Wherever Ciro goes, war always finds him. His children were recruited…
When the Waters Flow as One
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When the Waters Flow as One examines the resilience and agency of a group of women who endure the devastation of war while courageously working toward peace. In the face of numerous challenges, they confront armed actors, achieve groundbreaking legal victories against sexual violence, and challenge the cocaine economy. Through their solidarity, they foster mutual support and healing to navigate the traumas inflicted by conflict.
Akin to the smaller rivers that converge to form the mighty Amazon, these women are pioneering a new political framework rooted in humanity, solidarity, and love. While such ideals may appear sentimental in a predominantly patriarchal context, they become achievable in a society that empowers women to have a voice.
"One of those documentaries that treasures the B side of history." – El País (Spain)
"A story of conflict and resilience that focuses on the role of women in the midst of Colombia's armed conflict." – El Espectador
"In recognition of the tireless efforts of women who have lived through and faced the armed conflict with resilience, the Swedish Embassy, UN Women, and the Truth Commission presented a feature-length film with testimony from women from the country's regions." – Dinners
“A portrait in voices of the country in which different stories of struggle, overcoming and more are told about women.” – La W
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Main credits
Martínez Escallón, Margarita (film director)
Martínez Escallón, Margarita (film producer)
Aparicio, Linithd (film producer)
Other credits
Cinematography, Alfonso Parra, Mauricio Vidal; editing, Alejandro Zuluaga; music, Camilo Montilla, Julián Montilla.
Distributor subjects
Women; Human Rights; Activism; Education; Criminal Justice; South America; Latin American Studies; Fascism + RepressionKeywords
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60 years of war in Colombia
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Almost half a million deaths
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More than 8 million displaced people
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Thousands of kidnappings and disappearances
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Many of them women, who despite the pain have rebuilt
their lives and those of their families and communities
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We\'ve produced this film
with them and for them
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Like rivers, women grow
when they join together.
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There would be no Amazon River
without countless smaller rivers
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And there is no decent life
for women if we aren’t united.
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When Waters Flow as One:
Women and Peace in Colombia
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Amazon Piedmont
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It was very hard when we
started because of the conflict.
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The paramilitaries, the mafias, and
the FARC were all fighting over territory.
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Women couldn’t just go where they wanted.
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They had to ask permission,
because there was a code of conduct.
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The FARC were well-established in
Putumayo when the paramilitaries arrived.
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There was an armed group
and there was the army.
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The FARC moved freely in the territory and
there was coca, but they were one armed group.
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After the paramilitaries arrived in
2000, there were two armed groups.
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Montes de María - Caribbean Coast
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In ‘99 they began to appear at night.
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They would appear, kill, and be gone. Then
they would come back at night and kill again.
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This was a strategy they
used to terrorize people,
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to make them fear for their lives. We
saw a lot of things in our community.
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If they didn’t like a
person, they’d kill them.
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If you owed them money
and didn’t pay, they’d kill you.
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If they didn’t like the way you
looked at them, they’d kill you.
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Mountains of Central Colombia
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In my neighborhood, I saw a lot of young people
killed before they had a chance to grow up.
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I wept with many mothers over their sons
lying in pools of blood.
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We couldn’t spend the night in the country for
fear that armed groups would show up and rape us,
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kill us, or abduct us to join their ranks.
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Cumbal Indigenous
Reservation - Andean Paramo
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There were times in Cumbal
when you couldn’t leave the house,
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when you would hear
shots at all hours of the night.
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For a little girl like me, that was hard.
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You wait for your mom, your dad, or your
grandpa to tell you what to do and how to act.
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You scream, then you stay
silent … it’s just agonizing.
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Soacha - South of Bogotá
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It was really hard. Deaths every day;
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the paramilitaries, the curfews, the threats against
community leaders and anyone who worked for human rights.
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It was harsh, it became an aggressive
place where you just couldn’t stay on.
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Nasa Indigenous
Reservation - South Colombia
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These territories are
very sacred and spiritual.
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They’re beautiful to look at, but this is also a source
of wealth that powerful people want to get their hands on.
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Chocó - Pacific Coast
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The youth, the women, the organizations,
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the most visible of them
get entangled in the conflict.
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They become military targets.
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In Montes de María, paramilitary forces committed
over 60 massacres and displaced thousands of families
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My mom was a cheerful and very positive housewife.
She was tall, light-skinned, and very pretty…
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like her daughter! I have her features,
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these two birthmarks.
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Her nose, her mouth,
my face is a lot like hers.
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One night my dad said that we had to gather
our things and leave
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because they had taken my
mother and she wouldn’t be back.
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I was about 13.
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Let’s think for a moment about
the meaning of this gathering,
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How long has it been going on,
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26 years? This 26-year-long journey.
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You know that I’d still be
with her if she were alive.
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No one will forget her,
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no one.
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No one.
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Mountains of Central Colombia
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Sexual violence against women has been ignored
and the victims of these abuses are invisible.
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One of them fell in love with me,
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and he scared me more than ever
when he told me all that they did,
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how they befriended their victims and
invited them to dinner,
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but took them far away
and killed them brutally.
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It was very hard to hear those things.
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I lived with all that
fear. I couldn’t sleep.
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I was his so-called girlfriend,
but I had no choice in the matter.
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My life and the life of my family
were at risk. It was terrifying.
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It all began because they
appropriated the nicest properties
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and there was a nice little farm near us.
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I would pass by every evening
going to town to sleep there,
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and he would walk alongside me to chat.
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Then it was flirting and more,
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and I wasn’t free to break it off.
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My family asked me what
I had gotten into with him.
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“You’re putting us at risk,” they said
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But the safest thing was to play along as long as possible
so I wouldn’t get hurt and they wouldn’t get hurt.
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So that was very stressful
and also dangerous
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because it made me a
collaborator of this armed group
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without even meaning to.
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In a sense it was forced
on me, but more out of fear…
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until he took up with a prettier girl.
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The armed conflict penetrated
towns and cities, leaving no safe place
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I came to eastern Antioquia
displaced from Medellín,
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after being victimized in many ways,
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including the murder of my 4 brothers
and my pregnant younger sister.
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They killed her and her baby.
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Bullets were fired at the house
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and I decided to leave with them.
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I didn’t want them to grow up
there and suffer the same fate.
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It was a little hard to be in
the middle of all those groups.
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When people started to leave Medellín,
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my mother asked me “Are
you going to stay there?
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Don’t you see the danger? What
are you waiting for, to be threatened?”
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“Mom, they haven’t threatened
me and I don’t think they will.”
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The stores had closed by then,
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and there was no transportation,
so I shut myself into the house early.
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You could hear boots going by all
night, right outside and very loud,
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and the dogs barking.
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You just expected them to
knock on the door at any moment.
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The kids grew up having to be silent.
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And I was in many places, but I
ended up in Guarne, in the country.
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But there was war there too.
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The same thing was happening in the east.
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In some places, armed actors had absolute control over
women’s bodies. La Libertad, in Sucre was one such place.
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♫♫Rowing, rowing, we’ll get there.
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Rowing, rowing, we’ll achieve peace. ♫♫
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We’re going to do a skit.
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You play him and I play a 13-year-old girl,
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like I was at that time.
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I am the 13-year-old girl that he abducts.
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The boss said to look for
you… You have to come with me!
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No, we’ve done nothing wrong.
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And they go… They’re going!
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I had a problem with my
husband and he sent for us
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and when I got there he said to my husband, “you
stay with the kids and she’s coming with me.\"
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At 9 p.m. they took me out of town to Alto
de Julio. I was with him there for 9 days.
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After 9 days he brought me back.
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I did everything he wanted,
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things that are...
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painful to think about.
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Sometimes I cry from the pain,
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but that’s just the way it is.
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I was 13...
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when “the Bear” set his sights on me
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and sent a man for me.
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My mother was distraught;
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she stopped eating and sleeping,
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and she wouldn’t be seen,
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because she was so
heartsick and embarrassed
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about everything that was happening to me.
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He told my husband that he could get
me back if he paid for the gas to bring me.
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My husband blamed me for
everything that happened, and he left me.
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I was alone with my two daughters.
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During the violence, there
was very little you could do
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because we were under siege.
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You weren’t free because we were being
spied on by paramilitaries under the Bear.
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They were spying on me in particular;
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I was a special target of the Bear.
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From the time the Bear got here,
he singled me out and threatened me.
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When I had to care for
certain patients - urgent cases -
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I had do it in secret.
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When the Peace and Justice Law began, when people
began to resist, things changed here in Libertad,
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I began to help them.
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But before that, during the conflict, it was
almost impossible to do anything like that.
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Mocoa, Putumayo
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I thought that the school curriculum had nothing to
do with what was happening in this war in Putumayo.
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And I always told the
Secretary of Education,
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This can’t be, Mr. Secretary, the numbers say so
many students, but half of them are in the guerillas;
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the FARC are taking half
the students off with them.
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I’ve found FARC in the schools, teaching their own ideology
and regulations, and then taking the students off with them.
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Their mothers are
distraught…this can’t go on.
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The educational authorities
have to do something.
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“Don’t say anything to those people,
Señora, because the President...
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has expressly forbidden
anyone from talking to them.
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If you barge in and talk to
them, that’s a huge problem.”
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But I told the women,
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“No, look, I’ll stay here one more day
and we’ll see where the youngsters are.”
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So sometimes we rescued
them and other times we couldn’t.
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Thousands of boys and girls were brought into the ranks
of the guerrillas, and their schools fell into disuse
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Former FARC Combatants
Settlement - Eastern Plains
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I was 13, almost 14, but I was short and
skinny, and I looked like a 10-year-old.
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So most of them helped me, for
example to carry my share on our marches.
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I would fall behind and
they would come back for me.
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I was about 13 or 14 when I joined.
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Why did you join?
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Yes, I liked it.
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I’m an ex-combatant, but there are still
active guerrillas around here.
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It’s a conflict zone,
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and there are many
killings of ex-combatants.
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We always fear that they could come
at any time and kill one of us.
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I’ve been here for a little
over 2 years now with my son,
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fighting every day for a better life.
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Between 2002 and 2008, military forces killed 6,402
civilians and presented their bodies as enemy casualties.
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The armed forces are being
investigated for these crimes.
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They befriended the guys, all the
young guys they took off with them.
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They offered them work; they offered
to take them to see the sea, and so on.
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Julián was out of work at that time. He
didn’t like to be without work for too long,
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since we depended on him.
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One day he went to play
soccer with the recruiters,
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and one of them had a store where
he sold beer, liquor, all that stuff.
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So the young guys liked to go there.
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For those who liked drugs,
they gave them drugs.
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Gradually they won them over,
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and they offered them work in other regions
where they would earn a lot of money.
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Those who accepted went with
them. Others didn’t accept and didn’t go.
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My son was out of work, so he accepted.
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He was so proud that he came home and told me he would
earn a lot of money and could help us pay for the house.
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He left the house at 7 p.m. on March 2
to meet with the recruiter.
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He told me to save his food
because he wouldn’t be long,
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but we never saw him again.
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Never.
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Then 6 months later we found out that he was dead and buried
in a mass grave in Ocaña, far away in Norte de Santander.
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We found out because there were rumors.
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They brought back other guys and buried
them, but some of us still had no word.
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Then the coroner called four families
to a meeting on Sept. 23,
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and delivered a letter telling us
to come for our loved ones.
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On that day it all came out in the open.
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But we still didn’t know, I mean the
ones who went for their sons knew that
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(the soldiers) had killed them,
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because when they got there, they were told “Your son was
a guerrilla and he was killed in combat with the army.”
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But that was a lie because if my
son was at home with us at 7 p.m
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and the next day they
kill him so far from home,
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when would he have become a guerrilla?
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They told all the mothers that their sons
were guerrillas, that they were subversives,
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that they were in the ELN.
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They accused my son of being in the ELN and
that he was in Ocaña planting landmines.
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On Sept. 25, 2008,
Pres. Uribe told the press
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that our sons were not so innocent, they weren’t just
“picking coffee,” but had gone to Ocaña as criminals.
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That set us off and we began to act.
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We mothers of Soacha spoke up,
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began our demonstrations, everything.
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And that’s when they began to threaten us.
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That’s what we’ve been doing…
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telling the people of Colombia
what happened to our sons.
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This should not be forgotten,
it should not be repeated,
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more mothers shouldn’t have to suffer.
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But it will continue in Colombia.
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Perhaps by the Police, maybe by the Army.
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In Colombia ..
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They both violate human rights.
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This has been an accomplishment in Soacha,
the organization of the women’s movement
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and some women who have taken up
the defense of women’s human rights.
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None of the armed groups respected the territory
of Afro-Colombian or Indigenous peoples in Chocó.
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Waters of the Atrato,
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a rose blooms on your banks.
00:26:20.834 --> 00:26:33.959
I am as a canoe floating slowly down
stream, kissing your water, fresh and sweet.
00:26:35.667 --> 00:26:40.250
These groups make threats,
00:26:40.251 --> 00:26:43.876
and women are intimidated and constrained.
00:26:44.251 --> 00:26:50.209
The groups say who should aspire to
what, and they control the resources.
00:26:50.917 --> 00:26:54.792
Who are they? The
guerrillas, the paramilitaries,
00:26:54.917 --> 00:27:04.041
criminal gangs, they dangle
resources and they make threats.
00:27:04.042 --> 00:27:12.625
They threaten candidates, and most women
aren’t accustomed to any kind of public life,
00:27:12.626 --> 00:27:18.084
so they back off from it.
00:27:29.959 --> 00:27:36.083
This is having an effect
on the work that we’re doing
00:27:36.084 --> 00:27:38.291
because women’s participation is strategic,
00:27:38.292 --> 00:27:44.667
to change some of the
ways decisions are made.
00:27:45.292 --> 00:27:46.500
If we are on the inside,
00:27:46.501 --> 00:27:49.583
maybe we can help make some changes.
00:27:49.584 --> 00:27:52.709
But one flower doesn’t mean it’s spring.
00:27:52.751 --> 00:28:01.666
I mean if there are just 1 or 2 women in a
group of 10 or 15 officials,
00:28:01.667 --> 00:28:09.042
they still don’t have the power
to make the needed changes.
00:28:15.709 --> 00:28:29.126
But there are still opportunities to show
women a different way of working together
00:28:43.292 --> 00:28:54.541
The struggles for peace and women’s
equality became inextricably entwined.
00:28:54.542 --> 00:29:00.333
Organizing from 1984 to 1990,
00:29:00.334 --> 00:29:02.708
we reached a membership of 5,000 women,
00:29:02.709 --> 00:29:07.500
and the more pushback we got, the more
unshakeable we became.
00:29:07.501 --> 00:29:11.333
Like with kids, the more something is
forbidden, the more they want to do it.
00:29:11.334 --> 00:29:15.708
And we also knew why we were doing this,
00:29:15.709 --> 00:29:21.125
more than anything so
that women would wake up,
00:29:21.126 --> 00:29:25.125
would struggle, would make demands,
and not let themselves be mistreated.
00:29:25.126 --> 00:29:26.584
All these things.
00:29:26.917 --> 00:29:35.291
We women don’t give birth or raise
our children for war and violence...
00:29:35.292 --> 00:29:38.501
women’s bodies are not spoils of war.
00:29:41.876 --> 00:29:47.916
But persecution was even
worse from the 1990s on,
00:29:47.917 --> 00:29:55.459
because the armed groups did not look
kindly on an organization made up of women.
00:29:56.126 --> 00:30:00.083
With their patriarchal thinking,
00:30:00.084 --> 00:30:05.750
they saw women fighting for their rights when
they should be taking care of their men’s needs,
00:30:05.751 --> 00:30:15.251
because they have always aspired to control
women’s lives and bodies.
00:30:15.876 --> 00:30:25.916
And in 2003–2010 they practically did away
with the organization.
00:30:25.917 --> 00:30:31.501
From 100,000 women in 2003,
we had no more than 1,000 by 2013.
00:30:32.001 --> 00:30:34.833
We had to overcome our fears
00:30:34.834 --> 00:30:41.126
and find other strategies.
00:30:43.084 --> 00:30:51.083
We were so in their faces, saying “Why
did you do this or that. We want answers.”
00:30:51.084 --> 00:30:53.459
Now we had to take a different approach.
00:30:57.626 --> 00:31:09.251
The Nasa people provide an example of successful
resistance through their united and unceasing mobilization.
00:31:14.751 --> 00:31:19.708
They openly told us that indigenous
people in Colombia are a hindrance.
00:31:19.709 --> 00:31:27.291
And anyone who goes
against their economic interests
00:31:27.292 --> 00:31:32.291
will of course be a military target.
00:31:32.292 --> 00:31:37.459
They’ve tried all possible mechanisms,
some clear to see and others more subtle.
00:31:58.667 --> 00:32:03.958
I travel all around the territory
doing what needs to be done,
00:32:03.959 --> 00:32:06.583
accompanying women and communities,
00:32:06.584 --> 00:32:13.833
strengthening them, sometimes
just telling women that we have rights,
00:32:13.834 --> 00:32:17.375
because that is greatly needed.
00:32:17.376 --> 00:32:22.126
The more we venture into these territories
and experience these women’s processes,
00:32:22.709 --> 00:32:26.084
the more we realize the need
to accompany and strengthen them.
00:32:30.751 --> 00:32:36.000
And one thing that should
be said here, my sisters,
00:32:36.001 --> 00:32:41.500
is that we don’t organize as
women against our brothers,
00:32:41.501 --> 00:32:45.375
against men, and we make this very clear.
00:32:45.376 --> 00:32:48.541
We weave together with them,
00:32:48.542 --> 00:32:55.167
above all to reflect on what makes
our place in the movement so unequal.
00:32:55.334 --> 00:32:58.291
There are many very important processes.
00:32:58.292 --> 00:33:02.792
The indigenous movement is very strong,
00:33:03.501 --> 00:33:10.500
but women’s processes are still emerging.
00:33:10.501 --> 00:33:13.834
Sometimes we make progress and other times…
00:33:15.209 --> 00:33:16.667
not so much.
00:33:17.209 --> 00:33:24.958
But women also face all these organizational
and leadership responsibilities.
00:33:24.959 --> 00:33:28.541
Already facing so many obligations at home,
00:33:28.542 --> 00:33:32.417
they have to consider how much
time and resources they can devote to it.
00:33:33.167 --> 00:33:38.625
When a woman decides to step forward,
00:33:38.626 --> 00:33:42.541
to work as a woman, collectively,
she doesn’t back down.
00:33:42.542 --> 00:33:49.000
There are obstacles, ups and downs, and I’ve
often not wanted to go back to those spaces.
00:33:49.001 --> 00:33:53.125
I get tired, I say no more,
00:33:53.126 --> 00:34:00.667
but once you get that spirit, that
sensibility, you always push on.
00:34:13.292 --> 00:34:22.000
In Colombia, 185,422 people have been
reported disappeared in the last 35 years.
00:34:22.001 --> 00:34:27.875
Not a minute of silence
for our disappeared,
00:34:27.876 --> 00:34:31.834
no, a life of resistance.
00:34:35.501 --> 00:34:37.583
Like looking for a needle in a haystack,
00:34:37.584 --> 00:34:39.208
and we find her.
00:34:39.209 --> 00:34:41.459
All together we find her.
00:34:43.167 --> 00:34:47.291
Even if they give her
back in a terrible state,
00:34:47.292 --> 00:34:49.126
that’s my mother.
00:34:49.667 --> 00:34:52.126
Her soul is in heaven,
but these are her remains.
00:34:52.501 --> 00:34:55.541
No longer in a field,
and not at the coroner.
00:34:55.542 --> 00:35:03.459
She’ll be in a cemetery and in our hearts,
with her family as she always should have been.
00:35:04.959 --> 00:35:06.708
This is a miracle,
00:35:06.709 --> 00:35:11.667
but it also shows that
victims should be believed.
00:35:13.542 --> 00:35:21.376
I spent a lot of time knocking on doors
so they would believe me
00:35:23.167 --> 00:35:26.626
that the paramilitaries took my mother,
00:35:28.584 --> 00:35:31.166
that she was disappeared,
00:35:31.167 --> 00:35:35.417
and that she hadn’t abandoned us
as many wanted us to believe.
00:35:38.292 --> 00:35:42.501
If she were here, alive,
00:35:43.084 --> 00:35:45.416
she’d be looking for her children.
00:35:45.417 --> 00:35:47.751
She would never have given up.
00:35:50.542 --> 00:35:55.917
We want Mrs Gloria and Mayerlis to
be happy because we are celebrating life
00:35:56.542 --> 00:35:58.541
Alive they took them,
00:35:58.542 --> 00:36:00.625
alive we want them
00:36:00.626 --> 00:36:02.291
Alive they took them,
00:36:02.292 --> 00:36:04.001
Alive they took them,
00:36:04.876 --> 00:36:07.876
Cry no more, Maye…
00:36:08.584 --> 00:36:11.417
Maybe I had to go through all of that
00:36:12.334 --> 00:36:14.458
to get what we have today,
00:36:14.459 --> 00:36:18.792
all this love and affection
and breaking the silence.
00:36:33.876 --> 00:36:38.916
What I’ve gone through is a day in the
park compared to what they experienced.
00:36:38.917 --> 00:36:44.791
But I’m going to transform this into positive things
so that women don’t have to go through what I did,
00:36:44.792 --> 00:36:49.833
to ease the pain of other
women, that they have a voice,
00:36:49.834 --> 00:36:51.333
that they don’t take our children,
00:36:51.334 --> 00:36:54.708
that they aren’t abducted, that they aren’t
poisoned with drugs.
00:36:54.709 --> 00:37:03.750
If we didn’t raise our voices
and take these actions,
00:37:03.751 --> 00:37:07.292
Montes de María would be lost
to us, it would be in their hands.
00:37:12.001 --> 00:37:18.500
We can’t deny that the situation is difficult,
but we live by the power of our words.
00:37:18.501 --> 00:37:26.959
We declare ourselves in peaceful resistance
to those violent actions.
00:37:37.917 --> 00:37:40.791
I don’t feel safe
00:37:40.792 --> 00:37:49.291
because violent men want to kill us women
who have decided to defend our rights.
00:37:49.292 --> 00:37:51.500
They come for us right in our homes.
00:37:51.501 --> 00:37:54.125
We lost Maritza right in
her house in Santa Marta.
00:37:54.126 --> 00:37:56.916
They grabbed Deyanira in her house,
00:37:56.917 --> 00:38:01.077
and they killed another sister in front of her children,
right in the doorway of her house in Tierralta.
00:38:09.501 --> 00:38:22.084
Women’s activism against the armed conflict, and
in favor of peace has exposed them to new risks.
00:38:24.292 --> 00:38:29.041
It’s never easy to get past
the usual role of woman,
00:38:29.042 --> 00:38:35.000
family, and missed opportunities,
00:38:35.001 --> 00:38:42.126
but you have to empower yourself,
decide what you want to do.
00:38:42.917 --> 00:38:50.875
The radio show was a space to speak
out on the many problems in the territory.
00:38:50.876 --> 00:38:58.876
And when you provide this service to the
community, other women find spaces for leadership.
00:39:00.751 --> 00:39:07.459
Alright, we’re here with you
at 3:23 p.m., expecting to find…
00:39:07.751 --> 00:39:11.750
We’re at a time of women’s awakening.
00:39:11.751 --> 00:39:20.958
Maybe we’re tired of weaving, just crafts
and housework, just taking care of the kids.
00:39:20.959 --> 00:39:26.251
The radio station is a place
to speak out and be heard.
00:39:26.501 --> 00:39:30.042
The process of women’s
empowerment, for women to be seen
00:39:30.292 --> 00:39:33.166
You have to be strong to be a leader,
00:39:33.167 --> 00:39:36.126
prepared for anything.
00:39:37.251 --> 00:39:40.458
Because in Colombia, in the territories,
00:39:40.459 --> 00:39:48.834
you may be digging your own grave.
00:39:49.292 --> 00:39:53.584
That’s what it is to be a
leader today in the territories.
00:39:54.376 --> 00:40:02.584
Coca is a major element in the economy of Putumayo, where
the unemployment rate is among the highest in Colombia.
00:40:02.667 --> 00:40:08.334
One out of every three people in the department
has been a victim of the armed conflict.
00:40:13.251 --> 00:40:17.541
I learned about coca from my
uncles, who were growers from early on.
00:40:17.542 --> 00:40:22.375
Also from the 1996 coca growers’ movement
00:40:22.376 --> 00:40:25.126
when the conflict here was at its worst.
00:40:25.917 --> 00:40:30.417
So I’ve always known of coca and
I’ve always recognized the problems.
00:40:35.126 --> 00:40:42.333
This sugarcane project is
by the sweat of their brows.
00:40:42.334 --> 00:40:47.750
These families just decided
to stop growing coca,
00:40:47.751 --> 00:40:50.709
sidestep the coca economy,
00:40:51.626 --> 00:40:55.667
and grow a crop that, as Veronica
says, doesn’t cause problems.
00:40:59.626 --> 00:41:11.000
I don’t grow coca now, but still I consider
myself a part of the coca sector, because…
00:41:11.001 --> 00:41:16.916
on one hand I support the struggles
and the movement of the cocaleros …
00:41:16.917 --> 00:41:22.584
and I’m part of the cocalero movement
that demands an economic transformation.
00:41:23.251 --> 00:41:28.042
My husband was also a cocalero in his day,
00:41:28.126 --> 00:41:33.542
and when he became a
leader, we had to set an example.
00:41:33.792 --> 00:41:37.666
Now, even though I don’t
have a single coca bush,
00:41:37.667 --> 00:41:43.501
I consider myself a cocalera. We’re
part of this movement for transformation.
00:41:45.834 --> 00:41:54.792
Promoting peace and crop substitution is
considered a threat in these cocalero departments
00:41:54.876 --> 00:42:05.458
Advocating the substitution of other crops for
coca goes against the interests of armed groups
00:42:05.459 --> 00:42:09.834
and political sectors that fight over the
profits of the drug trafficking economy.
00:42:12.167 --> 00:42:19.251
They don’t want us to say anything about social
organizations, nothing about crop substitution,
00:42:20.084 --> 00:42:22.209
they just want people to grow coca.
00:42:32.084 --> 00:42:37.751
These were coca fields.
Where you see cassava now,
00:42:37.876 --> 00:42:40.292
a very nice cassava crop
that I planted before leaving,
00:42:40.626 --> 00:42:44.834
that was all coca,
00:42:45.459 --> 00:42:56.251
and there was more
coca deeper in the forest,
00:42:58.001 --> 00:43:03.167
We were promoting crop substitution and we
weren’t interested in the coca economy anymore.
00:43:04.334 --> 00:43:07.501
Now we’re building something new,
00:43:07.751 --> 00:43:11.751
a new farm economy,
and that’s not at all easy.
00:43:12.876 --> 00:43:16.916
Our connection to the land is total.
00:43:16.917 --> 00:43:18.709
It’ is everything to us.
00:43:21.334 --> 00:43:24.625
They’ve been killing us one by one.
00:43:24.626 --> 00:43:28.501
We lose friends and sisters in the
struggle, and they’re just statistics.
00:43:29.084 --> 00:43:32.042
I ask myself what would
happen if they killed me.
00:43:33.334 --> 00:43:36.959
It’d be a news item like so many others.
00:43:39.251 --> 00:43:46.126
But when they kill a leader, they crush
the hopes and dreams of a community.
00:44:02.334 --> 00:44:10.792
Marco Tulio Perez Guzmán, the Bear, had been detained
for other things – not for sexual violence, of course -
00:44:12.584 --> 00:44:15.376
and his case was being heard by the
tribunal of Justice and Peace,
00:44:15.501 --> 00:44:20.876
If there’s anything that the Bear must
regret, it’s that he didn’t kill all of us,
00:44:21.209 --> 00:44:30.584
because he never
imagined that we’d speak out,
00:44:31.251 --> 00:44:36.126
She said that as the
nurse there in Libertad,
00:44:36.417 --> 00:44:43.709
She was aware of many cases of sexual violence
perpetrated by a paramilitary known as the Bear.
00:44:44.209 --> 00:44:47.959
He controlled the zone,
and she wanted to report him.
00:44:48.209 --> 00:44:55.042
When we decided to formally accuse
him - along with Women for Peace,
00:44:55.251 --> 00:45:00.209
the prosecutor, and Justice and
Peace Tribunal - we got a lot of threats.
00:45:00.834 --> 00:45:06.458
Men called the women claiming
that they were prosecutors.
00:45:06.459 --> 00:45:11.250
They offered them groceries, and they
called other leaders to warn them off.
00:45:11.251 --> 00:45:14.667
The Bear would call them and say “Hey, this
is your little teddy bear calling you.”
00:45:15.001 --> 00:45:21.042
That meant some difficult
things and some very nice things,
00:45:23.334 --> 00:45:29.959
because we made a lot of
trips to meet with each other.
00:45:30.084 --> 00:45:33.251
To begin the process with Women for Peace,
00:45:34.084 --> 00:45:39.751
we had to leave here in secret, one
going this way and another going that way.
00:45:39.959 --> 00:45:41.958
All the cases were heard here in Bogotá.
00:45:41.959 --> 00:45:44.750
None of them were under their names,
00:45:44.751 --> 00:45:46.000
only under my name.
00:45:46.001 --> 00:45:51.709
We had a code name for everybody…
00:45:51.917 --> 00:45:59.626
I’d tell Adriana, for example, let’s
meet at the January festival in Sincelejo
00:45:59.792 --> 00:46:04.291
in order to put the enemy off our trail and
think that we were at the bullfights there.
00:46:04.292 --> 00:46:09.209
A few days later, they broke into
my house and destroyed everything...
00:46:09.334 --> 00:46:11.334
They threatened me.
00:46:11.501 --> 00:46:17.334
They went to my house that I have here,
looking to kill me, but I wasn’t there.
00:46:22.334 --> 00:46:24.001
They wanted to kill me.
00:46:24.126 --> 00:46:30.001
When I saw the Bear in
a hearing for the first time;
00:46:30.876 --> 00:46:34.834
we always saw him on
a screen at the hearings,
00:46:35.292 --> 00:46:38.792
but one time he was face to face
00:46:39.959 --> 00:46:42.541
with me and Nergina,
00:46:42.542 --> 00:46:46.709
and it was very, very hard.
00:46:47.251 --> 00:46:52.876
And that’s when this new Martha
00:46:54.626 --> 00:46:56.501
showed how strong she is,
00:46:59.626 --> 00:47:02.417
when she didn’t cry.
00:47:04.334 --> 00:47:10.292
One of the questions we asked him was “Did you
have sexual relations with such and such a woman?”
00:47:10.542 --> 00:47:11.667
“No.”
00:47:11.917 --> 00:47:13.583
“Did you have sex …”
00:47:13.584 --> 00:47:15.584
“No.” He always denied it.
00:47:15.834 --> 00:47:19.751
I wanted to grab him by the throat
00:47:20.209 --> 00:47:25.542
because he was telling so many lies, that he had never seen
us before, when he knew what he’d done to each one of us.
00:47:26.542 --> 00:47:29.834
Not just us but all that
he did here in Libertad.
00:47:37.084 --> 00:47:41.626
The prosecutor approached
him and said, “You have a visit.”
00:47:42.126 --> 00:47:45.917
“No, really?” he said,
00:47:47.501 --> 00:47:53.751
“Yes, you have visitors. There are about 20
people here from Libertad (About 20 of us went.)
00:47:53.959 --> 00:47:55.792
And he fell ill.
00:47:55.876 --> 00:48:01.584
He got diarrhea, he fainted, his blood pressure
fell, and the hearing had to be suspended.
00:48:03.334 --> 00:48:06.126
When you’re at war,
that means that you kill.
00:48:06.751 --> 00:48:10.542
So yes, I was in the war,
I committed these crimes.
00:48:10.709 --> 00:48:13.459
I had other people’s lives in my hands
00:48:13.626 --> 00:48:15.001
and that gave me prestige
00:48:15.626 --> 00:48:17.417
There’s no prestige in being a rapist.
00:48:18.084 --> 00:48:24.251
Rapists are treated very, very
harshly, both in society and in prisons.
00:48:24.501 --> 00:48:31.792
Any kind of criminality leads to rejection, but society
doesn’t reject the murderer the same as the rapist.
00:48:32.167 --> 00:48:39.416
Somehow there are these social codes that
say “Murderer? Well, I was in the war,”
00:48:39.417 --> 00:48:41.792
and it’s kind of accepted.
00:48:42.209 --> 00:48:46.334
And this is what happened:
he really didn’t accept it.
00:48:47.459 --> 00:48:51.709
My older daughter asks me, “Why, Neidis?
00:48:52.667 --> 00:48:55.626
Why is this coming out in the news?”
00:48:55.834 --> 00:49:00.417
And I tell her, “The
thing is, we’re in a trial.
00:49:01.459 --> 00:49:08.001
We decided to speak out so these things that happened
to us don’t keep happening to your generation.”
00:49:09.376 --> 00:49:14.834
Justice and Peace decided to exclude him
from their jurisdiction
00:49:15.001 --> 00:49:20.126
due to his crimes of sexual violence and
all the others that he had not admitted.
00:49:21.292 --> 00:49:23.167
Seeing him in that situation
00:49:23.459 --> 00:49:26.541
was feeling up to a
certain point like reparation.
00:49:26.542 --> 00:49:30.001
It was like “Aha!” he’s getting a
taste of what he made us feel.”
00:49:31.292 --> 00:49:35.001
Marco Tulio, what are you
going to say to the court?
00:49:38.209 --> 00:49:40.417
Hey, Marco Tulio!
00:49:41.542 --> 00:49:44.501
The \"Bear\" sentenced to 24 years in prison
for the rape of 10 women.
00:49:48.667 --> 00:49:52.834
The most important thing was
his acknowledgement of the truth.
00:49:53.209 --> 00:50:03.959
The most satisfying victory for the women was to hear
the Bear admit in court that he’d committed those crimes.
00:50:04.334 --> 00:50:05.667
So here we are,
00:50:06.042 --> 00:50:07.459
firm in our convictions.
00:50:07.876 --> 00:50:10.292
Not as strong as we could be
00:50:11.209 --> 00:50:15.876
after all that we’ve gone through,
but we’re here in the struggle.
00:50:20.709 --> 00:50:23.917
Mountains of Central Colombia
00:50:46.417 --> 00:50:49.376
Many things were impossible during the war,
00:50:49.584 --> 00:50:53.084
and the hopes of many women were dashed.
00:50:53.917 --> 00:51:00.001
But God is great, and he
saved the lives of some of them.
00:51:03.042 --> 00:51:08.250
I embrace the women who were also victims
00:51:08.251 --> 00:51:09.916
because I too was a victim.
00:51:09.917 --> 00:51:12.876
Now I’ve found a way to
heal, or to process the pain.
00:51:13.876 --> 00:51:19.292
I can feel the pain of others because I felt the same
pain. If you also felt it, you understand them better.
00:51:21.751 --> 00:51:23.542
The basic things
00:51:24.542 --> 00:51:30.750
you can convey to other
people to help heal their wounds,
00:51:30.751 --> 00:51:40.708
open up shared spaces for rebuilding confidence
and recovering positive perspectives on life.
00:51:40.709 --> 00:51:44.791
Victims don’t beg for their rights anymore.
00:51:44.792 --> 00:51:53.958
They’re empowered to recover their self-esteem and
the identities they lost when they were displaced.
00:51:53.959 --> 00:51:59.876
They become citizens rather than victims.
00:52:00.667 --> 00:52:07.541
They respect officials but
demand respect in return,
00:52:07.542 --> 00:52:13.417
and they don’t let
themselves be revictimized.
00:52:14.084 --> 00:52:19.709
They told of the killings, the threats,
00:52:19.792 --> 00:52:23.958
the guerrilla sieges and kidnappings,
00:52:23.959 --> 00:52:29.209
consumed with anguish
after all these experiences.
00:52:29.376 --> 00:52:33.001
When I relate my experiences, it
builds up the confidence of other women.
00:52:33.084 --> 00:52:36.875
And I say women, because
we women participated the most.
00:52:36.876 --> 00:52:47.251
Few men participated because they had been killed or
displaced in the war, or because they had to work.
00:52:47.917 --> 00:52:50.583
So women led the process.
00:52:50.584 --> 00:52:54.376
And due to the war, many women were left
in charge of families
00:52:54.917 --> 00:52:58.917
after husbands and
sons were torn from them.
00:52:59.292 --> 00:53:03.834
When a territory is imagined
from the women’s point of view,
00:53:03.959 --> 00:53:06.917
we see our demands as
explicitly women’s demands.
00:53:07.042 --> 00:53:12.167
It’s important to understand that the perspective
of our organization is a view of the territory,
00:53:12.251 --> 00:53:15.209
not just of its women.
00:53:15.292 --> 00:53:18.251
This concept of feminism isn’t a matter of
competing with men
00:53:18.626 --> 00:53:22.209
but of discovering and valuing
the contributions of women,
00:53:22.417 --> 00:53:33.375
which leads us as men to recognize what
Leonardo Boff calls the denial of the feminine…
00:53:33.376 --> 00:53:40.084
…which is what we have renounced, or
what the patriarchy has had us renounce,
00:53:40.167 --> 00:53:46.376
and what we must recover: affection for the
other, the love for life, the defense of life.
00:53:51.959 --> 00:53:58.625
There was a guerrilla
incursion in Nariño (Antioquia),
00:53:58.626 --> 00:54:05.376
and the most emblematic
image of that violent event
00:54:05.792 --> 00:54:12.751
is of a woman guerrilla known
by her pseudonym Karina.
00:54:19.751 --> 00:54:22.708
Once you become a FARC
guerrilla, there’s no turning back.
00:54:22.709 --> 00:54:26.292
The only way out is to desert
00:54:28.876 --> 00:54:34.834
and the deserter immediately becomes a
military target of the FARC.
00:54:34.959 --> 00:54:36.750
Why didn’t you want to demobilize?
00:54:36.751 --> 00:54:39.709
Out of fear, terror.
00:54:42.001 --> 00:54:48.834
I had the terrifying image
of a monster, a beast.
00:54:49.126 --> 00:54:58.792
Then when the armed
conflict abated somewhat,
00:55:00.751 --> 00:55:06.250
we began to work with
families of the disappeared.
00:55:06.251 --> 00:55:10.001
We asked them to write letters
00:55:10.084 --> 00:55:15.583
to those they considered
guilty of disappearances,
00:55:15.584 --> 00:55:21.209
and we would make sure
that they received them.
00:55:22.834 --> 00:55:27.459
Many families wrote letters to Karina,
00:55:27.792 --> 00:55:32.416
asking “Where’s my son,
what happened to my son,
00:55:32.417 --> 00:55:34.334
why did you kill him?”
00:55:36.417 --> 00:55:39.458
Señora Karina, My name
is María Ligia Arango,
00:55:39.459 --> 00:55:42.417
mother of Fabio Nelson Franco Arango,
00:55:42.584 --> 00:55:45.541
16 years old at that time...
00:55:45.542 --> 00:55:49.708
In 2002 men under your
orders took him from Bujío area.
00:55:49.709 --> 00:55:55.751
This letter is to find out where my son
Fenedy Alonso Arango Giraldo is...
00:56:01.376 --> 00:56:05.833
Señora Karina, I’d like to ask
you what happened to my son.
00:56:05.834 --> 00:56:07.791
He was taken from a
house in the area of Dragal.
00:56:07.792 --> 00:56:10.959
I’d like to know if he’s dead or alive...
00:56:11.626 --> 00:56:14.000
My name is Isaura Arias de Arango,
00:56:14.001 --> 00:56:16.250
mother of Alba Lucia Arias,
00:56:16.251 --> 00:56:20.667
13 years old, disappeared between
the area of El Café and the town of...
00:56:20.917 --> 00:56:23.084
When she began to look at the letters,
00:56:23.334 --> 00:56:26.626
it suddenly struck me to ask her
00:56:26.667 --> 00:56:29.042
why she joined the guerrillas.
00:56:30.834 --> 00:56:39.041
She described the poverty of her family
00:56:39.042 --> 00:56:43.501
and her thinking that the only way
to get food was to join up with them.
00:56:43.709 --> 00:56:47.541
She wasn’t moved by idealism
about revolutionary change,
00:56:47.542 --> 00:56:49.501
because she didn’t have any.
00:56:50.126 --> 00:56:57.167
What she wanted was food to eat and food
to bring her family.
00:56:58.542 --> 00:57:06.416
As she spoke, I was so
moved that I couldn’t hold back
00:57:06.417 --> 00:57:09.917
the urge to step forward and hug her.
00:57:10.084 --> 00:57:17.001
She went on, telling all
she went through in the war,
00:57:17.042 --> 00:57:21.792
and finally, that she wanted three things:
00:57:23.042 --> 00:57:26.292
“First, to recognize all the harm I did,
00:57:26.334 --> 00:57:29.292
and I want to acknowledge
it to the victims,
00:57:30.209 --> 00:57:33.708
and I’d like them to
forgive me for what I did,
00:57:33.709 --> 00:57:37.751
and I want somehow to make amends for it.
00:57:37.876 --> 00:57:40.834
I ask my family for forgiveness,
00:57:41.584 --> 00:57:45.917
but I also ask forgiveness
from all the victims,
00:57:47.042 --> 00:57:51.166
not just my own victims
when I was a guerrilla,
00:57:51.167 --> 00:57:54.167
but all the victims of the FARC.
00:57:54.292 --> 00:57:58.876
This shows that these
meetings, when they’re prepared,
00:57:59.084 --> 00:58:01.751
serve both parties.
00:58:01.959 --> 00:58:08.000
For those who were victimized,
to ask questions of their victimizers,
00:58:08.001 --> 00:58:13.376
to listen to their responses, and to see that they’re
capable of hearing them and acknowledging the harm they did.
00:58:20.709 --> 00:58:23.667
May our enemies see
this wall of resistance,
00:58:23.917 --> 00:58:31.126
this wall of truth, and
commit such crimes no more.
00:58:36.334 --> 00:58:40.708
We didn’t expect this wall
to gain worldwide fame,
00:58:40.709 --> 00:58:44.041
we didn’t know how much it would mean,
00:58:44.042 --> 00:58:48.958
above all to the aggrieved who
leave flowers, candles, even letters.
00:58:48.959 --> 00:59:00.125
It’s painful when a person dies, but
their loved ones who were disappeared
00:59:00.126 --> 00:59:07.542
People come to the wall to connect
with their loved ones who were victimized.
00:59:16.459 --> 00:59:19.417
Putumayo: land of peace,
designed and built by women - 2018
00:59:36.334 --> 00:59:39.292
Justice! Justice! Justice!
00:59:40.292 --> 00:59:45.001
If civil society doesn’t get organized,
this will just go on.
00:59:48.334 --> 00:59:54.876
By organizing, we expose it
and others take an interest.
00:59:56.417 --> 01:00:00.959
Organized, we can show the country and
the world what’s happening in this region.
01:00:02.251 --> 01:00:05.792
We’ve gotten women out, saved lives,
01:00:06.501 --> 01:00:09.708
and educated,
01:00:09.709 --> 01:00:14.459
so it’s very positive and
we need to keep it going.
01:00:15.667 --> 01:00:20.917
As long as women leaders are supported,
because that’s the problem we have here.
01:00:26.126 --> 01:00:31.084
By 2012, there was talk of negotiations.
01:00:31.251 --> 01:00:34.209
It was a surprise, and we began to think…
01:00:34.584 --> 01:00:40.751
Together we can give women
a voice in the peace proposals.
01:00:46.376 --> 01:00:51.126
Women demand truth, justice and reparation.
01:00:58.667 --> 01:01:05.876
After 50 years of war, the Colombian government and FARC
guerrillas signed a peace agreement in Havana, Cuba.
01:01:06.376 --> 01:01:13.583
UN Resolution 1325 encourages women participation in
peace talks and in the implementation of peace agreements.
01:01:13.584 --> 01:01:19.834
It\'s the first peace agreement in the world
to expressly include a gender perspective.
01:01:26.376 --> 01:01:31.416
When negotiations in
Havana were on the horizon,
01:01:31.417 --> 01:01:36.916
we already had years of annual
reports to follow-up on Resolution 1325,
01:01:36.917 --> 01:01:41.626
demanding that Colombia move to negotiated
political solutions.
01:01:41.709 --> 01:01:50.417
The 1325 resolution gives
visibility to women in conflicts
01:01:50.751 --> 01:01:56.791
Resolution 1325 itself was constructed
by an international group,
01:01:56.792 --> 01:02:03.667
a critical mass of women proclaiming the
important role of women in peace construction.
01:02:07.459 --> 01:02:18.833
I coordinated the group of advisors who wrote the
proposals that the government brought to the table,
01:02:18.834 --> 01:02:22.167
under the leadership of
Sergio Jaramillo, of course
01:02:27.709 --> 01:02:31.541
Elena was on the government commission,
01:02:31.542 --> 01:02:38.167
but the idea of a consistent gender perspective
throughout the agreement was not yet visible.
01:02:40.751 --> 01:02:49.625
While women’s rights and responsibilities
were equal to men’s in FARC documents,
01:02:49.626 --> 01:02:55.626
the organization was an outgrowth
of patriarchal Colombian society.
01:02:55.917 --> 01:03:00.166
So, it’s hard.
01:03:00.167 --> 01:03:05.875
The fact that there were more women but they
were less visible shows that progress was needed.
01:03:05.876 --> 01:03:12.291
The peace agreement had to reflect the importance
of women’s work and the gender perspective.
01:03:12.292 --> 01:03:17.458
There was enough information
when we began the talks,
01:03:17.459 --> 01:03:28.375
including international literature stressing the importance
of incorporating the protection of women’s rights in peace
01:03:28.376 --> 01:03:38.417
agreements and a robust international framework
along the lines of women, peace, and security,
01:03:38.834 --> 01:03:45.916
but it seemed that none of
that was in the negotiations.
01:03:45.917 --> 01:03:49.916
So the first thing we said to
the Colombian government
01:03:49.917 --> 01:03:52.500
was you have an obligation
to comply with Resolution 1325
01:03:52.501 --> 01:03:56.584
and enlarge your delegation, introduce women’s
participation, because there wasn’t any.
01:04:10.417 --> 01:04:16.541
When we demanded the inclusion of women with
plenipotentiary powers in the delegations
01:04:16.542 --> 01:04:21.541
two women were added to
the government delegation,
01:04:21.542 --> 01:04:26.584
and women from the FARC at another level
of participation began to be more visible.
01:04:29.376 --> 01:04:32.458
And as we became more visible,
01:04:32.459 --> 01:04:35.083
the Government had to do the same,
01:04:35.084 --> 01:04:39.834
because there was a strong women’s movement asking
what was happening with the women in Havana,
01:04:40.501 --> 01:04:44.292
because the Government didn’t have a delegation,
the FARC had several women, all this...
01:04:53.334 --> 01:04:59.292
I remember some messages saying
that I’d been designated for Havana,
01:05:01.292 --> 01:05:04.416
and at first I thought it was a mistake,
01:05:04.417 --> 01:05:06.750
that I wouldn’t be sent there.
01:05:06.751 --> 01:05:10.958
But 3 days later the leadership
said you’re going with the delegation
01:05:10.959 --> 01:05:15.834
and you’re one of the plenipotentiaries.
Then I was even more afraid.
01:05:20.709 --> 01:05:25.834
I think it was a very good decision,
01:05:29.042 --> 01:05:32.708
which I attribute to the
women’s organizations
01:05:32.709 --> 01:05:40.834
that requested or rather demanded not only that
there be women plenipotentiaries at the table,
01:05:41.917 --> 01:05:48.291
but that the agreement address the
particular needs and interests of women
01:05:48.292 --> 01:05:53.958
on the current agenda and on all the points
agreed to since 2012.
01:05:53.959 --> 01:05:57.250
When they called the first of us,
01:05:57.251 --> 01:06:01.917
we took up the three
points already agreed to
01:06:02.667 --> 01:06:05.626
and began to insert the relevant additions.
01:06:05.667 --> 01:06:10.458
We didn’t try to advance the whole
agenda or try to pack in too much,
01:06:10.459 --> 01:06:12.666
because we wouldn’t succeed.
01:06:12.667 --> 01:06:16.750
We knew it would be very difficult
to advance all these points,
01:06:16.751 --> 01:06:24.417
So we inserted our carefully prepared
language here, here, and there.
01:06:28.251 --> 01:06:32.916
This knowledge that you
have rights is empowering,
01:06:32.917 --> 01:06:39.083
so the movement of women victims
was empowered throughout the country.
01:06:39.084 --> 01:06:51.709
Our alliance between feminists and women victims
was very beautiful and enormously powerful.
01:06:52.042 --> 01:06:58.875
This is the press conference of experts
supporting the work of the subcommission on gender
01:06:58.876 --> 01:07:04.333
in conversations between the
Colombian government and the FARC.
01:07:04.334 --> 01:07:06.708
The six Colombian experts accompanying us…
01:07:06.709 --> 01:07:11.250
The participation of women’s organizations
in these conversations
01:07:11.251 --> 01:07:17.209
is historic in the context of Colombian and
international peace processes up to this time.
01:07:17.334 --> 01:07:24.417
We would like to see women be a decisive
political actor in this process.
01:07:28.042 --> 01:07:34.208
To assure not only reparation for the harm
caused in the armed conflict,
01:07:34.209 --> 01:07:40.708
but transformations of the structures
that underlie such violence against women.
01:07:40.709 --> 01:07:45.334
The addition of a subcommission on gender
01:07:45.667 --> 01:07:50.916
was one of the most important
aspects of the process,
01:07:50.917 --> 01:08:03.251
unlike all those that came before.
If this perspective is applied seriously,
01:08:05.042 --> 01:08:20.459
all the agreements should reflect
gender equality rather than discrimination.
01:08:21.251 --> 01:08:24.958
The subcommission on gender
was established with two goals.
01:08:24.959 --> 01:08:31.000
One, to revise the three agreed-upon
texts to include the gender perspective,
01:08:31.001 --> 01:08:35.667
and then to guarantee that the three outstanding
points include the gender perspective,
01:08:36.459 --> 01:08:41.876
not waiting for them to be finished but
incorporating it as they are negotiated.
01:08:52.917 --> 01:08:56.125
Juanita was on the technical subcommission,
01:08:56.126 --> 01:09:00.459
and she began to come to meetings of the
subcommission on gender.
01:09:01.334 --> 01:09:03.709
At first, this generated a certain…
01:09:04.001 --> 01:09:07.459
concern and resistance on our part.
01:09:07.667 --> 01:09:13.209
For some reason they thought I was from
Intelligence, that I was going to be spying on them.
01:09:13.501 --> 01:09:15.708
But I’ve never been with Intelligence
01:09:15.709 --> 01:09:18.667
I’ve never even taken the
most basic course in that area.
01:09:19.376 --> 01:09:24.584
But I think they were more comfortable with my presence
after about a month, and there were no more problems.
01:09:24.626 --> 01:09:27.375
We discussed the issues in
the subcommission on gender,
01:09:27.376 --> 01:09:34.292
we considered proposals, and she compiled them
and presented them at the negotiating table.
01:09:35.542 --> 01:09:39.958
At first she had to convince the military representatives
that those proposals should be incorporated,
01:09:39.959 --> 01:09:44.625
but it was very hard for them to reject
women’s rights proposals coming from the FARC,
01:09:44.626 --> 01:09:50.459
especially when they were introduced by a woman officer.
But we always worked together with Juanita on that.
01:10:01.542 --> 01:10:09.583
It was hard, but finding common ground with
the women of the government was very important.
01:10:09.584 --> 01:10:13.750
It was a successful alliance
and a victory for women,
01:10:13.751 --> 01:10:22.501
and a peace agreement ending an armed conflict incorporated
a gender perspective for the first time in history.
01:10:23.084 --> 01:10:29.583
We’ll never know, but I think the peace agreement wouldn’t
have been the same without the subcommission on gender,
01:10:29.584 --> 01:10:34.126
and it would’ve taken much longer without
the participation of women.
01:10:37.126 --> 01:10:42.958
I told chief negotiator De la Calle that
I came to help him give the agreement,
01:10:42.959 --> 01:10:47.334
let’s say, something different.
01:10:48.126 --> 01:10:55.041
If you ask me where I
think that contribution was,
01:10:55.042 --> 01:11:03.084
it was there in the subcommission where
the end of the war was being negotiated.
01:11:04.501 --> 01:11:11.625
I think that introducing the gender
perspective in the resolution of a conflict
01:11:11.626 --> 01:11:15.625
was among the most important
aspects of the Peace Agreement.
01:11:15.626 --> 01:11:20.042
It was something that had
never been done before.
01:11:33.459 --> 01:11:41.083
We succeeded in including women’s rights,
01:11:41.084 --> 01:11:47.083
the gender perspective, and a differentiated
approach in all five points of the agreement.
01:11:47.084 --> 01:11:54.833
We established parity for women’s representation in
the Truth, Justice, and Reparation System overall,
01:11:54.834 --> 01:11:59.583
and in each of its three component
bodies: the Truth Commission,
01:11:59.584 --> 01:12:06.458
the Special Jurisdiction for Peace, and the Unit
on the Search for People Deemed to be Missing.
01:12:06.459 --> 01:12:12.376
Each of these bodies also includes an entity to promote
the inclusion of women’s rights and a gender perspective.
01:12:12.959 --> 01:12:22.750
The Ruta Pacífica and the movement decided to
nominate me for this role on the Truth Commission,
01:12:22.751 --> 01:12:30.250
and I think that was very important because
I’m the first feminist on a commission.
01:12:30.251 --> 01:12:35.750
No other Truth Commission
has included feminists,
01:12:35.751 --> 01:12:39.584
So I think this is important
achievement for the movement.
01:12:40.084 --> 01:12:53.500
Those who committed crimes of sexual violence or rape
were declared ineligible for any amnesty or pardon.
01:12:53.501 --> 01:12:56.458
An important accomplishment,
01:12:56.459 --> 01:13:06.626
because it recognized that sexual violence is an
element of armed conflict, that it is a weapon of war.
01:13:08.667 --> 01:13:15.125
The peace negotiations were very positive
for the LGBT movement
01:13:15.126 --> 01:13:17.416
I think we won a lot.
01:13:17.417 --> 01:13:23.041
For one thing, we had an opportunity to wrest
this matter of LGBT war victims out of the closet.
01:13:23.042 --> 01:13:28.709
Something came out in Peru in the Truth Commission,
but no other peace agreement in the world…
01:13:29.251 --> 01:13:32.000
this is a new aspect
and an opportunity for us
01:13:32.001 --> 01:13:36.167
to put this matter on the public agenda in
Colombia and the world.
01:13:36.417 --> 01:13:39.042
LGBT people are
negatively affected in wars.
01:13:39.667 --> 01:13:45.709
We conveyed a rejection of war,
01:13:46.917 --> 01:13:54.917
that wherever violent acts have their origin,
including in war, such acts degrade human beings.
01:13:55.751 --> 01:13:59.125
And as women we suffer most
from the kinds of daily violence
01:13:59.126 --> 01:14:02.792
that aren’t visible, that aren’t
punished, and that are highly normalized.
01:14:03.084 --> 01:14:08.833
I think this was part of the idea
that violent acts against women
01:14:08.834 --> 01:14:16.709
in war are also invisible and stem from the
same patriarchal model.
01:14:17.834 --> 01:14:23.166
To explain everything
that women experienced,
01:14:23.167 --> 01:14:27.708
which is a task of the commission,
includes their pain, their victimization,
01:14:27.709 --> 01:14:35.292
but also to tell the country of their
strength and resistance.
01:14:36.626 --> 01:14:40.001
Women carried the weight
of this war on their backs.
01:15:43.709 --> 01:15:48.708
As we were going to become civilians,
01:15:48.709 --> 01:15:52.625
it was a good stage, a new life,
01:15:52.626 --> 01:15:56.584
our reincorporation as civilians.
01:15:57.542 --> 01:16:03.708
It was also sad in a way, because you’re
used to the life there,
01:16:03.709 --> 01:16:12.417
but on the other hand the process was a
good one for us, you know what I mean?
01:16:14.292 --> 01:16:26.625
Right here we have 86 children and in the larger area
there are 116 children of reincorporated guerrillas,
01:16:26.626 --> 01:16:31.417
almost 2 per family.
01:16:31.626 --> 01:16:41.417
I don’t regret what I’ve done because we’re in this
process now and backing out isn’t an option for me.
01:16:43.417 --> 01:16:50.667
I want to keep working; I have a family,
I have two children.
01:16:54.459 --> 01:17:01.417
And you say to yourself, get it in
your head that you really are a leader,
01:17:03.459 --> 01:17:12.083
To defend life. In this war there’ve been many
deaths, much pain, and much victimization.
01:17:12.084 --> 01:17:18.251
All that women have done
to protect and safeguard life,
01:17:18.542 --> 01:17:28.292
reconstruct the social fabric, rise above circumstances,
build community, demand their rights, it’s inexplicable.
01:17:29.459 --> 01:17:32.833
Where did they get the strength
01:17:32.834 --> 01:17:41.584
–not only to breathe, but to keep breathing
and reaffirm life after all they went through?
01:17:41.834 --> 01:17:46.334
There are people who say that the Colombian
Peace agreement is a model for humanity
01:17:46.667 --> 01:17:52.625
We are very proud to
have been a part of it.
01:17:52.626 --> 01:17:58.791
Also ask the young feminists of today,
how are you going to advance?
01:17:58.792 --> 01:18:05.625
I like the old image where I stand
on the shoulders of the suffragists,
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young feminists stand on my shoulders and keep
moving forward, and others stand on their shoulders.
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Because it’s like there’s
a wall in front of us.
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If I don’t stand on the shoulders of others,
I don’t see anything beyond the wall,
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but if we stand on each other’s shoulders, we
see not only the wall but a much wider horizon.
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These tapestries are woven collectively,
not without great effort.
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Born of this womb, from this heart
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we need to feel that it’s the
womb of mother earth herself.
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To inspire other grieving women,
those who think they can’t go on,
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that they’ve seen the worst possible calamity. They
may be devastated, but they must not give up hope.
01:18:47.251 --> 01:18:52.708
They may have been knocked down,
but they must stand back up,
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refuse to let the enemy break their spirit.
01:18:56.709 --> 01:19:01.626
They can be robbed of today’s
dreams, but never their capacity to dream.
01:19:02.001 --> 01:19:06.084
We’re connected. When one
of us acts, she inspires others.
01:19:07.084 --> 01:19:12.126
If we join forces with others in the struggle,
it turns out that there are even more of us.
01:19:12.751 --> 01:19:18.416
The fact is we’re not alone
and when we unite, we grow.
01:19:18.417 --> 01:19:22.583
As Juliana said yesterday, we grow together
and together we can defend ourselves.
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We need to come together to
confront such a formidable task.
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Because we are still few.
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Since the body is our territory and
the territory is also a body,
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when women’s bodies and nature’s body join
together, we grow in size and power like the rivers.
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Revealing now what was hidden
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wounds that bleed
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striding with fear at her feet
01:20:03.209 --> 01:20:06.709
she does not stray
01:20:08.167 --> 01:20:11.875
a life lived without believing
01:20:11.876 --> 01:20:15.751
a life of stolen dreams
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today she discovers in her woman’s hands
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her unceasing strength
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she will not yield while her heart is stout
01:20:31.167 --> 01:20:35.166
though the past shattered
all she yearned for
01:20:35.167 --> 01:20:40.000
if her light has not been extinguished
01:20:40.001 --> 01:20:44.376
she can believe again, be born anew
01:20:45.417 --> 01:20:48.709
determined now, she does not yield
01:20:49.542 --> 01:20:53.084
while her brightly glowing torch illumines
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the road forward
01:20:59.042 --> 01:21:01.584
her struggle has begun
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The peace agreement was not an endpoint,
but a starting point.
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The stories and voices presented here
are just a small sample
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of the immense diversity
of women in Colombia
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who are speaking out and working courageously
for truth, justice, and reparation.
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In a historic ruling on October 18, 2021, the Inter-American
Court of Human Rights condemned the Colombian State
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for the kidnapping, torture, and rape of
journalist Jineth Bedoya.
01:21:41.167 --> 01:21:46.125
This ruling sets a precedent regarding the required
compliance of member States with their obligation to
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protect women’s rights in general and the rights of
women journalists in the context of armed conflict.
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In recent years, there has been significant
progress in the consolidation of peace in Colombia.
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There\'s still a long way to go, but Colombian women
provide hope and the ability to mobilize communities.
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This film is dedicated to the women who suffer through war
while dreaming of peace, and those who dare to build it.
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Tribute to Ángela Salazar Commissioner
of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission
Distributor: Pragda Films
Length: 85 minutes
Date: 2023
Genre: Expository
Language: Spanish
Grade: High School, College, Adult
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Closed Captioning: Available
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