Academy Award-nominated film tells devastating stories from the era of…
America's War on Abortion
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In this BAFTA award-winning film, two-time Emmy and Peabody award-winning filmmaker Deeyah Khan examines the erosion of reproductive rights in the United States, foregrounding the stories of those often forgotten in this ‘war’ who nonetheless find themselves on its frontline: impoverished women and women of color. Khan films at abortion clinics which are under siege from fundamentalist Christian protesters, and meets the doctors who face an ever-present threat of violence, even murder, from anti-abortion fanatics. She meets a man convicted of bombing clinics, and the women who face one of the most difficult decisions of their lives in choosing to have an abortion. In his time in office, Donald Trump wooed evangelical Christian voters by enacting anti-abortion policies; and with a political battle raging in the Supreme Court, the right of American women to choose is under threat. Deeyah Khan goes on the frontline to find the people who will be most affected by the abortion wars.
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Main credits
Khan, Deeyah (film director)
Prindle, Darin (film producer)
Smith, Andrew (film producer)
Other credits
Music, Danny Farrant, Nick Kingsley.
Distributor subjects
Abortion Rights; Women's Movement; Activism; Feminism; Health; Law; Reproductice RightsKeywords
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You have no concept of God.
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Shame on you,
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shame on you.
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(Deeyah) If you want an abortion
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in the state of Alabama,
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this is what you'll have to face.
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You killed your baby,
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you shameful wretch.
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(Protestor) Hey, don't be a whore.
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Don't be a slut.
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Don't be a ho.
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Wicked nasty,
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disgusting whore.
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You sick freak.
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Wicked
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People should be comforted through this
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and not damned and hated.
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All the judgment that society puts on it.
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It's hard not to feel...
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guilty in a way about it.
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I am asking Congress to pass legislation,
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finally banning the late term abortion of babies.
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(Deeyah) Donald Trump is the most
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anti-abortion president in years.
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Do you believe in punishment for abortion?
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Yes or no?
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As a principle.
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There has to be some form of punishment.
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(Deeyah) Now, a vicious political fight
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for control of the Supreme Court
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could see abortion being banned entirely
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for millions of women across America.
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And that's what we're going to do.
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We're gonna fill the seat.
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That's a good idea.
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(crowd cheers)
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(Deeyah) Performing abortions in America
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can get you murdered.
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I'm coming face to face
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with people convicted of anti-abortion terrorism.
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I knew that I would be coming against
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these abortion chambers
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with destructive force.
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I knew that I would destroy them.
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(Deeyah) And the anti-abortion campaigners
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who celebrate these attacks.
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(bomb explodes)
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My God.
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When they bomb an abortion clinic
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or burn an abortion clinic,
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I think the army of God has done a marvelous job.
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(Deeyah) I'm meeting the medical staff
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who risk their lives to provide abortions.
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This building's been bombed.
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It's been flooded.
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(Deeyah) And the women
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who face the harshest choices of their lives.
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It's living Dee, it's living.
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It's kicking.
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I'm sorry.
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(Deeyah) The fight over abortion
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has become a fight for the future of America.
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Ma'am this doctor here is an abortionist.
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Don't you deserve better?
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It's a war on children.
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It's a war and a human being in the womb.
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I know that with this upcoming election,
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that that's what we have at stake.
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It's gonna hurt women.
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This is, I mean, this is the battle,
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the soul of the country, right?
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(Deeyah) Who's Charlotte?
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Charlotte was my daughter.
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I was pregnant with her
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beginning in 2012.
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Unfortunately, we didn't get to give birth to her,
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to the point where I got to see her or hold her.
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But she's my daughter.
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(Deeyah) When Trinity was 18 weeks pregnant,
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a routine scan found her fetus
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had three lethal medical conditions.
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She was told the best option
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was to have an abortion,
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to avoid the baby suffering.
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Incompatible with life.
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That phrase.
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That phrase will haunt you
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and haunts me, you know,
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in the depths of my nightmares.
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You're just taken right back into that room,
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right back into that moment,
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where someone tells you
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that your baby's gonna die.
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They put the needle through your belly,
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into your uterus,
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and into the baby's heart.
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That was the moment that you know,
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that she's going.
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It sounds crazy,
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and it sounds silly,
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but I just,
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I wanted to see it beat for the last time.
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And I wanted to be there and have her know
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that I was
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watching her as we said goodbye.
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It just seemed so surreal.
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I'm just so lost.
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I just don't know.
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Do I get to,
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do I get to feel like I lost a baby?
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Because I felt like in some way
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I didn't get to,
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I didn't deserve,
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I didn't deserve to be sad.
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You know, through a lot of therapy
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and a lot of time,
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I realize that
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I feel that way because
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of what society's made me feel.
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I know that other people
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are forced to come out of a clinic
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and have people yell at them
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and call them murderers
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and tell them that they've murdered their baby
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and call them horrible names
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and wave signs in front of them
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and yell at them.
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And I just can't even imagine what I would've done.
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I can't imagine what my husband
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would've done at that moment.
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If we would've been wheeled out
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and somebody would've been standing there in front of us,
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picketing us.
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(Deeyah) This is a country
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where you can be vilified and stigmatized
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for having an abortion.
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For decades, the Supreme Court
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has protected the right of a woman to choose
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with the landmark decision Roe versus Wade.
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But the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
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has led to a battle for control
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of the Supreme Court.
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That's what we're going do.
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We're gonna fill the seat.
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That's a good idea.
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(Crowd) Fill the seat.
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Fill the seat.
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(Deeyah) These legal struggles
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could have far-reaching consequences
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for American women.
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It may even mean abortion is one day banned
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across much of America.
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I'm heading for a front line
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in the war on abortion.
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Only three clinics regularly provide abortions
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in the whole of Alabama.
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Patients who arrive at Alabama Women's Center in Huntsville
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have to be shielded by these people,
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known as clinic defenders,
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because every day
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just yards from the clinic entrance
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are anti-abortion protestors.
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(cow bell clangs)
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Nasty, whore.
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Shame on you,
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you wicked devil baby murderer.
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You're worse than Jeffrey Dahmer,
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you sick freak.
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♪ Oh when the saints go marching in. ♪
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(Deeyah) The clinic defenders
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are all volunteers
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who work here because they believe
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in the right of women to choose.
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A clinic defender is someone
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who's gonna stand out here
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and put ourselves in between the patients
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and these protestors.
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Yeah, I'm talking to you, Dad.
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Shame on you.
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I know that they have to be extremely brave
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to even pull into this parking lot some days.
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You deserve to be stoned.
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There's 15 plus protestors out there screaming.
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Wicked.
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They love it.
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Disgusting.
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They're making a big decision already by coming here
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and they come into this parking lot
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and this is what they're met with.
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This is what equal access to healthcare
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looks like in Alabama.
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Disgusting.
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Walking around naked,
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showing off your thighs and your legs, nasty whore.
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I wish they would understand that
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not everything is black and white, right and wrong.
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I pray that every woman that opens up her nasty,
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disgusting, diseased vagina
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to have a baby ripped out of their womb,
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I pray that they bleed to death.
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This is it.
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This is the life of the clinic.
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This is an everyday occurrence.
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Welcome to Alabama.
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(Deeyah) Having an abortion
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can be stressful and difficult.
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And the staff say the protestors
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make things much worse.
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Someone coming into something like this
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for the first time,
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it can be scary.
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And they come in a lot of time,
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flustered, angry, crying.
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(Deeyah) This is Morgan.
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She's decided to have an abortion
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because she has no financial means
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to bring up a child.
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How are you feeling?
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Nervous.
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I knew immediately
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what I was going to do,
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but it doesn't make it any easier.
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Just thinking about it and
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all the judgment that
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society puts on it and everything.
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So it's gonna weigh on my,
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on my life for a really long time.
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Just thinking about it.
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(Deeyah) The vast majority of patients who come here
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are less than 10 weeks pregnant
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and they're given a pill
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which induces a miscarriage.
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Before we give you the first dose of medicine.
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We always like to be sure
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that you're absolutely certain this is what you wanna do.
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This one is the one that you're gonna swallow.
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(Deeyah) But Morgan has only just found out
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she's 15 weeks pregnant.
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So she'll be undergoing the procedure
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used for later term patients.
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She's been given medicine to relax her
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and dilate her cervix.
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But because of the stress and nerves,
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it's not taking effect.
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You're in good hands.
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Suck your breath.
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Slow your breaths.
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Listen to me, slow deep breath.
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(Doctor knocks)
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(Deeyah) Dr. Yashica Robinson is the supervising doctor.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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And a lot of pressure, okay?
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Okay.
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The first thing that you're gonna feel is just cold, so.
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Tell me what's going on.
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Are you feeling pain right now?
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No.
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What's going on?
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I'm just scared.
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You're scared?
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Didn't I tell you
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I was gonna take really good care of you?
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I know. (indistinct)
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Okay, well scoot down one more time.
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(Deeyah) Once the medicine starts to work,
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it only takes around five minutes
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for Dr. Robinson to remove
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the contents of the uterus.
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You have only about 60 seconds
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and we're finished, okay?
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We have about 10 seconds and you're finished.
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How are you doing?
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I told you it was going to be over
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before you knew it.
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You're done.
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(Deeyah) How are you doing?
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It was better than I expected.
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I think that,
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the worst part was just waiting and anticipating.
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I know when I came in to talk to you the first time
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you said you was really nervous
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and you were worried.
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And then when I came back in,
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you was really worried,
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but you did very well.
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But if you have any concerns after you leave,
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I want you to make sure you call us, okay?
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All right.
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(Deeyah) Dr. Robinson is medical director of the clinic,
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in charge of everything that goes on here
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and her partner Dalton owns it.
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This is one of the few abortion clinics
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in the whole of America,
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which is owned and run by people of color.
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I am a proud abortion provider.
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I'm unapologetic about the care
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that I provide for my patients.
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I can understand where these women are coming from
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because I'm interacting with them on a daily basis.
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And I understand the circumstances
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that go into them making these decisions.
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(Deeyah) For some women who come here,
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this is one of the worst days of their lives.
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Sarana has recently had her 20 week scan.
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She's been told her fetus
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has a series of major medical disorders
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and it's very probable it won't survive.
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Oh, wow.
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Um, I don't know,
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just disbelief, shock.
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Just hurt.
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Just don't believe it,
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never been through anything like this.
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Just, I guess it's just about the worst nightmare
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for any mother.
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(Deeyah) Do you have other children?
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Yes, Ma'am.
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I have an older son.
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(Deeyah) Wow.
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He's, he'll be 13 and he's
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looking so forward
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to being a big brother.
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(Deeyah) He was looking forward to being a big brother.
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She's named her unborn son Andre.
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To save Andre any suffering,
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she decides to have the abortion.
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A counselor is on hand to comfort her.
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The procedure itself takes 20 minutes
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and the staff help her to her car.
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Dr. Robinson's clinic mostly serves
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the rural poor and African American
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communities of Alabama.
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What we are going through right now,
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our current economic situation.
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People are already struggling
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just to put food on the tables.
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You see people waiting in long lines
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just to get food from food banks.
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You know,
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we are almost like social workers
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or social service providers for these patients
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because their needs are so great.
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(Receptionist) You're gonna have to
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listen for your name, Honey.
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(Deeyah) One day, Alex comes into the clinic.
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She's in a same sex relationship
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and already has a young daughter.
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She tells me she's decided to have an abortion
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because she was attacked and raped
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just outside her apartment
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by two men she didn't know.
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Because of the lack of available clinics,
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Alex has been forced to drive 10 hours to get here.
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Although she can barely afford it,
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she's had to stay in a nearby motel.
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It is the hardest decision, I think,
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that I've ever had to make in my life.
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Had I just had sex with two guys,
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I would've been like, okay, yeah.
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Of course.
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But I don't know those people.
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I don't know what type of diseases.
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I don't know anything of them.
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And I know that I had been through so much mentally
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that I would always look at that baby
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and say that this baby was not made in love.
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I think back to the pressure that was applied,
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they were applying to my anus and my vagina.
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That's what I think back to.
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And I know,
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I know I am forgiven.
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It was the most hurtful thing.
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So I, this is my uterus.
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I'm my own woman.
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And this is what's best for me.
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It's the right thing to do.
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Yeah.
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(Deeyah) Have you ever
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considered the possibility of keeping this fetus?
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Every second of since I've been here,
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I'm not thinking,
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but it's in the back of my mind.
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It's living, dang it, it's living.
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It's kicking.
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I don't think I wanna talk anymore.
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My daughter loves me.
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Jesus loves me.
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That's enough for me.
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And that's enough for any of the women
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that are going to watch this.
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(Protesters pray)
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(Deeyah) The protests that dog Dr. Robinson
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outside the abortion clinic
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follow her wherever she does her work.
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10 minutes away,
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she also runs this maternity and baby center.
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She's an obstetrician and gynecologist,
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providing the full range of medical care
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for mother and child.
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Just put your car seat here.
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Yes.
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(Deeyah) Including bringing babies into the world.
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Yes, I was the first one to hold you.
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(Deeyah) But even here,
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she's targeted by protestors.
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Pregnant patients who arrive at her center
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for a scan, or even to give birth,
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are harassed.
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Ma'am this doctor here is an abortionist.
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Don't you deserve better?
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Yashica Robinson murders babies in the womb,
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an average of 50 a week, Ma'am.
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Dead or alive.
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Yashica Robinson does not care.
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Dead or alive.
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Don't you deserve better than Dr. Death?
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Think about it.
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Dr. Death here.
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Think about it.
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(Deeyah) This is Carol Henderson,
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the wife of the local reverend
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who organizes all the protests here.
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There's never a reason for a woman
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to have to have abortion.
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If they obey God's commandments and not fornicate,
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they wouldn't get pregnant, would they?
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Hey, Javesy.
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Hello.
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(Deeyah) Staff inside the clinic
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have to be continually vigilant.
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When the protestors show up.
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And sometimes if there's nobody out there
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they'll block the driveway.
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So we'll have our OB patients coming in.
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Sometimes they're pretty distraught
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by the time they get in the door.
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They're crying because they say that they're
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the driveway was blocked
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and they couldn't come down the driveway or that,
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you know, somebody touched them
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or got really close to 'em
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and it kind of shakes them up.
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The stress that they are putting on
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these pregnant patients,
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who are trying to just have a healthy pregnancy,
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is, it's just mind blowing.
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(Deeyah) Do you not feel it's disrespectful
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of the women that are going in here
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who just want to have their child or who are coming for a-
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That's not disrespectful.
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Telling them the truth and informing them.
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Don't we all wanna be informed before we do something?
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The protestors tell me
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they once persuaded a woman not to have an abortion.
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And this woman is now a fellow campaigner.
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She is so thankful.
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(Deeyah) Can I meet her?
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She is so thankful.
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Her fourth child was a little girl.
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Can I, can I meet her?
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She had three boys
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and now she has a little girl.
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She is thankful.
No, she doesn't want
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to meet you.
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(Deeyah) Why not?
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Why would she want to?
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(Deeyah) Well, she can tell her story.
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She doesn't wanna tell you her story.
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Thank you.
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(Deeyah) Why not?
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(cow bell clangs)
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God's gonna cut out your disgusting tongue,
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like fat back.
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It's gonna fry.
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All that so carelessly kill your children
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are gonna face God.
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Shame on you.
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You wicked devil, baby murderer.
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God cares about that baby.
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(Deeyah) Back at the abortion clinic,
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Daniel and Mary are a newly married couple
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and are regular protestors.
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These are Satanists and witches
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that delight in the shedding of innocent blood.
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It's part of their religion.
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You seem to be obsessed with them.
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Especially not old nasty whores like you.
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So I wouldn't worry about,
Disgusting.
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I wouldn't worry about that.
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(Deeyah) A regular target of their abuse
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is clinic defender, Josephine.
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Why do you do this?
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Why put up with this?
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Why put yourself through this?
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I cry
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for the women that come here
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that don't deserve to be treated that way.
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Somebody needs to be here for them
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and to let them know,
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it's okay, you,
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you have the right to make this decision.
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And you know, we all need support sometime.
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(Deeyah) I persuade Daniel and Mary
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to sit down with me to talk.
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What do you think you're gonna accomplish
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by calling somebody a whore?
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Well, if they already know they're a whore,
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then they're gonna say,
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well, you know what?
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He told me the truth.
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We're trying to save the baby.
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These parents should be ashamed.
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They should be ashamed of what they're going to do.
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By God's law,
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they should be stoned to death
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at the edge
They should be killed.
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of the city.
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Whoever sheds blood,
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God's gonna kill you.
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You see all these parents going in
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and you see these Satanists and witches
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working in the parking lot,
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and it's very depressing.
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Time is short.
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When I first started going,
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I was a lot more like crying.
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Like there's never anything positive
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about going out there.
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It's miserable.
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It's a sacrifice.
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It's just obeying God.
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So it's not something pleasant at all.
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The Bible says it's peace that surpasses understanding.
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And I believe that.
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It's unexplainable.
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(Deeyah) What do you think, Mary?
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What does peace feel like?
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Do you feel like you've found it?
540
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Yes, I,
541
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when I-
542
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In general, yes.
543
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Well, I mean,
544
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I didn't really wanna talk to you at all.
545
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I submit to him
546
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because the Bible tells wives
547
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to submit to their husbands and obey their husbands.
548
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So I obey him.
549
00:22:13.539 --> 00:22:15.631 line:15%
I kind of pulled her down here actually, but
550
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(Deeyah) Did you really?
551
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Yeah.
552
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Rejects from wherever-
553
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(Deeyah) Mary tells me
554
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she had a very unhappy life
555
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before she found God.
556
00:22:23.210 --> 00:22:26.400
There was abuse in my family, pretty severe.
557
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So the day I was born again,
558
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when I asked Jesus to come into my heart,
559
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I was just flooded with love, you know?
560
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And it was like,
561
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I had never known what that felt like.
562
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The Father's love for me.
563
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I have to do it because I,
564
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I know that God wants me to do it.
565
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(Deeyah) Isn't this better
566
00:22:46.010 --> 00:22:48.210 line:15%
than shouting at each other on the sidewalk?
567
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We'll see on judgment day, which works.
568
00:22:56.500 --> 00:22:58.970
I mean, this is how we typically deal with people.
569
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We don't typically shout at people.
570
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True.
571
00:23:02.243 --> 00:23:04.130
That's just a crisis situation
572
00:23:04.130 --> 00:23:05.090
where little children are
573
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about to be tortured to death.
574
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(Deeyah) One day,
575
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a group of evangelical street preachers.
576
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arrives from out of state to join the usual gang.
577
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You are an abomination,
578
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not your sin, you.
579
00:23:26.871 --> 00:23:29.500
You that's where you kill your baby.
580
00:23:29.500 --> 00:23:31.809
Hey, don't be a whore.
581
00:23:31.809 --> 00:23:33.581
Don't be a slut.
582
00:23:33.581 --> 00:23:34.790
Don't be a ho.
583
00:23:34.790 --> 00:23:37.190
You murdered your baby.
584
00:23:37.190 --> 00:23:39.060
Do it the way God says,
585
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and you don't have to murder your baby.
586
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(Deeyah) They shout racially charged abuse
587
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at the black patients.
588
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Black lives don't really matter in this building.
589
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The worst place for a black person,
590
00:23:51.590 --> 00:23:53.997
is in the vagina of Shaniqua.
591
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(Deeyah) They also try to provoke the clinic defenders.
592
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(Protestor) We have nothing nice to say to you.
593
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You are worse than the ones
594
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that are molesting the children.
595
00:24:01.973 --> 00:24:03.341
You!
596
00:24:03.341 --> 00:24:06.151
That's what God thinks of you.
597
00:24:06.151 --> 00:24:07.581
That's what God thinks of you.
598
00:24:07.581 --> 00:24:08.590
That's what God thinks of you.
599
00:24:10.311 --> 00:24:12.842
You're worse than the child molesters.
600
00:24:12.842 --> 00:24:14.299
You're worse than the ones that
601
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stick pillows in the babies.
602
00:24:16.442 --> 00:24:19.442
You're worse than ones that beat your babies.
603
00:24:19.442 --> 00:24:20.773
You're worse than ones that lick
604
00:24:20.773 --> 00:24:23.200
vaginas of little babies.
605
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:24.510
You kill babies.
606
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(Deeyah) They start targeting me.
607
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You are one dumb, female Muslim.
608
00:24:30.231 --> 00:24:32.652
You know, if we were out here voicing Sharia law,
609
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we'd go ahead
610
00:24:33.485 --> 00:24:34.973
and take you around the corner and rape you.
611
00:24:34.973 --> 00:24:36.659
If we were a good Muslim.
612
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If we were a good Muslim group,
613
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we'd take you and your little immodest little pants there
614
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around the corner
615
00:24:42.024 --> 00:24:43.360
and we'd have our way with you.
616
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(Protestor) Sharia law.
617
00:24:44.420 --> 00:24:45.482
Yeah, you want to get raped.
618
00:24:45.482 --> 00:24:46.471
Pedophile abusing Muslim,
619
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that's what you are.
620
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Got Jihad Jane right out here.
621
00:24:49.310 --> 00:24:50.970
Your lifestyle,
622
00:24:50.970 --> 00:24:52.420
dressing like a whore
623
00:24:53.687 --> 00:24:56.597
provokes people to have dirty sex.
624
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(Deeyah) I've received abuse like this
625
00:24:59.800 --> 00:25:01.970
so many times in my work,
626
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I thought I was used to it.
627
00:25:04.005 --> 00:25:05.914
Jihadist Islamic woman-
628
00:25:05.914 --> 00:25:07.450
(Deeyah) But after weeks of filming here,
629
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I briefly lose my cool.
630
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Step back.
631
00:25:11.215 --> 00:25:12.048
Yeah?
632
00:25:12.048 --> 00:25:12.881
Step back.
633
00:25:12.881 --> 00:25:13.714
This is a free country.
634
00:25:13.714 --> 00:25:14.547
(crosstalk)
635
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(Protestor) Control yourself.
636
00:25:15.540 --> 00:25:17.913
(Deeyah) So you think me wearing these jeans?
637
00:25:17.913 --> 00:25:18.746
You're provoking rape.
638
00:25:18.746 --> 00:25:21.320
I wouldn't be surprised if you get raped tonight,
639
00:25:21.320 --> 00:25:23.283
wearing those jeans, walking down the street.
640
00:25:23.283 --> 00:25:24.500
Have some shame.
641
00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:25.406
I've repented.
642
00:25:25.406 --> 00:25:26.239
Have some shame.
643
00:25:26.239 --> 00:25:27.072
All right, you talk,
644
00:25:27.072 --> 00:25:28.090
you listen.
645
00:25:28.090 --> 00:25:29.580
We talk, you listen.
646
00:25:29.580 --> 00:25:32.066
We're not giving women permission to speak right now.
647
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So be quiet.
648
00:25:33.434 --> 00:25:34.267
(Protestor) Check to see if she's got any balls on her.
649
00:25:34.267 --> 00:25:36.180
Oh, it was just a little nipple.
650
00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:37.830
Oh, just a little sexy.
651
00:25:37.830 --> 00:25:38.663
(Deeyah) Although I've become
652
00:25:38.663 --> 00:25:41.190
caught up in the angry exchanges,
653
00:25:41.190 --> 00:25:42.650
I do want to understand
654
00:25:42.650 --> 00:25:45.125
what these protestors believe in.
655
00:25:45.125 --> 00:25:47.026
So I try to get them to talk to me.
656
00:25:47.026 --> 00:25:47.970
No he's preaching.
657
00:25:47.970 --> 00:25:48.803
No, but seriously.
658
00:25:48.803 --> 00:25:49.636
Ask this guy.
659
00:25:49.636 --> 00:25:50.469
He's preaching.
660
00:25:50.469 --> 00:25:51.302
Ask him.
661
00:25:51.302 --> 00:25:52.230
Abortion is murder.
662
00:25:52.230 --> 00:25:53.063
How's that?
663
00:25:53.063 --> 00:25:54.320
(Deeyah) Is that the gist of it?
664
00:25:54.320 --> 00:25:55.170
That's why we're here.
665
00:25:55.170 --> 00:25:56.670
That's why we're in this sidewalk.
666
00:25:56.670 --> 00:25:58.660
And so what should happen?
667
00:25:58.660 --> 00:25:59.493
What should?
668
00:25:59.493 --> 00:26:00.650
Stop murdering babies.
669
00:26:00.650 --> 00:26:02.680
(Deeyah) And he tells me he thinks President Trump
670
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:04.090
is on his side.
671
00:26:04.090 --> 00:26:05.200
He will do it.
672
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:09.030
We will get people within the Supreme Court.
673
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And on this second term,
674
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we will actually change Roe V. Wade.
675
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He's going through the court system.
676
00:26:17.800 --> 00:26:19.710
That's really, that's what's gonna happen.
677
00:26:19.710 --> 00:26:22.080
He's put more federal judges
678
00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:23.560
that are conservative
679
00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:27.150
in America that are surpass his life.
680
00:26:27.150 --> 00:26:30.643
So yes, Roe V. Wade will be overturned.
681
00:26:31.850 --> 00:26:34.960
True Christianity will always be around
682
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:36.570
and I do represent it.
683
00:26:36.570 --> 00:26:37.540
And you'll be surprised
684
00:26:37.540 --> 00:26:39.590
how many people like me
685
00:26:39.590 --> 00:26:42.340
exist in our beloved country, America.
686
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(Preacher>Come to our land
687
00:26:43.350 --> 00:26:45.023
so that you may bless us again.
688
00:26:45.926 --> 00:26:50.260
We understand that if we don't turn to you and repent-
689
00:26:50.260 --> 00:26:53.233
(Deeyah) There's a war on abortion in Trump's America.
690
00:26:54.180 --> 00:26:56.960
Every day, protestors hurl abuse at patients
691
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:58.460
entering this clinic
692
00:26:58.460 --> 00:27:00.723
and many more across the country.
693
00:27:02.906 --> 00:27:04.546
Don't go in that wicked place.
694
00:27:04.546 --> 00:27:07.660
They torture your children to death.
695
00:27:07.660 --> 00:27:12.300
Since 2014, reports of hate mail, obstruction,
696
00:27:12.300 --> 00:27:16.350
and disruption of clinics have increased 24 times.
697
00:27:16.350 --> 00:27:19.800
And violence, including invasion, death threats,
698
00:27:19.800 --> 00:27:22.850
and assault has increased 17 times.
699
00:27:22.850 --> 00:27:25.494
(Preacher>Liars go to the lake of fire.
700
00:27:25.494 --> 00:27:27.015
(Protestor) This is America,
701
00:27:27.015 --> 00:27:28.554
this is the home of the free,
702
00:27:28.554 --> 00:27:31.554
land of the free, home of the brave.
703
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.930
(Deeyah) I've been filming with Dr. Yashica Robinson
704
00:27:41.930 --> 00:27:43.383
and her partner Dalton.
705
00:27:44.320 --> 00:27:46.520
They run the Alabama Women's Center,
706
00:27:46.520 --> 00:27:49.403
one of the few abortion clinics left in the state.
707
00:27:50.420 --> 00:27:52.970
Harassment has become a part of their working life.
708
00:27:56.150 --> 00:27:58.520
I mean, I take the precautions that I can
709
00:27:58.520 --> 00:28:00.130
to make sure that I feel safe
710
00:28:00.130 --> 00:28:01.490
and that my family feel safe.
711
00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:04.180 line:15%
When I pull up to the hospital at night,
712
00:28:04.180 --> 00:28:06.380 line:15%
I make sure that I park in the front of the hospital
713
00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:07.380
in a well lit place.
714
00:28:07.380 --> 00:28:09.610
I never park on the back side of the hospital.
715
00:28:09.610 --> 00:28:12.380
I check my surroundings before I step out of my vehicle.
716
00:28:12.380 --> 00:28:13.810
I also know that it's important
717
00:28:13.810 --> 00:28:15.050
that I'm outspoken
718
00:28:15.050 --> 00:28:16.660
about what is going on
719
00:28:16.660 --> 00:28:19.830
when there's nobody that's willing to speak up.
720
00:28:19.830 --> 00:28:21.920
It makes it very difficult for us to fight
721
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.950
for what we know our patients need.
722
00:28:23.950 --> 00:28:25.963
I can't do that and hide my face.
723
00:28:30.320 --> 00:28:31.950
Two decades ago,
724
00:28:31.950 --> 00:28:35.100
there were over 20 abortion clinics in Alabama.
725
00:28:35.100 --> 00:28:37.290
Now there are just three
726
00:28:37.290 --> 00:28:38.683
and they're under siege.
727
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.300
It's not just the protestors on their doorstep.
728
00:28:44.300 --> 00:28:45.680
The war on abortion
729
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:47.040
is also being waged
730
00:28:47.040 --> 00:28:49.323
through the state legislators and the courts.
731
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.850
Alabama clinics have to operate
732
00:28:54.850 --> 00:28:56.563
under tight restrictions.
733
00:28:58.370 --> 00:29:00.930
Patients have to attend at least two appointments,
734
00:29:00.930 --> 00:29:03.180
spaced out by 48 hours,
735
00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:05.073
before the abortion can go ahead.
736
00:29:06.140 --> 00:29:06.973
Hello.
737
00:29:06.973 --> 00:29:07.806
I'm Dr. Robinson.
738
00:29:07.806 --> 00:29:09.125
I understand you plan to do the pill.
739
00:29:09.125 --> 00:29:09.958
Is that correct?
740
00:29:09.958 --> 00:29:10.791
Yes.
741
00:29:10.791 --> 00:29:11.750
Because she's early in pregnancy.
742
00:29:11.750 --> 00:29:13.320
Misty can take a pill
743
00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:15.550
which will induce a miscarriage,
744
00:29:15.550 --> 00:29:17.040
but the restrictions have made things
745
00:29:17.040 --> 00:29:18.520
much more difficult for her.
746
00:29:18.520 --> 00:29:19.710
I greatly appreciate it.
747
00:29:19.710 --> 00:29:20.630
You are so welcome.
748
00:29:20.630 --> 00:29:22.930
It's three appointments for me to come here
749
00:29:22.930 --> 00:29:25.290
and they have to be spaced out.
750
00:29:25.290 --> 00:29:27.090
They have to be at least 48 hours apart.
751
00:29:27.090 --> 00:29:27.923
They have to be all those things.
752
00:29:27.923 --> 00:29:30.093
So they just make it ridiculously difficult.
753
00:29:31.290 --> 00:29:33.760
And they're continuing to try to do that more.
754
00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:35.120
(Deeyah) Another regulation
755
00:29:35.120 --> 00:29:38.020
is that the patient must undergo an ultrasound
756
00:29:38.020 --> 00:29:39.140
and be offered the option
757
00:29:39.140 --> 00:29:41.313
of seeing what the fetus looks like.
758
00:29:42.373 --> 00:29:43.220
The men who make these rules,
759
00:29:43.220 --> 00:29:45.620
they add an extra ultrasound
760
00:29:45.620 --> 00:29:47.400
so that you have to hear a heartbeat,
761
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.950
so that you have to think about that part of it.
762
00:29:49.950 --> 00:29:50.873
And you can't,
763
00:29:52.930 --> 00:29:55.053
you can't make your decisions based on emotion.
764
00:29:55.053 --> 00:29:56.010
You know, you have to make your decisions
765
00:29:56.010 --> 00:29:56.843
based on fact.
766
00:29:56.843 --> 00:29:58.903
They make it more difficult so you won't do it.
767
00:29:58.903 --> 00:30:00.220
They take away your choices.
768
00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:02.363
They wanna play on your heartstrings.
769
00:30:04.770 --> 00:30:07.630
Another issue is the increasing costs of an abortion
770
00:30:07.630 --> 00:30:09.583
for people living on the breadline.
771
00:30:10.930 --> 00:30:14.580
Alex, who'd earlier shared with me that she'd been raped,
772
00:30:14.580 --> 00:30:17.513
has left the pregnancy until its 20th week.
773
00:30:19.770 --> 00:30:21.280
Why did you wait so long?
774
00:30:21.280 --> 00:30:23.610
I honestly didn't think I would have funding
775
00:30:23.610 --> 00:30:27.493
and we were saving so much money to do it.
776
00:30:27.493 --> 00:30:28.430
(Deeyah) You didn't have the money
777
00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:29.263
for the abortion?
778
00:30:29.263 --> 00:30:30.160
No.
779
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.150
(Deeyah) In the end, she was one of the lucky ones.
780
00:30:33.150 --> 00:30:35.450
A private, pro-choice organization
781
00:30:35.450 --> 00:30:39.010
agreed to pay her expenses for the operation.
782
00:30:39.010 --> 00:30:41.990
But now she has another trial to face.
783
00:30:41.990 --> 00:30:44.180
Because her trip is over a weekend,
784
00:30:44.180 --> 00:30:46.160
the delay imposed by the law
785
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.890
means she has to wait almost a week in Huntsville
786
00:30:48.890 --> 00:30:51.023
before the abortion can go ahead.
787
00:30:52.493 --> 00:30:53.326
That's what, this is,
788
00:30:53.326 --> 00:30:55.030
what's really hurting me about this situation,
789
00:30:55.030 --> 00:30:56.790
being here in Huntsville with this,
790
00:30:56.790 --> 00:30:58.440
because it's been a week.
791
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.680
And so I'm dealing with this a week later.
792
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.260
It's, that's hateful.
793
00:31:02.260 --> 00:31:04.620
That's the hate to me.
794
00:31:04.620 --> 00:31:07.947
So, (Alex whispers) I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.
795
00:31:19.550 --> 00:31:21.100
I think patients like that,
796
00:31:21.100 --> 00:31:22.230
they highlight everything
797
00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:24.240
that's wrong with our system.
798
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.700
There is very few providers
799
00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:28.490
who can provide the care.
800
00:31:28.490 --> 00:31:32.240
When women can't access care in a timely manner,
801
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.530
they're pushed to later in the pregnancy.
802
00:31:35.530 --> 00:31:40.530
She highlights how harmful restrictions on abortion care,
803
00:31:40.870 --> 00:31:42.190
like waiting periods,
804
00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:44.640
how harmful that can be to patients,
805
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.138
because after she has already driven so far,
806
00:31:47.138 --> 00:31:48.970
she has to turn around and wait.
807
00:31:48.970 --> 00:31:50.960
I mean, she highlights everything
808
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:52.200
that's wrong with this.
809
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.870
Stick and then you'll feel a little sting.
810
00:31:54.870 --> 00:31:57.000
Patients like that you never forget.
811
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.420
There is no other medical specialists
812
00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:01.780
that have legislators
813
00:32:01.780 --> 00:32:04.720
constantly challenging the services they provide
814
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.710
to their patients and how they do it.
815
00:32:07.710 --> 00:32:09.740
But I face that
816
00:32:09.740 --> 00:32:11.830
because I choose to provide
817
00:32:11.830 --> 00:32:13.790
this full spectrum of care,
818
00:32:13.790 --> 00:32:15.503
including abortion care.
819
00:32:20.430 --> 00:32:22.220
Across the whole of America,
820
00:32:22.220 --> 00:32:26.380
the physical threat to abortion providers is real.
821
00:32:26.380 --> 00:32:30.900
Since 1977, there have been 11 murders,
822
00:32:30.900 --> 00:32:34.600
26 attempted murders, 42 bombings,
823
00:32:34.600 --> 00:32:36.650
189 arsons,
824
00:32:36.650 --> 00:32:38.880
and thousands of other lesser crimes
825
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.773
directed at abortion providers.
826
00:32:44.930 --> 00:32:47.270
I've come to Kansas to visit a clinic
827
00:32:47.270 --> 00:32:50.033
that suffered brutal violence over the years.
828
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.640
It's easy to find the Trust Women center in Wichita
829
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.430
because of the giant anti-abortion van
830
00:32:57.430 --> 00:32:58.520
and, once again,
831
00:32:58.520 --> 00:33:00.720
the protestors hanging around outside.
832
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.220
Okay, well good luck.
833
00:33:02.220 --> 00:33:03.840
(Deeyah) So what are you doing here today?
834
00:33:03.840 --> 00:33:04.673
What are we?
835
00:33:04.673 --> 00:33:06.170
We're saving lives out here.
836
00:33:06.170 --> 00:33:08.570
We are trying to convince women
837
00:33:08.570 --> 00:33:10.850
that they don't have to kill their child.
838
00:33:10.850 --> 00:33:13.160
And what is happening inside
839
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:14.310
is the violence that you see
840
00:33:14.310 --> 00:33:16.040
on the side of the truck.
841
00:33:16.040 --> 00:33:17.550
That's the truth truck, by the way.
842
00:33:17.550 --> 00:33:19.000
We call that the truth truck.
843
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.420
(Deeyah) In the war on abortion,
844
00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:26.833
this clinic, may be it's ground zero.
845
00:33:27.760 --> 00:33:28.840
Hi.
846
00:33:28.840 --> 00:33:29.970
Hi, how are you, sweetie?
847
00:33:29.970 --> 00:33:30.803
I'm Julie.
848
00:33:30.803 --> 00:33:32.460
(Deeyah) Julie Burkhart and her staff
849
00:33:32.460 --> 00:33:34.470
are under perhaps the greatest risk
850
00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:37.445
of any clinic workers in America.
851
00:33:37.445 --> 00:33:40.220
There are no windows
852
00:33:40.220 --> 00:33:41.053
in this building.
853
00:33:41.053 --> 00:33:41.886
That's correct.
854
00:33:41.886 --> 00:33:45.000
We have just a few windows,
855
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.830
but they're high up.
856
00:33:46.830 --> 00:33:48.520
And the reason for that is
857
00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:50.173
if there's ever a sniper,
858
00:33:51.370 --> 00:33:54.293
we would be able to keep staff a little safer.
859
00:33:56.180 --> 00:33:58.650
This building's been bombed.
860
00:33:58.650 --> 00:34:00.330
It's been flooded.
861
00:34:00.330 --> 00:34:01.500
There's a one death threat
862
00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:03.670
that still really,
863
00:34:03.670 --> 00:34:06.006
I think because it was so graphic,
864
00:34:06.006 --> 00:34:08.290
following me,
865
00:34:08.290 --> 00:34:10.320
dragging me outta my car,
866
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.870
and beating me to a bloody pulp.
867
00:34:12.870 --> 00:34:14.945
We, we live and breathe this every day,
868
00:34:14.945 --> 00:34:17.000
you know, to help other people.
869
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.680
Someone wants to drag you outta your car
870
00:34:19.680 --> 00:34:21.400
and beat you to a bloody pulp.
871
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:22.233
It's like,
872
00:34:23.590 --> 00:34:24.990
and you're a Christian?
873
00:34:24.990 --> 00:34:26.080
How could you love someone?
874
00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:27.980
How could you say that to someone?
875
00:34:27.980 --> 00:34:28.813
It's just,
876
00:34:30.350 --> 00:34:31.470
how?
877
00:34:31.470 --> 00:34:34.010
Like, how do you think that is okay?
878
00:34:34.010 --> 00:34:35.893
I'm not gonna live in fear.
879
00:34:37.830 --> 00:34:39.350
I mean, I hope no one murders me,
880
00:34:39.350 --> 00:34:42.100
because, I,
881
00:34:42.100 --> 00:34:43.893
I think I could have a long life.
882
00:34:47.170 --> 00:34:50.190
It, you know, makes me want to do it more.
883
00:34:50.190 --> 00:34:51.860
It gives me that...
884
00:34:54.490 --> 00:34:56.733
It gives my, gives me my power back.
885
00:34:58.490 --> 00:35:00.160
(Deeyah) Everyone here is haunted
886
00:35:00.160 --> 00:35:01.873
by the memory of an atrocity.
887
00:35:02.710 --> 00:35:05.560
The clinic was founded by Dr. George Tiller.
888
00:35:05.560 --> 00:35:07.970
For decades, he was the premier hate figure
889
00:35:07.970 --> 00:35:09.680
of the anti-abortion movement
890
00:35:09.680 --> 00:35:11.660
because he provided abortions to women
891
00:35:11.660 --> 00:35:12.973
late in pregnancy.
892
00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:14.820
Dr. Tiller.
893
00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:16.210
He was my boss.
894
00:35:16.210 --> 00:35:18.220
He was my mentor.
895
00:35:18.220 --> 00:35:19.740
He just really wanted, you know,
896
00:35:19.740 --> 00:35:23.090
people to be able to live their best lives.
897
00:35:23.090 --> 00:35:24.890
In 1991,
898
00:35:24.890 --> 00:35:26.400
thousands of protestors
899
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.880
stage sit-ins for six weeks outside the clinic.
900
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.420
In 1993,
901
00:35:31.420 --> 00:35:32.810
he was shot and wounded
902
00:35:32.810 --> 00:35:34.630
by an anti-abortion extremist,
903
00:35:34.630 --> 00:35:37.503
Shelley Shannon, but he was soon back at work.
904
00:35:38.350 --> 00:35:39.393 line:15%
(Reporter) Is this gonna change anything
905
00:35:39.393 --> 00:35:41.930 line:15%
about the way you do business here?
906
00:35:41.930 --> 00:35:43.200 line:15%
I don't think so.
907
00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:44.514 line:15%
Have the, the wonderful opportunity
908
00:35:44.514 --> 00:35:45.920 line:15%
to go to work and help people today.
909
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.970
(Deeyah) The pressure was intensifying.
910
00:35:48.944 --> 00:35:50.420
My office had been blown up.
911
00:35:50.420 --> 00:35:53.370
1993, I survived an assassination attempt.
912
00:35:53.370 --> 00:35:56.040
(Deeyah) National television ran angry debates
913
00:35:56.040 --> 00:35:57.450
and opinion pieces,
914
00:35:57.450 --> 00:35:59.933
further increasing awareness of Dr. Tiller.
915
00:35:59.933 --> 00:36:01.540 line:15%
This man, Dr. George Tiller,
916
00:36:01.540 --> 00:36:04.060 line:15%
known as Tiller the baby killer
917
00:36:04.060 --> 00:36:05.610 line:15%
is performing late term abortions
918
00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:08.600 line:15%
without defining the specific medical reasons why.
919
00:36:08.600 --> 00:36:09.980 line:15%
Dr. George Tiller,
920
00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:13.240 line:15%
who is one of the few doctors in the United States
921
00:36:13.240 --> 00:36:15.530 line:15%
who performs the Hitlerian procedure
922
00:36:15.530 --> 00:36:17.710 line:15%
known as a partial birth abortion-
923
00:36:17.710 --> 00:36:19.459
Tiller has killed thousands,
924
00:36:19.459 --> 00:36:21.690
thousands of late term fetuses
925
00:36:21.690 --> 00:36:22.880
without explanation.
926
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.050
No question, Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands.
927
00:36:26.050 --> 00:36:26.883
No it's Tiller-
928
00:36:26.883 --> 00:36:27.716
Tiller the killer is part-
929
00:36:27.716 --> 00:36:28.720
It's Tiller the baby killer,
930
00:36:28.720 --> 00:36:29.553
which is what he is known by.
931
00:36:29.553 --> 00:36:31.030
Oh, Tiller the baby killer.
932
00:36:31.030 --> 00:36:31.880
Oh, absolutely.
933
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.019
He's known by that for certain groups.
934
00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:34.910
But you know
And I'm supposed
935
00:36:34.910 --> 00:36:35.743
I tell you, Bill,
to report that?
936
00:36:35.743 --> 00:36:36.576
the thing-
937
00:36:36.576 --> 00:36:38.220
We knew he drove an armored vehicle,
938
00:36:38.220 --> 00:36:41.210
had a bulletproof vest, you know,
939
00:36:41.210 --> 00:36:44.200
just the walls were kind of closing in.
940
00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:47.880
(Deeyah) In 2009, they finally got him.
941
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.430
Dr. Tiller was shot dead at his church
942
00:36:50.430 --> 00:36:52.693
by an extremist called Scott Roeder.
943
00:36:53.860 --> 00:36:56.993
At his trial, Roeder defended his actions.
944
00:36:58.038 --> 00:36:58.871
I,
945
00:37:02.060 --> 00:37:04.340
I did what I thought was needed to be done
946
00:37:04.340 --> 00:37:05.670
to protect the children.
947
00:37:05.670 --> 00:37:06.563
I shot him.
948
00:37:07.560 --> 00:37:10.093 line:15%
(Attorney) Did Dr. Tiller drop to the floor instantly?
949
00:37:11.090 --> 00:37:13.520
Two or three seconds later, yes, he did.
950
00:37:13.520 --> 00:37:15.888
The lives of those children were in imminent danger.
951
00:37:15.888 --> 00:37:18.540
If someone did not stop George Tiller,
952
00:37:18.540 --> 00:37:19.650
he was going to continue,
953
00:37:19.650 --> 00:37:23.730
as he had done for 36 years prior to that time.
954
00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:26.730
(Deeyah) He was sentenced to life for first degree murder.
955
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.283
At first, the clinic was shut down,
956
00:37:31.300 --> 00:37:33.840
but then Julie took the decision to reopen
957
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:36.003
and carry on Dr. Tiller's work.
958
00:37:38.600 --> 00:37:40.840
If I don't stand back up
959
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:42.870
and other people don't stand back up
960
00:37:42.870 --> 00:37:46.210
and push against these fanatics,
961
00:37:46.210 --> 00:37:48.783
then they will take us over.
962
00:37:55.682 --> 00:37:57.800
(Deeyah) Hi, it's nice to meet you.
963
00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:58.820
It's nice to meet you too.
964
00:37:58.820 --> 00:38:00.000
Come on in, it's rainy.
965
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.029
You're Jennifer, right?
966
00:38:01.029 --> 00:38:01.862
I am.
967
00:38:01.862 --> 00:38:03.470
Jennifer McCoy has spent years
968
00:38:03.470 --> 00:38:05.170
protesting outside Julie's clinic.
969
00:38:06.575 --> 00:38:07.520
All right, bye bye.
970
00:38:07.520 --> 00:38:08.528
Good.
971
00:38:08.528 --> 00:38:09.930
We're gonna take my car right there.
972
00:38:09.930 --> 00:38:11.600
So you never skip a Friday?
973
00:38:11.600 --> 00:38:12.557
No, uh-uh.
974
00:38:13.630 --> 00:38:15.240
Why not?
975
00:38:15.240 --> 00:38:16.073
Because
976
00:38:17.290 --> 00:38:19.923
you miss an opportunity to help somebody else.
977
00:38:21.520 --> 00:38:25.100
I've been outside this place a good 25 years.
978
00:38:25.100 --> 00:38:26.070
I call it the mill,
979
00:38:26.070 --> 00:38:27.730
because I feel like that's what it is.
980
00:38:27.730 --> 00:38:29.160
It's a kill mill.
981
00:38:29.160 --> 00:38:31.410
And I've known Julie for
982
00:38:31.410 --> 00:38:32.960
as long as I've been out there.
983
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:36.910
I'm fairly certain she dabbles in the satanic world
984
00:38:36.910 --> 00:38:38.203
or at least Wiccans.
985
00:38:45.040 --> 00:38:46.570
Can I offer you some information?
986
00:38:46.570 --> 00:38:48.410
(Deeyah) In the 1990s,
987
00:38:48.410 --> 00:38:50.760
Jennifer spent 30 months in prison
988
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.840
after being convicted of conspiracy to commit arson
989
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.920
against two abortion clinics in Virginia.
990
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:58.570
Wrote the wrong time down on the wrong car.
991
00:38:58.570 --> 00:39:00.660
(Deeyah) She says she campaigns legally now,
992
00:39:00.660 --> 00:39:04.482
spending every Friday outside Julie's clinic.
993
00:39:04.482 --> 00:39:07.487
(Deeyah) Have you ever spoken to Jennifer?
994
00:39:07.487 --> 00:39:09.080
No.
995
00:39:09.080 --> 00:39:11.470
I'm, she's yelled at me.
996
00:39:11.470 --> 00:39:14.503
That's as far as our conversations have gone.
997
00:39:15.550 --> 00:39:19.320
She's been a fixture, you know?
998
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:20.520
So, yeah.
999
00:39:20.520 --> 00:39:22.213
She's one of the names we know.
1000
00:39:23.460 --> 00:39:26.310
Jennifer tells me she became a campaigner
1001
00:39:26.310 --> 00:39:28.230
because she was forced to have an abortion
1002
00:39:28.230 --> 00:39:30.573
against her will when she was younger.
1003
00:39:33.850 --> 00:39:37.630
Watching the devastation of somebody else's soul
1004
00:39:37.630 --> 00:39:40.730
and knowing what they'll go through
1005
00:39:40.730 --> 00:39:42.130
after they go through this gate,
1006
00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:43.133
when they come out,
1007
00:39:44.140 --> 00:39:45.990
it honestly wears on people.
1008
00:39:45.990 --> 00:39:48.490
If you care about other people.
1009
00:39:48.490 --> 00:39:51.460
So many lives, so many souls
1010
00:39:51.460 --> 00:39:54.410
are ruined and hurt and broken.
1011
00:39:54.410 --> 00:39:56.410
Sometimes beyond repair.
1012
00:39:56.410 --> 00:40:00.190
I do feel like this is where God wants me to be.
1013
00:40:00.190 --> 00:40:01.773
This is what he wants me to do.
1014
00:40:07.270 --> 00:40:10.520
(Deeyah) Scott Roeder, the man who murdered Dr. Tiller,
1015
00:40:10.520 --> 00:40:13.130
has links with a shadowy anti-abortion network
1016
00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:15.553
called The Army of God.
1017
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.370
Often when people carry out attacks on clinics,
1018
00:40:19.370 --> 00:40:20.770
they claim they're doing it
1019
00:40:20.770 --> 00:40:22.783
in the name of The Army of God.
1020
00:40:24.850 --> 00:40:27.010
Since the early 1980s,
1021
00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:30.640
many bombings, arson, and acid attacks on clinics,
1022
00:40:30.640 --> 00:40:33.840
as well as the murder of at least three abortion doctors,
1023
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:36.360
have been carried out by domestic terrorists
1024
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.030
using the name, The Army of God.
1025
00:40:39.030 --> 00:40:42.040
Two bombs exploded last month at an Atlanta clinic
1026
00:40:42.040 --> 00:40:43.164
where abortions are performed.
1027
00:40:43.164 --> 00:40:43.997
(bomb explodes)
1028
00:40:43.997 --> 00:40:45.524
Oh, my god.
1029
00:40:45.524 --> 00:40:46.840
A Chicago area man,
1030
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.090
who federal investigators say pledged allegiance
1031
00:40:49.090 --> 00:40:52.200
to the domestic terror group called Army of God,
1032
00:40:52.200 --> 00:40:54.440
now facing charges connected with a threat
1033
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.140
to burn down a local abortion clinic.
1034
00:40:57.140 --> 00:41:00.980
(Deeyah) In 2018, Luke Wiersma was arrested after planning
1035
00:41:00.980 --> 00:41:04.523
to bomb and burn a number of Chicago abortion clinics.
1036
00:41:05.740 --> 00:41:07.920
They say he is a self-professed member
1037
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.280
of The Army of God,
1038
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:10.570
that federal agents consider
1039
00:41:10.570 --> 00:41:13.610
to be a Christian domestic terror organization.
1040
00:41:13.610 --> 00:41:16.930
(Deeyah) He was imprisoned for a year and a half.
1041
00:41:16.930 --> 00:41:19.700
The Army of God's website openly celebrates
1042
00:41:19.700 --> 00:41:23.783
the murder of abortion doctors and praises the killers.
1043
00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:27.700
I'm heading to Virginia
1044
00:41:27.700 --> 00:41:30.203
to meet the man who runs the website.
1045
00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:43.135
Donald Spitz is an ordained Pentecostal minister.
1046
00:41:43.135 --> 00:41:46.310
He tells me that The Army of God is just a name
1047
00:41:46.310 --> 00:41:49.033
which people use when they carry out their actions.
1048
00:41:54.070 --> 00:41:56.290
The Army of God is,
1049
00:41:56.290 --> 00:41:59.630
is a moniker that people use
1050
00:41:59.630 --> 00:42:01.600
when they bomb an abortion clinic
1051
00:42:01.600 --> 00:42:03.600
or burn an abortion clinic,
1052
00:42:03.600 --> 00:42:06.050
or take action against the abortionists.
1053
00:42:06.050 --> 00:42:10.690
Sometimes they associate an Army of God,
1054
00:42:10.690 --> 00:42:12.900
the name Army of God, with their action.
1055
00:42:12.900 --> 00:42:15.290
I mean, I've been accused of, you know,
1056
00:42:15.290 --> 00:42:17.860
being the spokesperson for The Army of God
1057
00:42:17.860 --> 00:42:20.070
or being the head of The Army of God.
1058
00:42:20.070 --> 00:42:21.853
But that's, that's not so.
1059
00:42:23.032 --> 00:42:25.630
The Army of God is, we're not an organization.
1060
00:42:25.630 --> 00:42:28.483
It's not like you get a membership.
1061
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.350
The Army of God
1062
00:42:34.230 --> 00:42:37.420
is people that want to save unborn children
1063
00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:42.077
that use force or support the use of force, you know,
1064
00:42:42.077 --> 00:42:43.380
to, to stop it.
1065
00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:48.350
Many abortionists have quit because of The Army of God.
1066
00:42:48.350 --> 00:42:50.600
(Deeyah) He shows me the Army of God website,
1067
00:42:50.600 --> 00:42:54.180
which lists prisoners who have carried out violent actions
1068
00:42:54.180 --> 00:42:56.420
as prisoners of Christ.
1069
00:42:56.420 --> 00:42:59.330
The first person on the list is Paul Hill.
1070
00:42:59.330 --> 00:43:03.720
Paul Hill shot an abortionist
1071
00:43:03.720 --> 00:43:05.160
and his bodyguard,
1072
00:43:05.160 --> 00:43:07.950
and the wife of the bodyguard, but she survived.
1073
00:43:07.950 --> 00:43:09.370
They put Paul Hill to death.
1074
00:43:09.370 --> 00:43:10.203
I was there.
1075
00:43:10.203 --> 00:43:11.560
We were best friends.
1076
00:43:11.560 --> 00:43:13.210
I was his spiritual advisor.
1077
00:43:13.210 --> 00:43:16.167
I was with him the last two weeks of his life, every day.
1078
00:43:16.167 --> 00:43:18.890
It was a wonderful time together.
1079
00:43:18.890 --> 00:43:22.730
(Deeyah) The website has a number of pages on Dr. Tiller.
1080
00:43:22.730 --> 00:43:26.790
It compares him to the architects of the Nazi Holocaust
1081
00:43:26.790 --> 00:43:28.380
and it praises Shelley Shannon,
1082
00:43:28.380 --> 00:43:31.740
who attacked Dr. Tiller in 1993.
1083
00:43:31.740 --> 00:43:34.260
She shot Dr. Tiller in the arms.
1084
00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:35.750
He was back the next day.
1085
00:43:35.750 --> 00:43:38.980
He should have taken that as a warning and quit.
1086
00:43:38.980 --> 00:43:40.860
And because he didn't quit,
1087
00:43:40.860 --> 00:43:43.720
then God sent Scott Roeder to,
1088
00:43:43.720 --> 00:43:45.223
to finish it off.
1089
00:43:47.010 --> 00:43:51.200
The website calls Scott Roeder an American hero.
1090
00:43:51.200 --> 00:43:54.723
A close associate of Spitz is John Brockhoeft.
1091
00:43:55.660 --> 00:43:57.650
He spent seven years in prison
1092
00:43:57.650 --> 00:44:00.490
for a string of arson and bomb attacks on clinics
1093
00:44:00.490 --> 00:44:02.873
in Cincinnati in the 1980s.
1094
00:44:07.890 --> 00:44:09.603
He also agrees to meet me.
1095
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.450
I knew that I would be coming against these targets,
1096
00:44:19.450 --> 00:44:21.780 line:15%
these abortion chambers,
1097
00:44:21.780 --> 00:44:24.090 line:15%
with destructive force.
1098
00:44:24.090 --> 00:44:25.930
I knew that I would destroy them,
1099
00:44:25.930 --> 00:44:28.910
either by arson or bombing.
1100
00:44:28.910 --> 00:44:31.310
People in our movement call it murder,
1101
00:44:31.310 --> 00:44:33.310
say abortion is murder.
1102
00:44:33.310 --> 00:44:37.123
But when the government is participating in it,
1103
00:44:37.123 --> 00:44:38.083
then,
1104
00:44:39.650 --> 00:44:42.390
it's a war crime and a crime against humanity.
1105
00:44:42.390 --> 00:44:46.713
We have body counts and we have bombings.
1106
00:44:47.610 --> 00:44:50.070
We have soldiers.
1107
00:44:50.070 --> 00:44:54.170
We have war criminals and death.
1108
00:44:54.170 --> 00:44:55.003
So,
1109
00:44:56.470 --> 00:44:58.760
those who are attuned into these things
1110
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.830
realize that this is war.
1111
00:45:00.830 --> 00:45:05.690
The Lord is gonna restore his people to power.
1112
00:45:05.690 --> 00:45:06.940
We're gonna win this war.
1113
00:45:08.130 --> 00:45:10.223
(Deeyah) What if you are wrong?
1114
00:45:10.223 --> 00:45:11.823
I know I'm not wrong.
1115
00:45:12.843 --> 00:45:15.443
(Deeyah) What if you're on the wrong side of this?
1116
00:45:16.820 --> 00:45:18.590
It's inconceivable.
1117
00:45:18.590 --> 00:45:20.483
It's inconceivable.
1118
00:45:20.483 --> 00:45:21.710
(Deeyah) Are you a fanatic?
1119
00:45:21.710 --> 00:45:23.170
Sure, I am.
1120
00:45:23.170 --> 00:45:26.010
Obviously I'm very passionate about it
1121
00:45:26.010 --> 00:45:27.463
and willing to die for it.
1122
00:45:29.050 --> 00:45:30.810
What motivated me?
1123
00:45:30.810 --> 00:45:31.693
Shame.
1124
00:45:33.140 --> 00:45:35.463
I was ashamed for not doing it.
1125
00:45:37.330 --> 00:45:39.600
Before I set those fires
1126
00:45:39.600 --> 00:45:40.560
I couldn't look in the mirror
1127
00:45:40.560 --> 00:45:44.150
and hold eye contact with myself for a very long time.
1128
00:45:44.150 --> 00:45:46.110
But after I set those fires,
1129
00:45:46.110 --> 00:45:48.963
I could look myself in the mirror for, indefinitely.
1130
00:45:49.904 --> 00:45:51.833
(Deeyah) What does shame feel like?
1131
00:45:53.430 --> 00:45:55.940
It's like not liking somebody,
1132
00:45:55.940 --> 00:46:00.313
except the one you dislike is yourself.
1133
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:03.370
It's,
1134
00:46:03.370 --> 00:46:04.982
like I'm in the Twilight Zone and,
1135
00:46:04.982 --> 00:46:06.700
and I can't get out.
1136
00:46:06.700 --> 00:46:08.640
I can't find an exit.
1137
00:46:08.640 --> 00:46:10.190
I'm too old for that stuff, now.
1138
00:46:10.190 --> 00:46:12.000
I have all these health problems.
1139
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:13.920
(Deeyah) Do you wish you could?
1140
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:15.050
Yeah.
1141
00:46:15.050 --> 00:46:17.090
Every day I'm remorseful
1142
00:46:18.410 --> 00:46:19.830
because babies are being killed
1143
00:46:19.830 --> 00:46:21.560
and I'm not,
1144
00:46:21.560 --> 00:46:24.410
and my response is not proportionate
1145
00:46:24.410 --> 00:46:28.520
to the enormity and magnitude of the evil
1146
00:46:28.520 --> 00:46:31.863
and the urgency and level of desperation.
1147
00:46:33.370 --> 00:46:36.340
Since the election of Donald Trump in 2016,
1148
00:46:36.340 --> 00:46:38.540
bomb threats, invasions, and assaults
1149
00:46:38.540 --> 00:46:42.170
on staff at abortion clinics have all escalated.
1150
00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:45.080
Nearly half of all abortion providers have reported
1151
00:46:45.080 --> 00:46:46.370
severe violence,
1152
00:46:46.370 --> 00:46:47.680
threat of violence,
1153
00:46:47.680 --> 00:46:49.313
or severe harassment.
1154
00:46:52.260 --> 00:46:57.260
Since the Trump/Pence administration,
1155
00:46:57.260 --> 00:47:02.260
I've seen an increase in like harassment.
1156
00:47:02.310 --> 00:47:06.250
I feel like the protesters feel more empowered.
1157
00:47:06.250 --> 00:47:09.550
I've seen more anti-abortion legislation
1158
00:47:09.550 --> 00:47:11.910
being pushed forward.
1159
00:47:11.910 --> 00:47:13.670
With the Trump administration
1160
00:47:13.670 --> 00:47:15.377
things have gotten worse for women.
1161
00:47:15.377 --> 00:47:17.280
I have to say this there's been
1162
00:47:19.514 --> 00:47:23.157
a rise in interest from very young people.
1163
00:47:24.250 --> 00:47:25.380
People in their twenties,
1164
00:47:25.380 --> 00:47:27.860
young twenties, high teens,
1165
00:47:27.860 --> 00:47:30.070
there's been like a new wave of people
1166
00:47:30.070 --> 00:47:32.630
and some have even taken action.
1167
00:47:32.630 --> 00:47:33.463
So that's good.
1168
00:47:36.910 --> 00:47:38.264
(Protestor) Turn from them and put our trust
1169
00:47:38.264 --> 00:47:40.570
in the one that can help us
1170
00:47:40.570 --> 00:47:43.623
in the time where we feel we pressured,
1171
00:47:43.623 --> 00:47:44.540
or we feel-
1172
00:47:45.610 --> 00:47:47.400
(Deeyah) It's January, 2020,
1173
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.233
the March for Life rally in Washington, D.C.
1174
00:47:52.990 --> 00:47:55.890
No previous president has ever personally attended
1175
00:47:55.890 --> 00:47:58.943
this annual gathering of anti-abortion protestors.
1176
00:47:59.950 --> 00:48:02.323
But Donald Trump is about to change that.
1177
00:48:05.910 --> 00:48:07.930
It is my profound honor
1178
00:48:07.930 --> 00:48:10.260
to be the first president in history
1179
00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:14.053
to attend the March for Life.
1180
00:48:20.310 --> 00:48:22.610
We're here for a very simple reason,
1181
00:48:22.610 --> 00:48:25.380
to defend the right of every child,
1182
00:48:25.380 --> 00:48:27.600
born and unborn,
1183
00:48:27.600 --> 00:48:30.593
to fulfill their god-given potential.
1184
00:48:32.980 --> 00:48:35.910
(Deeyah) Donald Trump says he's opposed to abortion
1185
00:48:35.910 --> 00:48:38.150
unless it's to save the mother's life
1186
00:48:38.150 --> 00:48:40.543
or in cases of rape or incest.
1187
00:48:43.686 --> 00:48:44.519
(Protestor) It shall die.
1188
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:45.700
(Deeyah) In his time in office,
1189
00:48:45.700 --> 00:48:47.920
he's restricted funds for organizations
1190
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:49.520
that provide abortion
1191
00:48:49.520 --> 00:48:52.283
and placed conservative judges on the Supreme Court.
1192
00:48:53.710 --> 00:48:56.933
And we will win because we know how to win.
1193
00:49:02.500 --> 00:49:04.420
(Deeyah) Abortion is a key issue
1194
00:49:04.420 --> 00:49:06.470
in American political life
1195
00:49:06.470 --> 00:49:08.660
and protestors on the March for Life rally
1196
00:49:08.660 --> 00:49:10.093
are energized by it.
1197
00:49:10.990 --> 00:49:12.600
A physician or a doctor,
1198
00:49:12.600 --> 00:49:16.750
whose job is to help prolong someone's life.
1199
00:49:16.750 --> 00:49:18.870
That's a doctor or physician's job.
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00:49:18.870 --> 00:49:20.410
It's a human life.
1201
00:49:20.410 --> 00:49:23.050
They should deserve all the rights and privileges,
1202
00:49:23.050 --> 00:49:25.633
even though they're not yet come to full term.
1203
00:49:28.310 --> 00:49:29.930
I just feel that people
1204
00:49:29.930 --> 00:49:32.310
who aren't be able to stick up for themselves
1205
00:49:32.310 --> 00:49:34.340
should have someone to represent them.
1206
00:49:34.340 --> 00:49:37.030
I believe thou shall not kill.
1207
00:49:37.030 --> 00:49:38.630
Okay, thank you.
1208
00:49:38.630 --> 00:49:40.910
I meet up with Jennifer McCoy again.
1209
00:49:40.910 --> 00:49:43.780
She's a protestor I'd met in Kansas,
1210
00:49:43.780 --> 00:49:44.660
and her friends,
1211
00:49:44.660 --> 00:49:47.500
Catherine Raimey and Joan Bell.
1212
00:49:47.500 --> 00:49:50.323
They're all long term anti-abortion activists.
1213
00:49:51.164 --> 00:49:51.997
The use of force.
1214
00:49:51.997 --> 00:49:52.830
And I'm a pacifist.
1215
00:49:52.830 --> 00:49:55.010
So I would never do anything.
1216
00:49:55.010 --> 00:49:55.930
I use direct force.
1217
00:49:55.930 --> 00:49:57.660
I have disarmed murder weapons.
1218
00:49:57.660 --> 00:49:58.630
I have cut the cords
1219
00:49:58.630 --> 00:50:00.610
and ripped them out of abortion machines
1220
00:50:00.610 --> 00:50:02.470
and cut their wires of autoclave machines.
1221
00:50:02.470 --> 00:50:04.310
So they couldn't do abortion.
1222
00:50:04.310 --> 00:50:05.143
I believe in that.
1223
00:50:05.143 --> 00:50:06.500
Non-violent direct force.
1224
00:50:06.500 --> 00:50:08.280
That's what I personally believe in.
1225
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.810
(Deeyah) While filming in the Alabama women's center,
1226
00:50:10.810 --> 00:50:13.060
I'd met women who said they'd been raped,
1227
00:50:13.060 --> 00:50:14.260
such as Alex,
1228
00:50:14.260 --> 00:50:18.210
and staff told me of distressing cases of incest.
1229
00:50:18.210 --> 00:50:19.350
Well, we had a,
1230
00:50:19.350 --> 00:50:20.550 line:15%
a little girl come in here once,
1231
00:50:20.550 --> 00:50:21.670 line:15%
she was 11 years old,
1232
00:50:21.670 --> 00:50:24.280 line:15%
she had got raped by her mama's boyfriend.
1233
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:25.570
And I just knew that that little girl
1234
00:50:25.570 --> 00:50:26.760
couldn't go through this, you know,
1235
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.670
she's not even developed yet.
1236
00:50:29.670 --> 00:50:31.220
Her little body was so fragile.
1237
00:50:33.500 --> 00:50:35.550
So it just, it wasn't right.
1238
00:50:35.550 --> 00:50:38.550
(Deeyah) I asked the protestors about these kind of cases.
1239
00:50:40.290 --> 00:50:41.790
Is abortion ever, okay?
1240
00:50:41.790 --> 00:50:43.330
No, never.
1241
00:50:43.330 --> 00:50:44.163
(Deeyah) Never?
1242
00:50:44.163 --> 00:50:45.160
Never.
1243
00:50:45.160 --> 00:50:45.993
(Passenger>Nope.
1244
00:50:45.993 --> 00:50:46.826
Never.
1245
00:50:46.826 --> 00:50:47.659
(Deeyah) So, incest, rape...
1246
00:50:47.659 --> 00:50:48.492
No, of course not.
1247
00:50:48.492 --> 00:50:49.325
No.
1248
00:50:49.325 --> 00:50:50.158
(Deeyah) Of course not?
1249
00:50:50.158 --> 00:50:50.991
Oh no, cause why should a child be punished?
1250
00:50:50.991 --> 00:50:53.200
Why should the baby get the death penalty?
1251
00:50:53.200 --> 00:50:54.850
Cause she can give her baby up for adoption.
1252
00:50:54.850 --> 00:50:55.843
(Male Passenger) If you believe justice, it's wrong.
1253
00:50:55.843 --> 00:50:57.080
(Deeyah) But that's a forced pregnancy.
1254
00:50:57.080 --> 00:50:58.200
I mean, you're forcing a woman
1255
00:50:58.200 --> 00:50:59.033
to endure pregnancy.
Yes.
1256
00:50:59.033 --> 00:51:01.650 line:15%
You know, we all go through circumstances in life
1257
00:51:01.650 --> 00:51:04.860 line:15%
where we are forced to endure something awful.
1258
00:51:04.860 --> 00:51:07.300
(Deeyah) But the, but the, the 12 year old girl
1259
00:51:07.300 --> 00:51:09.080
who's been raped and you're forcing her
1260
00:51:09.080 --> 00:51:10.712
to go through a pregnancy.
Because
1261
00:51:10.712 --> 00:51:13.302
we don't want her to cooperate with a murder.
1262
00:51:13.302 --> 00:51:15.970
Abortion betrays her humanity.
1263
00:51:15.970 --> 00:51:19.150
We ought not to decide that everybody
1264
00:51:19.150 --> 00:51:20.850
can do completely what they want to do.
1265
00:51:20.850 --> 00:51:22.550
(Deeyah) So why not just leave it up to,
1266
00:51:22.550 --> 00:51:24.350
to the individuals to make that decision?
1267
00:51:24.350 --> 00:51:26.960
I'd like to get out there and start getting signatures.
1268
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:28.010
That's what I'd like.
1269
00:51:29.307 --> 00:51:31.570
(Passenger) Well, no, no. I agree.
1270
00:51:31.570 --> 00:51:33.140
(Deeyah) At the last election,
1271
00:51:33.140 --> 00:51:35.270
those who voted for Donald Trump
1272
00:51:35.270 --> 00:51:38.653
included eight out of 10 white evangelicals.
1273
00:51:42.790 --> 00:51:44.510
I've come back to Alabama
1274
00:51:44.510 --> 00:51:47.670
to talk to a man who is both an ordained minister
1275
00:51:47.670 --> 00:51:50.163
and part of the Republican electoral effort.
1276
00:51:51.323 --> 00:51:52.290
Good to see you.
1277
00:51:52.290 --> 00:51:55.260
The Reverend James Henderson and his wife, Carol
1278
00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:56.980
are the organizers of the protests
1279
00:51:56.980 --> 00:51:59.860
outside the Alabama Women's Center.
1280
00:51:59.860 --> 00:52:02.470
We're here for the public to see
1281
00:52:02.470 --> 00:52:04.992
that people do care and people are out here
1282
00:52:04.992 --> 00:52:08.740
and influencing public opinion is important.
1283
00:52:08.740 --> 00:52:11.130
And with that help,
1284
00:52:11.130 --> 00:52:15.510
we have seen four abortion clinics in Huntsville close.
1285
00:52:15.510 --> 00:52:16.890
We were particularly proud
1286
00:52:16.890 --> 00:52:19.770
to get Planned Parenthood out of town.
1287
00:52:19.770 --> 00:52:23.090
(Deeyah) He was a Trump delegate for the 2016 election
1288
00:52:23.090 --> 00:52:25.680
and says he met him at a campaign rally.
1289
00:52:25.680 --> 00:52:29.860
I'm confident that he will exert pressure to make abortion
1290
00:52:29.860 --> 00:52:33.370
totally illegal once and for all in Alabama.
1291
00:52:33.370 --> 00:52:34.820
(Deeyah) Later at his home,
1292
00:52:34.820 --> 00:52:36.380
I asked the Reverend Henderson
1293
00:52:36.380 --> 00:52:38.310
why he supports Donald Trump
1294
00:52:38.310 --> 00:52:41.470
when so many allegations of un-Christian scandals
1295
00:52:41.470 --> 00:52:42.610
have surrounded him.
1296
00:52:42.610 --> 00:52:44.980
Well, if you look at the biblical examples,
1297
00:52:44.980 --> 00:52:47.240
take King David, for instance.
1298
00:52:47.240 --> 00:52:49.783
He was, he was not really such a nice guy.
1299
00:52:51.250 --> 00:52:54.780
Adultery...to me that's a good analogy.
1300
00:52:54.780 --> 00:52:59.470
God can use people who have attributes
1301
00:52:59.470 --> 00:53:03.940
that we might not really care for,
1302
00:53:03.940 --> 00:53:06.080
but if they have the strength
1303
00:53:06.080 --> 00:53:10.240
and are willing to take a stand on certain issues
1304
00:53:10.240 --> 00:53:11.620
and Donald Trump has certainly
1305
00:53:11.620 --> 00:53:13.450
done that with abortion.
1306
00:53:13.450 --> 00:53:16.970
A lot of basic values that a lot of us believe in.
1307
00:53:16.970 --> 00:53:18.710
I felt he was the one that,
1308
00:53:18.710 --> 00:53:20.110
he was the Lord's choice.
1309
00:53:20.110 --> 00:53:21.830
And I still do.
1310
00:53:21.830 --> 00:53:24.260
State Senator Jen Jordan of Georgia
1311
00:53:24.260 --> 00:53:26.650
is a passionate critic of Republican
1312
00:53:26.650 --> 00:53:28.700
policies on abortion.
1313
00:53:28.700 --> 00:53:32.440
But no matter my faith, my beliefs,
1314
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:33.900
my losses,
1315
00:53:33.900 --> 00:53:35.610
I have never, ever strayed
1316
00:53:35.610 --> 00:53:38.483
from the basic principle that each woman,
1317
00:53:39.680 --> 00:53:43.112
each woman must be able to make her decisions
1318
00:53:43.112 --> 00:53:46.270
in consultation with her God and her family.
1319
00:53:46.270 --> 00:53:48.700
I think that this is about
1320
00:53:48.700 --> 00:53:49.950
mobilizing
1321
00:53:51.550 --> 00:53:54.100
part of the base evangelicals
1322
00:53:54.100 --> 00:53:55.447
that are opposed to abortion.
1323
00:53:55.447 --> 00:53:57.850
And this is their number one issue.
1324
00:53:57.850 --> 00:53:59.720
How do you get them to come back out and vote?
1325
00:53:59.720 --> 00:54:01.220
How do you get their support?
1326
00:54:01.220 --> 00:54:04.120
How do you energize them?
1327
00:54:04.120 --> 00:54:07.580
Especially when we have
1328
00:54:07.580 --> 00:54:10.390
such a morally bankrupt president.
1329
00:54:10.390 --> 00:54:13.060
Well, you say it's okay by saying, but,
1330
00:54:13.060 --> 00:54:18.060
but we were able to get abortion outlawed
1331
00:54:18.070 --> 00:54:20.733
and really kind of the political,
1332
00:54:21.950 --> 00:54:24.360
the political deal making that's happening
1333
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.190
and it's happening, you know, you know,
1334
00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:29.340
off the backs of women.
1335
00:54:31.790 --> 00:54:35.510
All of it comes from a very deep place
1336
00:54:35.510 --> 00:54:37.720
of distrust of women.
1337
00:54:37.720 --> 00:54:38.840
You know, I hate to say it,
1338
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.660
but it it's kind of the whole idea of
1339
00:54:43.580 --> 00:54:46.550
Eve's original sin, right?
1340
00:54:46.550 --> 00:54:48.260
(Deeyah) One of the big dividing lines
1341
00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:49.960
of the upcoming election
1342
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:53.020
is the practice of late term abortions.
1343
00:54:53.020 --> 00:54:54.810
For the past four years,
1344
00:54:54.810 --> 00:54:58.540
Donald Trump has falsely accused his Democrat rivals
1345
00:54:58.540 --> 00:55:00.240
of advocating abortion,
1346
00:55:00.240 --> 00:55:02.670
even up to the point of birth.
1347
00:55:02.670 --> 00:55:03.780 line:15%
What Hillary is saying
1348
00:55:03.780 --> 00:55:04.970 line:15%
in the ninth month,
1349
00:55:04.970 --> 00:55:06.620 line:15%
you can take the baby
1350
00:55:06.620 --> 00:55:08.610 line:15%
and rip the baby
1351
00:55:08.610 --> 00:55:10.654 line:15%
out of the womb of the mother,
1352
00:55:10.654 --> 00:55:13.340 line:15%
just prior to the birth of the baby.
1353
00:55:13.340 --> 00:55:15.900
(Deeyah) At his state of the union speech this year,
1354
00:55:15.900 --> 00:55:19.653
he promised to pass drastic legislation if reelected.
1355
00:55:20.870 --> 00:55:24.100
I am asking Congress to pass legislation,
1356
00:55:24.100 --> 00:55:28.910
finally banning the late term abortion of babies.
1357
00:55:28.910 --> 00:55:31.743
(audience cheers)
1358
00:55:33.160 --> 00:55:34.659
Don't like, oh, you are,
1359
00:55:34.659 --> 00:55:35.492
well you're the first.
1360
00:55:35.492 --> 00:55:36.428
So don't stress.
1361
00:55:36.428 --> 00:55:37.910
Don't stress about,
1362
00:55:37.910 --> 00:55:38.743
I was gonna say,
1363
00:55:38.743 --> 00:55:39.820
don't stress about being late.
1364
00:55:42.950 --> 00:55:45.423
Trinity is a lawyer who lives in Georgia.
1365
00:55:46.690 --> 00:55:48.860
When she was 20 weeks pregnant,
1366
00:55:48.860 --> 00:55:50.190
she had to make the decision
1367
00:55:50.190 --> 00:55:52.623
to have an abortion for medical reasons.
1368
00:55:54.710 --> 00:55:58.073
I cannot make the tuck look right.
1369
00:55:58.073 --> 00:55:59.950
I did a french tuck.
1370
00:55:59.950 --> 00:56:01.787
She now runs a support group for women
1371
00:56:01.787 --> 00:56:05.180
who have undergone the same traumatic loss as her.
1372
00:56:05.180 --> 00:56:07.920 line:15%
She had extra fluid on her brain,
1373
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:11.540
as less than 10% of them live to their first birthday.
1374
00:56:11.540 --> 00:56:13.650
I felt like, I think at that moment,
1375
00:56:13.650 --> 00:56:15.740
I knew she's going to die either way.
1376
00:56:15.740 --> 00:56:17.910
If I end the pregnancy,
1377
00:56:17.910 --> 00:56:18.970
or if I don't end the pregnancy,
1378
00:56:18.970 --> 00:56:19.803
I knew she was gonna die.
1379
00:56:19.803 --> 00:56:21.206
And I'm just like, man, I have to give her a name.
1380
00:56:21.206 --> 00:56:22.793
And so we named her.
1381
00:56:25.080 --> 00:56:26.740
We named her Angelica that night
1382
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.440
and I know we made the best decision
1383
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:32.320
that we could for her
1384
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:34.810
because we just did not want Angelica to suffer.
1385
00:56:34.810 --> 00:56:35.670
We didn't want
1386
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:38.940
our living child to suffer.
1387
00:56:38.940 --> 00:56:41.060 line:15%
When we went in for the CVS,
1388
00:56:41.060 --> 00:56:43.500 line:15%
they did a full, really detailed ultrasound
1389
00:56:43.500 --> 00:56:47.820
and the valves, the valves were backwards.
1390
00:56:47.820 --> 00:56:49.950
And the doctor said because of all of that,
1391
00:56:49.950 --> 00:56:51.470
he would never grow lungs
1392
00:56:51.470 --> 00:56:52.493
and would never,
1393
00:56:55.820 --> 00:56:57.560
would never take a breath.
1394
00:56:57.560 --> 00:56:59.260
And I remember going out to my car
1395
00:57:00.150 --> 00:57:01.510
and then I just screamed
1396
00:57:01.510 --> 00:57:02.430
in my car
1397
00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:07.120
and I felt so guilty.
1398
00:57:07.120 --> 00:57:08.760
And I have no reason to feel guilty
1399
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:11.290
because he would never have ever drawn a breath
1400
00:57:11.290 --> 00:57:13.203
because he would've never grown lungs.
1401
00:57:14.410 --> 00:57:17.630
But I still wanted to carry him
1402
00:57:17.630 --> 00:57:19.080
because I wanted to meet him.
1403
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:23.430
I know you did too.
1404
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.540
(Deeyah) If late term abortion is banned,
1405
00:57:26.540 --> 00:57:29.160
women like these would have been forced to carry
1406
00:57:29.160 --> 00:57:32.413
their babies to term with fatal medical conditions.
1407
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:35.790
Although he later withdrew the claim,
1408
00:57:35.790 --> 00:57:38.880
during his election campaign in 2016,
1409
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.510
Donald Trump accepted that women should be punished
1410
00:57:41.510 --> 00:57:42.870
for having an abortion.
1411
00:57:42.870 --> 00:57:44.490 line:15%
Do you believe in punishment for abortion?
1412
00:57:44.490 --> 00:57:45.323 line:15%
Yes or no?
1413
00:57:45.323 --> 00:57:46.216 line:15%
As a principal?
1414
00:57:46.216 --> 00:57:47.800 line:15%
The answer is that
1415
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:49.540 line:15%
there has to be some form of punishment.
1416
00:57:49.540 --> 00:57:50.373 line:15%
For the woman?
1417
00:57:50.373 --> 00:57:51.619 line:15%
Yeah, there has to be some form.
1418
00:57:51.619 --> 00:57:53.150 line:15%
10 seconds, ten years, what?
1419
00:57:53.150 --> 00:57:53.983 line:15%
That I don't know.
1420
00:57:53.983 --> 00:57:55.970
(Deeyah) Statements like these
1421
00:57:55.970 --> 00:57:58.909
have distressed and angered Trinity's group.
1422
00:57:58.909 --> 00:58:00.080
Well, when the president, yeah.
1423
00:58:00.080 --> 00:58:02.680
When the president goes on TV
1424
00:58:02.680 --> 00:58:06.000
and says that you should be punished
1425
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:07.120
for something that you know
1426
00:58:07.120 --> 00:58:08.590
you did out of love for your child,
1427
00:58:08.590 --> 00:58:10.240
but you should be punished
1428
00:58:10.240 --> 00:58:13.050
or that you are just wanting to kill your child,
1429
00:58:13.050 --> 00:58:14.650
or just waited till this,
1430
00:58:14.650 --> 00:58:18.150
till your second trimester to do this.
1431
00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:20.130
To me, it just made me so angry.
1432
00:58:20.130 --> 00:58:21.020
I couldn't,
1433
00:58:21.020 --> 00:58:22.249
how dare you?
1434
00:58:22.249 --> 00:58:23.082
(crosstalk)
1435
00:58:23.082 --> 00:58:24.183
How dare you
1436
00:58:24.183 --> 00:58:25.120
and people are cheering him on,
1437
00:58:25.120 --> 00:58:26.810
like he's saying something that's accurate.
1438
00:58:26.810 --> 00:58:28.200 line:15%
We are so divided.
1439
00:58:28.200 --> 00:58:31.990 line:15%
And there is so much blind hatred right now.
1440
00:58:31.990 --> 00:58:34.420
And there's someone that has given
1441
00:58:34.420 --> 00:58:36.640
all of those people a free pass to do it
1442
00:58:36.640 --> 00:58:38.660
because he does it so much himself
1443
00:58:38.660 --> 00:58:40.313
and seems to feed off of it.
1444
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:51.740
(Deeyah) I head back to Dr. Robinson's clinic
1445
00:58:51.740 --> 00:58:53.320
in Huntsville.
1446
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.080
A high percentage of her patients
1447
00:58:55.080 --> 00:58:57.883
come from the poor rural areas of Alabama.
1448
00:59:04.490 --> 00:59:06.020
Although the war on abortion
1449
00:59:06.020 --> 00:59:09.350
is often spoken about in terms of women's rights,
1450
00:59:09.350 --> 00:59:10.720
what's often ignored
1451
00:59:10.720 --> 00:59:13.853
is the particular impact it can have on women of color.
1452
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.860
Through poverty or lack of access to care,
1453
00:59:17.860 --> 00:59:20.640
a disproportionate number of African American women
1454
00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:21.853
have abortions.
1455
00:59:22.730 --> 00:59:23.893
This is Rebecca.
1456
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.770
I'm here to terminate a pregnancy
1457
00:59:29.770 --> 00:59:32.270
because I'm high risk.
1458
00:59:32.270 --> 00:59:34.250
And I'm really young.
1459
00:59:34.250 --> 00:59:37.810
And I already have a four year old daughter.
1460
00:59:37.810 --> 00:59:40.180
I'm not financially stable enough
1461
00:59:40.180 --> 00:59:42.680
to carry another baby.
1462
00:59:42.680 --> 00:59:45.750
And I'm not even mentally in a place
1463
00:59:45.750 --> 00:59:47.323
to carry another baby.
1464
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.903
This is not a place for my baby boy right now.
1465
00:59:52.175 --> 00:59:53.008
(Deeyah) This world?
1466
00:59:53.008 --> 00:59:54.440
This world, no.
1467
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:56.823
I'm sending my baby back with the angels.
1468
00:59:58.080 --> 01:00:00.343
Not here in this hell on earth.
1469
01:00:05.210 --> 01:00:07.110
(Deeyah) Leshonda is the head nurse.
1470
01:00:08.010 --> 01:00:10.240 line:15%
There's no area that women of color
1471
01:00:10.240 --> 01:00:12.440 line:15%
are gonna be equal to their white counterparts.
1472
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.570
We die at alarmingly higher rates,
1473
01:00:14.570 --> 01:00:17.220
just from natural childbirth.
1474
01:00:17.220 --> 01:00:20.880
So no, women of color don't have the same level of care.
1475
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:22.270
They don't have the same access.
1476
01:00:22.270 --> 01:00:23.410
They don't have the same privilege.
1477
01:00:23.410 --> 01:00:25.460
We don't have the same resources as far,
1478
01:00:25.460 --> 01:00:27.640
as far as if abortion is illegal in Alabama,
1479
01:00:27.640 --> 01:00:30.400
my parents can fly me to Wisconsin to get an abortion.
1480
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.095
Most people don't have that level of care.
1481
01:00:32.095 --> 01:00:33.833
They don't have that level of access.
1482
01:00:35.240 --> 01:00:36.740
You know, I've never been more afraid
1483
01:00:36.740 --> 01:00:39.190
that our rights as women are gonna be taken away.
1484
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.380
Dr. Sanithia Williams works alongside
1485
01:00:43.380 --> 01:00:44.920
Dr. Robinson at the clinic.
1486
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:49.720 line:15%
You are told that somehow it is wrong for you
1487
01:00:49.720 --> 01:00:51.800 line:15%
not to continue your pregnancy,
1488
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:55.780
but you don't have access to housing.
1489
01:00:55.780 --> 01:00:57.990
You don't have access to healthy,
1490
01:00:57.990 --> 01:01:00.160
nutritious, affordable food.
1491
01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:02.370
You don't have access to
1492
01:01:03.450 --> 01:01:06.640
safe living areas for your children to play.
1493
01:01:06.640 --> 01:01:08.490
You're basically told by your government
1494
01:01:08.490 --> 01:01:10.600
that you gotta just figure it out.
1495
01:01:10.600 --> 01:01:11.530
Don't have an abortion,
1496
01:01:11.530 --> 01:01:12.433
but figure it out.
1497
01:01:13.290 --> 01:01:16.340
Racism touches everything in this country.
1498
01:01:16.340 --> 01:01:18.273
We are birthed into it.
1499
01:01:21.330 --> 01:01:22.163
It is,
1500
01:01:24.120 --> 01:01:27.730
it is in everything, right?
1501
01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:30.070
It is in every, you know,
1502
01:01:30.070 --> 01:01:32.143
experience that I've ever had.
1503
01:01:35.070 --> 01:01:35.970
Even though I know that
1504
01:01:35.970 --> 01:01:37.793
we have made a lot of progress.
1505
01:01:38.700 --> 01:01:41.580
You know, racism is still alive and well.
1506
01:01:41.580 --> 01:01:43.320
It's not just us complaining
1507
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:45.720
saying that we are treated differently
1508
01:01:45.720 --> 01:01:47.810
and we don't have access to the same things.
1509
01:01:47.810 --> 01:01:49.590
I see it play out.
1510
01:01:49.590 --> 01:01:51.040
Being a woman of color
1511
01:01:51.040 --> 01:01:52.760
and it's like,
1512
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:55.480
we're not seen, we are not,
1513
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.200
we're not seen as important.
1514
01:01:58.200 --> 01:02:00.120
And I think that's why
1515
01:02:00.120 --> 01:02:01.640
in this whole war
1516
01:02:01.640 --> 01:02:03.967
that women of color have been forgotten.
1517
01:02:08.390 --> 01:02:10.610
Under Donald Trump's term in office,
1518
01:02:10.610 --> 01:02:13.330
a number of Republican states have passed laws
1519
01:02:13.330 --> 01:02:15.403
severely restricting abortion.
1520
01:02:16.260 --> 01:02:20.473
In 2019, Alabama banned it even for rape or incest.
1521
01:02:24.730 --> 01:02:27.510
None of these state laws can come into action
1522
01:02:27.510 --> 01:02:28.880
because they're overruled
1523
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.793
by the landmark Supreme Court decision, Roe versus Wade.
1524
01:02:36.950 --> 01:02:39.800
But just as I finished making this film,
1525
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.630
the nightmare of America's abortion providers
1526
01:02:42.630 --> 01:02:43.483
came true.
1527
01:02:49.113 --> 01:02:50.604
(Crowd) Honor her wish.
1528
01:02:50.604 --> 01:02:51.854
Honor her wish.
1529
01:02:53.753 --> 01:02:56.460
(Deeyah) Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died
1530
01:02:56.460 --> 01:02:58.070
and gave Donald Trump the chance
1531
01:02:58.070 --> 01:03:00.880
to establish a decisive conservative majority
1532
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.253
at the Supreme Court.
1533
01:03:03.260 --> 01:03:06.060
If Roe versus Wade is overturned,
1534
01:03:06.060 --> 01:03:08.410
states such as Alabama may be allowed
1535
01:03:08.410 --> 01:03:11.673
to severely restrict or even ban abortion.
1536
01:03:12.524 --> 01:03:15.350
An American woman's right to choose
1537
01:03:15.350 --> 01:03:17.430
hangs in the balance.
1538
01:03:17.430 --> 01:03:21.150
Trusting patients to know what's best for their lives
1539
01:03:21.150 --> 01:03:23.940
and allowing them to make those decisions.
1540
01:03:23.940 --> 01:03:25.350
When you have people in office
1541
01:03:25.350 --> 01:03:26.420
who don't understand that
1542
01:03:26.420 --> 01:03:28.470
or who don't care about that,
1543
01:03:28.470 --> 01:03:29.800
it's gonna hurt women.
1544
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.820
Jesus says, if you love me, obey my commands.
1545
01:03:33.820 --> 01:03:36.910
His commands are thou shall not murder.
1546
01:03:36.910 --> 01:03:38.730
And they are murdering these babies.
1547
01:03:38.730 --> 01:03:40.690
It's a war on children.
1548
01:03:40.690 --> 01:03:43.720
It's a war on a human being in the womb.
1549
01:03:43.720 --> 01:03:44.553
You know,
1550
01:03:45.750 --> 01:03:47.570
you're kind of taking the lid off
1551
01:03:47.570 --> 01:03:49.050
a really dark
1552
01:03:50.630 --> 01:03:52.750
kind of place in this country.
1553
01:03:52.750 --> 01:03:56.090
This is, I mean, this is the battle.
1554
01:03:56.090 --> 01:03:58.233
The soul of the country, right?
1555
01:03:59.380 --> 01:04:02.030
And maybe we aren't exactly where we thought we were.
1556
01:04:05.060 --> 01:04:07.750
It's such a tragedy that we just,
1557
01:04:07.750 --> 01:04:08.583
we can't just let it be.
1558
01:04:08.583 --> 01:04:10.433
We just have to do all we can.
1559
01:04:11.580 --> 01:04:13.283
I'm 78 years old,
1560
01:04:14.140 --> 01:04:16.110
but I'll take my last breath
1561
01:04:16.110 --> 01:04:17.743
trying to save those babies.
1562
01:04:22.933 --> 01:04:23.790
(Deeyah) Can I, what can I do?
1563
01:04:23.790 --> 01:04:25.950
What do, what do you need?
1564
01:04:25.950 --> 01:04:26.783
Nothing.
1565
01:04:28.170 --> 01:04:30.770
I don't want anything
1566
01:04:30.770 --> 01:04:31.970
but for this to be over.
1567
01:04:35.570 --> 01:04:37.643
I can't carry it a day longer.
1568
01:04:40.897 --> 01:04:41.730
Yeah.
1569
01:04:45.167 --> 01:04:46.000
Okay.
1570
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:50.310
You can do this.
1571
01:04:50.310 --> 01:04:51.473
You all can do this.
1572
01:04:58.336 --> 01:05:01.419
(gentle music plays)
Distributor: Women Make Movies
Length: 65 minutes
Date: 2020
Genre: Expository
Language: English
Grade: 10-12, College, Adults
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