:56.209 --> 00:29:57.998
And Cortez was claiming
that it had found

00:29:57.999 --> 00:30:00.751
one of the most significant
deposits of gold.

00:30:00.792 --> 00:30:02.083
Where?

00:30:02.125 --> 00:30:04.792
Right there where those animals
had been removed.

00:30:06.542 --> 00:30:08.998
If you want to look
at degradation of the range,

00:30:08.999 --> 00:30:10.667
go look
over the top of this mountain

00:30:10.709 --> 00:30:11.834
down into those roads

00:30:11.876 --> 00:30:15.542
that the mine\'s been putting in
to do their exploration

00:30:15.584 --> 00:30:17.459
or go look
into one of these pits

00:30:17.501 --> 00:30:19.959
or go look at all the water
they\'re pumping.

00:30:19.999 --> 00:30:22.792
And yet that\'s not considered
degradation of the range?

00:30:24.083 --> 00:30:26.334
Shoshone land right now

00:30:26.375 --> 00:30:29.417
is the second largest
gold-producing area in the world.

00:30:29.459 --> 00:30:31.459
We\'ve got
all the biggest companies.

00:30:31.501 --> 00:30:32.998
We\'ve got Barrick,
and we\'ve got Newmont,

00:30:32.999 --> 00:30:34.998
which is the world\'s largest
mining company.

00:30:34.999 --> 00:30:37.998
And we\'ve got Placer Dome,
Kennecott.

00:30:37.999 --> 00:30:40.876
I mean, you look down a list
of who\'s who in gold companies,

00:30:40.918 --> 00:30:42.334
and they\'re here.

00:30:42.375 --> 00:30:46.042
Who stands to gain?

00:30:46.083 --> 00:30:48.167
Follow the money.

00:30:48.209 --> 00:30:49.667
Who benefits?

00:30:49.709 --> 00:30:51.125
Horse people don\'t benefit.

00:30:51.167 --> 00:30:52.999
BLM doesn\'t benefit.

00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.626
The Shoshone don\'t benefit.

00:30:54.667 --> 00:30:55.959
Does the general public benefit?

00:30:55.999 --> 00:30:56.999
No.

00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:58.125
It\'s taxpayer money.

00:30:58.167 --> 00:30:59.999
Who benefits?

00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.998
Whoever\'s going to make money

00:31:01.999 --> 00:31:06.834
if this whole Shoshone
title issues is cleared up.

00:31:06.876 --> 00:31:08.167
I mean, a very interesting
deposition to take,

00:31:08.209 --> 00:31:11.998
I would think,
is to depose the officials

00:31:11.999 --> 00:31:14.292
at the Department
of the Interior at that time

00:31:14.334 --> 00:31:17.998
and depose some of the people
who were profiting

00:31:17.999 --> 00:31:20.292
off of this
claimed extinguishment

00:31:20.334 --> 00:31:22.000
of Western Shoshone title

00:31:22.042 --> 00:31:24.709
and see if there was
collusion between the parties.

00:31:24.751 --> 00:31:27.209
Because it\'s just
too coincidental

00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:30.998
that the gold industry
discovered this process

00:31:30.999 --> 00:31:33.709
to extract the microscopic gold
from the rocks

00:31:33.751 --> 00:31:37.042
through cyanide heap leaching
in 1961.

00:31:37.083 --> 00:31:39.334
And Shoshone title
was mysteriously,

00:31:39.375 --> 00:31:43.542
amazingly extinguished in 1962.

00:31:44.999 --> 00:31:48.209
I don\'t think that time frame
is a coincidence.

00:31:52.292 --> 00:31:53.459
As an attorney,

00:31:53.501 --> 00:31:55.998
I see the connection
between problems

00:31:55.999 --> 00:31:58.876
with getting human rights
violations addressed

00:31:58.918 --> 00:32:01.417
when there\'s big money at stake.

00:32:01.459 --> 00:32:05.209
I had a meeting with Newmont,
and there was no denying it,

00:32:05.250 --> 00:32:08.834
that they are working very hard
to privatize.

00:32:08.876 --> 00:32:12.042
If they\'re allowed
to privatize the areas,

00:32:12.083 --> 00:32:13.501
then that takes them out

00:32:13.542 --> 00:32:15.876
of the National Environmental
Policy Act process,

00:32:15.918 --> 00:32:17.792
the duty to consult with tribes,

00:32:17.834 --> 00:32:19.626
the Indian
Religious Freedom Act,

00:32:19.667 --> 00:32:21.959
all of these special laws

00:32:21.999 --> 00:32:24.000
that at least provide
some minimal protection

00:32:24.042 --> 00:32:27.998
for Indian peoples.

00:32:27.999 --> 00:32:31.209
[man singing]

00:32:31.250 --> 00:32:33.292
(man)
Newmont, come on down.

00:32:33.334 --> 00:32:36.375
You got some people
want to meet with you,

00:32:36.417 --> 00:32:38.292
people whose land
you\'re stealing right now,

00:32:38.334 --> 00:32:40.250
whose land
you\'re poisoning right now.

00:32:40.292 --> 00:32:42.083
They want to have
a chat with you.

00:32:42.125 --> 00:32:45.083
[man singing and drum beating]

00:32:45.125 --> 00:32:49.375
♪ ♪

00:32:52.334 --> 00:32:54.998
(Fishel) The gold we have out here
is microscopic.

00:32:54.999 --> 00:32:57.998
But to extract it from the rock,

00:32:57.999 --> 00:33:00.501
the industry developed
this process

00:33:00.542 --> 00:33:03.876
where they, you know,
dig the earth out,

00:33:03.918 --> 00:33:05.125
crush it down,

00:33:05.167 --> 00:33:08.667
and then leach it with cyanide.

00:33:08.709 --> 00:33:11.998
And that separates the gold
from the rock.

00:33:11.999 --> 00:33:14.083
Then they take
the rock that\'s left

00:33:14.125 --> 00:33:16.999
and they make
these huge tailings piles.

00:33:50.417 --> 00:33:53.751
This microscopic gold
is underneath the water table,

00:33:53.792 --> 00:33:55.334
so they\'re having
to pump the water out

00:33:55.375 --> 00:33:57.125
to get to the earth underneath.

00:33:57.167 --> 00:34:02.125
The mines are pumping anywhere from
20,000 gallons of water per minute

00:34:02.167 --> 00:34:04.292
to 70,000 gallons of water per minute

00:34:04.334 --> 00:34:09.626
for one mine alone every day,
365 days a year.

00:34:13.999 --> 00:34:17.125
(Carrie) They\'re pumping
this virgin water out

00:34:17.167 --> 00:34:24.998
so that we as human beings
can enjoy wearing gold.

00:34:24.999 --> 00:34:28.501
Ladies and gentlemen,
you\'re killing the Earth.

00:34:28.542 --> 00:34:35.584
The Earth is dying
because of the way people act,

00:34:35.626 --> 00:34:40.998
you as consumers,
they as producers of gold.

00:34:40.999 --> 00:34:43.209
And as indigenous people,
we\'re yelling,

00:34:43.250 --> 00:34:47.998
\"Stop that.
You\'re killing our mother.\"

00:34:47.999 --> 00:34:49.584
Who\'s going to hear us?

00:34:49.626 --> 00:34:52.751
\"Stop that.
You\'re killing the Earth.

00:34:52.792 --> 00:34:55.626
\"You\'re killing mother of all life,
for God\'s sakes.

00:34:55.667 --> 00:35:00.000
Can\'t you wake up and listen
to what we\'re saying to you?\"

00:35:00.042 --> 00:35:04.959
And let us treat this Earth
with tender love and care,

00:35:04.999 --> 00:35:07.250
because it is our only mother.

00:35:11.125 --> 00:35:12.542
(Sewall)
They always insisted

00:35:12.584 --> 00:35:15.125
that the water
pumping at that mine

00:35:15.167 --> 00:35:17.834
would never affect any waters
more than a mile or two

00:35:17.876 --> 00:35:20.918
away from the actual mine site.

00:35:20.959 --> 00:35:23.501
And here we are
over seven miles away,

00:35:23.542 --> 00:35:26.667
and the water table\'s dropping,
and it keeps dropping.

00:35:26.709 --> 00:35:30.998
And not only is the water table
declining over here,

00:35:30.999 --> 00:35:33.667
but the water
down on the valley floor

00:35:33.709 --> 00:35:36.542
is being turned into salt water.

00:35:36.584 --> 00:35:40.042
So they take that clean water
they\'ve pumped from down deep,

00:35:40.083 --> 00:35:41.998
and they dump it on the surface.

00:35:41.999 --> 00:35:45.125
So by the time it gets back
into the ground water,

00:35:45.167 --> 00:35:47.998
it no longer meets
drinking water quality standards

00:35:47.999 --> 00:35:50.999
because there\'s too much salt
and minerals in it.

00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.459
And now they\'ve found more gold.

00:35:54.501 --> 00:35:56.667
And the next mine
they want to build

00:35:56.709 --> 00:36:02.209
is right here, right here.

00:36:02.250 --> 00:36:05.209
[man singing]

00:36:05.250 --> 00:36:13.250
♪ ♪

00:36:30.542 --> 00:36:34.751
(Carrie) To traditional indigenous person,
land means life.

00:36:34.792 --> 00:36:39.709
All the things that you have,
they all come from this Earth.

00:36:42.334 --> 00:36:45.998
Today they
call those things resources.

00:36:45.999 --> 00:36:51.250
Today those resources are taken
in the name of money.

00:36:51.292 --> 00:36:53.542
Who does that?

00:36:53.584 --> 00:36:56.959
Multinational corporations.

00:36:56.999 --> 00:36:57.999
They don\'t care.

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.459
They\'re not going
to be here tomorrow.

00:37:01.501 --> 00:37:04.417
Soon as they take
the resources out,

00:37:04.459 --> 00:37:06.459
they will be gone.

00:37:06.501 --> 00:37:09.751
Do we as people have a right
to take away that life

00:37:09.792 --> 00:37:12.626
from the children\'s children?

00:37:12.667 --> 00:37:16.959
I don\'t think so.

00:37:16.999 --> 00:37:18.918
I think what we have to do is,

00:37:18.959 --> 00:37:21.792
we have
to take care of this land

00:37:21.834 --> 00:37:25.042
the way it was meant to be.

00:37:25.083 --> 00:37:27.542
(Blossom)
Let\'s give honor to our sisters

00:37:27.584 --> 00:37:29.792
that have stood and fought
long and hard

00:37:29.834 --> 00:37:31.125
and are still fighting.

00:37:31.167 --> 00:37:32.792
And that\'s why we\'re here today,

00:37:32.834 --> 00:37:34.626
to support my sisters

00:37:34.667 --> 00:37:37.999
that have been
on the battlefield for so long.

00:37:40.292 --> 00:37:42.998
(Mary)
We don\'t need all that gold.

00:37:42.999 --> 00:37:48.209
80% of that gold
goes into jewelry.

00:37:48.250 --> 00:37:50.083
80%.

00:37:50.125 --> 00:37:53.751
Any time you men buy gold
for your wives,

00:37:53.792 --> 00:37:56.459
you think about that,

00:37:56.501 --> 00:37:58.261
the destruction
that\'s happening to the Earth

00:37:58.292 --> 00:38:00.751
in the name of gold.

00:38:00.792 --> 00:38:04.375
I\'d like to say to the mothers,

00:38:04.417 --> 00:38:06.998
it is your duty
to take care of the Earth,

00:38:06.999 --> 00:38:11.542
because your body is modeled
after the Earth.

00:38:11.584 --> 00:38:13.459
So you\'re the giver of life.

00:38:13.501 --> 00:38:15.998
But when we look at all of these
things that\'s going on

00:38:15.999 --> 00:38:18.834
and I look at the children,

00:38:18.876 --> 00:38:23.998
what\'s their future
going to be like?

00:38:23.999 --> 00:38:26.626
I\'m going to talk
in my native tongue.

00:38:26.667 --> 00:38:30.250
And some of you people might ask me,
what did I say.

00:38:30.292 --> 00:38:31.751
Maybe I talk about you guys.

00:38:31.792 --> 00:38:34.542
I don\'t know.

00:38:34.584 --> 00:38:39.999
[speaking native language]

00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.876
(Sewall) You know, something that I\'ve
learned working in Indian country

00:38:42.918 --> 00:38:46.667
is the importance
of knowing your history,

00:38:46.709 --> 00:38:48.998
knowing where you came from.

00:38:48.999 --> 00:38:53.042
And so for me,
at least in my personal life,

00:38:53.083 --> 00:38:56.542
the history, those stories,
can give you power.

00:38:56.584 --> 00:39:01.542
Knowing your stories
can give you strength.

00:39:01.584 --> 00:39:02.584
And that\'s what I\'ve seen.

00:39:02.626 --> 00:39:07.998
And I think that\'s why...

00:39:07.999 --> 00:39:10.834
that\'s why Mary and Carrie
and the other Shoshone people

00:39:10.876 --> 00:39:15.542
have been able to survive
the onslaught.

00:39:15.584 --> 00:39:17.209
Now, let\'s think back.

00:39:17.250 --> 00:39:22.042
In 1979, when the U.S. government
awarded this claims money,

00:39:22.083 --> 00:39:25.998
they decided to award
approximately $26 million

00:39:25.999 --> 00:39:28.584
for over 24 million acres

00:39:28.626 --> 00:39:31.999
of Western Shoshone
aboriginal territory.

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:37.999
So here\'s one mine
that sits on top of billions,

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.083
several billion dollars
worth of gold.

00:39:41.125 --> 00:39:45.542
And so Congress says that
the highest and best use

00:39:45.584 --> 00:39:48.292
of all the lands here
in the West

00:39:48.334 --> 00:39:51.998
is their exploitation
for minerals,

00:39:51.999 --> 00:39:55.584
because it doesn\'t matter
if there are burials on the site.

00:39:55.626 --> 00:39:57.292
It doesn\'t matter
if it\'s a cultural site.

00:39:57.334 --> 00:39:58.834
It doesn\'t matter
if you hunt there,

00:39:58.876 --> 00:40:00.501
you get your medicine there.

00:40:00.542 --> 00:40:03.834
The gold they can get
out of this mountain

00:40:03.876 --> 00:40:08.667
is more important than
anything else I\'ve told you.

00:40:08.709 --> 00:40:11.751
And that\'s wrong.

00:40:11.792 --> 00:40:16.250
That\'s wrong.

00:40:16.292 --> 00:40:20.000
And they\'re doing it
in your name, in my name.

00:40:27.042 --> 00:40:31.792
(Steenburgen)
On Earth Day, April 22, 2005,

00:40:31.834 --> 00:40:35.999
Mary Dann died in an accident
on the Dann ranch.

00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.334
She\'d been out repairing fences.

00:40:39.375 --> 00:40:41.751
She died as she lived,

00:40:41.792 --> 00:40:45.999
with her boots on
and hay in her pockets.

00:41:28.542 --> 00:41:31.998
(woman)
♪ We are the land ♪

00:41:31.999 --> 00:41:35.375
♪ On a clear day ♪

00:41:35.417 --> 00:41:39.918
♪ You will see me ♪

00:41:39.959 --> 00:41:45.334
♪ Still riding free ♪

00:41:45.375 --> 00:41:48.334
♪ On a cloudy day ♪

00:41:48.375 --> 00:41:51.998
♪ In Crescent Valley ♪

00:41:51.999 --> 00:41:59.250
♪ Is where my heart
will always be ♪

00:41:59.292 --> 00:42:04.999
♪ You can take
all the cattle ♪

00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:11.998
♪ All the horses
you demand ♪

00:42:11.999 --> 00:42:18.375
♪ You will never
take our spirit ♪

00:42:18.417 --> 00:42:21.751
♪ Our way of life ♪

00:42:21.792 --> 00:42:25.834
♪ We are the land ♪

00:42:25.876 --> 00:42:32.292
♪ We do not want
your favors ♪

00:42:32.334 --> 00:42:39.042
♪ You will never
understand ♪

00:42:39.083 --> 00:42:45.042
♪ You cannot
steal our spirit ♪

00:42:45.083 --> 00:42:48.334
♪ Our way of life ♪

00:42:48.375 --> 00:42:52.083
♪ We are the Danns ♪

00:42:52.125 --> 00:42:55.375
♪ On a clear day ♪

00:42:55.417 --> 00:42:59.998
♪ You will see me ♪

00:42:59.999 --> 00:43:04.998
♪ Still riding through ♪

00:43:04.999 --> 00:43:08.292
♪ On a cloudy day ♪

00:43:08.334 --> 00:43:11.918
♪ in Crescent Valley ♪

00:43:11.959 --> 00:43:18.792
♪ Is where my heart
will always be ♪

00:43:18.834 --> 00:43:22.626
♪ On a cloudy day ♪

00:43:22.667 --> 00:43:25.375
♪ In Crescent Valley ♪

00:43:25.417 --> 00:43:33.417
♪ Is where my heart
will always be ♪

00:43:34.375 --> 00:43:42.375
♪ Where my heart
will always be ♪

00:43:48.999 --> 00:43:50.292
(Steenburgen)
Carrie Dann said

00:43:50.334 --> 00:43:53.751
Mary would not want her death
to interrupt the struggle

00:43:53.792 --> 00:43:57.542
to regain their land rights
and human rights.

00:43:57.584 --> 00:43:58.792
The following year,

00:43:58.834 --> 00:44:01.375
the Western Shoshone
renewed their grievances

00:44:01.417 --> 00:44:03.626
with the United Nations.

00:44:03.667 --> 00:44:04.667
(Fishel)
I was involved

00:44:04.709 --> 00:44:07.125
in the U.N. CERD presentation.

00:44:07.167 --> 00:44:08.876
What CERD stands for is

00:44:08.918 --> 00:44:12.209
the Committee on the Elimination
of Racial Discrimination

00:44:12.250 --> 00:44:15.834
that the United States
signed and ratified in 1993,

00:44:15.876 --> 00:44:16.876
I believe.

00:44:16.918 --> 00:44:18.417
A large part of our argument

00:44:18.459 --> 00:44:20.584
was that the expansion
of this open-pit

00:44:20.626 --> 00:44:24.000
cyanide heap leach mining
is in direct violation

00:44:24.042 --> 00:44:26.459
and threatens
to do irreparable damage

00:44:26.501 --> 00:44:28.375
to Shoshone cultural
and spiritual areas,

00:44:28.417 --> 00:44:30.834
in particular, Mount Tenabo.

00:44:30.876 --> 00:44:32.417
(Shahi)
Greeting the Shoshone people,

00:44:32.459 --> 00:44:34.250
they have legitimate grievances.

00:44:34.292 --> 00:44:37.918
There\'s an old Roman law,
I believe,

00:44:37.959 --> 00:44:40.292
where there\'s a wrong,
there must be a remedy.

00:44:40.334 --> 00:44:44.834
And no country no matter
how great or progressive it is,

00:44:44.876 --> 00:44:46.709
is a perfect society.

00:44:46.751 --> 00:44:49.083
There are always
elements of ethnic

00:44:49.125 --> 00:44:53.250
and other kinds of racism
or discrimination.

00:44:53.292 --> 00:44:56.999
And we bring the attention
of the party to remedy these.

00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:58.334
(Fishel)
And they rendered

00:44:58.375 --> 00:45:00.998
a full formal
urgent action decision

00:45:00.999 --> 00:45:02.542
against the United States,

00:45:02.584 --> 00:45:05.334
urging that the United States
immediately freeze, desist,

00:45:05.375 --> 00:45:07.125
and stop
from any further actions

00:45:07.167 --> 00:45:09.998
against the Western Shoshone people,

00:45:09.999 --> 00:45:12.998
any further legislative efforts
to privatize their lands.

00:45:12.999 --> 00:45:16.250
And they also urged the U.S.
to immediately initiate

00:45:16.292 --> 00:45:19.334
good faith dialogues
and to respect the rights

00:45:19.375 --> 00:45:20.959
of the Shoshone people.

00:45:23.999 --> 00:45:26.167
This isn\'t a decision
against a government

00:45:26.209 --> 00:45:29.501
that everybody recognizes
as a human rights violator.

00:45:29.542 --> 00:45:32.876
This is against a government
that portrays itself

00:45:32.918 --> 00:45:34.417
as a defender of human rights

00:45:34.459 --> 00:45:36.792
and yet,
through its corporate policies

00:45:36.834 --> 00:45:38.209
and government policies,

00:45:38.250 --> 00:45:42.876
allows for ongoing takings
of indigenous lands.

00:45:42.918 --> 00:45:44.918
And when you say
\"The United Nations

00:45:44.959 --> 00:45:49.083
has condemned U.S. behavior
against the Western Shoshone,\"

00:45:49.125 --> 00:45:50.751
that means something to people

00:45:50.792 --> 00:45:53.918
when they pick up the paper
and read it.

00:45:53.959 --> 00:45:56.209
And even if the U.S. ignores
and they continue to do this,

00:45:56.250 --> 00:45:58.834
there\'s that sense of hope.

00:46:03.167 --> 00:46:05.501
What I would like to see
from the United States

00:46:05.542 --> 00:46:08.751
is for them to initiate
a dialogue

00:46:08.792 --> 00:46:12.542
and put a hold on any further
lease applications,

00:46:12.584 --> 00:46:16.375
mining permits,
and move forward in a good way.

00:46:16.417 --> 00:46:17.998
Hello, Miss Carrie.

00:46:17.999 --> 00:46:20.501
Julie.
Little Julie.

00:46:23.999 --> 00:46:25.998
Came home finally.
They sent me -

00:46:25.999 --> 00:46:27.501
(Carrie)
After we heard the decision

00:46:27.542 --> 00:46:29.626
from CERD,
I was very pleased about it,

00:46:29.667 --> 00:46:30.998
very happy about it.

00:46:30.999 --> 00:46:32.918
You got a copy of the decision?

00:46:32.959 --> 00:46:34.167
Yes.

00:46:34.209 --> 00:46:35.918
Did it say what
you wanted it to say?

00:46:35.959 --> 00:46:37.125
Yes.

00:46:38.626 --> 00:46:41.000
(Carrie)
Okay.

00:46:41.042 --> 00:46:44.918
\"Today in historical
and strongly worded decision

00:46:44.959 --> 00:46:46.834
\"by the United Nations Committee

00:46:46.876 --> 00:46:50.959
\"on Elimination
of Racial Discrimination, CERD,

00:46:50.999 --> 00:46:53.959
\"United States was urged
to please desist

00:46:53.999 --> 00:46:56.998
\"and stop action being taken
or threatened to be taken

00:46:56.999 --> 00:46:58.501
against Shoshone peoples.\"

00:46:58.542 --> 00:47:02.998
Hopefully we will be able
to just sit across

00:47:02.999 --> 00:47:06.667
from the decision makers
from the United States of America.

00:47:06.709 --> 00:47:11.998
The relationship between America
and the indigenous peoples

00:47:11.999 --> 00:47:13.918
have been very bad.

00:47:13.959 --> 00:47:16.501
But we can learn how to talk
with each other.

00:47:16.542 --> 00:47:20.459
That was part of the indigenous way
of having consensus.

00:47:20.501 --> 00:47:22.876
And it was actually one
of the members that told me

00:47:22.918 --> 00:47:26.501
that this is
an historic decision.

00:47:26.542 --> 00:47:28.501
To be against the United States,
it has to be -

00:47:28.542 --> 00:47:30.501
No, on indigenous issues,
on this issue.

00:47:32.501 --> 00:47:33.998
So...

00:47:33.999 --> 00:47:36.667
And that\'s what Uncle
said yesterday too.

00:47:36.709 --> 00:47:38.042
Julie, he was so happy.

00:47:38.083 --> 00:47:39.167
He was?
Yeah.

00:47:39.209 --> 00:47:40.998
About this?

00:47:40.999 --> 00:47:41.999
Good.

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.000
He really was.

00:47:43.042 --> 00:47:44.042
He told -

00:47:44.083 --> 00:47:47.083
He says, \"Well, we can
go dancing tonight.\"

00:47:47.125 --> 00:47:49.501
[laughing]

00:47:49.542 --> 00:47:50.751
(Fishel)
It\'s about time, huh?

00:47:50.792 --> 00:47:51.792
(Carrie)
It\'s about time

00:47:51.834 --> 00:47:52.998
the truth come out.

00:47:52.999 --> 00:47:54.751
So the thing is,
Carrie, you know,

00:47:54.792 --> 00:47:57.501
even if the government ignores
this for a while or whatever,

00:47:57.542 --> 00:47:58.998
it\'s there now.

00:47:58.999 --> 00:48:03.709
It\'s one of those issues
that\'s just going to blossom.

00:48:03.751 --> 00:48:05.959
Good job, Julie.
Good job.

00:48:05.999 --> 00:48:07.334
Good job, everybody.

00:48:07.375 --> 00:48:08.375
Good job, Julie.

00:48:09.542 --> 00:48:11.000
(Anaya)
Well, the Western Shoshone case

00:48:11.042 --> 00:48:15.584
is a very important case for
the indigenous movement worldwide.

00:48:15.626 --> 00:48:18.417
The Dann sisters in particular
have been very inspirational.

00:48:18.459 --> 00:48:20.042
They\'ve won the moral battle.

00:48:20.083 --> 00:48:23.998
The U.S. has its legal
maneuverings that it can make

00:48:23.999 --> 00:48:25.417
within its own domestic system,

00:48:25.459 --> 00:48:27.459
but when it comes
to judging these actions

00:48:27.501 --> 00:48:29.501
against fundamental
U.N. standards,

00:48:29.542 --> 00:48:31.751
the Danns and
the Western Shoshone people

00:48:31.792 --> 00:48:33.083
are the ones who are right.

00:48:33.125 --> 00:48:36.083
[men singing and drumming]

00:48:36.125 --> 00:48:37.999
♪ ♪

00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.998
This year, the Committee
on Elimination

00:48:41.999 --> 00:48:43.876
of Racial Discrimination confirmed

00:48:43.918 --> 00:48:46.459
the Inter-American Commission\'s finding

00:48:46.501 --> 00:48:48.334
and issued a full decision

00:48:48.375 --> 00:48:52.998
under their Early Warning
and Urgent Action procedures.

00:48:52.999 --> 00:48:55.834
We were very pleased that
these bodies have recognized

00:48:55.876 --> 00:48:57.709
the wrongs that the government
is committing

00:48:57.751 --> 00:49:01.292
against our people
and other indigenous people.

00:49:01.334 --> 00:49:02.542
I want to thank you

00:49:02.584 --> 00:49:04.501
for listening
to this little old lady.

00:49:04.542 --> 00:49:05.998
Thank you very much.

00:49:05.999 --> 00:49:12.998
[cheers and applause]

00:49:12.999 --> 00:49:14.959
(Steenburgen)
After the favorable decision

00:49:14.999 --> 00:49:17.501
from the United Nations
CERD committee,

00:49:17.542 --> 00:49:20.000
the Western Shoshone
waited for a response

00:49:20.042 --> 00:49:21.999
from the United States.

00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.417
Three weeks later,

00:49:23.459 --> 00:49:26.792
the United States announced
plans to detonate

00:49:26.834 --> 00:49:29.792
the biggest open-air
chemical blast ever

00:49:29.834 --> 00:49:35.998
at the Nevada Test Site
on Western Shoshone land.

00:49:35.999 --> 00:49:39.626
The blast,
code-named \"Divine Strake,\"

00:49:39.667 --> 00:49:43.417
was planned for June 2, 2006.

00:49:53.999 --> 00:49:55.334
(Carrie)
Are we ready to dedicate

00:49:55.375 --> 00:49:58.042
ourselves to the next
generations to come?

00:49:58.083 --> 00:49:59.959
Or are we ready just to,
you know,

00:49:59.999 --> 00:50:03.125
accept things as they are
and the hell with tomorrow,

00:50:03.167 --> 00:50:05.999
the hell with the future generations?

00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.542
And that is one of the reasons
why I try so hard

00:50:09.584 --> 00:50:11.626
to protect the rights
of the indigenous peoples

00:50:11.667 --> 00:50:13.125
all over the world,

00:50:13.167 --> 00:50:15.667
because they\'re the one that\'s
still related to the Earth,

00:50:15.709 --> 00:50:17.125
they\'re still
close to the Earth,

00:50:17.167 --> 00:50:19.999
and they do care.

00:50:22.626 --> 00:50:26.667
[cheering]

00:50:32.042 --> 00:50:38.999
[cheers and applause]

00:50:57.459 --> 00:50:58.709
Huh?

00:50:58.751 --> 00:51:00.998
I don\'t want
to take it up there.

00:51:00.999 --> 00:51:03.998
[woman singing
in native language]

00:51:03.999 --> 00:51:11.999
♪ ♪

00:51:23.999 --> 00:51:26.999
I should put a saddle on you
and ride you, huh?

00:51:29.876 --> 00:51:35.125
I will only hope
history of this nation

00:51:35.167 --> 00:51:39.125
will bring out in the open
the struggles

00:51:39.167 --> 00:51:42.417
that we have had
against the United States

00:51:42.459 --> 00:51:46.459
in order for us to find
a little bit of peace,

00:51:46.501 --> 00:51:50.209
little bit of justice,
little bit of humanity,

00:51:50.250 --> 00:51:52.209
and little bit of morality

00:51:52.250 --> 00:51:55.584
in the government
of the United States of America.

00:52:02.042 --> 00:52:05.000
[woman singing
in native language]

00:52:05.042 --> 00:52:13.042
♪ ♪

00:52:41.834 --> 00:52:49.834
♪ ♪

00:53:23.334 --> 00:53:30.501
(woman)
♪ Bones, grass, and valley ♪

00:53:30.542 --> 00:53:35.998
♪ Sagebrush
and poplar trees ♪

00:53:35.999 --> 00:53:42.459
♪ Who owns
all these horses ♪

00:53:42.501 --> 00:53:45.209
♪ Our way of life ♪

00:53:45.250 --> 00:53:49.918
♪ Whose policy ♪

00:53:49.959 --> 00:53:55.998
♪ We couldn\'t take
the money ♪

00:53:55.999 --> 00:54:03.000
♪ There are those
who said we should ♪

00:54:03.042 --> 00:54:09.834
♪ We held on
to the old ways ♪

00:54:09.876 --> 00:54:16.459
♪ The way
our elders would ♪

00:54:16.501 --> 00:54:23.167
♪ We held on
to the old ways ♪

00:54:23.209 --> 00:54:31.209
♪ The way
they said we would ♪

00:54:31.375 --> 00:54:39.375
♪ ♪

00:54:42.834 --> 00:54:46.125
♪ On a clear day ♪

00:54:46.167 --> 00:54:50.834
♪ You will see me ♪

00:54:50.876 --> 00:54:55.876
♪ Still riding free ♪

00:54:55.918 --> 00:54:59.709
♪ On a cloudy day ♪

00:54:59.751 --> 00:55:02.626
♪ In grass and valley ♪

00:55:02.667 --> 00:55:05.792
♪ Is where my heart ♪

00:55:05.834 --> 00:55:11.626
♪ Will always be ♪

00:55:11.667 --> 00:55:14.292
♪ Where my heart ♪

00:55:14.334 --> 00:55:19.292
♪ Will always be ♪

00:55:22.417 --> 00:55:23.918
(Carrie)
She was your grandmother?

00:55:23.959 --> 00:55:27.083
That\'s my grandmother.

00:55:27.125 --> 00:55:28.998
That I\'m naming -
My grandmother.

00:55:28.999 --> 00:55:31.876
Mine.
Our grandmother.

00:55:31.918 --> 00:55:32.998
No, mine.

00:55:32.999 --> 00:55:35.417
[laughing]