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It's not easy taking it up.

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You all the time send me some pictures.

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Tell everyone I said hi, I love you.
God bless you,

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mamma.
Well, I was just dropping you a line to

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let you know I love you and miss you like crazy.

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Hi my babies.

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Well, I'm back in the prison now.

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Now, so when the Girl Scout brings you a game,
I'll be here.

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I love you.
I missed you so much.

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When people ask where my mom is, I say she's
out of town in Las Vegas.

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Look at me. Has got on to me

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I used to.
I, I say, well.

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I used to drive. Yeah.

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I, I'm walking on this boy.

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Hey, Danny, it's Julia from Girl Scouts.

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We're gonna be there soon.
I'm gonna leave here in about a few minutes.

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I'm Julia Cuba and I'm the troop leader for
Troop 1500 and I'm also a social worker.

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Thank you for calling Girl Scouts for Girls
register.

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Hey, how are you doing?

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Just fine.
How are you doing?

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OK, we're on the way to prison.

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Oh, OK, well have a good day.

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Troop 1500 has about 48 girls registered, but
only about 8 to 10 of those girls come with me

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to the prison once a month to see their moms
who are currently incarcerated.

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And then, yes, is there a warden on duty today?

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Great, thank you very much. Bye-bye.

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Troop 1500 is based in Austin, but about once a
month we drive to the Hilltop Unit in

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Gatesville, Texas, which is about an hour and a
half away.

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Girl Scouts are en route.
We'll get the back gate in 5 minutes.

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Can we get an escort form, please?

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Ma'am, I can't be taking pictures. OK.
Well, we're with the Girl Scouts.

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We're here for a meeting of girls' moms and
that the documentary,

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uh, the.
I went to the Chinese buy love my brother.

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He asked me what my name was, and this is what
I said.

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The moms had these kids and then they sort of
did their selfish things that they did.

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The girls have to cope with the fact that their
moms have left.

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Your mom gives you a sense of self.

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We're not there for that.

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They're getting that from somebody else.

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I don't want to hurt them again, they're so
precious.

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Little girls need moms.

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I thank God that I get to spend some time with
her.

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In the beginning, I was scared because I know my
kids were hurt and I wasn't sure how they would

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react to me, especially coming to prison
to see me.

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I'm pulling up to the, uh, main gate off of
the highway, so I pull up and I'm waiting there.

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You know, and the ones checking other
cars, so the woman,

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she walks up to the car and she says, "Excuse me."
I said,

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Good morning.
I'm with the Girl Scouts.

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And, um, she says, "Girl Scouts?" and I said, yes, the
Girl Scouts. We meet over

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in the schoolhouse and she says, "Girl Scouts at
a prison?"

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Hello. Hello.

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We've come to ask you to help us find a leader
for a Suez's Girl Scout troop.

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Well, tell me about it.
Maybe I can help you.

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I never expected that I would be a Girl Scout
troop leader.

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But because this program was about female
inmates and their daughters,

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I wanted to be a part of it.

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The major goal of Troop 1500 is to strengthen
the bond between mother and daughter in order

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to break the cycle of crime.

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I'm a senior warden at the Hilltop Unit in
Gatesville, Texas.

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I have reservations about the program initially,
I thought,

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well, it was like Girl Scouts gone bad, you
know, it's

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it's, you know what happens when you, when you
don't follow the Girl Scout motto.

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On my own, I will try.
I'm here for what they call, um,

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engaging in organized crime.
I'm here for possession of heroin and a DWI.

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To help people at all times.

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I'm here for possession with intent to deliver
to serve God and my country.

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I was locked up for aggravated assault with a
deadly weapon.

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Whenever possible.
I was a nurse for 18 years and then I

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euthanized one of my patients and to live by
the Girl Scout

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It seemed like the kindest thing to do at the
time, but of course it's against the law.

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And how much time? I say 50 years.

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I have to do 25 before I see parole.

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OK, when you were in here the first night, what
did you think about? Be truthful.

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I felt like dying. I felt like everything was
over.

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It was just over.
I felt hopeless.

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And I felt like just giving up, OK.

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What did you think the first night when you
were in prison?

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Oh,
see, that's a hard question.

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I thought I was the most horrible person on the
face of the earth.

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Everybody ready? Everybody quiet. Action.

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What are you going to do starting from right
now when you get out of jail?

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I'm gonna work and try to finish school.
I'm thinking about going to, um,

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get my cosmetology license.

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So you can do hair and nails and stuff.

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Why are you in prison, um.

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I made bad choices and had drugs in my life.

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So is there something that you're embarrassed
of?

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Well, if somebody asks me where my mom is, I'll
tell them she's in prison,

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but if they ask me why she's in prison, I don't
answer them.

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So how do you feel about your mom being in
prison?

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It hurt.
OK, what changes

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would you like for me to make in myself?

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I don't know.
OK, what's your favorite color?

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Blue.
I thought it was purple.

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In the beginning of Girl Scouts, life skills
was how do you survive in the wilderness?

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And now it's, how do you survive in the
wilderness, in the wilderness of the culture?

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Although the fundamentals of Girl Scouting are
always the same,

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the type of activities vary somewhat due to
local conditions and opportunities near at hand.

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Outdoor activities have always been important
to Girl Scouts,

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but for this troop, the trust hike that we're
doing right now is in some ways much more

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profound because trust has been broken and
we're trying to rebuild it.

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With the trust exercise, the girls head out
into nature and try to function,

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climbing over rocks blindfolded. Jasmine.

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So what do you see?

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A big old hill, exactly.
And what's on that hill?

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Yes, and they're slippery.

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All right, cuties, good luck.

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I think you're doing awesome. OK.

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That trust exercise probably mirrored a lot of
the scary feelings that they have all the time,

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but what was different about that exercise was
that there was someone there who promised them

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that they would walk them through it.

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There you go.
Good, good, good.

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Alice, you did a good job.

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The meetings outside the prison do provide the
girls with an opportunity to create memories

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with their mothers.
This was a snapshot in my life

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where my mom and I really loved each other and
trusted each other, and it was safe.

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Listen to Doctor Grant's definition of a mask.

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A covering worn on the face to conceal one's
identity.

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All right, that's deep, isn't it?

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The metaphor here is the different ways we
conceal our identity from

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each other and other people.

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It seemed wrong from the very beginning because
bringing children into prison is wrong.

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I hope that by them coming to prison in an unreal
setting, they don't get the wrong

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impression of prison—that prison is not a good
place, it's not a nice place, it's not someplace

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that they want to go.

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For years I always wore a mask, tending to be
happy on the outside, but I wasn't happy on the

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inside.
You really don't trust others because you've

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never trusted.
You don't know who you are because you've been

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wearing it for so long.

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That's right.
This is beautiful.

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Day is done.
On the From the lakes,

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from the hills, from the sky.

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All is well.

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I don't think the girls will leave there with a
romanticized idea of prison.

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They have to watch each other being ripped away
from their mothers.

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I don't think that they would want to recreate
that for their own child.

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Jasmine was 5 years old when I got
arrested.

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Jasmine's father opened the door and I was
asleep, and they were like,

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you, Melissa, pause?
I'm like, yes, well, we gotta warn you for your

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rest.
You gotta come with us.

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Jasmine was crying.

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She was crying because she saw me getting
handcuffed.

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She didn't know what was going on.

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And I told her it's okay, it's okay, Mom, don't
you don't need to cry.

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I'll be back in a little while.

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All we lived for was to go out and get high
and.

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Because I didn't want to feel what I was feeling.

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Jasmine's with her father.

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He takes really good care of her.

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He does a lot of things for her; he's been there
since she was born.

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He wasn't a good husband or whatever you want to
call it,

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you know, boyfriend, whatever, but he is a good
father.

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I used to curl it because I didn't really know
how to breathe,

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so I pretty much stay with the same design, but
I might put a plaque,

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two plaques here and one there.
I'll change it up.

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I don't like to—I don't like to stay still.

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Jasmine, what does your dad mean to you?

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He's like a mom and a dad.

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I know that he loves me because he—because he
takes care of me.

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He would get some money to throw me a party
and invite people over.

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Make a wish and blow it out.

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I used to take her out to the prison.

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A couple of times, but I don't really like going
all the time.

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I'll be tired on the weekend.
I don't want to be driving way like that.

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Every time he would come home from work, we
would always argue and fight and I was a real

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violent person when I was using drugs.

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I had put him in the hospital a couple of times,
you know,

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I stabbed him because he tried to hit me though.

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I have like 12 aggravated assault charges, and
this is the one that landed me here in prison.

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Would you like to have a big welcome home party
when you get up?

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No.
Just my kids.

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Will you get one pet when you have a house?

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Yes, when I get out, I'm going to have all kinds of
pets, especially horses for my daughter; she

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loves horses, and I'm going to have a cat and a dog,
but I'm not going to have any pets that go in

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cages.
You know, I used to get tired of the kids saying

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mommy, mommy, mommy; you know, now I'd give anything
to hear them saying mommy.

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I lived what I considered a normal life.

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I was very close to my children.
I have one older and one younger than Naomi,

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who's 12.
I'm constantly reminded of the suffering.

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They're going through because of my wrong
choice.

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I don't know my children anymore.

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Both these men have been in the nursing home
for 13 years.

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For the most part, at first they were okay, but
then just towards the end of the last few

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months, a lot of things happened with strokes
and pneumonia until they couldn't get out

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of bed and couldn't talk, move, or walk.

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I don't know if I caused their death.
I only know that I gave them extra potassium

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because I knew that.

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Extra potassium stops your heart.

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So I never came home again after that, didn't
get to say goodbye to the kids or anything.

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I do not want to spend the rest of my life here.
I don't want to spend one more day here; I don't

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have to.
Sometimes I think

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that your mistakes are kind of becoming a habit.
Do you ever think about that and how I feel?

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I think about it a lot.

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It hurts that I put myself in that position to
where they can't count on me,

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you know.
And I'm not gonna let it get the best of me.

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Guilt and all that.

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I'm just gonna lace up my boots and do what I
have to do.

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If you go back to jail, what you say you're not
going to, then how long will you be in here?

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If I go back to jail again, I might have to do
a life sentence.

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25 years.

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To life sentence.

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Count there.
The count, that means it's count time.

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Right back here is the wood shop where
I'll be working at.

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I also ordered a summer swing to put in
her yard and right now we're in the

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process of doing the chair because she wanted a
chair to go with it also.

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You name it, I've done it except for murder.

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All the rest of it I don't know, but what got
me here is checks,

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you know, but I used to love to rob.

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I used to love to go into stores and shop for
free, you know,

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and, uh.
I used to love to do that.

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And when I started getting worse off, I went to
robbery because it was quicker and, uh.

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You know, I drink fifth Cisco, or fifth Night Train,
you know,

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we hit a rock or two.

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And just tell me, go get it.

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Go get it, you know, and I find my way back
somewhere and set him,

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you know, get him up in the woods or something
like that and hold a gun to him and make him

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get up out of his clothes and I take everything
he's got.

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What would you like to do when you get out of
prison?

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It's all the work that's gonna happen when I get
there.

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I really learned how not to set too many
expectations.

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I wrote a book and I hope to get it published, and I hope to be able to do some
things in my community.

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Uh, in my community.

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And I do my best to be a mother, you know, to
my children as well as a friend to them.

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All right, good. Oh.

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One of my major concerns with the Girl Scout
program here on Hilltop was that I was really

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concerned with the girls themselves. Is
it a good idea for them to have the kind of

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access that they have to their mothers? You know,
they've been disappointed in the past,

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you know, the inmates tend to be all about
what's good for me, uh, the decisions that

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brought them to prison.

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Uh, sacrifice those children in the free
world, and, you know, they didn't think of the

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kids first. They thought about what was good for
them, what they wanted,

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what they needed.
Uh, is being around their mom really such a

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good idea, or is it easier to be hurt once and
break that bond?

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As mothers, you always say you don't want your
kids to be hurt, and what you would do to

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somebody if they hurt your kids, but in the
long run,

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you know, I end up hurting my kids more than
anybody, you know,

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because they trusted me.
I hate that I'm not there, but I thank God I'm

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alive.

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I hope you don't fall.

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The guardians are especially important during
the holidays because the girls and the troop

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are all thinking about family, and especially
for Mkayla and Kaitlin, having grown up together

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and now separated, living with different
grandmothers, their guardians have to play the

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role that sort of keeps them feeling like
they're a part of some kind of family unit.

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Wow.

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When their mother went to prison, they had to
completely rearrange things and split apart and

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live in two different households.

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Mkayla went with her father's mother, and
Kaitlin went with her mother's mother,

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and they had to develop new mother-like
relationships with each grandmother.

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But we're supposed to come up there and ask you
some questions.

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Well, I have to answer.

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What do you like about this house?
What's your best thing about it?

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Oh, my bed.

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It calls me ever so often.
I love it.

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And then plus, I got a little grandbaby.
I love to come there and she loves jumping to

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bed with me every once in a while.
I love her.

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What do you think about your granddaughter
going to Girl Scout?

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Oh, she loves going.

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But I might have to slow it down if she doesn't
get her grades in order 'cause I want her to go

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to the 5th grade.

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What does she think about it?

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Um, she thinks kinda the same.

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So we are going to successfully go to the 5th
grade next year,

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right?
That, that would be good for me.

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That's the best gift you could give me for
years to come.

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OK. Yeah.

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Love you.
She called me last night to say, just checking

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in to make sure you're gonna pick me up
tomorrow.

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I know that you can't reach me, so I found a
phone to call you and I was like,

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Golly, she does that every month now.

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Hey, hey Danny, hey.

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How's it going?
Pretty good.

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How are you doing?
Really good.

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So we think we'll be back probably about
6:30ish, somewhere in that area.

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That'll work out real good.
We're on our way to go pick up Mkayla.

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Oh yeah.
Yeah, and

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Hey, where is she again?
Where's the...

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And

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Jessica, you ready?

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How good to see you.
Hey ladies, how's it going?

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Here's what I see. It's typical of the 4-hour
prison visit.

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The first 15 minutes usually is the honeymoon
phase.

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Oh, your hair is so pretty.

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Oh, who bought you those clothes?
Oh, you dressed so nice.

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Oh yeah, this is achievable.

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Then we move very quickly into the second stage of
the visit.

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That's when they move into the emotional period.
The emotions come to the surface that they've

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been holding on to for the past. You want me to
write it? I gotta start at some point.

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Just like you have to start keeping your word
to me if we're gonna have a relationship.

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I mean, what kind of relationship do we have?

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If you don't want to write, just say, hey, I
don't wanna write.

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I don't feel like writing.
I'm busy doing this and that.

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I could, I could accept that because that's the
truth.

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I didn't say I didn't wanna write.
If it's not important to you and you don't

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wanna do it, then don't come up here saying
you're gonna do it.

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That's what I'm saying.
That's the reason why it's a big deal to me.

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Because it's the only way I can know if you're
right.

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The hard part is putting the responsibility
always on kids to keep their end

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of the deal.
You want them to grow up to be responsible kids.

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But sometimes we get involved in just being
kids.

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It's, it's more to it than just the writing.

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Yeah.
I just want to know where I stand with her. If

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she wants to just go on with her life, you know,
I'd rather she just go on with her life.

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I, I don't have a problem with her
decision for a 12 year old to make.

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That's a tough decision for a 12 year old to
make.

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I write her and then I don't send it.

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It takes time to undo what was done, and were I,
Caitlin, I wouldn't want to write or

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have any contact if this was the tone.

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That I had to take away with.
It doesn't matter that my eyes and I'm right

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here.
Making breakfast, taking you to school.

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Sing your prayers before I tuck you in.

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That's the far you

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With some, I lost my mind.

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How could I just leave?

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Babies left behind.

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If I had the chance to, OK.

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That's the far you

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You don't too

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Soon I'll be with you.

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How come?
I'm coming home.

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I will try to serve God and my country, to be
assisted to Girl Scout and do by Girl Scouts.

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Mom's go one way, the other way.

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You almost cried.

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Oh, it's Scotty
going to the gate.

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It's easy for us to slip into the habit of
letting other people

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be responsible for us, the experience which is
the most valuable.

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Is the experience of doing things.

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So yeah, you're going straight, go straight.

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OK, no, straight.

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He quit is coming towards us.

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We can barely
get

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OK, now we got a pedal. OK. Oh.

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And I, I'm too.

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And I touching the water.

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They will have a good time yet, but they will
share an interest and a mutual responsibility

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in what they will do now and all through the
years of scouting.

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This is the beginning of a way of life, the
construction of a useful person and character.

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That will lead the woman of tomorrow into
tomorrow.

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It's not like that. That's not funny.
I saw a flying spider.

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That's go that way.

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Come on, let's go this way.

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It's a different way.

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My brain shows me that we're supposed to go
that way.

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I think does she.

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Jessica.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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I, Jess,

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when's your mom's birthday?

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I can maybe make her a card.
I can buy her a card.

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It's way up.
I get $10 at the end of this month, so I can buy

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your mom a card.
She's pretty nice.

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I'm glad her knee is well.

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The moms grew up the same way the girls are
growing up.

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The girls are gonna be those same people
without some kind of intervention.

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Troop 1500 is the intervention for the girls.

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So what are we, Brownies?

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Girl Scouts.

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Let's try this one because you're the tiniest
of the whole group.

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I think that's how come it took so long to get
uniforms.

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Well, because most of the girls usually don't
want them.

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I say we wear them in front of the other girls
and see what happens.

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Michaela, would you wear it to see your mom?
I would.

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There it is.
I think we would get one right there.

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Well, there are a lot of things that you have
to do to work towards one back,

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so I'm gonna look and see, you know what you
guys would get immediately?

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One of those.
What does that look like to you across

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generations?
You know what that means? Being friends it means

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like your mom is the next generation up, so you
guys have worked on relationships with, actually

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we're the next generation.

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You are, so you guys will get this badge
immediately. Business since we do camera,

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everybody will get that one.

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Sorry.
You're gonna get a 150.

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These girls have to be very strong because, as
hard as it is for them when their mothers are

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in jail, it's almost even harder when their
moms are out of jail because it's such a scary

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time, and Troop 1500 is there to support them in
both phases of their lives when mom is in and

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when mom is out.

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Alberta kind of got mixed up in what seems to
be a mistake.

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She received money and she used it for a lot of
junk food,

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which we know Alberta is a fan of.

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Hi, how are you?

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All right, time's good to see you.
Well, what I did was I called the prison and I

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got exact answers to the questions, some of the
questions you had asked.

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The prison has detected that Alberta was less
than honest about asking for money.

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A volunteer agreed to give her funds to buy a
typewriter.

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A radio, lamp things that would help her fulfill
her manuscript. Right? The prison, uh, went

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through and did a whole, um, investigation on
Alberta's books, and what they determined, um, at

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a hearing was that Alberta was guilty of
extorting volunteers through, um,

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deception and.

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They think that she used all the money for
candy.

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This particular incidence has now, um, brought
her down to what they call line one,

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so she will now be out there an extra 2 years,
2 years.

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Yes, like she went and killed somebody or
robbed somebody.

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I don't think the warden sees that she's gonna
ever get better.

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And that's not, you know, her place to decide.
It's Alberta's place to decide, but, you know, she

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does. She thinks this program gives Alberta a
little too much, I think.

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And maybe she's right.
I don't know, but what I do know is that we see

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some moms come out of this program and do well,
and that we see relationships between moms and

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daughters get better. The warden feels that the
inmates are

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manipulative.
To be honest with you, and that's my mom.

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I've been on it for

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all my life, and I know how she is. She's the
sweetest person and will help you out,

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everything like that, but I also know that
she's very selfish,

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so I just don't get my hopes up anymore.

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I think that's what you can say.

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Um, our program is hanging, you know, by nails
waiting to find out if you guys are gonna make

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it or not out there, um, in the hope that we're
gonna help the moms,

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so we're here for the girls, but ultimately, you
know, ultimately it's to see your family

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succeed, and we've got four girls banking on what's
gonna happen with you.

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That's scary, and
we are not gonna change, so don't think that if

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you begin to need help that we're gonna be, you
know, embarrassed for you or angry with you. It's

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not that at all.

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I want you to do well.
I really want you to make it. It's really

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important to me.
And we want you to see how your kids are doing.

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So that you can say, oh my God, you know, uh,
Jessica is doing things that I remember doing

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at that age, and I'm afraid for her, and I want to
make sure that we start to do something about

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it now. You know, your input helps us. You
have some more ladies fixing to come into the

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program, okay, so I'm not gonna be the only one
by myself.

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Right.

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I've been locked up so many years, I don't know
how to work one of these things.

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Thank you, doctor.
There's me right there when I was a cheerleader.

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Oh, that was me graduating from eighth grade.
Don't look at that mini skirt I'm wearing.

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You're not allowed to wear dresses that short.

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I was valedictorian, so I was giving a little
speech.

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I guess I'm trying to get you to say something
for the camera.

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'Cause you didn't talk much.

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You could talk. I think I'm saying my
name now here.

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Uh, it's not here.

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Okay. Do you still have that swing set, or can you

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remember?
Um, we still have it, that same one.

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We probably don't have those little swings in
there, yeah,

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We do.
We have little swings like that.

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Those, yeah, I still have them.

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What I actually take in is $1.18 an hour.

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This doesn't sound like much, but when you're
getting nothing,

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$1.18 is quite a bit.

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I get 20% of my income, and 20% automatically
goes to my children.

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I didn't meet the criteria because of my crime.
Murder was not allowed at that time in the

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beginning, but eventually, they couldn't seem to
get enough people, I guess, that met the criteria.

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So, they lowered it a little bit.

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To where I could fit in, so.

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I'm Jessica's second-grade teacher.

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I sometimes feel like a surrogate mom to
Jessica just because she'll come in and she

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just wants that hug in the morning.

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She just wants someone here to see her grow
up, count your squares.

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Like car. Loud.

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I don't know what her home life is like.
I don't know what she goes to at the end of the

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day.
Who sits down with her and reads.

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I worry that kids like Jessica
will slip through the cracks.

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I mean, there's no one watching, there's no one
home to take care of this kid.

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Dad doing?
We have the shocks.

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I'm 40 years old, but I actually passed my GED
before my 40th birthday.

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Jessica's very excited, and I think this really
helped her.

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She's been having a hard time in school.

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And that's why we did it.

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But I don't want to cry. I wore makeup for the first
time in 15 years.

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I don't want to cry.
It's a pretty big deal for her.

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This is a GED, which is big for her.
It's a step anyway, and she's

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really excited.
Jessica is really excited too.

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Danny's my husband.

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Jessica's dad, as far as she knows, is the
only dad she's ever known.

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We got married because of Jessica.

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That's why we're married, because of Jessica.

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Thank you, Lord, for the family members who
are here to support their loved ones today.

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In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.

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Mary Ann M. Shaniquare.

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So, and Renee Witkowski.

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So I, I.

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Hey, you look so pretty.
How do you feel getting to come and see

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mama's graduation and being here, and
getting to come and be with me on the

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visits with the Girl Scouts and stuff? It's
pretty neat,

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huh?
We do a lot of really neat stuff; please get

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back in here.
They're gonna make me go there, I'm sure I'm

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like.
You know, maybe that's what it is, just count,

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but I think it's just count.
I think I'll get to come back.

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Yeah. Grab your sweater,

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Jess.
Come on.

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You're breaking.

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Uh

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Me and my mom wrote this poem about a Harley
Davidson.

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I am a Harley Davidson.
I am a Harley Davidson with a side,

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a large pink and blue machine, machine fast and
grace, racing through the wind,

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covering over many miles.

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Riding by an ocean sunset, I am a Harley
Davidson.

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What is your fear?

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My fear is.

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Of failing again, not being a mother that needs
to be to you guys.

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She’s starting to cry.

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I'm not.
When do you get out?

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August 5th?
What time?

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What time?
Um, probably early in the morning.

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I just, I don't know exactly what time.

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What do you eat in here?

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A lot of ramen soups with cheese.

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Uh, now they got new chips.

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They got these bacon cheddar chips that are
really good.

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And we make baked potatoes out of them.

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But they’re not really baked potatoes, but
you take the chips.

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You asked me a question.
Let me answer it, Mom.

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I need to go to the restroom.

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I need to go very bad.

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Can you just hold on just another minute?

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OK, um, go to California.

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All I have is time: 100 weeks left after
tomorrow.

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OK, let's see.

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Are you embarrassed that I'm in prison?

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No, you ask me, are you mad at me?

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I'll ask you that in a minute.

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Jessica, come on, baby, can you just go put
your legs together?

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Thank you.
But you like you have on a dress.

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What do you want to be when you grow up?

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Don't know that, Kissa Rossera.

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Have you learned any tricks on your new bike?

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Yeah, falling off.

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Yeah, I'll be a good one.
That's not act retarded.

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OK.
All right, sit still.

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A normal, if it's possible.

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Where are you going?
I'm done.

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Oh, OK.

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Why did you start doing drugs again after
already spending time in jail?

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I didn't do drugs.
I was selling drugs.

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I couldn't get along with your grandma, and I
wanted to have a place for y'all to go to

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with me, so that's how it started.

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Were you, uh, around drugs when you were little?

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Yes, with who?

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My mother, when I was 12.

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Uncle Maxi and, um, my mother started doing crack.

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I didn't even know grandma did that.
Well, she's been clean for about 16 years,

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but this one night she just didn't come home.

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We didn't know.
If she was alive or dead.

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To this day I still have issues with, like, I
feel like she doesn't love me, and I don't want

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y'all to feel like that, and I know everything I
did was not because of you guys, it was because

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I wanted things, and I went about it the wrong
way.

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When you get out of jail, do you think you'll
be better?

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You'll get better.
I think I will. I don't want to just try to rush

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and do anything, and I don't want to promise this
and promise that.

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I just want to show you, it's just however
it's gonna go is just how it's gonna go.

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Hi Mike.
How you doing?

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Let me show you the jobs.

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We are at my house.

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We are packing. Well, our movers are packing so
we can move.

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We're moving.
I've taken a job in, uh, Colorado and so the

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family has agreed to come with me, and this is
moving day. We're packing up and, uh, loading up a

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big moving van and heading out to Colorado.

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I was 16 when Kenya was born.

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I did the best I could to be her mother, but I
was, yeah,

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I was a kid, really.

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I was partying with my brother and this crack
was introduced; I thought it was cool,

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but it got to be a little bit too serious for me.

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And I was able to pull away, fortunately, because
my brother wasn't. She saw what drugs had done

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to her uncles, my brothers, and for her to
choose to inflict that upon other people was

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just kind of the last straw for me.

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I guess at some point I decided that I needed
to do what I could for her kids.

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For Caitlin in particular, because she's the
oldest and she saw so much of that and her

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mother took her on the drug deals and that kind
of thing and.

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She's my bigger concern.

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I'm gonna miss the Girl Scout troop.

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And I'm gonna miss the girls in it, the
activities that we do in the Girl Scout troop.

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And, um, going to see my mom.

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I get up at 3:30 in the morning, go eat at 4.

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When we come in the morning, Mr.
Chesting tells us what we're gonna do this

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Sometimes I work like 14 to 15 hour days.

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I can do farm work.

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I do word processing, desktop publishing.
I have a lot of skills.

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I have no excuse to mess up again, you know.

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Have like 15 months on the 5 year sentence,
which is enough time if they decide to go ahead

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and let me go.

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Oh, we're gonna do.

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Is we're gonna look.

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For jobs that really match your skills, and then
we're gonna call them and we're gonna say,

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would you be willing to give her a shot even
though of the felony.

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It's hard to work when you're used to making a
lot of money, like you do selling drugs.

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It's hard to work for a week and make $280 when
you're used to making it

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in a couple minutes.

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I don't know how to feel about this July 12th
date.

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I'm too scared to say I feel good about it
because I don't wanna get excited and I don't

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want you to get excited, but I also wanna be
hopeful and optimistic,

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and I, I feel like it was a good shot.

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The state for me is a life sentence.

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Respect, it's a life sentence.
If I come to prison again,

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they can give me a life sentence because I've
been caught with big quantities.

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I'll get you on Channel 4 and the big fat lady
on Channel 80.

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Today is Michaela's 10th birthday party and we
brought all the girls who are kind of in

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the same age range to celebrate with her.

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Jasmine and Makayla, we're doing a lot of work
with them just to kind of prepare them because

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their moms are both about to be released and on
parole.

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We've been talking with the moms and the girls,
and nobody's really certain what's gonna happen.

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The girls have their hopes up really high.

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So we're scared.

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Very scared.

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Hi, Diane.

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How are you doing?

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You know, you just have to be prepared for
whatever.

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Things happen for a reason.

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Mom's not quite ready for the situation that
everybody thinks she is.

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She's not, we know. We, we worry about her.

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And this time we know we've got a year now, so
we can really, really make sure she's got the

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support that she needs. She's got a good plan.
She didn't have a solid plan. We were worried

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about that, so now she will. But were you
planning on letting Makayla go and live with her?

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Uh, yeah, yeah. You're OK with that?
I, I had already told Makayla.

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You know, once her mom gets situated
and everything,

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she could go live with her mom.

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Diane, you know, we've been substitutes, OK,
but it's got,

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they've got to have a real thing, just, just, just
to go through life.

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They're gonna need her.
You haven't had to go through it.

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I haven't had
to go through it, but we can imagine how they feel.

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You know, so we just have to kind of go along,
put our feelings and their feelings

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and, you know, we just keep going on.

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And so they, they're gonna be all right though.

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Well, I hope that you'll call if you could
think of anything that

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you know, specifically we can do.

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You just kind of put your mind in their mind
and then you can almost say,

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well, hey, I know what I've got to do, right.

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Will you come sit down and just talk with me
for a minute?

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Those people, they talked to your mom and they
looked at everything.

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And they, they made the decision that they need
to wait another year.

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Does that make sense?
You were thinking you were gonna live with her.

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That does change your plans quite a bit.

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That would have been the exact date.

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That's how it worked before.

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She was able to tell you exactly, and that's
when she was coming home.

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I think part of the reason is because she's
gone now a couple of times to prison, and they,

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they look at that a lot more carefully now.

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Yeah, there were different prisons, but pretty
much the same people make the same decisions.

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Any thoughts, baby girl? Mm.

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Okay.

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11.

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Noodles and cucumbers and banana peppers from
the soup.

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First, we're gonna talk real quick, and uh
what we're gonna talk about is two things that

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are going on.
One is that we're very, very sorry that Kenya

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is not out, um, and as a group, I think we should
express our grief about that for

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you. Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm very sorry about that.
Oh my, oh,

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you're gonna stay with me.

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And then the other piece is that Melissa will not be with us next month, and we
know this for a fact.

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So she will not be here.

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So she will not be here.

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We're very excited that you're getting out, and
it's been a while since we had a mom get out.

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And we really want this to go as well as could
be expected, and I know Jasmine wants that. We're

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gonna do one thing, and that is we're gonna
stand in two lines facing each other, and you're

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gonna fall back into our hands without looking.
Right, ready?

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Ready.
Oh, let's go.

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So good.
I, I... Gods.

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Is she coughing?

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In the great expansion of scouting throughout
the country,

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girls from every type of American family find a
set of values which serves them all.

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On my honor, I will try to do my duty to God
and my country.

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It was in the year 1912 that Juliet Lowe
founded the first Girl Scout troop in Savannah,

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Georgia.
Since that time, the movement has grown in

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membership to more than 1.25 million.

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So we are on our way to Girl Scout camp right
now, and everybody is so excited.

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So I need you to sign this card, and what it
tells us is that you're gonna be on your best

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behavior this week unless you're gonna be the
best camper that you can be and abide by the

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promise and the Girl Scout law.

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It says that you'll do your best to be, and then
you're gonna be a sister to every Girl Scout.

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He needs a close-up. Hello.

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I'll ask you soon.
And we all go to the same school.

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So what to do with the bees.

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You know, I wanted to play Mafia, but we don't
have that many people.

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What's Mafia?
Mafia is an ace and a jack, and the police is a

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king, and then they're gonna say, 'Town, you had
two killings last night.'

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And then they're gonna point to the two people,
then you're out.

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Okay, so it's a card game, right? Yeah.
Oh, I get it.

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I'm sorry.
I was like, I didn't get it, but now I get it.

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That's good. Oh.

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That's mine.
Give it back.

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No money.

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Today is the last day and I don't want to have to
deal with any attitude,

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any back talking. Okay.

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Have fun.
Go find a table.

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Thank you, girl.

01:00:07.540 --> 01:00:08.540
It's

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Yes, okay, I'm Walter Davidson.
I'm Pastor of Corell Community Church here in

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Gatesville.
I represent, uh, Welcome Home First Contact

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Ministry, and what this is to help you get
reestablished when you get out and get into the

01:00:30.820 --> 01:00:33.939
free world, and, uh, it's a good day, isn't it?

01:00:34.629 --> 01:00:37.379
Yes, you know, this is Victory Day, you're free.

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When the moms get out, it's always terrifying
to wait and see what is going to happen next.

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We've had moms immediately start doing crack within
an hour after getting out.

01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:11.479
And we've had moms work hard and go directly
home and really fight the difficult

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pressures that they face there, and they make it.

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And I think back, and I think

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Uh, I guess I put my mom through it at home, and
she still has hope that I do the right thing

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when I come home.
And it scares me even now

01:01:37.219 --> 01:01:41.379
that when I leave here, that I'll do the same
thing again, and I don't want to.

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Sure.
Some of the girls whose moms are out now get

01:02:05.830 --> 01:02:10.320
teary remembering what it was like to
be able to talk to mom in the prison, and they

01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.500
wish they could sort of replicate that, and it's
not that they would ever want you guys back

01:02:13.500 --> 01:02:16.780
there, but it's sort of that they want that same
support that they were getting,

01:02:16.949 --> 01:02:20.110
Yeah, so you really don't feel like there's a shift in
that reality at all.

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This is totally normal, well, you know, when I first

01:02:22.824 --> 01:02:27.504
like the night before I was going to get
out, I was like, I can't actually believe I'm

01:02:27.504 --> 01:02:30.274
going home.
I couldn't actually believe it was happening.

01:02:30.504 --> 01:02:32.425
You know,
I thought, oh, something's going to come up and

01:02:32.425 --> 01:02:35.774
I'm not going to be able to leave, and you know you
get that fear.

01:02:35.945 --> 01:02:39.425
But I know I did all my time and they
can't hold me here longer.

01:02:39.435 --> 01:02:42.094
But they're going to find something to keep me
here, you know.

01:02:43.070 --> 01:02:47.330
You know, and that was the only fear that I had
and until I actually walked out that gate I

01:02:47.330 --> 01:02:49.159
couldn't actually believe that I was finally
coming home.

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By that, it made me look at this stuff.

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Right there.
Just keep going on.

01:03:04.110 --> 01:03:05.969
Just keep going on.

01:03:06.709 --> 01:03:08.419
Just keep going on.

01:03:09.229 --> 01:03:10.929
Just keep going on.

01:03:11.270 --> 01:03:16.419
I take every knock as a boost and every
stumbling block as a stepping stone.

01:03:16.429 --> 01:03:20.899
Lift up your head and hold it on.
Just keep going on.

01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.520
Just keep going on.

01:03:24.370 --> 01:03:26.010
Just keep going on.

01:03:29.409 --> 01:03:31.239
Just keep going on.

01:03:31.449 --> 01:03:36.520
I take every knock as a boost and every stumbling
block as a stepping stone.

01:03:36.530 --> 01:03:38.929
Lift up your head and hold your arm.

01:03:39.500 --> 01:03:41.040
Just keep going on.

01:03:41.540 --> 01:03:48.100
I say to every young woman, young man, you get

01:03:48.100 --> 01:03:49.270
discouraged.

01:03:49.500 --> 01:03:51.889
Don't stop and wring your hands.

01:03:52.219 --> 01:03:57.350
Your privilege cannot be taken.
Your rights cannot be banned.

01:03:57.580 --> 01:04:02.709
If someone like me can make it, I know you can.

01:04:03.270 --> 01:04:07.530
Just keep going on.
Just keep going on.

01:04:08.030 --> 01:04:09.739
You just keep going on.

01:04:10.850 --> 01:04:17.429
Just keep going along and take every knock as a
boost and every stumbling knock as a stepping

01:04:17.429 --> 01:04:22.300
stone. Lift up your head, hold your arm, just keep
going on.

01:04:22.330 --> 01:04:24.899
I see.
Just keep going on.

01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:32.330
And just, I just keep going on.

01:04:32.899 --> 01:04:37.399
I take every knock as a boost and every
stumbling knock as a stepping

01:04:37.399 --> 01:04:42.139
stone. Hold up your head and just keep going on.

01:05:02.909 --> 01:05:04.530
I just keep going on.

01:05:08.100 --> 01:05:14.340
Just keep going.
Take every knock as a

01:05:14.340 --> 01:05:17.610
Take every knock as a boost and every
stumbling block as a stepping stone.

01:05:20.530 --> 01:05:21.719
Just keep going on.

01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:24.510
And just keep going on.

01:05:25.510 --> 01:05:26.989
Just keep going on.

01:05:28.659 --> 01:05:35.350
Going on, just take every knock as a boost and
every

01:05:35.350 --> 01:05:39.919
stumbling block as a stepping stone up.

01:06:02.959 --> 01:06:04.510
Just keep going on.