In the face of rising sea levels due to climate change, Kiribati President…
Washed Away

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Climatologists fear that global warming will cause ocean levels to rise so drastically that whole islands will be submerged. In Washed Away, we meet two island communities struggling to prevent the disappearance of land they have lived on for centuries. For residents of Shishmaref, Alaska, in the Far North, and tropical Tuvalu, a small country in the South Pacific, the situation grows more urgent every day. Scientist believe that unless we reduce our consumption of fossil fuels, even the island of Manhattan is at risk because of rising water levels caused by climate change. Can something be done to prevent these impending catastrophes? Arctic Mission is a collection of five documentary films that explore the impact of global warming on Canada's North.
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Main credits
Henríquez, Patricio (film director)
Henríquez, Patricio (screenwriter)
Michel, Eric (film producer)
Lemire, Jean (screenwriter)
Lemire, Jean (film producer)
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Cinematography, Sylvestre Guidi; picture editing, Michel Grou; original music, Hervé Postic.
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Indigenous Studies - Issues, Developing Countries - Environment and Conservation, Environment and Conservation - Indigenous Concerns, Environment and Conservation - Environmental Perspectives, Foreign Countries - United States, Geography - Environmental Issues, Geography and Geology - Climate, Inuit - Environmental Issues, Inuit - Traditional way of life, Science - Life Systems/Ecology, Social Studies - Environmental Challenges, DocumentaryKeywords
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- Well, I\'m waiting
for the seals to come around.
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I\'m waiting for my dinner,
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but they\'re not coming around
at all.
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Normally we have a lot of seals
here this time of the year,
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but either they\'re very late
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coming down from up north, or...
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It\'s just been so warm.
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It\'s October 12th now.
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Normally most of this ocean
water in the lagoon
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would be frozen,
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but, uh, it\'s not even showing
any signs of freezing up.
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We hear a lot
about this global warming,
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and we certainly believe
that it\'s happening,
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because we\'re having
a lot of problems
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with very high water
from the ocean,
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the water level rising,
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eroding our island away.
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(radio): Shishmaref, Kivalina
and Red Dog Port,
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about 8 with numerous showers
and areas of fog.
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Highs in the lower 40s
to lower 50s.
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Southwest winds,
5 to 15 miles per hour.
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That\'s the climate information
for today.
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The normal high for today,
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60 degrees.
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The normal low for today,
49 degrees.
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Sunrise this morning
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was at 3:28 a.m.
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Sunset will be at 2:28 a.m.,
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early Friday, giving us
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22 hours and 58 minutes
of possible sunshine,
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and that is a loss
of 1 minute and 2 seconds
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from yesterday.
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You are listening to KOTZ radio.
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- You can use a white base
in here.
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Yeah, instead of the black one.
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- We\'re finishing off
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our emergency project
as a result from the storm,
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from last October 5 to 7,
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and they\'ll run from this end
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all the way
to the centre of town,
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which is about 406 feet.
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That\'s good enough.
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Uh, Chris...
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What we\'re putting in right now
is only temporary protection.
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So it all depends on the storm.
Each year it\'s worse.
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You can see the gabions
we put in last year,
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you can see how much footage
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that we\'ve lost since last Fall.
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- The projections in Alaska
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are for much greater amounts
of warming.
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There will be less snow cover,
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and so there will
actually be then...
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The darker earth will warm
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and amplify
the warming signal there.
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And so, let\'s look at the 2050s,
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the range
is from three to four degrees,
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in the 2080s,
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and in the highest scenario,
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it\'s going all the way up
to seven degrees C.
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This is huge amounts of warming.
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(radio): Cloud and showers
continue to affect it...
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And the forecast for tonight:
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mostly cloudy
with occasional showers.
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West to northwest winds:
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10 to 15 knots
prior to thunderstorms.
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(thunder rumbling)
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- This line here
used to be there;
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along there,
where the gabion baskets are.
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Now the shoreline
is about 3 metres inland.
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Land in Tuvalu is not growing,
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instead it\'s getting
lesser and lesser
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with the rising sea level.
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- Tuvalu
is a very low-lying atoll;
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it\'s only three to four metres
high on top of the water.
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When you have a rising sea level
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growing up over the years,
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it is a threat,
it is a real threat
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to the lands that we have now.
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Even in one of the islands
that used to be there,
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Tepuka,
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it\'s now the whole islet
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where you used to have
bigger trees and...
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it\'s all gone.
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Now it\'s just a reef;
no more land there.
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It\'s very sad to see,
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part of the islands
disappearing, you know,
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Where I used to play
is disappearing away,
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never to appear again,
I don\'t know.
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- We see
for the South Pacific site,
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not as great amounts of warming
for the island itself
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as we saw in Alaska.
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But both will be subject
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to the global sea-level rise.
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Probably these are
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the most vulnerable places
across the whole earth,
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in terms of human habitation.
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These are on the front lines
of the global warming,
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and as you\'ve seen,
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and the inhabitants
of these islands are seeing,
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these effects are already
starting to happen.
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(radio): Plenty of sunshine
for the afternoon hours.
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It\'ll stay chilly though;
high, 36.
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Watch for the freezing
of wet areas
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in the evening.
Clear and cold tonight.
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About 24, midtown;
16 in many suburbs.
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It should drop
into the single digits
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in some of the
coldest suburbs...
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This with snow cover.
It\'s very common
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to happen all across
the Midwest.
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Sunshine, not as cold tomorrow;
high, 42.
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- This is
the Rockaway Peninsula.
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It\'s on the southeast side
of New York City,
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so Manhattan is over that way.
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In fact, we\'re standing here on
what\'s called a barrier island,
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and barrier islands
are very important
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in this part of the world.
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They\'re big chunks of sand
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that protect
the inhabited areas...
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As we see over there,
very densely inhabited...
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From storms and from tides.
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The problem is
that in the future,
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global warming will bring about
further sea-level rise
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and sea-level rise gradually
eats away at the sand,
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erodes it or submerges it,
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and over time,
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these barrier islands will not
just move towards the mainland,
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they may gradually disappear.
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Right around here.
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Let\'s see, 42, 48,
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51, 54, 60...
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Okay.
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So let me show you.
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This is maybe a foot higher than
at the edge of the water, okay?
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If the sea level
goes up two feet,
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which is kind of
the average prediction
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for the end of the century,
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then right up to here
is completely taken away.
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When the storms come in,
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it pushes the water three,
four, five...
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In a hundred years,
it\'s 10 feet higher.
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Well, 10 feet is, you know...
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it\'s all the way back
to where those stores are.
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So during the storms, this will
all be flooded, the whole thing.
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(TV): New York City,
flooded to a depth of many feet,
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staggers under the fury
of a 100-mile-an-hour hurricane
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lashing America\'s
Atlantic seaboard.
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Along the exposed waterfront,
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homes are ripped
from their foundation
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to become a shattered mess
of floating debris.
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Thousands are made homeless
by the swelling waters
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and while the evacuation
of families goes on,
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a state of emergency
is proclaimed in New York.
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LaGuardia Airport,
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under 3 feet of water,
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becomes more like a mooring
for flying boats
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than New York\'s
busiest airfield.
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- New York City
has three major airports,
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and all of them sit very close
to the sea level.
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The airports always flooded
during major storms
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that are typical of happening
once every 100 years.
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The trouble is,
that in the future,
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those 100-year floods may happen
as often as almost every year.
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And you can see that right here,
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this causeway which carries
the subway out to Rockaway
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is built very close to sea level
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and already, in storms,
it would be flooded.
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This is just an indication
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of all the very expensive
infrastructure
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that was built right close
to sea level
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by people who didn\'t realize
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that sea-level rise
would ever be a problem.
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(radio): Thousands of people
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were evacuated
as America\'s northeast coast
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was hit by the worst storms
in over a generation.
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Governors in three states
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declared emergencies.
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New Jersey took the brunt with
winds up to 90 miles an hour
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and with tides
five feet higher than normal.
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Getting around was precarious
as New Yorkers battled
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hurricane-force winds
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and the city subway system
was closed.
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Those who had to travel
had to find their own means.
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- What you see on the screen
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are two simulations
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of the models
of two possible futures.
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The one on the right
is for lower amounts,
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and this one
is for higher amounts,
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of greenhouse-gas
emissions.
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We never just do one projection,
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because if you do
one projection,
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you are going to start
to believe it.
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\"Oh, yes, this is our
prediction of the future.\"
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We always look
at a range of projections...
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In this case 2, but in other
cases, 3, 4, 5 and many.
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Because we need to know
the range
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from the best case
to also the worst case;
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what we call them
is \"scenarios of the future.\"
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Now, there we see
greater amounts of warming,
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leading in the 2080s
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to three-and-a-half degrees
of warming here,
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which is a considerable amount
of warming.
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I think all the islands are both
facing very serious threat,
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from the...
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and vulnerability
to the sea-level rise.
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That\'s what we identified
in our coastal city of New York.
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But these levels are so high,
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that it\'s really, potentially,
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very, very different
ways of life.
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So it\'s definitely a concern.
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Definitely, I would say.
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Definitely a concern.
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- Ready?
- Yeah.
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- Come on. This way.
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I first got interested
in this whole thing
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when I was a little boy. I used
to be fascinated by weather,
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I used to stare out the window
with the snow falling.
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And I use to keep
a little weather journal.
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So I\'ve always been
kind of a weather nut.
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- Well, we\'ve had no snow
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for at least two years,
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so the last time he went
sledding he was two years old;
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he\'s four now, so
that\'s half of his entire life
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that he hasn\'t been sledding,
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and we don\'t know
when there\'ll be snow again,
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so we really wanted
to take advantage of today
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and go sledding, because
this is the first
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really nice snowfall we\'ve had
in, as I said, two years.
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- Let me go!
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- No, we\'ll do it together.
Just sit right here.
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(humming)
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- This is the start
of my garden.
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From there, to there,
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and to the end,
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and it goes far up
the other side.
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Come around.
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When I come down
to my traditional garden,
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it\'s a place
where I can sort of get away
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from the new type of life,
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sort of trying to get there.
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When I get down to work
at something
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which is the actual thing
that... I live on that.
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Even if I don\'t get any pay
from anywhere,
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I can still live with this.
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(whispering)
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When I work, I talk to myself,
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I talk to the plants.
I even say,
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\"I plant this for my
grandchildren, for my children.\"
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This one,
I started working since 1978.
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But then, there have been
problems with it.
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They go brown,
because probably of the sea;
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from underneath
the level of the sea.
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You can see now
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the earth is wet.
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And the level of the sea,
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of the sea-salt water
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is up somewhere there;
up and down.
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Because it\'s too salty,
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it\'s started to be brown,
every plant,
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so I had to go higher.
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- There is one thing
I don\'t understand,
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is how some of these things
have managed...
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- I always just do it,
trial and error.
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- I always have a cigarette!
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- That\'s in the lagoon
in front of the coral,
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almost to the left a little bit.
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- You got to shoot them
from the boat?
00:18:47.999 --> 00:18:52.625
- Yeah. I tried
with a pistol at first.
00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.040
- I\'ve never forgotten
00:18:59.041 --> 00:19:03.124
what my grandpa said to me.
00:19:03.125 --> 00:19:06.916
\"Always ask people
if they\'re hungry.
00:19:06.917 --> 00:19:09.124
If they\'re hungry, feed them.\"
00:19:09.125 --> 00:19:10.916
And he said,
00:19:10.917 --> 00:19:12.874
\"Never ask for pay, either.
00:19:12.875 --> 00:19:15.582
Because your pay is gonna be
when you go hunting
00:19:15.583 --> 00:19:17.416
the game\'s gonna be
easy to get.\"
00:19:17.417 --> 00:19:20.998
Of course,
when we were growing up,
00:19:20.999 --> 00:19:23.833
there was no such thing as...
00:19:23.834 --> 00:19:27.290
You tell somebody
to haul you water,
00:19:27.291 --> 00:19:28.791
we didn\'t ask them, as kids,
00:19:28.792 --> 00:19:32.833
\"How much are you going
to pay me?\" We just did it.
00:19:32.834 --> 00:19:38.083
For the sake of being
a community member, so...
00:19:48.375 --> 00:19:53.124
- Lifestyle nowadays
is a lot different, you know.
00:19:53.125 --> 00:19:56.874
Grandparents and parents
were so strict
00:19:56.875 --> 00:19:58.499
in this community,
00:19:58.500 --> 00:20:01.332
there used to be
a 3-foot-wide path
00:20:01.333 --> 00:20:02.291
that everybody walked down,
00:20:02.292 --> 00:20:06.707
and on the side of that little
path that people walked on,
00:20:06.708 --> 00:20:08.998
there was flowers, grass...
00:20:08.999 --> 00:20:12.624
It was a beautiful little town.
00:20:12.625 --> 00:20:15.375
But nowadays it\'s all sand.
00:20:16.417 --> 00:20:20.582
I heard that there\'s
quite a bit of money
00:20:20.583 --> 00:20:23.249
to dig out the coffins
and move them.
00:20:23.250 --> 00:20:26.998
And from what I understand,
00:20:26.999 --> 00:20:30.332
there is more money
to move the dead
00:20:30.333 --> 00:20:35.875
than to save
the live ones, so...
00:20:38.375 --> 00:20:40.666
- Can you give me a hand, here?
00:20:40.667 --> 00:20:43.541
We gotta turn it around.
00:20:43.542 --> 00:20:46.457
We\'re having a public meeting.
00:20:46.458 --> 00:20:50.916
It\'s a meeting to update
the public on our...
00:20:50.917 --> 00:20:56.999
erosion and relocation issues.
00:21:02.417 --> 00:21:05.708
This is Shishmaref here.
00:21:06.333 --> 00:21:09.998
And these sites are
the potential evacuation sites
00:21:09.999 --> 00:21:14.166
that we\'re going to be doing
soil studies.
00:21:17.708 --> 00:21:20.999
- Hi.
- Hi.
00:21:28.125 --> 00:21:31.792
- Long time no see.
- Good to see you.
00:21:43.708 --> 00:21:47.040
- Today is Wednesday, July 10th,
00:21:47.041 --> 00:21:51.791
and I\'ll call this meeting
to order.
00:21:51.792 --> 00:21:54.707
At 12:45,
00:21:54.708 --> 00:21:56.124
I\'ll ask
00:21:56.125 --> 00:22:00.249
Pastor Tim Oslovich
to do the invocation.
00:22:00.250 --> 00:22:04.208
- Let us pray.
00:22:09.250 --> 00:22:12.749
Lord our God, our creator,
maker of Heaven and Earth,
00:22:12.750 --> 00:22:14.791
we give you thanks
00:22:14.792 --> 00:22:16.998
that you continue
to watch over us
00:22:16.999 --> 00:22:18.998
and protect us in these days
00:22:18.999 --> 00:22:20.998
when we fear storms on the sea.
00:22:20.999 --> 00:22:24.999
We pray that you will continue
to guide our coalition
00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:26.874
as they make decisions.
00:22:26.875 --> 00:22:29.998
We pray, too
for people who make decisions
00:22:29.999 --> 00:22:30.999
in other places,
00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:32.998
people at the state
and federal government,
00:22:32.999 --> 00:22:35.998
that you will give them wisdom
and compassion
00:22:35.999 --> 00:22:37.290
to help us with our problems.
00:22:37.291 --> 00:22:41.165
And we ask, Lord, that you would
bless us as we gather today
00:22:41.166 --> 00:22:43.541
so that your spirit
would be with us,
00:22:43.542 --> 00:22:44.998
that we might make
good decisions
00:22:44.999 --> 00:22:49.541
and be encouraged to do
your work and save our village.
00:22:49.542 --> 00:22:50.999
Amen.
00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.166
- Thank you, Pastor Tim.
00:22:59.291 --> 00:23:02.458
(singing religious hymn)
00:23:37.291 --> 00:23:41.207
- I do not know
what is going to happen
00:23:41.208 --> 00:23:43.998
if these islands are submerged.
00:23:43.999 --> 00:23:47.040
Where are we going
to be relocated?
00:23:47.041 --> 00:23:49.833
That I do not know now
00:23:49.834 --> 00:23:52.998
and I haven\'t made
any arrangements for it.
00:23:52.999 --> 00:23:56.998
- The possibility
to be moved, yes.
00:23:56.999 --> 00:24:00.124
I think it will be
very, very hard,
00:24:00.125 --> 00:24:01.916
especially for us older people
00:24:01.917 --> 00:24:04.998
who have been brought up
here, you know.
00:24:04.999 --> 00:24:09.874
And also because
it was our country,
00:24:09.875 --> 00:24:11.499
our land and everything.
00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:15.290
It\'s our country,
it\'s my land, this.
00:24:15.291 --> 00:24:17.207
If I move away,
00:24:17.208 --> 00:24:19.165
I have to sort of...
00:24:19.166 --> 00:24:21.290
get used to another type of land
00:24:21.291 --> 00:24:25.374
and because it doesn\'t belong
to me from the start,
00:24:25.375 --> 00:24:26.541
it belongs to other people,
00:24:26.542 --> 00:24:32.458
I have to follow their way
of life. I suppose I have to.
00:24:41.166 --> 00:24:44.666
- The Tuvalu people
are a Christian people
00:24:44.667 --> 00:24:45.998
and they believe in God.
00:24:45.999 --> 00:24:47.998
They believe that God
created these islands
00:24:47.999 --> 00:24:49.998
and they\'re going
to remain here forever.
00:24:49.999 --> 00:24:54.582
Personally, I, too,
also believe in that.
00:24:54.583 --> 00:24:57.750
(singing religious hymn)
00:25:32.542 --> 00:25:35.165
- We like the local food here...
00:25:35.166 --> 00:25:37.541
The fish, the seal, the ducks...
00:25:37.542 --> 00:25:42.457
And if we have to move to a
different village or something,
00:25:42.458 --> 00:25:45.916
then we\'re gonna miss
our own food here.
00:25:45.917 --> 00:25:46.999
That\'s our biggest concern.
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:49.958
We don\'t want move away
from this area.
00:25:49.959 --> 00:25:52.916
- This where the new village
is gonna be,
00:25:52.917 --> 00:25:54.999
behind them hills.
New Shishmaref!
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.998
So maybe behind
those hills some place,
00:25:59.999 --> 00:26:02.374
will be new Shishmaref
for you kids.
00:26:02.375 --> 00:26:03.998
When you get married,
00:26:03.999 --> 00:26:07.999
you\'ll have new houses,
new village. Ha! Ha! Ha!
00:26:11.625 --> 00:26:15.499
- The new village is going
to have to be at least
00:26:15.500 --> 00:26:18.124
two or three miles away
from this coast,
00:26:18.125 --> 00:26:19.791
which means
00:26:19.792 --> 00:26:21.499
that the docking of our boats,
00:26:21.500 --> 00:26:23.998
we\'re going to have to have
roads to have access
00:26:23.999 --> 00:26:27.958
to where our boats
are docked in this bay.
00:26:27.959 --> 00:26:30.416
So it\'s going to be
a different lifestyle.
00:26:30.417 --> 00:26:34.208
We\'re just going to have
to adapt to it.
00:27:39.291 --> 00:27:43.124
- Of course,
there\'s pollution all over.
00:27:43.125 --> 00:27:47.791
In our waters,
on the land, in the air.
00:27:47.792 --> 00:27:49.999
So that has a lot of effect
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.499
on all the animals and wildlife
00:27:52.500 --> 00:27:55.542
that we depend on up here.
00:27:57.458 --> 00:27:58.998
I\'m sure it comes from...
00:27:58.999 --> 00:28:02.998
It\'s not coming from here,
its coming from somewhere else.
00:28:02.999 --> 00:28:06.998
Big cities possibly,
00:28:06.999 --> 00:28:09.416
maybe factories,
00:28:09.417 --> 00:28:13.541
and a lot of other things
that happened years ago,
00:28:13.542 --> 00:28:16.707
which is causing it...
00:28:16.708 --> 00:28:18.998
to occur now,
00:28:18.999 --> 00:28:22.250
the way I see it.
00:28:42.291 --> 00:28:44.249
- A very wide variety
of human activities
00:28:44.250 --> 00:28:47.082
lead to the emissions
of the greenhouse gases,
00:28:47.083 --> 00:28:51.207
but the most important ones
are the burning of coal,
00:28:51.208 --> 00:28:53.874
oil, and natural gas,
00:28:53.875 --> 00:28:55.416
which powers our society.
00:28:55.417 --> 00:28:57.833
More then three-quarters
of the energy
00:28:57.834 --> 00:28:59.165
that humans produce and use
00:28:59.166 --> 00:29:01.998
comes from the burning
of fossil fuels
00:29:01.999 --> 00:29:03.374
and this produces
carbon dioxide.
00:29:03.375 --> 00:29:06.624
The reason for that
is the fossil fuels themselves
00:29:06.625 --> 00:29:09.998
originate in plants
that took carbon dioxide
00:29:09.999 --> 00:29:13.290
out of the atmosphere,
long ago, millions of years ago,
00:29:13.291 --> 00:29:14.582
and were buried
deep underground.
00:29:14.583 --> 00:29:18.374
Now that human beings
are pulling up in the space
00:29:18.375 --> 00:29:20.040
of two- or three-hundred years,
00:29:20.041 --> 00:29:22.374
millions of years
of carbon sediments
00:29:22.375 --> 00:29:24.082
and we\'re turning them
into carbon dioxide,
00:29:24.083 --> 00:29:28.332
and that is going to have a
profound effect on the climate.
00:29:28.333 --> 00:29:30.998
So every time
you turn on the switch
00:29:30.999 --> 00:29:32.998
to make a refrigerator run
00:29:32.999 --> 00:29:34.998
or an electric light bulb
turn on,
00:29:34.999 --> 00:29:37.998
at the power-plant end
of the wires,
00:29:37.999 --> 00:29:40.416
usually carbon dioxide
is produced.
00:29:40.417 --> 00:29:41.833
So this is very fundamental
00:29:41.834 --> 00:29:44.916
to almost all our activities...
Heating homes,
00:29:44.917 --> 00:29:46.998
running factories, you name it,
00:29:46.999 --> 00:29:49.165
carbon dioxide
is basically involved
00:29:49.166 --> 00:29:51.583
in the equation somewhere.
00:29:53.834 --> 00:29:55.959
Okay?
00:30:11.999 --> 00:30:13.998
This is a nice
16-, 17-pound turkey
00:30:13.999 --> 00:30:17.998
and to cook it
without any stuffing
00:30:17.999 --> 00:30:19.833
would take maybe two hours,
00:30:19.834 --> 00:30:22.791
but I\'m going to put
all of this stuffing in it,
00:30:22.792 --> 00:30:24.416
and then it\'s going to take
three hours.
00:30:24.417 --> 00:30:27.998
And the reason is, that instead
of just having this shell,
00:30:27.999 --> 00:30:29.541
this thin shell of meat,
00:30:29.542 --> 00:30:31.998
you\'ve got all this
other stuff on the inside
00:30:31.999 --> 00:30:33.916
that has to be heated up.
00:30:33.917 --> 00:30:35.958
And that\'s a lot like the earth
00:30:35.959 --> 00:30:37.707
with regard to global warming.
00:30:37.708 --> 00:30:39.998
The atmosphere
is a very thin shell
00:30:39.999 --> 00:30:41.499
and actually if all we had...
00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:43.998
if the whole story
was the greenhouse effect,
00:30:43.999 --> 00:30:46.541
the atmosphere
would heat up very quickly...
00:30:46.542 --> 00:30:48.582
Almost immediately,
essentially...
00:30:48.583 --> 00:30:50.998
In response
to the buildup of gases.
00:30:50.999 --> 00:30:52.666
But that\'s not what happens.
00:30:52.667 --> 00:30:56.624
Because the oceans act
a lot like the stuffing...
00:30:56.625 --> 00:31:00.290
They kind of are
this huge, additional mass,
00:31:00.291 --> 00:31:01.457
which the shell,
00:31:01.458 --> 00:31:05.499
the thin shell of the atmosphere
is in contact with...
00:31:05.500 --> 00:31:07.707
There\'s a lag, an inertia.
00:31:07.708 --> 00:31:10.249
(TV): It wasn\'t my fault.
00:31:10.250 --> 00:31:12.582
The heating
corresponding to the buildup
00:31:12.583 --> 00:31:16.707
can drag out 30, 40, 50 years
or longer.
00:31:16.708 --> 00:31:18.999
The second consequence is
that when you finally are able
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.916
to start limiting the amounts
of the gases in the atmosphere,
00:31:22.917 --> 00:31:24.749
there\'s a long lag
00:31:24.750 --> 00:31:26.582
between the actions
you might take,
00:31:26.583 --> 00:31:31.125
in terms of limiting emissions,
and the effect on temperature.
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.124
You have to think decades,
00:31:37.125 --> 00:31:38.998
and centuries even, in advance,
00:31:38.999 --> 00:31:42.165
but it\'s starting to become
apparent to most scientists
00:31:42.166 --> 00:31:44.165
that if we don\'t act soon,
00:31:44.166 --> 00:31:45.998
there is an increasing risk
00:31:45.999 --> 00:31:49.542
that something
will go seriously awry.
00:31:50.458 --> 00:31:53.998
- It\'s only when we put in
the realistic increase
00:31:53.999 --> 00:31:56.582
in the greenhouse gases
that we have observed,
00:31:56.583 --> 00:32:00.499
that we can then do
an accurate simulation
00:32:00.500 --> 00:32:02.582
of the temperature warming,
00:32:02.583 --> 00:32:04.749
of the warming
that we\'ve had so far.
00:32:04.750 --> 00:32:06.791
And this is one
of the major reasons
00:32:06.792 --> 00:32:09.998
why the scientists are bringing
forward the issue,
00:32:09.999 --> 00:32:11.998
that global warming is real.
00:32:11.999 --> 00:32:13.749
Because in our scientific
understanding,
00:32:13.750 --> 00:32:18.791
we cannot explain what we see
unless we put in those gases.
00:32:18.792 --> 00:32:21.416
- Hi. Good to see you.
- Good to see you.
00:32:21.417 --> 00:32:24.998
- The other ones
are lagging as usual.
00:32:24.999 --> 00:32:27.291
(chitchatting)
00:32:32.708 --> 00:32:35.165
- Okay, that\'s ready.
00:32:35.166 --> 00:32:38.499
- You publish both articles...
00:32:38.500 --> 00:32:39.998
- Yeah, both monthly updates.
Right.
00:32:39.999 --> 00:32:42.416
So if you\'re interested
in weather events
00:32:42.417 --> 00:32:44.749
that are happening
around the world...
00:32:44.750 --> 00:32:47.541
Droughts here or big storms
there or El Nino,
00:32:47.542 --> 00:32:49.916
or whatever is happening
with the coral reefs somewhere,
00:32:49.917 --> 00:32:52.874
or something like that...
I will throw that in.
00:32:52.875 --> 00:32:54.999
- Can I have big napkins
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.998
so they can wipe their faces?
- That\'s a good idea.
00:32:57.999 --> 00:33:00.541
Why don\'t you put them
on top of the plates.
00:33:00.542 --> 00:33:03.249
- Michael and I were saying
on Friday afternoon
00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:06.124
that for us, and I\'m sure
for you too,
00:33:06.125 --> 00:33:07.998
that it\'s been...
00:33:07.999 --> 00:33:10.457
something that we\'ve been
talking about
00:33:10.458 --> 00:33:11.749
for a long time,
00:33:11.750 --> 00:33:14.666
projecting, you know, into
the end of the 21th century,
00:33:14.667 --> 00:33:17.998
to have it be happening
so visibly,
00:33:17.999 --> 00:33:19.998
so concretely already,
00:33:19.999 --> 00:33:23.290
with beginning to have
these downstream effects,
00:33:23.291 --> 00:33:25.998
is actually quite amazing,
I think, for us,
00:33:25.999 --> 00:33:29.791
who have been working
in the area for a long time.
00:33:29.792 --> 00:33:30.625
- Well, it\'s a weird mixture
00:33:30.626 --> 00:33:33.541
of both very disturbing and
gratifying at the same time.
00:33:33.542 --> 00:33:35.624
You know, it\'s very scary,
00:33:35.625 --> 00:33:39.499
because, you know,
whatever is happening now to us
00:33:39.500 --> 00:33:40.998
is going to be, you know,
00:33:40.999 --> 00:33:43.374
10 times, 100 times worse
for our kids.
00:33:43.375 --> 00:33:48.916
I just feel sometimes outraged
and upset for their sake,
00:33:48.917 --> 00:33:50.582
if not for my own sake,
00:33:50.583 --> 00:33:52.998
that we\'re giving them
this horrible legacy
00:33:52.999 --> 00:33:58.959
that they\'re going to have
to deal with one way or another.
00:34:04.792 --> 00:34:07.124
- That\'s right. I remember...
00:34:07.125 --> 00:34:10.458
There\'s some gravy...
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.749
- Are you gonna pull it back
or what?
00:35:55.750 --> 00:35:56.708
- Huh?
00:35:56.709 --> 00:35:58.457
- Are you gonna pull it
back now?
00:35:58.458 --> 00:36:00.374
- No, they\'re just lifting it
up a foot,
00:36:00.375 --> 00:36:01.916
so when they come back
in November...
00:36:01.917 --> 00:36:04.667
they don\'t want it
frozen to the ground.
00:36:15.208 --> 00:36:18.999
Every storm, it gets worse,
you know.
00:36:19.583 --> 00:36:22.666
Yeah, they moved
those two houses down there.
00:36:22.667 --> 00:36:27.499
Their front yard was a cliff,
you know,
00:36:27.500 --> 00:36:30.624
and they moved them back
50 feet.
00:36:30.625 --> 00:36:32.582
- They did already?
00:36:32.583 --> 00:36:34.749
- Yeah, they already moved it.
00:36:34.750 --> 00:36:36.374
Davis\'s house and Ruben\'s.
00:36:36.375 --> 00:36:38.874
- Huh. They moved them
50 feet, no problem.
00:36:38.875 --> 00:36:42.749
- They didn\'t even move
no furniture inside, nothing.
00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:45.998
They jacked them up,
put grease on planks,
00:36:45.999 --> 00:36:48.958
and slide them. Real simple.
00:36:48.959 --> 00:36:53.458
They didn\'t even move the
pictures or nothing on the wall.
00:36:58.500 --> 00:37:00.290
- My name\'s Roger Thompsom.
00:37:00.291 --> 00:37:03.666
I have a company. I call myself
Level Best Engineering.
00:37:03.667 --> 00:37:06.207
I move buildings
and I level buildings.
00:37:06.208 --> 00:37:10.082
We\'re sitting on frozen ground,
mostly, in Western Alaska.
00:37:10.083 --> 00:37:13.374
As the ground melts,
the houses settle.
00:37:13.375 --> 00:37:15.666
And when a house becomes...
00:37:15.667 --> 00:37:18.124
the doors don\'t work,
too many cracks in the rock,
00:37:18.125 --> 00:37:20.541
it looks unsafe,
it\'s going to fall over,
00:37:20.542 --> 00:37:23.125
that\'s when I get a call.
00:37:43.291 --> 00:37:46.457
With this house here,
00:37:46.458 --> 00:37:48.998
I moved it back about 50 feet.
00:37:48.999 --> 00:37:51.249
The front door was right here.
00:37:51.250 --> 00:37:56.165
Had about 20 feet left to go
before it went in the ocean.
00:37:56.166 --> 00:37:57.707
So we moved it back far enough
00:37:57.708 --> 00:38:03.875
that, Lord willing, it\'ll be
here for at least another month.
00:38:07.959 --> 00:38:09.998
As the weather changes...
00:38:09.999 --> 00:38:10.999
well, I get more work,
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:13.457
so I can\'t say its threatening
my way of life.
00:38:13.458 --> 00:38:16.998
I get all the work I want,
because the houses are sinking,
00:38:16.999 --> 00:38:18.998
we have to move them.
00:38:18.999 --> 00:38:20.833
We don\'t get as many crab,
00:38:20.834 --> 00:38:22.165
we charge more money, you know.
00:38:22.166 --> 00:38:27.917
Heck, maybe in a few of years,
we\'ll start planting bananas.
00:38:46.708 --> 00:38:47.833
- To us,
00:38:47.834 --> 00:38:50.207
who have done little,
contributed nothing
00:38:50.208 --> 00:38:53.998
to this problem,
for us to be told
00:38:53.999 --> 00:38:55.833
to adapt,
00:38:55.834 --> 00:38:57.040
to be on our own,
00:38:57.041 --> 00:39:00.332
and try to cope
with these adverse effects,
00:39:00.333 --> 00:39:03.290
this is to us...
00:39:03.291 --> 00:39:05.416
it\'s like a denial
00:39:05.417 --> 00:39:08.083
of the rights to exist.
00:39:11.583 --> 00:39:13.999
(cars honking)
00:39:28.792 --> 00:39:30.624
- Hello.
- Hi.
00:39:30.625 --> 00:39:33.457
- Ambassador of Tuvalu.
00:39:33.458 --> 00:39:34.291
Yes. Yes.
00:39:34.292 --> 00:39:36.624
Are you going to call my name?
- Yes.
00:39:36.625 --> 00:39:37.749
My colleague is gonna be here
00:39:37.750 --> 00:39:40.958
and he will announce the names
in alphabetical order.
00:39:40.959 --> 00:39:42.874
- His Excellency,
00:39:42.875 --> 00:39:44.332
the Ambassador Extraordinary,
00:39:44.333 --> 00:39:47.457
and Plenipotentiary
Permanent Representative
00:39:47.458 --> 00:39:49.999
of Tuvalu.
00:39:50.875 --> 00:39:53.998
- For Tuvalu,
joining the United Nations
00:39:53.999 --> 00:39:55.998
was a big decision.
00:39:55.999 --> 00:39:57.998
I mean, we had to wait
00:39:57.999 --> 00:40:00.165
something like 23 years
00:40:00.166 --> 00:40:01.207
after independence.
00:40:01.208 --> 00:40:05.165
Because financially
the cost is very high,
00:40:05.166 --> 00:40:06.833
almost unbearable
00:40:06.834 --> 00:40:11.625
by a poor-resourced island
country like Tuvalu.
00:40:12.875 --> 00:40:15.499
- We have come together today
00:40:15.500 --> 00:40:17.791
to celebrate
the 20th anniversary
00:40:17.792 --> 00:40:20.998
of the 1982 United Nations
Convention,
00:40:20.999 --> 00:40:22.998
and the Law of the Sea.
00:40:22.999 --> 00:40:25.874
The oceans and the seas
00:40:25.875 --> 00:40:28.916
are vitally important
for the earth\'s eco-system.
00:40:28.917 --> 00:40:31.998
- The addressing
of climate change,
00:40:31.999 --> 00:40:34.791
or the adverse effects
of global warming,
00:40:34.792 --> 00:40:38.667
is the priority aim
of this mission.
00:40:39.166 --> 00:40:43.792
- Thank you very much for your
support on the ratification.
00:40:45.750 --> 00:40:47.333
Thank you.
00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:51.416
- If the convention
is to succeed
00:40:51.417 --> 00:40:52.375
in meeting these threats,
00:40:52.376 --> 00:40:55.457
cooperation and coordination
between states
00:40:55.458 --> 00:40:57.249
must be improved.
00:40:57.250 --> 00:40:58.998
- Equality is provided for
00:40:58.999 --> 00:41:01.707
in the charter
of the United Nations.
00:41:01.708 --> 00:41:04.541
Every member
has the right to speak,
00:41:04.542 --> 00:41:07.249
every member has the same vote.
00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:08.998
Of course we can,
00:41:08.999 --> 00:41:10.998
and we are,
trying to take advantage
00:41:10.999 --> 00:41:14.124
of the equality of treatment
in the United Nations.
00:41:14.125 --> 00:41:16.998
- I now give the floor
to the Primary Representative
00:41:16.999 --> 00:41:18.833
of Tuvalu.
You have the floor, sir.
00:41:18.834 --> 00:41:23.998
- Mr. Moderator,
a question that has come up
00:41:23.999 --> 00:41:25.082
is to what extent
00:41:25.083 --> 00:41:29.582
are the provisions
of the convention to take care
00:41:29.583 --> 00:41:33.582
of the rights of states,
00:41:33.583 --> 00:41:35.207
particularly those
00:41:35.208 --> 00:41:38.791
that are now predicted to be
00:41:38.792 --> 00:41:40.791
affected seriously,
00:41:40.792 --> 00:41:43.998
by effects of climate change
00:41:43.999 --> 00:41:45.791
and particularly sea-level rise.
00:41:45.792 --> 00:41:50.875
- Thank you very much. That\'s
an interesting question, sir.
00:41:55.041 --> 00:41:56.749
- Some days,
00:41:56.750 --> 00:41:59.082
I just come home
00:41:59.083 --> 00:42:00.707
and just ask myself,
00:42:00.708 --> 00:42:04.582
What am I doing here? People
don\'t seem to listen to me.
00:42:04.583 --> 00:42:09.082
I don\'t seem
to be getting anywhere.
00:42:09.083 --> 00:42:11.999
Nobody seems
to be paying attention
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.499
to what I\'m saying
00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:16.124
about the problems
00:42:16.125 --> 00:42:20.083
that Tuvalu is facing
because of global warming.
00:42:21.999 --> 00:42:25.749
On a good day,
it takes 30 minutes by car.
00:42:25.750 --> 00:42:27.833
- Uh-huh.
That\'s the same with me.
00:42:27.834 --> 00:42:32.500
- But if traffic is bad,
one hour, one-and-a-half hour.
00:42:33.999 --> 00:42:35.040
- Hi, Michael.
00:42:35.041 --> 00:42:37.499
It was so lovely.
- Yeah, it was great.
00:42:37.500 --> 00:42:39.332
- Really a lot of fun.
00:42:39.333 --> 00:42:41.207
It was very nice
for the families.
00:42:41.208 --> 00:42:44.834
- You have great kids.
- So do you.
00:42:49.208 --> 00:42:51.457
- Tell us a little bit
about Tuvalu,
00:42:51.458 --> 00:42:53.416
in terms of its
sea-level-rise vulnerability.
00:42:53.417 --> 00:42:57.998
How close to sea level
does most of the land lie?
00:42:57.999 --> 00:42:59.998
- Well, nowhere in Tuvalu
00:42:59.999 --> 00:43:02.666
is above two metres
00:43:02.667 --> 00:43:03.998
over sea level.
00:43:03.999 --> 00:43:08.541
Erosion of the coastal region
is a major problem.
00:43:08.542 --> 00:43:10.124
And that\'s why
we keep on asking.
00:43:10.125 --> 00:43:13.666
We need financial assistance,
technical assistance,
00:43:13.667 --> 00:43:15.499
from the developed countries.
00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:18.541
We don\'t have scientists
in Tuvalu!
00:43:18.542 --> 00:43:24.374
- I do think native peoples
and other cultures
00:43:24.375 --> 00:43:26.998
have a better understanding
of the relationship
00:43:26.999 --> 00:43:28.791
of humans and the natural world.
00:43:28.792 --> 00:43:32.332
And what the global warming
issue is, I think,
00:43:32.333 --> 00:43:33.041
for the developed world,
00:43:33.042 --> 00:43:38.582
it\'s actually the means by which
we can make those connections
00:43:38.583 --> 00:43:41.332
despite our incredibly complex,
00:43:41.333 --> 00:43:44.998
complicated, developed,
overdeveloped,
00:43:44.999 --> 00:43:47.416
highly technical world.
00:43:47.417 --> 00:43:52.082
I think that is the meaning
of the issue.
00:43:52.083 --> 00:43:54.998
- Can I ask one last questions?
00:43:54.999 --> 00:43:59.291
From the scientific data
working way back,
00:44:00.208 --> 00:44:06.833
is there any possibility
of a shift of the climate
00:44:06.834 --> 00:44:10.998
to stabilize,
to remain as it is?
00:44:10.999 --> 00:44:15.541
What I\'m actually aiming at,
00:44:15.542 --> 00:44:18.999
is there any possibility
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:23.499
that the scientists might
reverse their conclusions
00:44:23.500 --> 00:44:26.998
on the effects on small island
countries like Tuvalu?
00:44:26.999 --> 00:44:29.249
- It seems unlikely.
- It seems unlikely.
00:44:29.250 --> 00:44:32.999
- One only wishes
that we\'re wrong about this,
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.998
but I don\'t see
the slightest chance.
00:44:36.999 --> 00:44:41.998
There is no evidence
that I know of anyway,
00:44:41.999 --> 00:44:44.249
and I\'m sure you would say
the same thing,
00:44:44.250 --> 00:44:46.874
that as long as these gases
keep building up,
00:44:46.875 --> 00:44:48.998
that the climate
will do anything but,
00:44:48.999 --> 00:44:52.165
over the long-term average,
continue to warm.
00:44:52.166 --> 00:44:54.416
- If Kyoto is implemented
00:44:54.417 --> 00:44:59.499
and the emission rates slow
and are stabilized,
00:44:59.500 --> 00:45:04.541
what that will do is limit
the amount of warming.
00:45:04.542 --> 00:45:05.958
- Kyoto should really
00:45:05.959 --> 00:45:09.666
be viewed as a modest first
step, but an important one.
00:45:09.667 --> 00:45:12.958
- Thank you very much,
Professor.
00:45:12.959 --> 00:45:15.124
It was really a privilege
to talk to you.
00:45:15.125 --> 00:45:17.332
-Yes, and to you! And to you.
00:45:17.333 --> 00:45:20.250
Let me get a card for you.
00:45:37.999 --> 00:45:42.082
- There\'ve been a few things
I\'d rather had not happened,
00:45:42.083 --> 00:45:43.207
but certainly the day
00:45:43.208 --> 00:45:45.374
that the World Trade Center
was attacked
00:45:45.375 --> 00:45:47.998
was one of the worst moments
in my life.
00:45:47.999 --> 00:45:53.041
As it was for anybody in
New York or the United States.
00:46:00.083 --> 00:46:02.998
And it\'s ironic. Before
September 11th happened,
00:46:02.999 --> 00:46:07.457
I used to use a map of this area
to talk about global warming.
00:46:07.458 --> 00:46:09.582
Because this is one of the spots
00:46:09.583 --> 00:46:12.457
where, when storms happen
in the future,
00:46:12.458 --> 00:46:13.998
because of the higher sea level,
00:46:13.999 --> 00:46:16.791
there will be a substantial
amount of flooding.
00:46:16.792 --> 00:46:19.749
And I had a map
I would always show
00:46:19.750 --> 00:46:21.165
of the World Trade Center,
00:46:21.166 --> 00:46:22.998
with the new water line
00:46:22.999 --> 00:46:24.874
about in the middle
of the foundation,
00:46:24.875 --> 00:46:27.416
during a big storm.
And I think it\'s important...
00:46:27.417 --> 00:46:29.998
But I stopped showing
that picture,
00:46:29.999 --> 00:46:33.332
because I thought
it was inappropriate
00:46:33.333 --> 00:46:35.916
to juxtapose the two things.
00:46:35.917 --> 00:46:38.874
But as we talk about
the future of the city,
00:46:38.875 --> 00:46:41.416
I think,
and rebuilding this area,
00:46:41.417 --> 00:46:42.250
its important to remember
00:46:42.251 --> 00:46:44.833
other changes are going
to happen as well.
00:46:44.834 --> 00:46:46.874
And the flooding from global
warming that could happen,
00:46:46.875 --> 00:46:49.916
if we don\'t get emissions under
control, is one of those things.
00:46:49.917 --> 00:46:53.040
And the people who are
planning the reconstruction
00:46:53.041 --> 00:46:57.500
need to take that into account.
00:47:00.041 --> 00:47:03.416
In the short term,
human beings do a lot of things
00:47:03.417 --> 00:47:06.998
to themselves
and to their cities
00:47:06.999 --> 00:47:08.541
which are insane,
00:47:08.542 --> 00:47:10.582
and September 11th
was one of them.
00:47:10.583 --> 00:47:14.040
Over the long term,
we\'re also doing some things...
00:47:14.041 --> 00:47:16.290
Without realizing it...
00:47:16.291 --> 00:47:18.249
That are probably
equally dangerous
00:47:18.250 --> 00:47:20.998
and could have even
larger destructive effects,
00:47:20.999 --> 00:47:22.457
taken as a whole,
00:47:22.458 --> 00:47:25.165
and global warming
is certainly in the lead
00:47:25.166 --> 00:47:26.416
in terms of those problems.
00:47:26.417 --> 00:47:28.998
And that really needs
to be taken into account
00:47:28.999 --> 00:47:29.999
and we really...
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.998
just as we\'re acting to stem
future terrorism,
00:47:32.999 --> 00:47:36.249
we ought to act
against this other threat,
00:47:36.250 --> 00:47:39.541
that isn\'t intentional,
00:47:39.542 --> 00:47:41.499
but nevertheless,
now that we know about it,
00:47:41.500 --> 00:47:44.959
we have an obligation
to try to stop it.
00:48:11.291 --> 00:48:15.999
- From the back,
just lift this one up.
00:48:31.583 --> 00:48:33.207
- We\'ll get her.
00:48:33.208 --> 00:48:37.000
Sooner or later, we\'ll get her.
00:48:56.583 --> 00:49:00.040
(radio): or at least
20 miles an hour,
00:49:00.041 --> 00:49:01.998
with highs 25 to 30.
00:49:01.999 --> 00:49:03.998
For the Chukchi seacoast,
00:49:03.999 --> 00:49:07.624
including Point Hope,
Shishmaref, Kivalina
00:49:07.625 --> 00:49:08.958
and Red Dog Port,
00:49:08.959 --> 00:49:12.582
today, cloudy with scattered
snow showers and windy.
00:49:12.583 --> 00:49:14.874
South winds,
10 to 20 miles an hour,
00:49:14.875 --> 00:49:19.040
with gusts to 30 miles an hour
north of Cape Thompson
00:49:19.041 --> 00:49:20.457
diminishing.
00:49:20.458 --> 00:49:22.749
The high is 27 to 31.
00:49:22.750 --> 00:49:24.998
Sunrise this morning, 11:32,
00:49:24.999 --> 00:49:27.624
and we\'ll set this afternoon
at 3:44.
00:49:27.625 --> 00:49:32.583
That will give us 4 hours
and 12 minutes of daylight.
00:49:49.250 --> 00:49:51.833
- Hello once again,
to the national news.
00:49:51.834 --> 00:49:54.998
The women in the capital
commemorated their annual day
00:49:54.999 --> 00:49:56.541
last Saturday.
00:49:56.542 --> 00:49:58.040
Commemoration activities
00:49:58.041 --> 00:49:58.999
held for one day,
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:03.500
beginning with breakfast
at 8 o\'clock in the morning.
00:50:15.250 --> 00:50:20.959
(radio): Traffic is very busy on
the Brooklyn Bridge both ways...
00:50:56.583 --> 00:51:00.249
- Well, my dinner
is not coming around yet.
00:51:00.250 --> 00:51:02.999
Ha! Ha! Ha!
00:51:05.792 --> 00:51:08.999
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