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A Fine Line (56 min)
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Featuring intimate interviews with world-renowned chefs like Dominique Crenn, Lidia Bastianich, Cat Cora, Elena Arzak, Elizabeth Falkner, Maria Loi, Sylvia Weinstock, Michael Anthony and others, A FINE LINE explores pressing issues faced by women in the culinary arts and across all industries, including sexual and workplace harassment, access to capital, unequal pay, and lack of paid family leave and affordable childcare.
An uplifting American success story about perseverance, family, and food, A FINE LINE follows the personal story of Valerie James, a small town restaurateur with a larger than life personality who raised Joanna as a single mother, on a mission to do what she loves while raising two kids and the odds stacked against her.
'This is a relatable, heart-warming film about a woman's struggle to succeed in a male-dominated restaurant world. With notable appearances from top female chefs, viewers will learn about the ways that inequality is embedded in the food world, but also how some remarkable women (including the filmmaker's own mother) managed to succeed and inspire others.' Josee Johnston, Professor of Sociology, University of Toronto
'A Fine Line masterfully explores the challenges of women becoming successful head chefs. Using personal stories, the film exposes the unequal treatment of women, while creatively offering correctives from the experiences of women who have found success against the odds. A great resource for anyone looking to understand the need for gender equality and to break barriers in the food industry.' Naomi R Williams, Assistant Professor of Labor Studies and Employment Relations, Rutgers University
'Joanna James' heartfelt film reveals the structural inequalities that make life in restaurants more challenging for women. Stories like that of James' mother demonstrate women's strengths and ability to rise above. This film is an inspiration that will help open eyes to the gender inequality that exists in the back of the house at most restaurants. A Fine Line showcases women's entrepreneurial strengths, creativity, and mastery in the kitchen.' Rachel Black, Assistant Professor of Anthropology, Connecticut College, Author, On the Line: Women, Cuisine and Work in France (forthcoming)
'A Fine Line is a testament to women in the food industry...Throughout the entire film I couldn't help but feel the empowerment of all these different women fighting their way to the top. All these women and many more out there have fought to earn their recognition.' Karen Garcia, New Times San Luis Obispo
'Illuminate[s] how challenges of mentorship, access to capital, child care, and maternal leave have shaped opportunities for women in the restaurant industry.' Michael Floreak, Boston Globe
'The film seamlessly weaves between the chefs' perspectives and experiences rising up the ranks and Valerie's up-close and personal story empowering women and men alike to follow their dreams.' The National Herald
'A Fine Line highlights the respect that women deserve as an inspiration for a host of both female and male chefs...The film is an excellent resource for a classroom setting, showing students that while women's work tends to be devalued in society, those female chefs who focus on the collaborative aspects of the food and restaurant industry, often relying on the strengths and mutual respect of the entire staff, become successful in their own right. This lesson is applicable to many business sectors, but is especially relevant in an industry that has been plagued by sexism and is reckoning with a myriad of Me Too-related scandals.' Dr. Monique Mironesco, Professor of Political Science, University of Hawai'i, West O'ahu
Citation
Main credits
James, Joanna (film producer)
James, Joanna (film director)
James, Joanna (editor of moving image work)
Jordan, Katy (film producer)
James, Valerie (on-screen participant)
Other credits
Edited by Russell Greene, Joanna James; director of photography: Robert Featherstone; composer, Petros Klampanis.
Distributor subjects
Anthropology; Business Practices; Food And Nutrition; Human Rights; Labor and Work Issues; Local Economies; Sociology; Women's StudiesKeywords
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-My plate is an empty canvas,
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and, you know, I can draw from it.
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I fell in love with the symphony of it,
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the way and the dance of it.
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I just wanted to do something with food,
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but I was not too sure where I was --
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you know, which way I was gonna go,
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and now this is where I am.
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-What the immigrants are looking for today --
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a better life for their family, for their children --
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That was back then in 1956 for us.
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We went into a refuge camp, a political refuge camp,
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and I realized that we would not go back to see Grandma,
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and so I think, at that moment, my passion for food
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was born almost then.
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I wanted to retain those memories, those flavors,
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and throughout my life, I would bring them with me by cooking.
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-When I came into the building, it was really humbling.
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Grey is located in a Greyhound bus station
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that was built in 1938 during the Jim Crow era,
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so it is a segregated building.
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I know the people who were in this space
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going to ride the bus,
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sitting in that little tiny back waiting room
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did not think that someone like me would be a co-owner
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or be in this space at all running it.
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-I started cooking when I was 17,
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and then I came to Four Seasons Chicago,
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and I was 10 years with them
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as executive chef in three properties,
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but my father always said, "The higher up you go,
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the further removed you get from what made you great."
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And at the end of the day, this is what we do --
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We cook.
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-So, Mom, what do you think?
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This is to see you as a matriarch...
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-[ Laughs ]
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...hear your story.
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-I never thought that I would do what I did
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how I did it when I did it.
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If I had to do it over again,
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bet your ass I'd do it over again just for you and Christos.
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I didn't care about money 'cause I knew
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I was gonna make it because I believed in myself.
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Why shouldn't I do what I love?
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Don't you dare take food that doesn't belong.
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You've got tonight's special up there yet?
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-Yeah, it's up there. -He said, "Tomato wine."
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Wrong answer. Tomato basil.
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All you need is just a touch. -Yeah.
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-And go from side to side instead of over the salmon.
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-Lobster. -Megan, what do you need?
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-Spinach pie!
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-You got the spices, everything?
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Liquor? White wine?
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[ Sighs ]
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Tonight is a burger night. You understand?
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Don't screw up tonight, 'cause guess what.
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You're going to McDonald's.
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[ Indistinct conversations ]
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Coming to work every day, loving the restaurant,
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loving people, and loving to see my kids happy --
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That's all I care.
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I didn't have a life, and to keep it afloat,
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I went in from 8:00 in the morning,
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and I'd go home at 10:00, 11:00 at night,
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not seeing my kids because I couldn't afford to stop.
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-There's no doubt that there is still a glass ceiling
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for women in all kinds of industry --
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and especially in the culinary world.
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You know, over half of the graduates of culinary schools
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are women, yet less than 7% of women
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own restaurant businesses in this country.
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-I was doing stages and apprentices in France
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when I got eight rejection letters from,
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you know, eight chefs that said,
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"We don't take women in our kitchens."
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That was only 20 years ago.
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So I was ready when I became an executive chef.
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I was ready, and I could hold my own with all these guys.
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Kind of like being on the streets
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and like street fighting, you know, in a kitchen.
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-I can tell you of a story of going to Paris once
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for a client that wanted a wedding cake
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and walked into an all-male kitchen,
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where they looked askance and said,
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"Oh, my God. What is this?
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Who are you? A woman?"
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And when we were finished, they were enthralled.
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They had a bottle of champagne and toasted us.
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And I think that's what women have to do.
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They have to prove it all the time, unfortunately.
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-I grew up in Southie, last of seven kids, no money.
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I remember reading "Gourmet" magazine,
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and that kind of was the armchair travel for me,
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because you were reading about Provence or Italy,
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and you were just dreaming about it.
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So I went to Italy. I think I was 22.
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And I learned how to cook from this woman, Nita, in Tuscany.
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Didn't speak a word of English,
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and I didn't speak a word of Italian.
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She taught me how to make Bolognese sauce,
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gnocchi, you know, when to pick the basil, everything.
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She was so self-sufficient.
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I mean, I've never seen that.
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And everyone respected the nonna, the mama.
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-Women excel in cooking.
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This is what we do naturally.
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And behind every great French chef
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was a grandmother or a mother.
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You look at individuals like Bocuse and Girardet,
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and they always learned to cook from their mothers.
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They learned to cook from their grandmothers
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in their own family restaurants and bistros and inns.
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-In a little town outside Pula,
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the town that I was born in, was a courtyard,
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and in that courtyard was my grandmother,
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my grandfather's sister, brothers.
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It was a real family courtyard, and all the sustenance,
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all the food that we ate, most of it,
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was either grown or harvested.
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We had the grain, the olive oil.
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I was a little helper. Run around.
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"Go get me this, go get me that."
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I consider myself almost a conduit for a culture.
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I carry the Italian tradition
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from my native country to America.
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-"Ciliegine," so they say, right?
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-La ciliegine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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-Then you hear a bunch of people say,
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"Oh, I just want to cook like my grandmother
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or my nonna."
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It seems to me that the goal should be
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for every chef, male or female,
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to be cooking like a female chef.
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-People will say, "Well, you know,
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if you want to cook, if you're a woman, just do --
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you know, cook pasta or just do something very rustic."
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They don't look that women could be
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a Jean-Georges or Thomas Keller.
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They don't look at that like this.
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I'm looking at Anne-Sophie Pic.
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I'm looking at Elena Arzak --
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those great chefs that are female in Europe
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that have three Michelin stars.
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Et voilà.
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-Last year, we celebrate 25 years of the Michelin stars,
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and, you know, for us, it's an honor.
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You will see that there are more men
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than woman that are famous.
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But, for me, this is a social question.
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This will change with time.
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Sometimes I was the only woman in the kitchen,
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or there was one or two more,
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but the focus and the purpose was the same --
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doing as good as possible.
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-Yeah, as a woman, of course, it was harder for me
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because men thought women in the field was a joke,
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but when you find a woman that could establish her own self
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and don't care about what people think,
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you just go at it.
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Customers that come into you every day
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are not coming only for your food --
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They're coming for you.
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-She's quite the lady.
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A mother and a businesswoman.
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-Come on, guys. Use your head.
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There's 75 people coming for a party.
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If you let them take two spaces up, we're screwed.
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Just make sure they're for the function,
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but do not let them park the way they want.
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Oh, does anyone want to do dishes?
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-It's like coming home 'cause she's always
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welcoming and hugging, and she's just always there.
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-Penne up, guys?! -Yeah, right now.
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-Well, I sent you a text.
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Did you not read my goddamn text?
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I know you're busy, I know it's...
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I know, baby. I know.
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Everybody saw Val going to work every day,
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seeing the smile, "how are you doing?"
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But they never knew what a mess I really was.
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I used to drive Reservoir from my house to come to work.
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I'd stop at the reservoir.
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[ Voice breaking ] And I would look up, and I'd say,
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"Please, God, just give me strength."
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The minute my right foot went into this door,
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I forgot about everything.
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Debt collectors coming to knock on my door.
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I said, "Go screw. You'll get your money when I have it."
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I just blocked them out.
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I didn't care.
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All I thought was, "I have to make it work.
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I have to make it work."
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With a divorce, with kids, bills, loans,
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I became a bull, and I kept on going.
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-I have to tell you, I didn't think I was making a career.
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At the age of 50, I had breast cancer,
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and I was in chemotherapy here in New York
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several times a week.
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And so I felt I had nothing to lose,
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and we always wanted to come back to Manhattan.
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We knew the city, and we loved the city.
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And we found this wonderful space,
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and so we now, as we say, live above the store.
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New York City is a unique space
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because you have a mixture of ages,
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sexuality, a lot of artists, a lot of young people.
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And I always say -- Get younger friends.
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It keeps you younger.
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I also had a friend in New York who had a bakery, and he said,
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"Nobody's doing beautiful and delicious wedding cakes,
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but if you can come up with an idea,
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you could probably take over the city."
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And so, my first cake...
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The ladies that lunch saw the cake,
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and one ordered it for The Carlyle.
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And as soon as The Carlyle had it, The Pierre found out,
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The Plaza found out, and all the hotels said,
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"Hey, there's a new kid in town."
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And, of course, they discovered it was a 50-year-old woman,
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which made it even more interesting for me
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and challenging for them.
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-I got offered this job to come and be chef
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and co-owner of The Spotted Pig.
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I got brought over on a whirlwind weekend
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with Mario Batali and Ken Friedman,
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and Ken was like, "Oh, if you're
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the right person for the job, Mario will give me the thumbs-up
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or some sign in about 30 seconds."
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And I think he could probably see
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that I was very focused in my career,
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and he also noticed the burns on my arm,
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and apparently he thought I was fearless.
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About 3 months later, 4 months later, I moved to New York.
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-Now, to those new allegations of sexual misconduct
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rocking the food industry.
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-Sexual-harassment accusations
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against the owner of New York City hot spot The Spotted Pig.
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-More women and more allegations against Mario Batali,
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and now the accusations
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are escalating.
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Eataly, the Italian marketplace chain
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where Batali is part owner, has removed all of his cookbooks
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and all of his products,
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including his signature sauces,
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which have his face on the label.
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-The Me Too movement, it is growing.
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-This has been a very powerful movement.
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A new ABC News/"Washington Post" poll
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revealing an estimated 33 million American women
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have been sexually harassed.
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-With all the things that have happened with Me Too,
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I think lots of us in the industry are having
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a conversation where I started really looking at my career
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and thinking back to things that had occurred 30 years ago.
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There was a hotel that was brand-new
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that was pursuing a Michelin star,
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and I had come from France and had a great résumé.
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And one of the sous-chefs on the other team
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was very direct about his interest in me
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that went beyond being a working colleague.
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And on a daily basis,
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they started turning the lights off
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when I would be in the walk-in.
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And the sous-chef from the other restaurant
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would come into the walk-in, and I would try to make myself
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as small as possible within that space
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and try to get out of the space as quickly as possible,
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and everyone thought it was absolutely hilarious.
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And after work, I would have one of the other cooks leave with me
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because this fellow would be waiting outside.
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I decided that what I would do is, I would go
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to work 3 hours before my shift started,
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and I wouldn't punch in, and I would go,
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and I would do all of my mise en place on my own time
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so that my station was completely set up.
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And then I would ask one of the other cooks,
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if I happened to need anything, to go into the walk-in.
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And then this situation came to the attention
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of the executive chef of the hotel.
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He called me into his office and wrote me up
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and said I was antisocial and all I wanted to do was cook.
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And I remember sitting there
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and being very clear about saying, like,
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"This person is coming in the walk-in,
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and they're touching me,
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and people are turning the lights off,
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and this person's waiting outside
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when I'm leaving work at night, and I'm not comfortable,"
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and being told that it was my problem.
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And I think of that now, and it's insane.
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It was humiliating.
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I lasted about 2 more weeks, and I knew I couldn't stay there
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because something worse was going to happen.
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I would hope, at this point, if that were happening
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to a young woman that there would be zero tolerance,
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and that the person that was asked to leave
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would be the person who was causing the discomfort,
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not the person who was the victim of the actions.
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-I switched over, and I worked for a female,
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and it was like a completely different experience.
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It was like, "What do you want to cook?
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What kind of cook are you? What kind of person are you?"
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-Mash, mash, rice! Go!
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Eggplant Parm, girlfriend.
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My strength are my staff.
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-Thank you. -They inspire me,
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because without them, I couldn't have Val's.
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You're good. You're good.
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You're good. Keep it going.
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How I first got involved in this business
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was, when I was very young,
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my dad and mom had 12 seats in a little diner.
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I used to go there and sit at the first stool,
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and I would just watch him interact with customers,
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and he would just give it all out to them.
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-Once in a while, I would see her --
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a little pretty [Speaking Greek]
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a little tiny girl,
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running down to see her mother or her father.
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You know, she loved being the -- trying to work.
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-The diner was an interesting place
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because all kinds of people came in there -- wealthy people,
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blue-collar workers, college professors, students.
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And they all loved coming there
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because it wasn't just the food --
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the way they were talked to with respect.
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They were listened to.
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Val connects with people the same way her father did.
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-He's the one that showed me
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that when you give with your heart, it comes back.
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There was no obstacles between him and work, either.
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He came as an immigrant, didn't know how to speak,
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didn't know how to say "hello" in English,
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but because of his hard work, he provided for his family.
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He worked hard, and he did well.
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♪♪
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My father wanted me to learn Greek.
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So from 8 years old, I'd go to Greece from June,
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the minute school's finished, until Labor Day weekend.
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We'd be back home.
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My last trip was 1976.
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I was 16.
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What the hell do you know at 16?
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I picked up the phone in Greece. It was funny.
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I said, "Dad, I'm getting married."
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He said, "Good girl!"
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He said, "You found a nice Greek boy."
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I get married.
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I come back to the States.
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And we started to work and help Dad, help Mom.
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Things changed.
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At that time, George, my brother,
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had never worked a day of his life.
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I think he was 18.
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-Val was a worker. Val was.
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Val worked a lot, you know.
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And George, you know...
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well, he worked, but not that much.
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He kind of had it a lot easier.
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-At that point of my life, my father was successful.
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He had five pizzerias.
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He had buildings.
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He had plazas.
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And he had a son and a daughter.
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Well, the son got married,
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and they manipulated my mother and father.
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And my brother was handed the business
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that I worked from a young child.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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From that young age, I had a vision.
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I had a vision just to keep working.
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I have nothing, but I will make something.
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♪♪
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-The Culinary Institute of America
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was launched in 1946 by two women,
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but ironically they didn't even accept
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female students until 1970.
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-How do you do?
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This is Eleanor Roosevelt speaking.
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Now, there is one word that we're going to use
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over and over today, Mrs. Roth.
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I think we ought to get it straightened out right away --
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exactly how the word should be pronounced.
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How do you say c-u-l-i-n-a-r-y?
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-Europeans usually say "cul-linary,"
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and we in America are more apt to call it the "cul-inary"
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or the "cul-inarian" arts.
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♪♪
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-I went to the Culinary Institute of America,
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where there was still a lot of older instructors
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who were used to kind of the male students only.
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I actually had one instructor who told me, you know,
[00:21:52.502]
"You should still be in Mississippi barefoot
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and pregnant right now. You shouldn't be here
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at the Culinary Institute of America."
[00:21:57.174]
-Culinary right now is where the finance world
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was in the '80s.
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The rules were all created by men.
[00:22:04.973]
The industry was dominated by men.
[00:22:07.434]
Women were really treated like outsiders.
[00:22:11.229]
-A lot of the traditional culinary world
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was based on a European model.
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So I think that's one reason, perhaps,
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that the industry has been male-dominated, male-oriented.
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In the time of Escoffier,
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he really established the brigade system,
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which was kind of based upon the idea
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of a military structure,
[00:22:31.291]
so that you had sort of a leader
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and then branches of leadership coming down from the top,
[00:22:36.129]
but there was one chef who was in charge.
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-I am the president of the Central New England,
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or Joseph Donan Chapter, of Les Amis d'Escoffier.
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It's "The Friends of Escoffier" --
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the man who basically organized classical cuisine.
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My dad, Stanley James Nicas,
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he was the president for a number of years.
[00:22:57.359]
My dad had a great respect for people
[00:23:00.487]
who didn't let things happen to them,
[00:23:05.367]
took charge of things, and made sure that things would get done.
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♪♪
[00:23:13.833]
-I didn't have a clue what the Escoffier Society was.
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Your dad just called at 12:00 on a Friday lunch.
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"Val, Val, I just want you to know --
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I'm going to induct you,"
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and I was like, "Induct me, Stanley? In what?"
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-Les Amis d'Escoffier did start as a man's club.
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There are a few chapters in the U.S.
[00:23:36.314]
that are not allowing women.
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You know, I would suspect that those would change.
[00:23:42.195]
-Being a chef in France was equivalent
[00:23:43.738]
to being a rocket scientist.
[00:23:45.448]
They had little commis, little boys,
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that were probably 12 to 14
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that were just dropped off by their parents and said,
[00:23:50.954]
"Just want to make them chefs."
[00:23:53.039]
[00:23:55.625]
-It was very classic.
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It was commis. It was chef de parties.
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It was poissonniers, entremetiers, sauciers.
[00:24:03.216]
You know, Cook One, Two, Three, Four, Five.
[00:24:05.760]
It was a brigade.
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It was a French brigade.
[00:24:08.638]
-Most of them were young men who had a big ego,
[00:24:12.475]
and whose mothers had felt, "Well,
[00:24:14.936]
if he's not gonna be a doctor, he'll be a chef."
[00:24:17.105]
[00:24:20.275]
-So, that very traditional model created a lot of male chefs
[00:24:24.321]
who, of course, were inspired and nurtured by their mothers,
[00:24:27.157]
grandmothers, aunts, you know, other family members
[00:24:29.492]
who did the traditional cooking at home.
[00:24:31.119]
♪♪
[00:24:40.378]
-I think the Greek culture, we always like to feed people.
[00:24:44.049]
My mom making spinach pie.
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My father roasting a leg of lamb.
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So being that way at home,
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I brought it into the restaurant here.
[00:24:56.519]
-Definitely having all these recipes given to me
[00:24:59.105]
from the older generations, from my grandparents,
[00:25:01.983]
my grandmother, my mother --
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That's how young chefs grow.
[00:25:07.364]
They gain knowledge from their grandparents in the kitchen.
[00:25:10.533]
They're from Northern Greek villages,
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so basically they didn't have much up there.
[00:25:14.579]
They had to produce everything they had out
[00:25:16.790]
of what they had on the land.
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And I try to use the most wholesome and simple ingredients
[00:25:22.670]
that I can to a dish because that's how I was brought up.
[00:25:25.965]
-You can make honest and clean food.
[00:25:29.177]
That's how I call it.
[00:25:30.678]
We have to take all the processed food out of our lives.
[00:25:34.265]
The ancient Greeks, they used to eat a lot of beans,
[00:25:38.061]
a lot of greens, a lot of fish.
[00:25:41.356]
Starting from there, going to my grandmother's,
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that's the nature in my cuisine.
[00:25:48.446]
[00:25:53.159]
-Alice Waters said it best --
[00:25:55.078]
"If we celebrated food for what it should be celebrated for,
[00:25:58.540]
women would naturally rise to the top."
[00:26:00.708]
♪♪
[00:26:08.758]
-I arrived at Chez Panisse in July 2003,
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and it was basically like a pilgrimage.
[00:26:15.348]
It opened new doors for me.
[00:26:17.475]
You know, when you have those connections with food,
[00:26:19.644]
it's very personal,
[00:26:21.312]
and you just kind of stop, and you have this moment,
[00:26:24.023]
and it's a very loving connection.
[00:26:29.362]
To use local farms,
[00:26:31.030]
I think it's really important to support local agriculture.
[00:26:34.159]
It's gonna taste better,
[00:26:35.660]
and it's good for the environment.
[00:26:37.454]
You know, it's less carbon footprint than buying
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lamb from New Zealand.
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And even go one step further to having a restaurant on the farm
[00:26:46.796]
and to have it all be self-sustainable and symbiotic.
[00:26:50.758]
[00:26:54.304]
-My mom, everything that she cooked at home was very fresh.
[00:26:58.057]
Some of the item were coming from a garden in Brittany.
[00:27:01.102]
Some others were just, you know, the farmers' market every day.
[00:27:04.898]
So understanding the purity of the ingredient,
[00:27:07.859]
you understand where the food come from.
[00:27:09.903]
The food is the core of the ecosystem, you know?
[00:27:12.489]
So we have that responsibility as chef and human to do that.
[00:27:17.660]
-The food industry is really going through a revolution,
[00:27:20.705]
and it's being led by the female chefs.
[00:27:23.416]
♪♪
[00:27:32.467]
The "Time" magazine article in November of 2013 ran,
[00:27:36.137]
the title of which was "The Gods of Food,"
[00:27:38.681]
and they looked at the most influential people
[00:27:40.642]
in the food world of all time
[00:27:42.894]
and neglected to mention any female chefs.
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-I mean, I thought this surely is a sensational piece
[00:27:48.149]
to sell magazines
[00:27:50.860]
because how embarrassing to just put out a story
[00:27:55.490]
that says, "Well, there weren't any female."
[00:27:57.575]
I mean, to have that editor come back
[00:28:00.036]
and to even be interviewed by "Eater"
[00:28:01.913]
and just completely double-screw himself was, like...
[00:28:05.208]
I think that's what made people be like, "Are you kidding me?"
[00:28:07.710]
♪♪
[00:28:15.552]
♪♪
[00:28:23.351]
♪♪
[00:28:31.150]
♪♪
[00:28:39.158]
-I mean, there's a lot of brilliant people
[00:28:40.618]
that should have been in there.
[00:28:41.911]
I'm glad I wasn't in that article
[00:28:43.580]
because there are women chefs,
[00:28:45.206]
and there are women who've been in the kitchen a lot longer
[00:28:49.669]
than I have who deserved more press than David Chang.
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-I was like, "Oh, that's Dave Chang
[00:28:55.883]
and, you know, René," and I love them very much.
[00:28:59.804]
You know, I'm good friends with Dave.
[00:29:01.931]
So I didn't really kind of think of it like that
[00:29:03.766]
until people had started kind of, you know,
[00:29:06.477]
saying, "This is really wrong.
[00:29:07.937]
Why are there no women on there?"
[00:29:10.315]
So, you know, it did kind of make me think.
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Yeah. -It's just cooking and working.
[00:29:14.569]
And who knows, you know,
[00:29:16.988]
if you're ever gonna be successful?
[00:29:18.656]
Because there's a lot of us out there
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trying really, really hard... -Yeah, exactly.
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-...and only a few, like, you know, are making it.
[00:29:26.456]
I think there's more conflict, I think, for a woman
[00:29:31.044]
to make that decision to really dive into this profession.
[00:29:36.424]
-I think, but the women that do, like,
[00:29:38.092]
dive into it full-force are very successful.
[00:29:40.928]
♪♪
[00:29:45.433]
-In the '80s, we started to have a family.
[00:29:50.772]
Joanna was born, my daughter.
[00:29:54.984]
My husband and myself, we opened pizzerias.
[00:29:57.278]
We opened five pizzerias.
[00:30:00.281]
[00:30:02.575]
Then Christos came along.
[00:30:04.452]
[00:30:07.372]
My husband -- great man, loved him to death.
[00:30:11.293]
He didn't want anything that I wanted.
[00:30:16.423]
I just couldn't take being ripped apart between kids,
[00:30:20.760]
family, husband.
[00:30:24.806]
I needed to find me.
[00:30:27.184]
♪♪
[00:30:29.019]
So, I was 29, two little kids,
[00:30:34.357]
and in the Greek culture,
[00:30:36.151]
you don't say you're just getting divorced.
[00:30:38.069]
[00:30:41.364]
I went to Mom and Dad's house, explained to them
[00:30:45.285]
that I have to get out of this marriage.
[00:30:49.915]
And they looked at me and said,
[00:30:54.502]
"You've been in it for so many years.
[00:30:56.379]
You have to fix it."
[00:30:58.715]
I heard what they wanted, closed the door,
[00:31:03.303]
and I went on my own.
[00:31:05.305]
♪♪
[00:31:14.522]
-Unless you have a partner, husband or wife,
[00:31:19.069]
that works with you, then you can share the burdens.
[00:31:23.073]
-We had 30 years great together in business,
[00:31:25.075]
and it grew, and, you know...
[00:31:26.952]
But he wanted to retire,
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and I was just in the beginning of kind of,
[00:31:31.081]
you know -- and the TV and the books,
[00:31:33.416]
and I said, "I'm not gonna retire in Italy."
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I couldn't have.
[00:31:37.754]
It would have meant putting me in a prison
[00:31:40.340]
to be away from all of that,
[00:31:41.925]
and I knew that I wouldn't have been happy as an individual.
[00:31:45.470]
-It's such a 24-7 job, you know?
[00:31:47.764]
I used to be the last person that I took care of.
[00:31:50.558]
And I've learned that I need to take care of myself first,
[00:31:53.436]
as well, because I'm not gonna be
[00:31:55.689]
as good for everyone else if I'm completely depleted.
[00:31:59.067]
-If I was to have kids, I would need someone
[00:32:02.070]
who was very supportive and very independent, I think.
[00:32:05.949]
There's always gonna need to be one parent
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that is going to work a lot,
[00:32:10.870]
and I would obviously be that parent,
[00:32:13.331]
and I would be away weird hours,
[00:32:16.209]
so I would really need someone who was super-understanding
[00:32:19.713]
and that was willing to, you know, do that.
[00:32:24.384]
-My support system in my life of Val's Restaurant
[00:32:28.847]
was my mother and father.
[00:32:30.890]
They took care of my kids from the minute
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I left the house in the morning.
[00:32:35.729]
Wake up 6:00.
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I would take Joanna to school, come back home, feed Christos,
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and take him to Yaya's house, who was my mom.
[00:32:47.115]
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I didn't hold it against my parents
[00:32:53.538]
because I knew how bad
[00:32:55.081]
they felt to give everything to my brother.
[00:32:58.626]
They realized they were wrong to think
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I couldn't handle the business because I was a woman.
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♪♪
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...with the jumbo-stuffed shrimp,
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and keep it to the menu.
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So, how is the chowder? I need chowder.
[00:33:19.856]
I always used my voice to expedite the orders,
[00:33:24.194]
so doing that for at least 12 years,
[00:33:30.533]
my vocal cords got tired,
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and so now I have a raspy kind of voice
[00:33:36.873]
from using my voice in the business.
[00:33:40.585]
Constantly talking, constantly giving orders,
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but this is the business.
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You got to talk.
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You've got to move. You've got to do it all.
[00:33:51.930]
But now that we have the POSi, I don't have to talk anymore,
[00:33:54.682]
which is nice.
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I got toasted, right, guy?
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Leslie?!
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[00:34:03.149]
-I was 7 when we opened up over here,
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and then I was, I think, 15
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when I first started actually working,
[00:34:10.782]
so between the years of 7 and 15,
[00:34:13.493]
I'd be riding my Rollerblades around here,
[00:34:16.204]
throwing pieces of dough at,
[00:34:17.872]
like, the dishwashers and, like, the delivery guys.
[00:34:21.209]
She rarely had time to be able to say,
[00:34:23.420]
"All right, Christos. Let's go.
[00:34:26.089]
I'm gonna take you to a Red Sox game."
[00:34:28.341]
And you could tell, you know, she wanted to be there.
[00:34:32.303]
She just felt that she couldn't with this business.
[00:34:35.473]
And is that to say, you know, I care less for her?
[00:34:39.310]
No. Obviously not.
[00:34:40.770]
I understand the sacrifices.
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♪♪
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-Knowing what I went through,
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Christos watched me growing up,
[00:34:59.247]
and he didn't care for this field then.
[00:35:03.626]
He would always say, "Why can't you be home with me?"
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But it's nice to see my son
[00:35:10.925]
be there for me now.
[00:35:14.596]
And here's a picture of when we went to the beach
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every Fourth of July,
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and we closed down for almost a week,
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and that was, like,
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the best time for us to bond as a family.
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-What do you think in terms of that fine line
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between giving it your all in work and career
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and then being a mother
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and trying to have a family and...
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-I just -- I loved it.
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I missed being the mother that -- You know,
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I see other mothers taking their kids here and there.
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I think I did a lot of that with you,
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even though I was always at the restaurant.
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But I think now, with me getting a little older
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and you kids getting a little older --
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I think I'm gonna enjoy my life after
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'cause now it's my turn to enjoy you kids.
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[ Speaking indistinctly ]
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[00:36:12.237]
Are you done?
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[00:36:15.365]
Gigi.
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-I don't remember us sitting out here that much growing up.
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-I worked.
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I don't think we sat out here much.
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But...
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I think it's now nice that I can enjoy it
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with my grandbaby, my grandbaby.
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But...
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Huh? Yeah.
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-[ Babbles ] -Yeah.
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That's yours. -Gigi.
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-Gigi. Is that for you or Gigi?
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I wouldn't want to see you go through what I went through.
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-Our society has a mentality where the man is the provider
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and the woman stay at home, but that needs to change.
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For people that are pregnant or, you know,
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getting married and all that, I think often their boss
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or whoever make them feel that they're wrong to do this.
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If you can't be at work 18 hours a day, and if you want to be --
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you know, have babies, just go have babies.
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-[ Speaking Spanish ]
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-I spent some time with Elena Arzak in Spain,
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and, you know, she has beautiful children.
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And it's beautiful the way we are talking
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about balancing life, about,
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you know, going to work and working very hard
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and traveling and having kids and all that.
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Everything is possible.
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-In Spain, when the woman have her baby,
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they have maternity leave. Then they come back.
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And this has been happening
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in effect since always, and, you know,
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it's good to keep these women because they cook very well.
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And we prefer they stop for a while,
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and then they come back, no?
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-I ask Danny all the time, "How do you balance your,
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you know, worklife and homelife,
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and he has always said
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there's no such thing for him as balance.
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It's all about picking and choosing,
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being in the right place at the right time,
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and when you are there, being all there.
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Years ago, it used to be understood
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that if you joined a restaurant,
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you were committing yourself to a certain lifestyle.
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Ask to go on a vacation with the family,
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the chef says, "No. I'm sorry. I have to work."
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Would you be able to celebrate birthdays or holidays
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on Saturday night because the family is getting together?
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The answer was simply no.
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And now if you look at the flexibility
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that these policies offer our restaurants,
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people are actually able to start families and thrive.
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-I'm 35 years old now,
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and I've been cooking for about 12 years.
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And, yes, one day, I want to have a career and a family,
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and I do think it's possible.
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Working with Mike is great
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because he allows you to make those decisions.
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The company really pays attention to,
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you know, life outside of work.
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-I was probably in a kitchen for 10 or 12 years
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before I even decided to have a kid.
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And I gave birth the week before I turned 40,
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and it was pretty jarring because now, all of a sudden,
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you got to take care of a little baby and work.
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So I took 2 weeks off.
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I was breastfeeding and butchering.
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You know, it was pretty demanding,
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but I always felt like if I'm a success,
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my kids will love me for working as hard as I do.
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-Yeah. -People are gonna like it.
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Do you like the size?
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You think this is a good size for an appetizer?
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-I think it's good. Yeah.
[00:39:39.903]
-When I opened the first restaurant, I had one child.
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I became pregnant, and I worked all of those 9 months.
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And from the kitchen, I went into the dining room.
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Then I ended up with my big belly at the bar.
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And ultimately, my daughter came into the formula,
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and I stayed home, but I needed to go back to the business
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because this is what I loved, this is what I needed.
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We had loans we had to pay.
[00:40:02.092]
And I went to the pediatrician.
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There were no psychiatrists then.
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I didn't know about psychiatrists.
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And I said, "Listen, I have this torment in me.
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I have this uneasiness. I have this beautiful child.
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I'm a mother. I want to stay with her all the time.
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And yet, I have this business, and I'm passionate about it,
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and I want to do that, and I need to do that."
[00:40:22.487]
And he looked straight in the eyes,
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looked me straight in the eyes, and he said,
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"Children want happy parents. Make it happen."
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-I wasn't ready to do this earlier.
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I was a mother of three little girls.
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I lived in the suburbs.
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It's very difficult to devote yourself
[00:40:38.128]
completely to a career like this
[00:40:40.630]
because it's a 7-day-a-week, long hours.
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I sleep with a pad and pencil next to me.
[00:40:45.552]
I make notes in the middle of the night --
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something I might forget, something I want to remember.
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It's very difficult to do that and raise a family
[00:40:53.601]
and be a full-time parent.
[00:40:56.855]
-When I did get divorced, 1992,
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I not only got the business --
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I also had all this debt
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of almost $500,000.
[00:41:13.163]
My ex-husband declared bankruptcy.
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Now it was up to me to either declare bankruptcy
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or go ahead and just fight the fight.
[00:41:21.713]
It was like, "No way in hell am I going bankruptcy."
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So everybody came after me.
[00:41:27.218]
Bill collectors calling me.
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I had lawyers serving me papers.
[00:41:31.723]
[ Sighs ] My credit was terrible.
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With all the creditors calling me --
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I had Liz, a manager.
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She would always take my phone calls.
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She would screen them for me, and then she'd say,
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"These are the ones you have to call."
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-There were no roadblocks that were gonna stop Val.
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-I'm going out!
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-Her energy was unlike anybody else's
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I've ever worked for.
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-Watch your backs, Erica. -Oh, sorry.
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-She put everything she had into it.
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1990, when I opened Pizza Palace, up to 1996,
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coming from nothing to something,
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I felt kind of happy because I built it all by myself.
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I had good girls working for me at that time.
[00:42:14.933]
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And I needed to open something bigger.
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I just drove through town,
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looking at different opportunities
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that I could open a little family restaurant.
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-You know, sitting at the bar then,
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I said, "Val," and she says, "Yes, honey."
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I said, "You want a restaurant?"
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And she says, "What?"
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I says, "You want a restaurant?"
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She always wanted one.
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-He said, "I think your lucky day is today.
[00:42:43.962]
Cricket's down the street just closed."
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-I wanted somebody to go in there
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I didn't have to worry about, you know,
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and I thought Val was the person.
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-He said, "All I want to know -- Is it a yes or a no?"
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I said, "It's definitely a yes," with no money,
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with bills, with two kids, little.
[00:43:07.610]
I said, "What did I just say? Oh!"
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I needed money, and I was reaching out to everybody.
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I walked into this bank.
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I went to give my hand.
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He didn't reach out.
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He said, "There is nothing I can do for you.
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There is no money that I can lend to you."
[00:43:27.589]
I got in the car, and I left.
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I was in shock.
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-I think this is an important subject
[00:43:34.304]
to talk about that it's just,
[00:43:36.306]
often, we're not given the chance
[00:43:40.685]
that perhaps male entrepreneur have.
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-I'm a kid from Southie
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in a housing project, zero education.
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Who is gonna give me money?
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I had an angel investor who happened to be from Hyde Park,
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and he lent me my first $50,000.
[00:43:58.536]
He just loved the idea that I was from South Boston
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and I wasn't a criminal.
[00:44:04.626]
And then it just trickled down from there.
[00:44:07.712]
-I was, in a sense, lucky that the business
[00:44:10.590]
that I opened was with my husband.
[00:44:13.092]
Whenever we needed some fundraising,
[00:44:16.179]
or whenever I wanted an extension or whatever --
[00:44:18.765]
And I particularly recall one time my husband was really ill,
[00:44:22.936]
and I had to meet with the bankers, and I said,
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"Ill or not, you're coming because, otherwise, by myself,
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it's not gonna happen."
[00:44:30.109]
Now, I wasn't a chef by then, you know?
[00:44:32.362]
And then, as we were going to Italy every vacation,
[00:44:35.114]
I would go in the kitchens with different chefs
[00:44:36.741]
that I admired in Italy and apprentice.
[00:44:40.328]
"Maybe the Americans would like the polenta that we make.
[00:44:44.123]
Maybe they would like the risotto."
[00:44:46.209]
And I began inserting things that I would cook at home.
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And before you know it, you know, you have a following.
[00:44:52.590]
The journalists began to come up,
[00:44:54.300]
and in 1981, I became the chef.
[00:44:57.011]
I mean, James Beard came.
[00:44:58.513]
Julia Child came.
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-Julia Child was an inspiration
[00:45:02.809]
for two generations of chefs now.
[00:45:05.895]
[00:45:08.189]
And she was on television, and it was just so exotic.
[00:45:11.901]
No matter what she was making, it was exotic.
[00:45:14.988]
-We're roasting this chicken today on "The French Chef."
[00:45:19.826]
[00:45:22.120]
-Chicken Marsala.
[00:45:25.206]
Okay?
[00:45:26.749]
Come on, Donald. Let's go, babe.
[00:45:28.918]
I'm ready.
[00:45:30.211]
When I first started this business,
[00:45:32.463]
I found a couple of friends that gave me money
[00:45:35.800]
through Visa cards and from their savings.
[00:45:39.095]
That was the beginning of putting everything together
[00:45:42.307]
to make the restaurant happen.
[00:45:44.309]
[00:45:47.979]
So, that's when I said, "I'm gonna go to a bank.
[00:45:51.190]
He eats 6 days a week in my restaurant.
[00:45:54.485]
He knows how hard I work.
[00:45:56.571]
I'm gonna go to him and just see what he can do for me."
[00:46:00.742]
And I went, and this guy was my savior.
[00:46:04.120]
-I knew she had deep character.
[00:46:06.456]
And she had a love for her business and a commitment
[00:46:09.042]
which doesn't come through in someone's FICO score.
[00:46:12.462]
Her credit was really challenging.
[00:46:15.131]
I think she was paying back some of her former husband's bills.
[00:46:17.634]
She had children
[00:46:18.968]
and obviously was struggling to make ends meet.
[00:46:22.430]
She was gonna succeed regardless of the hurdles
[00:46:24.724]
put in front of her, and I think she had a vision
[00:46:26.976]
that sometimes you need to have in this business.
[00:46:29.854]
You see yourself down the road as a success,
[00:46:31.981]
and you find a way to get there.
[00:46:34.233]
She knows how to get the most out of her employees.
[00:46:36.277]
-Oh, good boy.
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-♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
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-Knows how to take care of her customers.
[00:46:40.490]
And she has this personality that just won't quit.
[00:46:42.158]
-Make a wish.
[00:46:43.951]
He took me to different financing businesses,
[00:46:47.872]
and I found my first $150,000,
[00:46:51.417]
which, to me, was like,
[00:46:52.919]
whew, a million.
[00:46:54.462]
[00:46:57.256]
I had good friends who all came down here
[00:47:00.093]
and worked for nothing.
[00:47:01.636]
One was a police officer.
[00:47:03.513]
One was a plumber.
[00:47:04.722]
One was an electrician.
[00:47:07.350]
All I had to do was feed them and put out a keg of beer.
[00:47:11.437]
They're the ones who helped me put this place together.
[00:47:15.858]
-I love the way that your mother started.
[00:47:20.697]
And she gave not only to her family
[00:47:23.825]
and the whole society around,
[00:47:25.910]
and she didn't give only money or jobs.
[00:47:29.664]
She was like an idol for them, believe me.
[00:47:33.376]
If you ask people, I believe that this is the first thing
[00:47:35.878]
that they're gonna tell you.
[00:47:37.672]
-As you get bigger...
[00:47:39.173]
I mean, we employed 10 people back then.
[00:47:42.260]
Now we employ 90.
[00:47:43.845]
So, as you get bigger, it gets harder.
[00:47:47.306]
And because of this business, you become stronger.
[00:47:51.144]
How are you? -Good.
[00:47:52.311]
-You ready to rock 'n' roll? -Yep.
[00:47:53.855]
-I have to protect not only me --
[00:47:56.441]
I have to protect my staff,
[00:47:58.651]
because they make a living here.
[00:48:02.989]
-I started working for your mom, Val,
[00:48:04.699]
in February of 1994 at the old Pizza Palace.
[00:48:07.618]
Everybody here is like my brother and sister
[00:48:09.370]
that I never had.
[00:48:11.038]
You know, even growing up, the last 20 years,
[00:48:13.666]
I've probably spent more time here
[00:48:15.001]
than I have at my own house.
[00:48:17.378]
[00:48:39.484]
-I grew up as a foster kid, you know,
[00:48:43.196]
moved town to town, city to city.
[00:48:45.156]
And Val took me in when I was younger 'cause I needed a job.
[00:48:48.659]
You know, I needed to save money to go to school.
[00:48:50.369]
Really, like, showed a lot of respect for me.
[00:48:52.705]
-We are family. We fight like family.
[00:48:55.541]
We love like family.
[00:48:56.626]
We do everything like family.
[00:48:58.044]
Like, this is family.
[00:48:59.504]
My husband is vacuuming.
[00:49:01.714]
He doesn't even work here, but he's vacuuming.
[00:49:04.091]
-He certainly is.
[00:49:05.885]
-So, what made you come today? -Me.
[00:49:08.221]
[ Laughter ]
[00:49:10.473]
-All I see is business, business, business.
[00:49:13.226]
So, when you start small, and you see customers,
[00:49:17.605]
and they're so happy with you, you want to get a little bigger.
[00:49:20.358]
Enjoy.
[00:49:22.318]
I called a good friend.
[00:49:24.695]
I said, "I need a bank to open Val's function room."
[00:49:28.533]
He said, "I'll bring him there."
[00:49:32.036]
I said, "You don't want me to go to the bank?"
[00:49:33.663]
"You're a big shot now.
[00:49:34.705]
Now I'm bringing the VPs to you."
[00:49:36.374]
The first guy that came in...
[00:49:37.959]
[ Gasps ]
[00:49:39.460]
I looked again.
[00:49:40.503]
I go, "Holy [bleep]
[00:49:43.297]
What the hell is he doing?"
[00:49:45.132]
The guy, 5 years ago, when I needed the money,
[00:49:47.176]
he didn't even acknowledge me.
[00:49:48.678]
He didn't even look at me.
[00:49:50.596]
He didn't even say "good morning."
[00:49:53.850]
Well, guess what.
[00:49:56.394]
Karma is a bitch.
[00:49:58.729]
Five years later, who comes in?
[00:50:01.065]
Mr. [bleep]
[00:50:03.317]
Mr. [bleep]
[00:50:05.278]
"I'm Valerie James, but I think we met before."
[00:50:09.532]
And he looked at me, and he said, "We have?"
[00:50:13.661]
I said, "You don't remember me, but I will never forget you.
[00:50:19.500]
I do not want your money today.
[00:50:21.836]
I want you to sit, have lunch,
[00:50:25.256]
enjoy the atmosphere, and have a good day."
[00:50:29.676]
[00:50:29.677]
-People are pushing for gender parity,
[00:50:32.013]
and they're mobilizing industries
[00:50:34.265]
to really look at the pay gap
[00:50:36.267]
and any obstacles to advancement.
[00:50:38.853]
[ Cheers and applause ]
[00:50:40.647]
-Being the first female Iron Chef, you know,
[00:50:42.524]
that knocked down a bunch of barriers.
[00:50:44.526]
And I've gone out and done all the things
[00:50:48.154]
that most of the top male chefs have done.
[00:50:51.157]
I've created a brand.
[00:50:52.325]
-Iron Chef Cat Cora.
[00:50:53.743]
-Please welcome Cat Cora.
[00:50:55.453]
[ Cheers and applause ]
[00:50:57.205]
-The whole concept of working your way
[00:50:58.331]
up the ranks is like...
[00:50:59.457]
That is kind of old-school, you know?
[00:51:01.709]
That's why those statistics don't show the women
[00:51:05.046]
doing totally different sides of this industry.
[00:51:07.382]
Like, let's say they get into media.
[00:51:09.217]
That's what's really reshaping everything right now.
[00:51:11.761]
♪♪
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[ Indistinct conversations ]
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♪♪
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♪♪
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-One more tuna?
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-Now, doing a dinner like this here,
[00:51:32.991]
it's unbelievable...
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with Christos, my son, as the head chef,
[00:51:37.620]
and my daughter, Joanna, next to me.
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-First course was the Petit Chablis.
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The second course is the Riesling.
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♪♪
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-I don't know why the function room is not ready.
[00:51:52.260]
-Yeah, I know, honey, but you don't need silverware here.
[00:51:54.429]
Yeah.
[00:51:55.805]
Noreen. -Yeah?
[00:51:57.557]
-Help Katie put that on, and make it look pretty.
[00:51:59.476]
You're good now. Now the room is ready.
[00:52:01.478]
I had a heart attack.
[00:52:02.979]
♪♪
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You guys know what to do.
[00:52:11.070]
Just don't be nervous, 'cause I can see it all over you guys.
[00:52:14.574]
Really, you guys are gonna kick it through.
[00:52:17.118]
-Yes, Val. Yes, Val. -All right.
[00:52:19.329]
You ready? -Yep.
[00:52:20.663]
-This is good for you for culinary, right?
[00:52:22.665]
-Yes. -Good.
[00:52:23.708]
-And my hug. -I love you.
[00:52:24.751]
-We're in line for hugs.
[00:52:26.419]
Hold my drink. Thanks, Val.
[00:52:28.463]
-I love you, honey. -I love you.
[00:52:29.547]
-Don't be nervous. -I know.
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-All right?
[00:52:31.674]
Who's coming to my table? -Me.
[00:52:33.343]
-Me. -Oh, good.
[00:52:34.761]
♪♪
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-Coming together as a family to host this dinner
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makes me think of how my mother started out
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and all that she faced...
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everything she had to overcome to get to this point.
[00:52:51.986]
The restaurant is secondary to the woman who built it.
[00:52:55.323]
♪♪
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[ Applause ]
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♪♪
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-I mean, this is a huge honor for us.
[00:53:09.295]
And Val's my mother.
[00:53:11.089]
You know, she built this place 25 years ago,
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and I don't think she ever thought
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that we'd be able to do this.
[00:53:15.552]
-No crying here.
[00:53:18.012]
[ Indistinct conversations ]
[00:53:19.681]
-You all did a wonderful job here.
[00:53:22.725]
Oh!
[00:53:24.185]
♪♪
[00:53:29.482]
-She's like, "Turn the heat up."
[00:53:31.067]
-Yeah. -Poor thing.
[00:53:32.360]
-[ Laughs ]
[00:53:34.237]
What I want is a basting...
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Family means everything to me,
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and I carry that same philosophy in my restaurant.
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I just love to see everyone happy.
[00:53:47.875]
♪♪
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♪♪
[00:54:01.639]
[ Indistinct conversations ]
[00:54:04.517]
-Half of the pig is hanging down.
[00:54:07.437]
♪♪
[00:54:14.944]
♪♪
[00:54:21.200]
-Yep.
[00:54:22.535]
You ready?
[00:54:23.703]
[ Indistinct conversations ]
[00:54:25.830]
[00:54:27.790]
[ Glasses clinking ] -...to have you all here.
[00:54:29.459]
-Health and happiness. -Cheers.
[00:54:31.586]
-Thank you. -Cheers.
[00:54:34.213]
-Cheers, Mariella.
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-So, what do you think?
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My first film, and it's on you. -Yeah.
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[ Voice breaking ] You're gonna make me cry now...
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just because I...
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When you told me you wanted to do this,
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I was a little taken by that, because every mother
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should work hard for their kids 'cause that's what happens.
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Life is a rotation of fathers and mothers
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and grown children that become us.
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And I remember when you were young, you said,
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"Oh, no. I'm never gonna be like you."
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Well, guess what, my girl.
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You are.
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♪♪
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-Mom. -I love you.
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-I love you.
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♪♪
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[ Dog barking ]
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-Gigi.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Distributor: Bullfrog Films
Length: 56 minutes
Date: 2020
Genre: Expository
Language: English
Grade: 7-12, College, Adults
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Closed Captioning: Available
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