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(twinkling music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(crowd chanting in
foreign language)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(crowd cheering)
(speaking in foreign language)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(light upbeat music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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Nice to meet you.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- So if you click
on VJ and CG layer,

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video journalists and
citizen journalists,

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in this view you could see
that how many VJ and CG

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are all in the country, 83.

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But if you look at that
way under our Facebook,

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DVB News Network,
secret group here,

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364 people in the DVB
News Network secret group.

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You can not find it.

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Secret group.

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Most of them are from our
smartphone journalism training.

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Using everything on a smartphone
and taking video footage

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and edit on their
phone and upload

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to the news network right away.

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But we have thousands
and thousands of friends

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want to help DVB.

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(group chattering
in foreign language)

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If you compare to the
other local media,

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we have the biggest
network and whatever happen

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we can show right away.

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You know, something
like a bomb explosion

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or earthquake or
human rights violation

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and corruption and
abusing and then

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people being oppressed, and
we can highlight a little bit.

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(crowd chattering
in foreign language)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(gun firing)
(ominous music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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If I would ask you is there
freedom of press in Myanmar,

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what would you say?

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- Well, we have a
little bit freer press

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than we had, say, three
years ago, five years ago,

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but taking a look at the,

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we have this kind of like
freedom on information index

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produced by (speaking
in foreign language),

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the author from
France, they come up

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with yearly
indicator, the index.

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So we were in 2012, we were
at the bottom of the list,

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170 out of 170 countries.

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Third lowest in terms
of press freedom.

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Now where are we?

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145, not bad.

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Little bit of improvement,

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but we still have
a long way to go.

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There's a local electronic
transaction act.

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With the new parliament there
was some sort of attempt

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to change the law or amend it.

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Formally it was 15 years
for one single email.

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- How do you mean an email?

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One single email?

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- If they found one of your
email had some contents

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which are detrimental
to the state

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of the
- Content, yeah.

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- interest of the
state, blah blah blah,

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maybe you are in touch
with some unlawful groups.

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And one of my friend he's
a movie actor, director,

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he got 60 years in
prison for four emails.

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With the 2010 elections
and the new parliament

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the law has been amended.

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Now it's much more relaxed,

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just seven years for
one email. (chuckles)

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- Okay.
- Formerly

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it was, like, 15 years.

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- Which journalists in
Myanmar are most fragile?

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- We all are. (chuckles)

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There can be a knock
on the door every,

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because think about, I'm
gonna talk about myself.

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In a couple of months
I got a phone call.

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Hey, Tiha Saw, can you
come and see us and chat?

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Lasted 75 days in the prison.

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But they just wanted to
ask me some questions.

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But then it could
happen to anybody.

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Still now they could simply
come knock at your door

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and take you away and then
there would be a trial

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or a judiciary case, etc.

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So, everybody seemed to
be, all working journalists

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seem to be taking the
same kind of risk.

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(suspenseful music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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So upstairs?

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(shop owner mumbles)
Upstairs.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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You think the content
of your journal,

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the topics you write about,

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was the reason why you were
arrested, you and your husband?

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- I think so because
we are Muslims

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and we also write about

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the minority,

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especially about the
Muslims of Myanmar.

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I am Myanmar Muslim but

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I want to know the world,

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the other ethnic
groups of Myanmar,

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that we also have the right.

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The right because we live here,

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we survive here,
and we belong here.

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- [Fidan] Since you got
arrested, are you more careful?

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- Yes.
- About these topics?

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- Yes, now I don't write.

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That piece--
- Not at all?

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- Not at all.

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Not because I was too afraid,

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but because I must take care

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because I have two little son.

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So I think I must take care.

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And when the government change

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and if there is a true democracy

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and a true freedom of
expression, I'm a writer.

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I'm a writer.

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(singing in foreign language)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(suspenseful music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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We heard the story
about Midday Sun,

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about two journalists
were being arrested

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because they quoted,

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they say a democratic
movement, activist group.

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How can that be a reason
to arrest journalists?

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- No, this is a
story, it's like that,

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that activist group
issued a statement,

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but it said this Midday Journal,

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all the local
journalists are reported

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the day after the event.

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So they reported
that on the same day

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the organization issued
the announcement,

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so that means that something
like the prearrangement

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between the people
and this group

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to incite unrest in the public.

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You know even you have to--

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- But that's no press freedom.

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- Journalists is not--
- Journalists should be

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free to write about
what they want.

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- But you are comparing our
situation with your country

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with a long history of the
democratization process.

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You have to clearly understand

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although we make the
reform to the democracy,

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our country's situation
is very fragile.

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There's a lot of conflict,

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not between the
ethnic minority group,

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a conflict between most
of the, some religions,

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so that we are entering
uncharted water.

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And we are facing
the very complex

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and very sensitive situation.

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So sometime the journalists,
not only the journalists,

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all the people, all the
politician have to understand

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that our main intention is
not to insult other people

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or not to incite unrest.

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(ominous music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- [Super] Hi.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(ominous music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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You believe there is a
connection between these monks

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and the police and the military?

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(soft ambient music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(crowd cheers)
(crowd applauds)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(crowd cheers)
(crowd applauds)

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- Do you know Geert Wilders?

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- [Fidan] No.

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- Anti-Muslim?

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- Who is this person
he's talking about?

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- He is anti-Muslim.

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- Okay.
- Yeah.

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- You mean Mr. Wirathu?

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- He asking to you do
you know him or not?

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- [Fidan] No.

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- He is the leader,
the first leader

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in Netherlands and
against the Muslims.

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- Wilders, you mean?

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Geert Wilders.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- Yes, he is.

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- Ah, okay.

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He's a friend of yours?

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- Please.

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- Yeah, I know.

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I mean him, yes.
(speaking in foreign language)

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- Geert Wilders.

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- Do you like him?

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(speaking in foreign language)
- I like him.

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- He like him.

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- Ah, okay.

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Well that's a good start.

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(Wirathu laughs)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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So you said you like Wilders?

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Geert Wilders.

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What do you like about
his thoughts, his ideas?

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- [Translator]
Because he is brave.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- You feel like the government
is cooperative towards you?

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- So the government
listens to you.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(ominous music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- Aung San Suu Kyi got
elected in 2012 May

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and those violence didn't
start until 12 June.

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Can't you imagine that?

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Before that there
were none at all.

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Okay, then maybe some
sort of minor clashes

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and issues and arguments,

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but no major violence at
all before that point.

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And suddenly it
happened one month

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after Aung San Suu
Kyi got elected.

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- What are you saying, that
they're trying to create chaos?

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- Chaos.
- So they could--

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- So that, so that

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the reform process,
- The strong leaders.

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- the reform process
is slowed down.

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And they wanna put our society--

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- But who are they?

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- The ruling guys.

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The ruling party
and the rich guys

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who are associated
with the ruling party.

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- They just want to
create chaos so they can

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slow down the reform.
- So that,

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slow down reform and their
vested interests are protected.

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(ominous music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- [Reporter] We are the
only media reporting live.

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Across the--
- The only? Really?

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- Yes.
- Why?

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- Other broadcasters,

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they will report only
election results.

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- [Fidan] Ahh, okay.

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- Because they are under
control of the government.

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- They could limit you
to do this live also,

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but they're not.

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- They can not because
we are not subject

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to this government law
because we are broadcasting

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from outside.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- He is just monitoring
information coming out

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from all kind of sources.

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Not just from cities,
also from ordinary people.

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- Can I see what he's doing?

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- [Reporter] She
is the one, voter.

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She has not casted her vote,

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but the officer
said she has voted.

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So she is complaining
about that.

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With video evidence.

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- [Fidan] Yeah, yeah.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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(phone rings)
- Okay.

00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:09.400
(speaking in foreign language)

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- [Fidan] Do you believe the
elections are fair until now?

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I didn't have

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the feeling it was fair.
- Relatively.

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Yeah, relatively.

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Relatively.

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Not that bad.
- Yeah.

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- But not error free.

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- [Fidan] No, no.

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- Let me get back to the studio.

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- Yes, sorry.

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Go!

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(ominous ambient music)

00:24:19.760 --> 00:24:20.599
(speaking in foreign language)

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(crowd clapping rhythmically)

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(speaking in foreign language)

00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:14.880
(crowd cheers)

00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:20.599
(crowd roars)

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(speaking in foreign language)

00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:03.599
(crowd cheers)

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- So yesterday was the most
complicated coverage we ever had

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in the history of DVB live
broadcasting experience.

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- How did you feel at
the end of the day?

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- So tired.

00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:28.560
- Yeah, tired.
- We worked

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more than 18 hours yesterday.

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But many of our reporter
got sick, they got tired,

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they got super exhaust.

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People in the street,
now wherever we go,

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you see all of those
satellite dish.

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Really appreciate--
- All the satellite.

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- [Than] Yeah, yeah.

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They come and say thank
you, thank you, thank you.

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- Really, yeah?
- Yeah, they appreciate that.

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- [Fidan] Do you know
how many people watched?

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- One satellite dish mean
one person, one viewer,

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that might be eight
million to 10 millions.

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- Okay.

00:28:03.040 --> 00:28:04.480
- But in some remote area
one satellite dish mean

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hundreds of people watching
in a restaurant, empty house.

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- You feel like you
could help yesterday?

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- Um, yeah.

00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:14.880
- Yeah?

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Or any time now.

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- Yeah, I think
we are as a media,

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we are seriously
helping democratization.

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We are seriously helping this
check and balance system,

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the democracy system
newly forming gradually,

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slowly forming.
- Controlling the power.

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- Yeah.

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- You think that if
NLD wins this elections

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will there be major changes?

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Or you think everybody is
exaggerating and it will--

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- I,

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yeah, we have our information,

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we receive information NLD
is winning in some township.

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But we can't conclude
at all for the moment

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with, okay, how many
different scenarios--

00:28:56.840 --> 00:28:57.600
(speaking in foreign language)

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(bright orchestral music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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Were you born here?

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- Mandalay?
- Yeah.

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- When did you come here?

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- Okay.

00:30:05.360 --> 00:30:06.120
(speaking in foreign language)

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Was it okay?
- Yeah.

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- [Fidan] Oh.

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- He lost?
- Yeah.

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- They lost, okay.

00:31:51.320 --> 00:31:51.800
(somber music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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I was wondering now we met you,

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people hold you
responsible for stirring up

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the violence in the
region's ethnic conflict.

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How do you feel about that?

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Do you know this and how
do you think about this?

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- My party and me also

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very worried.

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We are trying to, you know,

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solve this kind of problem.

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- [Fidan] To solve it.

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- To solve it.
- But what do you think

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about it?

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They say you started it.

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The violence.

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- Yes, we have so
many experience.

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- [Fidan] But do you
feel responsible?

00:32:48.800 --> 00:32:49.280
- Yes.

00:32:49.760 --> 00:32:50.480
- Yes?
- Yes.

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My party also.

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- Yeah, really?
- Responsible

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to solve this kind of problem.

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- [Fidan] Not
responsible to make

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this kind of trouble I mean.

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No?
- No, no, no.

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- We must try to stop
this kind of violence.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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You are not a Muslim and
your people, Rakhines,

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were also killed
in these massacres.

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Isn't it difficult, wasn't
it difficult for you

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to write without emotions?

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Weren't you sad or angry or,

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what did you feel?

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- You can't do the Muslim area?

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- Because they
don't want you there

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or because you don't want it.

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- They don't wanna talk to you.

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(ominous ambient music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- After the violence,

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when medias and
international communities

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were interested in
the Rohingya issue,

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they all were watching, they
all were keeping in touch,

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and we used to keep in
touch with the foreigners,

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with the journalists and
we used to use internet,

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but not good
internet connection.

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Very poor connection and we had,

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especially for me, I
have to wait for about

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two or three hours to
complete, how shall I say,

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to upload an information
that happen somewhere.

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- [Fidan] How do you feel?

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How do you,
mentally, physically?

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- Yeah, as for me I
feel it is very bad.

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I also feel that
there is no future

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for the Rohingya community
as well as for me

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'cause you know that
current government

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is not doing
anything good for us.

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.040
They are just trying
to keep us here.

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They are just, this is kind
of making slow genocide.

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They are making genocide,

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like systematically
making genocide.

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So I hope if NLD win, if NLD
can form a new government

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so NLD will do a
little bit good for us.

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I just hope on that.

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The party that tortured
the Rohingya lost.

00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:35.040
(speaking in foreign language)

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(ominous music)
(birds squawking)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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So during the massacres
you used the word Bengali

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in your reports.

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At DVB they change
it into Rohingyas.

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You said they make
their accounts here

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angry at you.

00:37:32.720 --> 00:37:34.080
- What did they say?
- Because they don't know.

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- Because it...

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(ominous ambient music)

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(speaking in foreign language)

00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:33.599
(crowd shouting)

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(speaking in foreign language)

00:38:42.680 --> 00:38:43.840
(crowd shouting in
foreign language)

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- What I noticed is it's
a very sensitive subject

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here in Myanmar,

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the Rohingyas.

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I was thinking,

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how will it be?

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Because I talked to Rakhine,
I talked to Rohingyas,

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I talked to Muslims
and I was thinking

00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:18.080
at DVB probably there are
different opinions, too.

00:39:23.080 --> 00:39:24.280
Maybe someone likes to
use the word Rohingyas,

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the other one doesn't
like to use the Rohingyas.

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(Than grunts)

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I was thinking maybe
that gives a conflict.

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- Yeah, yeah.

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- On the editorial?

00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:38.720
- Yeah.

00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:54.400
- Scared.
- Yeah.

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- Do you see your
future in Myanamar?

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- And kids and family and DVB?

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(somber music)
(diners chattering)

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(speaking in foreign language)

00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:41.360
(crowd cheering)