Rocky Road to Dublin

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ROCKY ROAD TO DUBLIN is a provocative and revealing portrait of Ireland in the Sixties, a society characterized by a stultifying educational system, a morally repressive and politically reactionary clergy, a myopic cultural nationalism, and a government which seemingly knew no boundary between church and state. Now available in a newly-restored version prepared by The Irish Film Institute, this controversial film can at last be reassessed after a nearly forty-year period of neglect. (The Making of Rocky Road to Dublin is also available, as a separate title, or purchase both for one price. See below.)

Encouraged by the controversy he had stirred with a series of newspaper articles and inspired by French 'New Wave' filmmakers of the era, Dublin-born Peter Lennon, who had lived and worked in Paris as a journalist for a decade, decided to revisit his native country in 1967 to make a film assessing the state of the nation.

Amidst scenes of everyday Irish life -- on the streets, in the classroom, at pubs, sporting events, dance halls, and a lively discussion amongst Trinity College students -- ROCKY ROAD TO DUBLIN blends interviews with writers Sean O'Faolain and Conor Cruise O'Brien, a spokesman for the Gaelic Athletic Association, theater producer Jim Fitzgerald, a member of the censorship board, an editor of The Irish Times, film director John Huston, and a young Catholic priest, Father Michael Cleary.

Featuring the inspired photography of legendary French cinematographer Raoul Coutard, and an incisive, literate voice-over commentary by Lennon, ROCKY ROAD TO DUBLIN captures an Ireland on the cusp of enormous social changes but still mired in a regressive, semi-theocratic mentality that would later erupt in repeated church scandals. In a striking example of the film's unwitting prescience, one of its most colorful figures-Father Cleary, "Ireland's singing priest"-was later revealed to have fathered two children with his 17-year-old housekeeper.

Although the stereotypical image of Ireland as a cultural backwater seems to bear little relation to the country's reputation today, a culturally vibrant and economically vigorous "Celtic Tiger," it is in such moments that ROCKY ROAD TO DUBLIN, as a historical film, illustrates not only how far Ireland has come but also how little it has changed.

"[ROCKY ROAD TO DUBLIN] is not only a precursor to The Troubles in Northern Ireland but to all the troubles that would come with the counterculture of the later 1960s, Vietnam and Watergate in the 1970s, Iran-Contra in the 1980s, and the culture wars (and real wars) of the 1990s and early 21st century."—Anthropology Review Database

"Magnificent! One of the most beautiful documentaries the cinema has given us."—Cahiers du Cinéma

"[A] most interesting and significant film event. Blisteringly critical…affectionate and fair-minded… beautifully photographed… by Coutard... with a lean, eloquent commentary."—The Observer

"Sparks lively discussion of the once-antithetical concepts of Ireland and progress."—Leonardo Digital Reviews

"★★★★ [4 out of 5 stars!] Glows with idealism: a brilliant, affectionate, exasperated portrait of his native land, in thrall to reactionary politics and a repressive church, decades after throwing off the English yoke. Almost 40 years on… [it] still has a blazing raw energy, coupled with shrewd insight."—The Guardian

"Sharp and mercilessly effective…"—Channel 4 International

"★★★★☆ [4 out of 5 stars!] Critic's Choice!"—Time Out

"Politically intelligent and formally innovative… not just historical, it is a contemporary film."—Fortnight (Belfast)

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Main credits

Lennon, Peter (filmmaker)
Lennon, Peter (commentator)
Herbert, Victor (film producer)

Other credits

Photography, Raoul Coutard, Georges Liron; editing, Lila Biro, Philippe Delesalle, Guy Delooz; background music, The Dubliners with Luke Kelly.

MARC Record See Worldcat record

Keywords

Paul Duane; Peter Lennon; Raoul Coutard; 1968 Cannes Film Festival; May '68; student groups; Jean-Luc Godard; Francois Truffaut; Irish Film Institute; film; video; dvd; documentary; new wave; Ireland; Sixties; 1960s; reactionary clergy; church and state; French 'New Wave'; Irish life; Pubs; Trinity College ; Sean O'Faolain; Conor Cruise O'Brien,; Gaelic Athletic Association; Jim Fitzgerald; The Irish Times; John Huston; Catholic; Father Michael Cleary; French cinematographer; Raoul Coutard ; 'Celtic Tiger'; "Rocky Road to Dublin"; Icarus Films; "Rocky Road to Dublin"; Icarus Films,doc,art,clad; politics; religion

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Because of Adam\'s sin, we are
born without sanctifying grace.

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Our intellect is darkened,
our will is weakened,

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and our passions
incline us to evil,

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and we are subject to
suffering and death.

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[MUSIC - DUBLINERS, \"ROCKY ROAD
TO DUBLIN\"]

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(SINGING) While in the merry
month of May from me home

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I started, left the girls of
Tuam nearly brokenhearted,

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saluted father dear,
kissed me darling mother,

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drank a pint of beer, me grief
and tears to smother, then off

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to reap the corn and
leave where I was born,

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cut a stout black thorn to
banish ghosts and goblins.

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A brand new pair of brogues
to rattle over the bogs

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and fright\'ning all the dogs
on the rocky road to Dublin.

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

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Hunt the hare and turn
her down the rocky road

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all the way to Dublin.

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Whack follol de dah.

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In Mullingar that night
I rested limbs so weary.

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Started by daylight next
morning light and airy.

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Took a drop of the pure to
keep me heart from shrinking.

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That\'s the Paddy\'s cure
whene\'er he\'s up for drinking.

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They hear the lasses smile,
laughing all the while at me

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curious style.

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T\'would set your
heart a\'bubbling.

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They asked me, was
I hired, and wages

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I required, till I was almost
tired on the rocky road

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to Dublin.

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

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Hunt the hare and turn
her down the rocky road

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all the way to Dublin.

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Whack follol de dah.

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In Dublin next arrived.

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[MUSIC AND SINGING FADE]

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[DEEP HORN HOOTING]

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This is a personal attempt
to reconstruct with a camera

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the plight of an
island community

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which survived more than 700
years of English occupation,

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and then nearly sank under
the weight of its own heroes

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and clergy.

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More than half a century
ago, at Easter 1916,

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the Irish made yet
another attempt

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in a centuries\' long
history of insurrection

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to break free of England.

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A rebellion led by
poets and socialists,

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it was one of the first
attempts by a small nation

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to throw off a colonial
power by force.

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It was also the ambition
of these idealists

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to awaken a lethargic and
indifferent Irish population

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to an ideal of freedom.

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But what came out
of that rebellion?

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The poets and socialists
were executed.

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Finally, after a long
struggle in 1922,

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Ireland won
independence of a sort.

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The treaty with England which
left a piece of the country

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still under British
domination in the North

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was not everybody\'s idea of
an honorable independence.

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The new free state had still
to live through a civil war.

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Then, 10 years later,
led by Eamon de Valera,

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the Republicans who had
been opposed to the treaty

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came to power, a
power they have held

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almost without
interruption to this day.

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The question now was, what do
you do with your revolution

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once you\'ve got it?

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It was the hope of the
revolutionary generation

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that Ireland would
finally develop

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a republican form of society.

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The kind of society
that actually grew up

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was a society of what I
call urbanized peasants.

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They were a society which
was without moral courage,

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constantly observing a
self-interested silence, never

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speaking in moments of crisis,
and in constant alliance

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with a completely obscurantist,
repressive, regressive,

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and uncultivated church.

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The result of all this
was that \'32, like \'22,

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simply spawned a society
utterly alien to the ideas

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of republicanism, and none of
us could be satisfied with it.

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It went on, and it
has gone on almost

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to this day, a society in which
there are blatant inequalities,

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and in which the whole
spirit of \'16 has been lost.

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I often feel that if
those 16 dead men of 1916,

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before the bullets
crashed into them,

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and before the rope
tightened on the neck,

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had they seen the kind of
Ireland that would come out

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of the sacrifice,
they would have

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felt only that their
efforts had been betrayed

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and that their sacrifice
had been in vain.

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One is under no illusions-- the
republic is not going to come.

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Slowly, it will be the creation
of a whole generation, perhaps

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two generations, of younger
men who will have the courage

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to speak and who won\'t be
afraid of those sanctions that

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are continually imposed
on them if they do so.

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This was the society we who
were born in the \'30s inherited.

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We were told that we were
the sons and daughters

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of revolutionary heroes,
and that our role now

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was to be one of gratitude--
well-behaved gratitude.

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To criticize the society our old
guerrilla fighters had built up

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was to be a traitor.

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We were to keep quiet, and
they, like jolly but tough

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old uncles, would
take care of us.

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What they expected from us now
was a new kind of heroism--

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heroic obedience.

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In the \'40s, while Europe
was tearing itself to pieces,

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Ireland, neutral,
drifted even further

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from the reality of
the outside world.

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We weren\'t even allowed
to call it a war--

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officially, it was
\"the emergency.\"

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For us, a tranquil
and serene emergency.

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[TRAFFIC RUSHING]

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The \'50s brought a deepening
depression-- unemployment,

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emigration, an oppressive
sense of frustration.

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We weren\'t encouraged
to look too closely

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into what had gone wrong.

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Whatever had been poetic about
our New Republic had faded,

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and there was no longer
a trace of socialism.

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[HORNS BEEPING]

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[MUTED CHATTER, TRAFFIC
RUMBLING]

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We lived in the shabby
afterglow of heroic days

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that had long since
faded, but there was still

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a nostalgia for some of
the genteel refinements

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of the old days.

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[BRASS BAND MUSIC]

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[MUSIC ENDS]

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[MUTED CHATTER, PLAYFUL CLAMOR]

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[CHILDREN LAUGHING]

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[CROWD CHATTERING]

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The Royal Dublin Society
annual horse show.

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The remnants of a 19th-century
rural aristocratic society,

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the Anglo-Irish
landed gentry, who

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once used Ireland
as a playground

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for their expensive pastimes.

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They dominated the land from
the height of their country

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estates, and we waited on
them at horse and hounds.

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It wasn\'t only under
the Republicans

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that we learned
that, to survive,

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you must at least show
outward respect for authority.

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It\'s a training that
goes back for centuries.

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We also learned to be
devious, and to use our charm

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with cunning.

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The horse show is still
dominated by the Anglo-Irish,

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but it has become
heavily infiltrated

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with the Irish middle class,
with politicians and publicans.

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But it remains a
haven of tranquility,

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a prosperity
expressed gracefully.

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[CROWDS CHATTERING]

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[BELL RINGS]

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[MAN SHOUTING]

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[WOOD CLANKS, CROWD GASPS]

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[CROWD GASPS]

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[MAN SHOUTS]

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[CROWD CHEERS AND APPLAUDS]

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[MUSIC - THE CHIEFTAINS, \"LOVE
IS TEASIN\'\"]

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(SINGING) I wish I
were a maid again.

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But a maid again I ne\'er
will be till a cherry

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grows on an ivy tree.

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[ENGINE BUZZES, HOOVES CLATTER]

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The Georgian facades
that gave Dublin

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an elegance which saved
it from being just

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another provincial town
are being eaten into,

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and people are afraid of
what the future might hold.

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[MUSIC - DUBLINERS, \"WILL YOU
COME TO THE BOWER\"]

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(SINGING) Will you
come and awake our dear

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land from its slumber, and
her fetters we will break,

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links that long have encumbered.

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And the air will resound
with hosannas to greet you.

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On the shore will be found
gallant Irishmen to meet you.

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Will you come?

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Will you, will you,
will you come to--

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There\'s the old problem of
what to do with your revolution

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once you\'ve got it.

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Perhaps you always have to sink
into another kind of bondage.

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Well, I think the
point about Ireland

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is that it\'s a rather
special small country

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in that many millions of
people in the United States--

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and very large numbers of people
also in Britain, Australia, New

00:11:14.250 --> 00:11:15.330 align:middle line:90%
Zealand--

00:11:15.330 --> 00:11:17.550 align:middle line:90%
come from here.

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So that if Ireland
takes a given position,

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and if the position
means something,

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there will be
attentive ears to that.

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And I think Ireland
did, and from 1957

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on to about 1961, the Irish
delegation with the United

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Nations under Frank
Aiken, did play

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a useful part for the relaxation
of international tensions.

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All this, of course, is
within the limits of what

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a very small country can do.

00:11:49.260 --> 00:11:51.540 align:middle line:84%
Well, an Irish foreign
minister, by taking a stand

00:11:51.540 --> 00:11:53.850 align:middle line:84%
detached from the
Cold War, and aimed

00:11:53.850 --> 00:11:56.260 align:middle line:84%
in that particular direction--
if you see what I mean?

00:11:56.260 --> 00:11:58.200 align:middle line:84%
He helped to cool
it, as we would now

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say, inside the
United States itself.

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Because since 1961, Ireland
has, in fact, aligned its policy

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with that of the United States.

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Ireland goes along on
all important matters

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with the United States.

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This, to my mind, is both
regrettable and unnecessary

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in that Ireland is not under
any real form of pressure

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from the United States.

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We are not trying to
borrow money from them,

00:12:24.850 --> 00:12:27.270 align:middle line:84%
we are not dependent
on their aid,

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we don\'t belong to
their military bloc.

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We could take a line
every bit as independent

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as that of Sweden.

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There was also, of course, a
special phenomenon at a given

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time which helped to form this,
and that was a certain kind

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of clerical pressure.

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In 1957, when Ireland,
for the first time,

00:12:48.810 --> 00:12:51.540 align:middle line:84%
voted against the United
States on the question

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of the representation of China.

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I won\'t go into the
technical details of that--

00:12:55.580 --> 00:12:57.240 align:middle line:90%
it\'s a very technical matter--

00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:59.730 align:middle line:84%
but Ireland [? did ?]
[? that, ?] and at that time,

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the Republican government--
the Eisenhower government--

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called out Cardinal
Spellman to the rescue,

00:13:05.580 --> 00:13:08.940 align:middle line:84%
to put the heat on Mr.
Aiken and his government.

00:13:08.940 --> 00:13:11.460 align:middle line:84%
Cardinal Spellman used
his diocesan press

00:13:11.460 --> 00:13:14.980 align:middle line:84%
to denounce Ireland for
going red and so on,

00:13:14.980 --> 00:13:17.850 align:middle line:84%
and this was played
back by the sections

00:13:17.850 --> 00:13:20.070 align:middle line:84%
of the Catholic hierarchy
in this country,

00:13:20.070 --> 00:13:22.155 align:middle line:84%
and the government at
that stage took fright--

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that\'s what it amounted to.

00:13:23.280 --> 00:13:26.100 align:middle line:90%
This is way back in \'57.

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And in effect,
they\'re still running

00:13:28.920 --> 00:13:31.830 align:middle line:84%
from the effect of that,
although of course this factor

00:13:31.830 --> 00:13:34.260 align:middle line:90%
no longer really applies.

00:13:34.260 --> 00:13:36.990 align:middle line:84%
As I mentioned at the
meeting the other night,

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the pope is now distinctly
to the left of Mr. Aiken

00:13:39.900 --> 00:13:42.990 align:middle line:90%
on the Irish foreign policy.

00:13:42.990 --> 00:13:45.450 align:middle line:84%
But you know, once
people get scared,

00:13:45.450 --> 00:13:48.240 align:middle line:90%
they tend to stay scared.

00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.820 align:middle line:84%
Too often, the solution
for social problems

00:13:50.820 --> 00:13:53.220 align:middle line:90%
was to go and have a few drinks.

00:13:53.220 --> 00:13:56.250 align:middle line:84%
The pubs were for so long
masculine purgatories,

00:13:56.250 --> 00:13:57.720 align:middle line:84%
but now that women
are allowed in,

00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:58.970 align:middle line:90%
things have begun to cheer up.

00:13:58.970 --> 00:14:02.329 align:middle line:90%
[UPBEAT MUSIC, WOMEN CHATTERING]

00:14:02.329 --> 00:14:44.574 align:middle line:90%

00:14:44.574 --> 00:14:46.065 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC FADES]

00:14:46.065 --> 00:14:49.544 align:middle line:90%
[PEOPLE CHATTERING]

00:14:49.544 --> 00:14:55.508 align:middle line:90%

00:14:55.508 --> 00:14:58.987 align:middle line:84%
[MUSIC - DUBLINERS, \"ROCKY ROAD
TO DUBLIN\"]

00:14:58.987 --> 00:15:08.430 align:middle line:90%

00:15:08.430 --> 00:15:11.409 align:middle line:84%
(SINGING) In the merry month
of [? June, ?] away from home

00:15:11.409 --> 00:15:11.909 align:middle line:90%
I started.

00:15:11.909 --> 00:15:14.891 align:middle line:84%
Left the girls of Tuam
nearly brokenhearted.

00:15:14.891 --> 00:15:17.873 align:middle line:84%
Saluted me father dear,
kissed me darling mother,

00:15:17.873 --> 00:15:20.606 align:middle line:84%
I drank a pint of beer,
tears and grief to smother.

00:15:20.606 --> 00:15:23.340 align:middle line:84%
Then off to reap the corn,
and leave where I was born,

00:15:23.340 --> 00:15:26.322 align:middle line:84%
cut a stout black thorn to
banish ghosts and goblins.

00:15:26.322 --> 00:15:28.310 align:middle line:84%
A pair of brand new
brogues to rattle

00:15:28.310 --> 00:15:30.298 align:middle line:84%
o\'er the bogs,
hunting all the dogs

00:15:30.298 --> 00:15:32.286 align:middle line:90%
on the rocky road to Dublin.

00:15:32.286 --> 00:15:33.777 align:middle line:90%
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

00:15:33.777 --> 00:15:37.586 align:middle line:84%
Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road and all the way

00:15:37.586 --> 00:15:40.735 align:middle line:90%
to Dublin, whack follol de dah.

00:15:40.735 --> 00:15:43.717 align:middle line:84%
In Mullingar that night
I rested limbs so weary.

00:15:43.717 --> 00:15:46.699 align:middle line:84%
Started by daylight next
morning blithe and airy.

00:15:46.699 --> 00:15:49.184 align:middle line:84%
Took a drop of the pure to
keep me soul from sinking.

00:15:49.184 --> 00:15:52.166 align:middle line:84%
That\'s the Paddy\'s cure
whenever [INAUDIBLE] drinking.

00:15:52.166 --> 00:15:55.500 align:middle line:84%
See the lasses smile,
laughing all the while at me

00:15:55.500 --> 00:15:56.290 align:middle line:90%
curious style.

00:15:56.290 --> 00:15:57.580 align:middle line:90%
Set me heart a\'bubbling.

00:15:57.580 --> 00:16:00.350 align:middle line:84%
They asked if I were hired,
the wages I required,

00:16:00.350 --> 00:16:02.110 align:middle line:90%
and I was bloody tired--

00:16:02.110 --> 00:16:03.752 align:middle line:90%
On the rocky road to Dublin.

00:16:03.752 --> 00:16:05.180 align:middle line:90%
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

00:16:05.180 --> 00:16:09.160 align:middle line:84%
Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road and all the way

00:16:09.160 --> 00:16:09.660 align:middle line:90%
to Dublin.

00:16:09.660 --> 00:16:12.540 align:middle line:90%
Whack follol de rah.

00:16:12.540 --> 00:16:13.980 align:middle line:90%
In Dublin next arrived.

00:16:13.980 --> 00:16:16.778 align:middle line:84%
I thought [INAUDIBLE]
to be so soon deprived

00:16:16.778 --> 00:16:17.820 align:middle line:90%
a view of that fine city.

00:16:17.820 --> 00:16:20.540 align:middle line:84%
T\'was then I took a stroll
all among the [? quality. ?]

00:16:20.540 --> 00:16:23.606 align:middle line:84%
Me bundle it was stole
[INAUDIBLE] locality.

00:16:23.606 --> 00:16:24.974 align:middle line:90%
Something crossed me mind.

00:16:24.974 --> 00:16:26.320 align:middle line:90%
Next I looked behind.

00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.941 align:middle line:84%
No bundle could I find
upon my stick a\'bobbing.

00:16:28.941 --> 00:16:30.400 align:middle line:90%
Inquired [INAUDIBLE] the rogue.

00:16:30.400 --> 00:16:33.180 align:middle line:84%
Said me Connaught brogue,
it wasn\'t much in vogue--

00:16:33.180 --> 00:16:35.346 align:middle line:90%
On the rocky road to Dublin.

00:16:35.346 --> 00:16:36.616 align:middle line:90%
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

00:16:36.616 --> 00:16:40.240 align:middle line:84%
Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road and all the way

00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:41.140 align:middle line:90%
to Dublin.

00:16:41.140 --> 00:16:43.132 align:middle line:90%
Whack follol de dah.

00:16:43.132 --> 00:16:47.701 align:middle line:84%
But soon [INAUDIBLE]
Landed on the quay

00:16:47.701 --> 00:16:49.385 align:middle line:90%
just as the ship was sailing.

00:16:49.385 --> 00:16:51.790 align:middle line:84%
The captain at me
[INAUDIBLE] no room had he.

00:16:51.790 --> 00:16:53.233 align:middle line:90%
But then I jumped aboard.

00:16:53.233 --> 00:16:56.200 align:middle line:84%
A cabin [INAUDIBLE] for
Paddy down among the pigs.

00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:57.695 align:middle line:90%
Played some hearty rigs.

00:16:57.695 --> 00:17:00.238 align:middle line:84%
Danced some hearty jigs,
the water round me bubbling.

00:17:00.238 --> 00:17:01.735 align:middle line:90%
Went up to Holyhead.

00:17:01.735 --> 00:17:03.232 align:middle line:90%
I wish that I were dead.

00:17:03.232 --> 00:17:04.230 align:middle line:90%
Better far instead--

00:17:04.230 --> 00:17:06.226 align:middle line:90%
On the rocky road to Dublin.

00:17:06.226 --> 00:17:07.723 align:middle line:90%
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

00:17:07.723 --> 00:17:11.714 align:middle line:84%
Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road and all the way

00:17:11.714 --> 00:17:12.214 align:middle line:90%
to Dublin.

00:17:12.214 --> 00:17:14.709 align:middle line:90%
Whack follol de dah.

00:17:14.709 --> 00:17:17.204 align:middle line:84%
The boys of
Liverpool, [INAUDIBLE]

00:17:17.204 --> 00:17:19.200 align:middle line:90%
landed called meself a fool.

00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:20.697 align:middle line:90%
I could no longer stand it.

00:17:20.697 --> 00:17:22.194 align:middle line:90%
Me blood began to boil.

00:17:22.194 --> 00:17:23.192 align:middle line:90%
Temper I was losing.

00:17:23.192 --> 00:17:27.683 align:middle line:84%
Poor old Ireland\'s [INAUDIBLE]
Hurrah, me soul, says I,

00:17:27.683 --> 00:17:29.180 align:middle line:90%
shillelagh I let fly.

00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:31.675 align:middle line:84%
Galway boys were [INAUDIBLE]
they saw I was a\'hobbling.

00:17:31.675 --> 00:17:34.420 align:middle line:84%
With a loud hurray,
joined me in the fray.

00:17:34.420 --> 00:17:35.810 align:middle line:90%
They quickly cleared a way--

00:17:35.810 --> 00:17:39.282 align:middle line:84%
For the rocky road to
Dublin, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

00:17:39.282 --> 00:17:43.002 align:middle line:84%
Hunt the hare and turn her down
the rocky road and all the way

00:17:43.002 --> 00:17:46.722 align:middle line:90%
to Dublin, whack follol de dah.

00:17:46.722 --> 00:17:50.194 align:middle line:90%
[PATRONS APPLAUDING]

00:17:50.194 --> 00:17:52.674 align:middle line:90%

00:17:52.674 --> 00:17:56.146 align:middle line:90%
[MERRY CHATTERING]

00:17:56.146 --> 00:18:10.053 align:middle line:90%

00:18:10.053 --> 00:18:12.817 align:middle line:90%
[FIDDLE MUSIC]

00:18:12.817 --> 00:18:14.813 align:middle line:90%

00:18:14.813 --> 00:18:18.306 align:middle line:90%
[RHYTHMIC CLACKING]

00:18:18.306 --> 00:18:53.236 align:middle line:90%

00:18:53.236 --> 00:18:54.234 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:18:54.234 --> 00:19:24.173 align:middle line:90%

00:19:24.173 --> 00:19:24.673 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC ENDS]

00:19:24.673 --> 00:19:28.166 align:middle line:90%
[PATRONS APPLAUD AND CHATTER]

00:19:28.166 --> 00:19:41.753 align:middle line:90%

00:19:41.753 --> 00:19:43.545 align:middle line:84%
[SEABIRDS CALLING, DISTANT CROWD
CHEERING]

00:19:43.545 --> 00:19:44.087 align:middle line:90%
[SHARP CRACK]

00:19:44.087 --> 00:19:47.010 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:19:47.010 --> 00:19:48.490 align:middle line:90%
[WHISTLE SHRILLS]

00:19:48.490 --> 00:19:48.990 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:19:48.990 --> 00:19:51.960 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD APPLAUDS]

00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:53.940 align:middle line:90%
[DISTANT WHISTLE SHRILLS]

00:19:53.940 --> 00:19:57.405 align:middle line:90%
[WOOD CRACKING, CROWD SHRIEKING]

00:19:57.405 --> 00:20:03.380 align:middle line:90%

00:20:03.380 --> 00:20:06.698 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:20:06.698 --> 00:20:07.684 align:middle line:90%

00:20:07.684 --> 00:20:11.135 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:20:11.135 --> 00:20:12.892 align:middle line:90%
[WHISTLE SHRILLS]

00:20:12.892 --> 00:20:13.600 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD SHRIEKING]

00:20:13.600 --> 00:20:17.051 align:middle line:90%
[WOOD CRACKS]

00:20:17.051 --> 00:20:21.981 align:middle line:90%

00:20:21.981 --> 00:20:25.432 align:middle line:90%
[WHISTLES SHRILLING]

00:20:25.432 --> 00:20:25.940 align:middle line:90%

00:20:25.940 --> 00:20:28.830 align:middle line:84%
72 years ago, as a
gesture in defiance

00:20:28.830 --> 00:20:32.010 align:middle line:84%
of the British invader,
the GAA instituted a ban

00:20:32.010 --> 00:20:34.380 align:middle line:84%
on playing what they
consider to be foreign games.

00:20:34.380 --> 00:20:36.130 align:middle line:90%
[WHISTLE SHRILLS]

00:20:36.130 --> 00:20:38.460 align:middle line:84%
They also banned
looking at foreign games

00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:43.200 align:middle line:84%
or going to dances run by clubs
which played foreign games.

00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:46.740 align:middle line:84%
This ban is still
in existence today.

00:20:46.740 --> 00:20:49.300 align:middle line:84%
The Assistant
Secretary of the GAA.

00:20:49.300 --> 00:20:52.560 align:middle line:84%
The Gaelic Athletic Association
has a ban on foreign games,

00:20:52.560 --> 00:20:55.500 align:middle line:84%
but it is unusual
only when taken

00:20:55.500 --> 00:20:58.860 align:middle line:84%
in the context of
[INAUDIBLE] sport.

00:20:58.860 --> 00:21:01.392 align:middle line:84%
The rule aims at preventing
members of the association,

00:21:01.392 --> 00:21:02.850 align:middle line:84%
playing members of
the association,

00:21:02.850 --> 00:21:07.410 align:middle line:84%
from taking an active part
in these English games, which

00:21:07.410 --> 00:21:11.880 align:middle line:84%
are soccer, rugby,
cricket, and hockey.

00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:16.410 align:middle line:84%
The penalty usually is a period
of six months\' suspension.

00:21:16.410 --> 00:21:19.350 align:middle line:84%
If the member in question is
a playing member of a team,

00:21:19.350 --> 00:21:21.310 align:middle line:84%
he cannot play during
that six months--

00:21:21.310 --> 00:21:22.775 align:middle line:84%
and if he is not a player
member, that is to say,

00:21:22.775 --> 00:21:25.275 align:middle line:84%
if he is an official [INAUDIBLE]
just not member of a club--

00:21:25.275 --> 00:21:28.346 align:middle line:84%
he loses the right to
participate in club functions.

00:21:28.346 --> 00:21:31.680 align:middle line:90%

00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:35.370 align:middle line:84%
In principle, the rule
affects approximately quarter

00:21:35.370 --> 00:21:37.220 align:middle line:90%
of a million members.

00:21:37.220 --> 00:21:40.480 align:middle line:84%
The association has
over 3,000 clubs.

00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:43.080 align:middle line:84%
And it is necessary of
course to understand

00:21:43.080 --> 00:21:45.090 align:middle line:84%
that this rule is
retained democratically--

00:21:45.090 --> 00:21:47.370 align:middle line:84%
the association has a
democratic system, which

00:21:47.370 --> 00:21:51.030 align:middle line:84%
is even more democratic than
the normal parliamentary system.

00:21:51.030 --> 00:21:53.570 align:middle line:84%
This rule could
be changed anytime

00:21:53.570 --> 00:21:55.730 align:middle line:84%
that the majority of
the members\' association

00:21:55.730 --> 00:21:56.730 align:middle line:90%
wish to have it changed.

00:21:56.730 --> 00:21:57.772 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE] [? Dublin! ?]

00:21:57.772 --> 00:22:01.221 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD CHATTERING]

00:22:01.221 --> 00:22:04.215 align:middle line:90%

00:22:04.215 --> 00:22:07.708 align:middle line:90%
[WHISTLE SHRILLS]

00:22:07.708 --> 00:22:12.200 align:middle line:90%

00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.570 align:middle line:84%
The Gaelic Athletic
Association is, of course,

00:22:14.570 --> 00:22:17.540 align:middle line:84%
something much wider than
a sports organization.

00:22:17.540 --> 00:22:22.820 align:middle line:84%
It was founded for the
purpose of utilizing sport

00:22:22.820 --> 00:22:26.900 align:middle line:84%
to inject manhood and
nationalism into Irish manhood

00:22:26.900 --> 00:22:30.710 align:middle line:84%
at a period when the
spirit of the Irish people

00:22:30.710 --> 00:22:33.250 align:middle line:84%
was very low and very
weak after famine

00:22:33.250 --> 00:22:35.240 align:middle line:90%
and centuries of persecution.

00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.620 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD CLAMORING]

00:22:37.620 --> 00:22:40.952 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD APPLAUDING]

00:22:40.952 --> 00:22:44.290 align:middle line:90%

00:22:44.290 --> 00:22:47.950 align:middle line:84%
All of the movements
which have led

00:22:47.950 --> 00:22:54.430 align:middle line:84%
to the establishment of the
state which we have have drawn

00:22:54.430 --> 00:22:56.710 align:middle line:84%
their members, be
they fighting members

00:22:56.710 --> 00:23:00.310 align:middle line:84%
or active political
members, from the ranks

00:23:00.310 --> 00:23:02.620 align:middle line:84%
of the Gaelic Athletic
Association-- and as such,

00:23:02.620 --> 00:23:06.200 align:middle line:84%
it has been the reservoir
of Irish manhood

00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:11.576 align:middle line:84%
who have played their part in
the evolution of the state.

00:23:11.576 --> 00:23:14.046 align:middle line:90%
[WHISTLE SHRILLS]

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[WOOD CRACKS, CROWD CLAMORING]

00:23:17.504 --> 00:23:18.492 align:middle line:90%

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[PLAYERS SHOUTING]

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[WOOD CRACKS]

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[WHISTLE BLARING]

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For more than 30
years, we had been

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led to believe that
the magic potion which

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was to restore
dignity, identity,

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and confidence to a
mutilated republic

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was the revival of our
ancient tongue, Gaelic.

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Vast quantities
of time and money

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were spent on this revival,
but today, less than 3%

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of the people speak Gaelic.

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It became time to live a little
less in the folkloric past

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and do something serious about
unemployment and emigration.

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So while the die-hard patriots
were still modestly averting

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their gaze from
a game of hockey,

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the politicians, forced
to industrialize,

00:24:31.345 --> 00:24:35.125 align:middle line:84%
had to open up the country
tax-free to real foreigners.

00:24:35.125 --> 00:24:38.100 align:middle line:90%

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This is the last of the
Japanese factories which,

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like the French and
some of the Germans,

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did not quite manage
to set down roots

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in the newly ambitious republic,
where the Japanese were

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willing to take on a
little work on the side.

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I\'m teaching some judo.

00:24:53.758 --> 00:25:01.580 align:middle line:90%

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But at least Ireland, which had
lost so many sons to the United

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States, occasionally
gets one back.

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Since becoming an
Irish citizen, I

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have naturally
given some thought

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to the best ways I
could serve my country.

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And as the only
thing I know about is

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filmmaking, why, my speculations
naturally took that direction.

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One day, while we were shooting
here on this very location,

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[INAUDIBLE] paid us a visit.

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I took the opportunity
to point out

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that a film made by
Ireland and Irishmen

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would be of infinitely greater
importance to the country

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than this foreign film
that we were making,

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and still are making, here now.

00:25:54.605 --> 00:25:57.460 align:middle line:90%

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It\'s true-- it\'s plowing
some million dollars

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into the economy of the country.

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But in the long run, that
wouldn\'t mean half as much

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as a native film
made by Irishmen.

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Well, over the last year,
not only our own paper,

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but other daily papers
have been carrying

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lengthy correspondences
and lengthy articles

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in and around the bill,
and the whole question

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has been thrown open--

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this is perhaps the most recent
development, about a year ago.

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And you cannot-- no censor can
stop a flow of ideas such as we

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have now if he wanted to-- or
perhaps they don\'t want to.

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You can push too hard at it.

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It\'s a very difficult
problem, obviously,

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for a man say in his
60s, whether he\'s

00:27:05.090 --> 00:27:07.820 align:middle line:84%
a parish priest
or just a layman,

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suddenly to find things
changing so fast under him.

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There\'s a tendency here,
particularly in rural areas

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I\'d say, naturally
for the elderly people

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to be rather appalled,
and to go rather slowly.

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Among the younger people,
among the younger priests--

00:27:23.360 --> 00:27:26.240 align:middle line:84%
and I\'d say people about
in their 30s, say--

00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:27.920 align:middle line:84%
the tendency is
to push very hard.

00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:31.223 align:middle line:90%

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And the worst thing about
the Irish newspapers

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is that none of them
are independent.

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There are three
national newspapers--

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\"The Irish Press,\" \"The
Irish Independent,\"

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\"The Irish Times--\"
and each one of them

00:27:38.600 --> 00:27:40.070 align:middle line:84%
is tied, more or
less definitely,

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to one particular point of view.

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The Irish Independent
is more or less

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run by the Catholic Church,
and represents the Catholic

00:27:45.050 --> 00:27:46.010 align:middle line:90%
Church\'s interest in Ireland.

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\"The Irish Press\" is run by
the largest political party--

00:27:48.260 --> 00:27:50.180 align:middle line:84%
Fianna Fáil-- and naturally
represents the government point

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of view.

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And the Irish Times, up to
about three or four years ago,

00:27:53.090 --> 00:27:55.490 align:middle line:84%
has always spoken for
the hereditary Protestant

00:27:55.490 --> 00:27:57.230 align:middle line:90%
ascendancy, which--

00:27:57.230 --> 00:27:59.750 align:middle line:84%
the Anglo-Irish ascendancy,
I suppose you might say.

00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:01.430 align:middle line:84%
They have tried, in
the last few years,

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to veer in the direction
of an independent newspaper

00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:06.897 align:middle line:84%
containing comment
of a liberal brand

00:28:06.897 --> 00:28:08.480 align:middle line:84%
from all sections
of opinion, but they

00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:09.980 align:middle line:84%
haven\'t made a very
good show of it,

00:28:09.980 --> 00:28:12.238 align:middle line:84%
I think-- and their
so-called liberalism really

00:28:12.238 --> 00:28:14.780 align:middle line:84%
amounts to publishing every now
and then a couple of articles

00:28:14.780 --> 00:28:17.720 align:middle line:84%
by well-known Catholics,
and every now and then

00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:20.632 align:middle line:84%
a couple of so-called
liberal assessments

00:28:20.632 --> 00:28:21.590 align:middle line:90%
of the Irish situation.

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But if you scratch them,
you get very quickly back

00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:25.700 align:middle line:90%
to the old idea, I think.

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You really want to talk about
the news reporting before you

00:28:28.310 --> 00:28:30.620 align:middle line:84%
go on to comment, but
every one of these papers

00:28:30.620 --> 00:28:32.113 align:middle line:90%
does not give you the facts.

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All we\'re really
interested in a news story

00:28:33.905 --> 00:28:35.240 align:middle line:84%
is finding the facts--
we can\'t get it

00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.448 align:middle line:84%
from any one of those papers,
because their editorial

00:28:37.448 --> 00:28:39.560 align:middle line:84%
opinion biases the
coverage of any event.

00:28:39.560 --> 00:28:43.062 align:middle line:84%
There was this just recent case
of the advertisers, the press,

00:28:43.062 --> 00:28:45.020 align:middle line:84%
and television, all caught
up in the one thing.

00:28:45.020 --> 00:28:46.863 align:middle line:90%
There was a program which was--

00:28:46.863 --> 00:28:48.780 align:middle line:84%
where the producer was
thrown off the program,

00:28:48.780 --> 00:28:51.710 align:middle line:84%
at Teilifis Eireann, This
story was relayed again

00:28:51.710 --> 00:28:55.040 align:middle line:84%
in \"The Irish Times,\"
and on the Thursday.

00:28:55.040 --> 00:28:58.790 align:middle line:84%
Yet until last night, no
paper had printed any letters

00:28:58.790 --> 00:28:59.990 align:middle line:90%
regarding this fact.

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Now private inquiries have
made an absolute certainty

00:29:04.340 --> 00:29:06.950 align:middle line:84%
that many, many letters
were received by the press

00:29:06.950 --> 00:29:08.090 align:middle line:90%
and by \"The Irish Times.\"

00:29:08.090 --> 00:29:10.700 align:middle line:84%
\"The Irish Times\" particularly--
which prides itself on its

00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:11.757 align:middle line:90%
correspondents\' columns--

00:29:11.757 --> 00:29:12.590 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

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There is a fact
that \"Home Truths\"

00:29:15.230 --> 00:29:20.060 align:middle line:84%
was a vicious acquiescence
by the organization

00:29:20.060 --> 00:29:22.100 align:middle line:84%
of the state, Raidio
Teilifis Eireann, which

00:29:22.100 --> 00:29:26.060 align:middle line:84%
is trusted with disseminating
the truth, the news--

00:29:26.060 --> 00:29:28.260 align:middle line:90%
where it gave in to advertisers.

00:29:28.260 --> 00:29:29.520 align:middle line:90%
But these people are scared.

00:29:29.520 --> 00:29:30.140 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

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This brings us back
to the other thing

00:29:31.723 --> 00:29:34.947 align:middle line:84%
that we\'re discussing earlier,
the same basic attitude that,

00:29:34.947 --> 00:29:36.530 align:middle line:84%
if you have a certain
idea and there\'s

00:29:36.530 --> 00:29:38.298 align:middle line:84%
another idea that
doesn\'t mix entirely,

00:29:38.298 --> 00:29:39.840 align:middle line:84%
then it\'s better
not to mix entirely.

00:29:39.840 --> 00:29:42.440 align:middle line:84%
It\'s better to put up a wall,
forget about the other man,

00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.080 align:middle line:84%
and raise your own children in
peace and in proper beliefs.

00:29:45.080 --> 00:29:46.700 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:29:46.700 --> 00:29:49.645 align:middle line:84%
This is a divisive-- this is an
anachronism in European terms.

00:29:49.645 --> 00:29:50.270 align:middle line:90%
Poor education.

00:29:50.270 --> 00:29:51.790 align:middle line:84%
Now we\'re at the stage
where we in the pub

00:29:51.790 --> 00:29:53.690 align:middle line:84%
can talk about these
problems and air them.

00:29:53.690 --> 00:29:55.700 align:middle line:84%
At the moment, we can\'t talk
about them at the university--

00:29:55.700 --> 00:29:57.830 align:middle line:84%
we can\'t get the university
itself to talk about--

00:29:57.830 --> 00:29:58.663 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

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More particularly, about
60% of the population

00:30:00.950 --> 00:30:02.345 align:middle line:84%
is never going to be able
to get to the university

00:30:02.345 --> 00:30:03.095 align:middle line:90%
to talk about them.

00:30:03.095 --> 00:30:03.560 align:middle line:90%
Fair enough.

00:30:03.560 --> 00:30:04.790 align:middle line:84%
How can you talk--
say that, though?

00:30:04.790 --> 00:30:05.330 align:middle line:90%
I mean, this is--

00:30:05.330 --> 00:30:06.163 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:30:06.163 --> 00:30:07.710 align:middle line:90%
I can say it because it\'s true.

00:30:07.710 --> 00:30:08.810 align:middle line:90%
Because it\'s a fact.

00:30:08.810 --> 00:30:11.540 align:middle line:84%
A child born in Donegal has one
per the chance of a child born

00:30:11.540 --> 00:30:12.840 align:middle line:84%
in Dublin of getting
to university,

00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:14.000 align:middle line:84%
and this is
irrespective of the fact

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.417 align:middle line:84%
that there are a hell of a lot
of poor children in Dublin.

00:30:16.417 --> 00:30:18.595 align:middle line:90%
[CHILDREN CHATTERING]

00:30:18.595 --> 00:30:19.970 align:middle line:84%
Not only are the
national schools

00:30:19.970 --> 00:30:22.200 align:middle line:84%
supervised by the
parish priests,

00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.220 align:middle line:84%
but schools and colleges
are, with rare exceptions,

00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:27.825 align:middle line:84%
in the hands of priests,
nuns, and Christian brothers.

00:30:27.825 --> 00:30:30.200 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERFUL CHATTERING]

00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.470 align:middle line:84%
With control of the schools,
the clergy\'s fervent concern

00:30:33.470 --> 00:30:36.748 align:middle line:84%
is that the child should
get a good start in life.

00:30:36.748 --> 00:30:39.020 align:middle line:90%
[WOOD SMACKS]

00:30:39.020 --> 00:30:42.400 align:middle line:84%
Because of Adam\'s sin, we are
born without sanctifying grace.

00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.420 align:middle line:84%
Our intellect is darkened,
our will is weakened,

00:30:44.420 --> 00:30:45.940 align:middle line:84%
our passions inclined
to evil, and we are

00:30:45.940 --> 00:30:47.270 align:middle line:90%
subject to suffering and death.

00:30:47.270 --> 00:30:50.060 align:middle line:90%

00:30:50.060 --> 00:30:53.070 align:middle line:84%
The effects of original
sin are as follows.

00:30:53.070 --> 00:30:56.730 align:middle line:84%
First of all, we are
made less brainier,

00:30:56.730 --> 00:30:59.030 align:middle line:84%
which means that,
in this day and age,

00:30:59.030 --> 00:31:04.650 align:middle line:84%
doctors have not yet reached
cures for certain diseases.

00:31:04.650 --> 00:31:08.620 align:middle line:84%
But if Adam and Eve had
not committed the sin,

00:31:08.620 --> 00:31:12.830 align:middle line:84%
there would probably be a
cure for nearly every disease,

00:31:12.830 --> 00:31:15.270 align:middle line:84%
and people would
have no hardship

00:31:15.270 --> 00:31:19.260 align:middle line:84%
and there would be no
stupid people, which

00:31:19.260 --> 00:31:24.890 align:middle line:84%
would mean that the world
would be very rich, and--

00:31:24.890 --> 00:31:28.190 align:middle line:84%
Some of the chief
dangers to chastity

00:31:28.190 --> 00:31:36.410 align:middle line:84%
would be going around with bad
companions who give scandal,

00:31:36.410 --> 00:31:45.710 align:middle line:84%
wearing very miniskirts, and
seeing bad plays and films,

00:31:45.710 --> 00:31:51.340 align:middle line:84%
or reading books knowing
that they are bad.

00:31:51.340 --> 00:31:54.690 align:middle line:90%

00:31:54.690 --> 00:31:57.780 align:middle line:84%
Chief danger to chastity
are idleness, intemperance,

00:31:57.780 --> 00:32:00.770 align:middle line:84%
bad companions, [INAUDIBLE],,
improper dances,

00:32:00.770 --> 00:32:03.840 align:middle line:84%
immodest dress, and indecent
books, plays, and pictures.

00:32:03.840 --> 00:32:06.432 align:middle line:90%

00:32:06.432 --> 00:32:07.640 align:middle line:90%
What will they grow up to be?

00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.788 align:middle line:90%

00:32:09.788 --> 00:32:12.080 align:middle line:84%
Perhaps one of them will grow
up to be a schoolteacher,

00:32:12.080 --> 00:32:13.940 align:middle line:84%
and write a book
like \"The Dark.\"

00:32:13.940 --> 00:32:16.940 align:middle line:84%
Judged indecent three
years ago and banned,

00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:20.480 align:middle line:84%
McGahern was dismissed from
his post by a parish priest.

00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:21.980 align:middle line:84%
The National
Teachers Organization

00:32:21.980 --> 00:32:25.452 align:middle line:84%
and the Ministry of
Education abandoned the case.

00:32:25.452 --> 00:32:27.160 align:middle line:84%
For half a century,
one of Ireland\'s most

00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.680 align:middle line:84%
notorious exports
has been its writers.

00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:35.430 align:middle line:90%

00:32:35.430 --> 00:32:38.610 align:middle line:84%
Most of the younger
Irish artists

00:32:38.610 --> 00:32:44.490 align:middle line:84%
are engaged in what I
might call a search for--

00:32:44.490 --> 00:32:45.450 align:middle line:90%
an aesthetic search.

00:32:45.450 --> 00:32:48.840 align:middle line:84%
They\'re looking for an
aesthetic reason for existence

00:32:48.840 --> 00:32:51.300 align:middle line:84%
as distinct from,
let\'s put it, a purely

00:32:51.300 --> 00:32:55.480 align:middle line:84%
commercial thing into which
the country has descended

00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:57.460 align:middle line:90%
over the last, say, 10 years.

00:32:57.460 --> 00:32:59.950 align:middle line:84%
This transition is
a very distinct one.

00:32:59.950 --> 00:33:02.190 align:middle line:84%
If I could give examples
of the good side of it,

00:33:02.190 --> 00:33:07.670 align:middle line:84%
for instance, as a young
communist 12 years ago.

00:33:07.670 --> 00:33:11.270 align:middle line:84%
The church was able, by using
a paper called The Catholic

00:33:11.270 --> 00:33:14.920 align:middle line:84%
Standard, to completely destroy
any opportunity for employment

00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.750 align:middle line:84%
of myself or any other
communist of the time.

00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:22.070 align:middle line:84%
I recall an incident when the
front page of a newspaper--

00:33:22.070 --> 00:33:25.007 align:middle line:84%
at this stage, mark you,
I was only about 21, 22--

00:33:25.007 --> 00:33:26.840 align:middle line:84%
when the front page of
The Catholic Standard

00:33:26.840 --> 00:33:31.100 align:middle line:84%
carried a large statement and
a photograph of me, saying,

00:33:31.100 --> 00:33:33.000 align:middle line:90%
this man is dangerous.

00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.700 align:middle line:84%
Now that might sound funny,
but in point of fact,

00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:37.520 align:middle line:84%
it meant five years
exile, because I simply

00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:42.020 align:middle line:84%
could not get a job until I
came back as a theater director.

00:33:42.020 --> 00:33:44.000 align:middle line:84%
This would not be
possible today.

00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.610 align:middle line:84%
It wouldn\'t be possible
because the younger artists--

00:33:46.610 --> 00:33:49.100 align:middle line:84%
when I say young, I say young
to middle-aged artists--

00:33:49.100 --> 00:33:51.140 align:middle line:90%
just would not tolerate it.

00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:53.570 align:middle line:84%
It\'s the ambition of
many young theater people

00:33:53.570 --> 00:33:57.590 align:middle line:84%
to take over the once
world-renowned Abbey Theatre.

00:33:57.590 --> 00:34:01.130 align:middle line:84%
The Abbey began essentially
as an aristocratic theater.

00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:05.160 align:middle line:84%
It was run by WB Yeats,
the poet, and Lady Gregory.

00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.330 align:middle line:84%
Now, it developed towards
a proletarian theater,

00:34:08.330 --> 00:34:10.310 align:middle line:90%
best example by Seán O\'Casey.

00:34:10.310 --> 00:34:13.730 align:middle line:84%
The bourgeois who are
moving in rejected O\'Casey,

00:34:13.730 --> 00:34:16.040 align:middle line:84%
and rejected this
development of the theater.

00:34:16.040 --> 00:34:18.840 align:middle line:84%
It then became what it is,
largely speaking, now--

00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.960 align:middle line:84%
a theater of the
petty bourgeois.

00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.880 align:middle line:90%
It has no aesthetic.

00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.460 align:middle line:84%
But there is a movement--
there are several movements

00:34:25.460 --> 00:34:28.715 align:middle line:84%
in the country whose
aim essentially must be,

00:34:28.715 --> 00:34:31.340 align:middle line:84%
and the only possible aim, is to
take over the National Theatre

00:34:31.340 --> 00:34:33.739 align:middle line:84%
because the National
Theatre-- in fact The Abbey--

00:34:33.739 --> 00:34:36.170 align:middle line:90%
reflects conditions elsewhere.

00:34:36.170 --> 00:34:38.630 align:middle line:84%
But it isn\'t doing so
enough at the moment--

00:34:38.630 --> 00:34:41.389 align:middle line:84%
The Abbey has become
enclosed, and it\'s not really

00:34:41.389 --> 00:34:43.820 align:middle line:84%
reflecting the great
transitions which

00:34:43.820 --> 00:34:48.080 align:middle line:84%
are taking place in the country
because it\'s still held up--

00:34:48.080 --> 00:34:52.037 align:middle line:84%
and the old guard, in
fact, remain in control.

00:34:52.037 --> 00:34:53.120 align:middle line:90%
They\'ve got to be removed.

00:34:53.120 --> 00:34:58.770 align:middle line:90%

00:34:58.770 --> 00:35:01.598 align:middle line:84%
All of these authors have
had books banned in Ireland.

00:35:01.598 --> 00:35:05.084 align:middle line:90%
[BELL TOLLING]

00:35:05.084 --> 00:35:55.880 align:middle line:90%

00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.760 align:middle line:84%
Oh, I am a member of the
Appeal Board of the censorship.

00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.660 align:middle line:84%
The Appeal Board,
which considers

00:36:03.660 --> 00:36:07.340 align:middle line:84%
cases where books have been
banned by the censorship

00:36:07.340 --> 00:36:11.130 align:middle line:84%
board, which by the publisher,
by the author appeals

00:36:11.130 --> 00:36:14.670 align:middle line:84%
or a certain number of members
of parliament can also appeal.

00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:18.600 align:middle line:84%
And that comes in for us, and
we take the ban off, sometimes.

00:36:18.600 --> 00:36:21.340 align:middle line:90%
Sometimes we don\'t.

00:36:21.340 --> 00:36:26.060 align:middle line:84%
Well, there was an
old friend of mine,

00:36:26.060 --> 00:36:28.330 align:middle line:84%
Jimmy Montgomery, a very
well-known Dublin man,

00:36:28.330 --> 00:36:30.770 align:middle line:84%
with whom I had many a
drink in this very bar,

00:36:30.770 --> 00:36:33.380 align:middle line:90%
was appointed film censor.

00:36:33.380 --> 00:36:38.690 align:middle line:84%
And after some years, the sound
films came in, and for a while,

00:36:38.690 --> 00:36:44.680 align:middle line:84%
he had to censor the sound films
before the apparatus arrived,

00:36:44.680 --> 00:36:48.680 align:middle line:84%
so that he had to follow
the picture in dumb show--

00:36:48.680 --> 00:36:51.380 align:middle line:90%
seeing it, but not hearing it.

00:36:51.380 --> 00:36:54.750 align:middle line:84%
As he said, I only know
them by sight, not by sound.

00:36:54.750 --> 00:36:58.400 align:middle line:84%
And as regards censorship,
he used to say,

00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:02.570 align:middle line:84%
why, I\'m between the
devil and the Holy See.

00:37:02.570 --> 00:37:04.760 align:middle line:84%
Certain countries,
like England, seem

00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.910 align:middle line:84%
to have given up all
their traditional values--

00:37:07.910 --> 00:37:12.480 align:middle line:84%
their Christianity, their
old traditions of morality

00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.180 align:middle line:84%
and everything-- and
seem to be saying,

00:37:15.180 --> 00:37:22.640 align:middle line:84%
or seem to be holding up
the point of view that sin,

00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:26.760 align:middle line:84%
the idea of sin, shall be
killed, and that all vice--

00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.480 align:middle line:90%
what used to be called vice--

00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.980 align:middle line:84%
and immorality
should be allowed,

00:37:30.980 --> 00:37:34.190 align:middle line:84%
and should be
acknowledged, and should

00:37:34.190 --> 00:37:38.265 align:middle line:84%
be treated with
indulgence, and even with--

00:37:38.265 --> 00:37:41.058 align:middle line:90%

00:37:41.058 --> 00:37:42.600 align:middle line:84%
even more than
indulgence, what shall

00:37:42.600 --> 00:37:46.520 align:middle line:84%
I say, but with
affection, almost.

00:37:46.520 --> 00:37:50.150 align:middle line:84%
So you often do feel that
the world is going to blazes.

00:37:50.150 --> 00:37:52.630 align:middle line:84%
I feel that, in
the modern world,

00:37:52.630 --> 00:37:55.310 align:middle line:84%
that the maintenance of faith
and the Christian doctrine

00:37:55.310 --> 00:37:59.450 align:middle line:84%
is very difficult. The
discoveries of science,

00:37:59.450 --> 00:38:02.630 align:middle line:90%
the advance in philosophy, the--

00:38:02.630 --> 00:38:11.540 align:middle line:84%
so to speak, the adultness of
the modern mind, and so on,

00:38:11.540 --> 00:38:13.730 align:middle line:84%
makes faith more
and more difficult.

00:38:13.730 --> 00:38:17.030 align:middle line:84%
And at the same time, I feel
that if the world has no faith,

00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:18.650 align:middle line:84%
doesn\'t believe in
its own destiny,

00:38:18.650 --> 00:38:20.775 align:middle line:84%
doesn\'t believe that its
marching towards something

00:38:20.775 --> 00:38:24.200 align:middle line:84%
worthwhile, that that will
be a very, very serious

00:38:24.200 --> 00:38:26.190 align:middle line:84%
and despairing
thing for the world.

00:38:26.190 --> 00:38:31.740 align:middle line:84%
But on the other hand,
there is the resistance.

00:38:31.740 --> 00:38:36.200 align:middle line:84%
The resistance is the
reorganization and development

00:38:36.200 --> 00:38:36.860 align:middle line:90%
of the church.

00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:40.170 align:middle line:84%
The church is preparing
for the future fight

00:38:40.170 --> 00:38:44.790 align:middle line:84%
against the future
thought of mankind--

00:38:44.790 --> 00:38:50.270 align:middle line:84%
and I am full of
confidence that the--

00:38:50.270 --> 00:38:54.140 align:middle line:84%
shall I say-- that the gates
of hell shall not prevail.

00:38:54.140 --> 00:38:59.415 align:middle line:84%
I think of the text
[SPEAKING LATING]

00:38:59.415 --> 00:39:02.880 align:middle line:90%
[MERRY MUSIC]

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:17.207 align:middle line:90%

00:39:17.207 --> 00:39:19.540 align:middle line:84%
The tennis club dance hall
is the approved meeting place

00:39:19.540 --> 00:39:21.340 align:middle line:84%
of young middle
class men and women

00:39:21.340 --> 00:39:23.440 align:middle line:84%
who, with the amical
consent of all,

00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.380 align:middle line:84%
have spent their
school days separated.

00:39:25.380 --> 00:39:33.310 align:middle line:90%
(MEN SINGING) [INAUDIBLE]

00:39:33.310 --> 00:39:36.130 align:middle line:84%
It is the women\'s lair where
the men come apprehensively,

00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:38.890 align:middle line:84%
defiantly, or with
extravagant expectations--

00:39:38.890 --> 00:39:40.710 align:middle line:84%
but not until after
the pubs close.

00:39:40.710 --> 00:40:03.520 align:middle line:90%
(MEN SINGING) [INAUDIBLE]

00:40:03.520 --> 00:40:06.083 align:middle line:84%
Irish women have long accepted,
more or less cheerfully,

00:40:06.083 --> 00:40:08.250 align:middle line:84%
that they have to patiently
lay in wait for the men.

00:40:08.250 --> 00:40:25.440 align:middle line:90%

00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.450 align:middle line:90%
[MEN CHATTERING]

00:40:27.450 --> 00:41:02.954 align:middle line:90%

00:41:02.954 --> 00:41:04.448 align:middle line:90%
[PATRONS CHATTERING]

00:41:04.448 --> 00:41:07.934 align:middle line:90%
[SLOW DANCE MUSIC]

00:41:07.934 --> 00:42:03.740 align:middle line:90%

00:42:03.740 --> 00:42:06.230 align:middle line:84%
In its modest way, the
tennis club dance hall--

00:42:06.230 --> 00:42:07.550 align:middle line:90%
like the horse show--

00:42:07.550 --> 00:42:12.400 align:middle line:84%
retains a lot of the old
ways, but a favorite meeting

00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.680 align:middle line:84%
place for people of
a certain class who

00:42:14.680 --> 00:42:17.343 align:middle line:90%
value decorum and good manners.

00:42:17.343 --> 00:42:20.654 align:middle line:84%
[PATRONS CHATTERING, INSTRUMENT
TUNING]

00:42:20.654 --> 00:42:23.465 align:middle line:90%

00:42:23.465 --> 00:42:23.965 align:middle line:90%
[ROCK MUSIC]

00:42:23.965 --> 00:42:27.730 align:middle line:84%
(SINGING) I can tell by
the look in their eye

00:42:27.730 --> 00:42:31.090 align:middle line:84%
they have seen
the promised land.

00:42:31.090 --> 00:42:32.590 align:middle line:84%
Maybe it\'s true
that we\'re beginning

00:42:32.590 --> 00:42:34.070 align:middle line:90%
to lose our sense of sin.

00:42:34.070 --> 00:42:36.724 align:middle line:90%
(SINGING) --the street.

00:42:36.724 --> 00:42:40.652 align:middle line:90%
Walking down the street.

00:42:40.652 --> 00:42:42.125 align:middle line:90%
Walking down the street.

00:42:42.125 --> 00:42:55.382 align:middle line:90%

00:42:55.382 --> 00:42:58.500 align:middle line:90%
People getting on and off.

00:42:58.500 --> 00:43:02.682 align:middle line:84%
The crowded streets
are moving slow.

00:43:02.682 --> 00:43:08.138 align:middle line:90%
Cross a road when traffic stops.

00:43:08.138 --> 00:43:12.106 align:middle line:90%
Walking down the street.

00:43:12.106 --> 00:43:13.594 align:middle line:90%
Walking down the street.

00:43:13.594 --> 00:43:46.380 align:middle line:90%

00:43:46.380 --> 00:43:47.760 align:middle line:90%
We got one more record left--

00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:53.194 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:43:53.194 --> 00:43:54.676 align:middle line:90%
This track is from London.

00:43:54.676 --> 00:43:57.146 align:middle line:90%
[SLOW ROCK MUSIC]

00:43:57.146 --> 00:44:02.580 align:middle line:84%
(SINGING) If I
needed somebody, if I

00:44:02.580 --> 00:44:11.472 align:middle line:84%
needed somebody, who would
love me and be true, would

00:44:11.472 --> 00:44:13.942 align:middle line:90%
you love me?

00:44:13.942 --> 00:44:17.894 align:middle line:90%
Would they love me and be true?

00:44:17.894 --> 00:44:20.364 align:middle line:90%
True.

00:44:20.364 --> 00:44:22.828 align:middle line:90%
True.

00:44:22.828 --> 00:44:23.328 align:middle line:90%
True.

00:44:23.328 --> 00:44:30.800 align:middle line:90%

00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:36.100 align:middle line:84%
If I gave them
all my trust would

00:44:36.100 --> 00:44:42.600 align:middle line:84%
they treat it with
respect through this life

00:44:42.600 --> 00:44:45.420 align:middle line:90%
and in the next?

00:44:45.420 --> 00:44:47.928 align:middle line:90%
Would they love me?

00:44:47.928 --> 00:44:52.266 align:middle line:90%
Would they love me and be true?

00:44:52.266 --> 00:44:54.676 align:middle line:90%
True.

00:44:54.676 --> 00:44:57.086 align:middle line:90%
True.

00:44:57.086 --> 00:44:59.020 align:middle line:90%
True.

00:44:59.020 --> 00:45:00.500 align:middle line:84%
If we are losing
our sense of sin,

00:45:00.500 --> 00:45:02.000 align:middle line:84%
there are still
plenty of people who

00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:03.250 align:middle line:90%
want to do something about it.

00:45:03.250 --> 00:45:06.693 align:middle line:90%
[FIDDLE MUSIC]

00:45:06.693 --> 00:45:33.650 align:middle line:90%

00:45:33.650 --> 00:45:36.740 align:middle line:84%
Close involvement of Irish
politicians with the clergy

00:45:36.740 --> 00:45:39.920 align:middle line:84%
is not so much a villainous
conspiracy as a bad habit.

00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:52.842 align:middle line:90%

00:45:52.842 --> 00:45:56.321 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC FADES]

00:45:56.321 --> 00:46:05.290 align:middle line:90%

00:46:05.290 --> 00:46:08.426 align:middle line:84%
I confess to almighty God,
the blessed Mary ever virgin,

00:46:08.426 --> 00:46:10.350 align:middle line:84%
the blessed [INAUDIBLE]
archangel, the blessed

00:46:10.350 --> 00:46:14.200 align:middle line:90%
John the Baptist, [INAUDIBLE]

00:46:14.200 --> 00:46:16.330 align:middle line:84%
The traditional
approach of the clergy

00:46:16.330 --> 00:46:20.130 align:middle line:84%
has always been not to disturb
the simple faith of the people.

00:46:20.130 --> 00:46:22.430 align:middle line:84%
Through my fault,
through my own fault--

00:46:22.430 --> 00:46:25.970 align:middle line:84%
For generations, the priest has
enjoyed an undisputed authority

00:46:25.970 --> 00:46:28.820 align:middle line:90%
in Irish family life.

00:46:28.820 --> 00:46:31.470 align:middle line:84%
The Vatican counsels
of the early \'60s

00:46:31.470 --> 00:46:34.190 align:middle line:84%
have badly shaken
the Irish hierarchy,

00:46:34.190 --> 00:46:36.810 align:middle line:84%
and the old favorite
sport of private mockery

00:46:36.810 --> 00:46:40.130 align:middle line:84%
but public servility to the
clergy has, among the young,

00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:44.018 align:middle line:84%
begun to develop into public
defiance and challenge.

00:46:44.018 --> 00:46:46.310 align:middle line:84%
Some of the younger priests,
with the reluctant consent

00:46:46.310 --> 00:46:50.820 align:middle line:84%
of the hierarchy, are trying
a more modern approach.

00:46:50.820 --> 00:46:54.270 align:middle line:84%
For two days, we recorded the
world of Father Michael Cleary.

00:46:54.270 --> 00:46:57.600 align:middle line:84%
(SINGING) Well,
have you ever passed

00:46:57.600 --> 00:47:02.040 align:middle line:84%
the corner of Fourth and Grand
where a little ball of rhythm

00:47:02.040 --> 00:47:04.380 align:middle line:90%
has a shoeshine stand?

00:47:04.380 --> 00:47:07.500 align:middle line:84%
Everybody gathers and
they clap their hands.

00:47:07.500 --> 00:47:11.010 align:middle line:90%
He\'s a great big bundle of joy.

00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:16.280 align:middle line:84%
He pops a boogie woogie rag,
the Chattanoo-gie shoeshine boy.

00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.640 align:middle line:84%
Well, he charges you a nickel
just to shine one shoe.

00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:24.405 align:middle line:84%
He makes the oldest kind
of leather look like new.

00:47:24.405 --> 00:47:27.000 align:middle line:84%
People feel, want to dance
when he gets through.

00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.860 align:middle line:84%
Oh, he\'s a great
big bundle of joy.

00:47:30.860 --> 00:47:35.740 align:middle line:84%
He pops a boogie woogie rag,
the Chattanoo-gie shoeshine boy.

00:47:35.740 --> 00:47:40.230 align:middle line:84%
Oh, it\'s a wonder that
the rag don\'t tear,

00:47:40.230 --> 00:47:43.480 align:middle line:90%
the way he makes it pop.

00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:47.010 align:middle line:84%
Oh, you ought to see
him flipping the air

00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:50.420 align:middle line:90%
with his [SCATTING] hop.

00:47:50.420 --> 00:47:54.580 align:middle line:84%
Well, he opens up the business
when the clock strikes 9:00.

00:47:54.580 --> 00:47:58.060 align:middle line:84%
Likes to get them early,
when they\'re feeling fine.

00:47:58.060 --> 00:48:00.980 align:middle line:84%
Everybody gets a
little rag and shine.

00:48:00.980 --> 00:48:04.620 align:middle line:84%
Oh he\'s a great
big bundle of joy.

00:48:04.620 --> 00:48:11.789 align:middle line:84%
He pops a boogie woogie rag,
the Chattanoo-gie shoeshine boy.

00:48:11.789 --> 00:48:12.581 align:middle line:90%
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDS]

00:48:12.581 --> 00:48:15.066 align:middle line:90%
Hey.

00:48:15.066 --> 00:48:18.545 align:middle line:90%
[MERRY MUSIC]

00:48:18.545 --> 00:49:11.227 align:middle line:90%

00:49:11.227 --> 00:49:14.706 align:middle line:90%
[GUESTS CHATTERING]

00:49:14.706 --> 00:49:16.780 align:middle line:90%

00:49:16.780 --> 00:49:22.180 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] first
of all, of course,

00:49:22.180 --> 00:49:24.430 align:middle line:84%
I want to wish the bride
and groom this morning

00:49:24.430 --> 00:49:29.797 align:middle line:84%
every happiness, every success,
and every prosperity too.

00:49:29.797 --> 00:49:31.380 align:middle line:84%
There\'s no harm in
a bit of money too.

00:49:31.380 --> 00:49:32.547 align:middle line:90%
And I want to wish that too.

00:49:32.547 --> 00:49:34.183 align:middle line:90%
[GUESTS LAUGH]

00:49:34.183 --> 00:49:37.860 align:middle line:84%
And please God,
to be very happy.

00:49:37.860 --> 00:49:42.000 align:middle line:84%
You see, it\'s rather
difficult nowadays [INAUDIBLE]

00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.790 align:middle line:84%
increasingly difficult because
of all the nice things--

00:49:45.790 --> 00:49:48.360 align:middle line:84%
the pious things-- a priest
would say at a wedding

00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:49.600 align:middle line:84%
breakfast, there are
certain [INAUDIBLE] sermon

00:49:49.600 --> 00:49:50.590 align:middle line:90%
in the church, you see.

00:49:50.590 --> 00:49:52.050 align:middle line:90%
And we can\'t allow--

00:49:52.050 --> 00:49:54.600 align:middle line:84%
or [INAUDIBLE] is
very limited, you see.

00:49:54.600 --> 00:50:00.178 align:middle line:84%
But I could tell you a few
stories, but the ladies,

00:50:00.178 --> 00:50:01.470 align:middle line:90%
probably the ladies [? are-- ?]

00:50:01.470 --> 00:50:02.012 align:middle line:90%
[? Keener. ?]

00:50:02.012 --> 00:50:04.580 align:middle line:90%
[GUESTS LAUGH]

00:50:04.580 --> 00:50:05.080 align:middle line:90%

00:50:05.080 --> 00:50:08.620 align:middle line:84%
At any rate, I do wish them
every success, every happiness,

00:50:08.620 --> 00:50:09.820 align:middle line:90%
in their future.

00:50:09.820 --> 00:50:12.630 align:middle line:84%
I\'m glad to be-- that I
was privileged to perform

00:50:12.630 --> 00:50:14.265 align:middle line:84%
the ceremony for
them this morning.

00:50:14.265 --> 00:50:17.990 align:middle line:90%
[GUESTS APPLAUD]

00:50:17.990 --> 00:50:20.570 align:middle line:84%
Very happy to be
here this morning,

00:50:20.570 --> 00:50:23.640 align:middle line:84%
and particularly at the
launching of a young couple

00:50:23.640 --> 00:50:27.050 align:middle line:84%
into a new, perhaps the
most important chapter

00:50:27.050 --> 00:50:29.060 align:middle line:84%
of their lives, and
particularly when

00:50:29.060 --> 00:50:32.390 align:middle line:84%
there are two people who are
so aptly suited to each other,

00:50:32.390 --> 00:50:35.840 align:middle line:84%
and two people who have
made such a wonderful start.

00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.570 align:middle line:84%
Perhaps I could just remind
them of the start they have

00:50:38.570 --> 00:50:39.753 align:middle line:90%
made in their married life.

00:50:39.753 --> 00:50:41.420 align:middle line:84%
I\'d like to remind
[? Breda ?] and Harry

00:50:41.420 --> 00:50:44.630 align:middle line:84%
that your first act together
as man and wife this morning

00:50:44.630 --> 00:50:47.150 align:middle line:84%
was to kneel together
in holy mass.

00:50:47.150 --> 00:50:49.640 align:middle line:84%
And your first guest
as man and wife

00:50:49.640 --> 00:50:52.190 align:middle line:84%
was Jesus\' blessed
sacrament, and you

00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:55.280 align:middle line:84%
did this surrounded by and
supported by the good wishes

00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.190 align:middle line:84%
and the prayers of your
relatives and your friends,

00:50:58.190 --> 00:50:59.690 align:middle line:84%
and please God,
that will be only

00:50:59.690 --> 00:51:01.482 align:middle line:84%
a pattern of the rest
of your life to come,

00:51:01.482 --> 00:51:04.570 align:middle line:84%
that you\'ll be always close
to God and close to his altar,

00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:06.560 align:middle line:84%
and always enjoying the
prayers and good wishes

00:51:06.560 --> 00:51:08.302 align:middle line:90%
of your relatives and friends.

00:51:08.302 --> 00:51:09.760 align:middle line:84%
Now I see you\'ve
got a bit serious.

00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:10.427 align:middle line:90%
[GUESTS CHUCKLE]

00:51:10.427 --> 00:51:11.940 align:middle line:90%
You\'re all looking very solemn.

00:51:11.940 --> 00:51:14.390 align:middle line:84%
Just to conclude, I know
that Harry and [? Breda ?]

00:51:14.390 --> 00:51:15.980 align:middle line:84%
are two sensible
people who realize

00:51:15.980 --> 00:51:18.050 align:middle line:84%
that life won\'t be all
wedding breakfasts,

00:51:18.050 --> 00:51:19.610 align:middle line:90%
won\'t be all sunshine.

00:51:19.610 --> 00:51:21.440 align:middle line:84%
We will have our
ups and downs, but I

00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.440 align:middle line:84%
think I can say for everybody
here to Harry and [? Breda, ?]

00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:27.170 align:middle line:84%
that it\'s our prayer and our
good wish this morning for you

00:51:27.170 --> 00:51:29.660 align:middle line:84%
that your moments of difficulty,
and your moments of joy

00:51:29.660 --> 00:51:32.738 align:middle line:84%
and happiness, will be very,
very many and very great.

00:51:32.738 --> 00:51:33.530 align:middle line:90%
God bless you both.

00:51:33.530 --> 00:51:36.925 align:middle line:90%
[GUESTS APPLAUD]

00:51:36.925 --> 00:51:40.790 align:middle line:90%

00:51:40.790 --> 00:51:41.290 align:middle line:90%
Hey!

00:51:41.290 --> 00:51:49.100 align:middle line:84%
(SINGING) [INAUDIBLE] where the
[INAUDIBLE] glisten in the sun.

00:51:49.100 --> 00:51:53.230 align:middle line:84%
Oh, where the [INAUDIBLE]
flesh and the [INAUDIBLE]

00:51:53.230 --> 00:51:57.070 align:middle line:90%
to the echo of the Thompson gun.

00:51:57.070 --> 00:52:03.380 align:middle line:84%
Oh, I heave a sigh my
[INAUDIBLE] I heave a sigh, my

00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:05.270 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE].

00:52:05.270 --> 00:52:13.050 align:middle line:84%
And I heave a sigh my old
gray mare, [INAUDIBLE] now.

00:52:13.050 --> 00:52:16.933 align:middle line:90%
And I heave a sigh my Mary.

00:52:16.933 --> 00:52:20.630 align:middle line:90%
She\'s the girl I do adore.

00:52:20.630 --> 00:52:24.630 align:middle line:84%
And I [INAUDIBLE]
she think of me

00:52:24.630 --> 00:52:27.997 align:middle line:84%
when she hears
[INAUDIBLE] rifles roar.

00:52:27.997 --> 00:52:28.751 align:middle line:90%
(NORMALLY) Hey!

00:52:28.751 --> 00:52:31.090 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:52:31.090 --> 00:52:31.820 align:middle line:90%

00:52:31.820 --> 00:52:33.930 align:middle line:84%
Then shortly after
[INAUDIBLE] around me

00:52:33.930 --> 00:52:35.130 align:middle line:90%
the next couple comes.

00:52:35.130 --> 00:52:38.410 align:middle line:84%
And it goes really simple
music, a 1-2-3, a 1-2-3,

00:52:38.410 --> 00:52:41.120 align:middle line:84%
a [INAUDIBLE] We can do it all
together, and then [INAUDIBLE]

00:52:41.120 --> 00:52:42.044 align:middle line:90%
[DANCERS CHATTER]

00:52:42.044 --> 00:52:45.258 align:middle line:90%
[PIANO MUSIC]

00:52:45.258 --> 00:52:48.751 align:middle line:90%
[RHYTHMIC FOOTSTEPS CLACKING]

00:52:48.751 --> 00:52:50.747 align:middle line:90%
Three, go!

00:52:50.747 --> 00:52:54.240 align:middle line:90%
[CLACKING AND MERRY CHATTER]

00:52:54.240 --> 00:53:55.617 align:middle line:90%

00:53:55.617 --> 00:53:59.110 align:middle line:90%
[HANDS CLAPPING]

00:53:59.110 --> 00:54:04.100 align:middle line:90%

00:54:04.100 --> 00:54:07.593 align:middle line:90%
[WOMAN WHOOPS]

00:54:07.593 --> 00:54:11.086 align:middle line:90%
[SCATTERED WHOOPING]

00:54:11.086 --> 00:54:13.082 align:middle line:90%

00:54:13.082 --> 00:54:14.579 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING AND LAUGHTER]

00:54:14.579 --> 00:54:17.573 align:middle line:90%
[DANCERS APPLAUDING]

00:54:17.573 --> 00:54:21.066 align:middle line:84%
[GUESTS SINGING, SLOW PIANO
MUSIC]

00:54:21.066 --> 00:55:04.120 align:middle line:90%

00:55:04.120 --> 00:55:06.340 align:middle line:84%
I feel that, well,
my particular talent

00:55:06.340 --> 00:55:09.670 align:middle line:84%
lies in talking my head
off and cracking a joke

00:55:09.670 --> 00:55:12.210 align:middle line:90%
and singing a song, and that--

00:55:12.210 --> 00:55:14.795 align:middle line:84%
well, this is what God
gave me to work with,

00:55:14.795 --> 00:55:16.420 align:middle line:84%
and this is what I\'ve
got to work with.

00:55:16.420 --> 00:55:19.017 align:middle line:84%
And I find that in
general, it does get me

00:55:19.017 --> 00:55:21.100 align:middle line:84%
across to that particular
section of the community

00:55:21.100 --> 00:55:23.630 align:middle line:90%
that I aim particularly at--

00:55:23.630 --> 00:55:27.580 align:middle line:84%
the younger folk and the
people of that age group

00:55:27.580 --> 00:55:31.810 align:middle line:84%
who look for, in their
priest, this camaraderie

00:55:31.810 --> 00:55:38.550 align:middle line:84%
and this ability to understand
their forms of entertainment,

00:55:38.550 --> 00:55:42.450 align:middle line:84%
their likes and dislikes,
and one who you might say

00:55:42.450 --> 00:55:46.030 align:middle line:90%
seems to be on their wavelength.

00:55:46.030 --> 00:55:47.730 align:middle line:90%
Well, we\'re not against sex.

00:55:47.730 --> 00:55:49.590 align:middle line:84%
I mean, don\'t be
ridiculous, you know?

00:55:49.590 --> 00:55:51.710 align:middle line:90%
I think it\'s a fact.

00:55:51.710 --> 00:55:54.900 align:middle line:84%
Our teaching, we try to
elevate sex and place it

00:55:54.900 --> 00:55:58.530 align:middle line:84%
in its proper perspective,
give it its proper value.

00:55:58.530 --> 00:56:03.572 align:middle line:84%
Nowadays is so sort of debased,
and it\'s tossed around.

00:56:03.572 --> 00:56:05.280 align:middle line:84%
You take, for instance,
this young couple

00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.630 align:middle line:90%
who were married this morning.

00:56:08.630 --> 00:56:12.560 align:middle line:84%
Their attitude, their
training, towards sex

00:56:12.560 --> 00:56:14.490 align:middle line:84%
will give it its proper
place in their lives

00:56:14.490 --> 00:56:18.740 align:middle line:84%
as the physical expression of
a love that\'s genuinely there

00:56:18.740 --> 00:56:23.420 align:middle line:84%
between them, and the proper
restraint in the use of it,

00:56:23.420 --> 00:56:25.940 align:middle line:84%
and it will give
them more enjoyment

00:56:25.940 --> 00:56:27.360 align:middle line:84%
than the ordinary
person whom you

00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:28.610 align:middle line:90%
get in some of the big cities.

00:56:28.610 --> 00:56:30.630 align:middle line:84%
Now I\'ve worked in
London recently,

00:56:30.630 --> 00:56:35.240 align:middle line:84%
and tradition there now is, you
meet a girl, you take her home,

00:56:35.240 --> 00:56:36.590 align:middle line:90%
you go to bed with her.

00:56:36.590 --> 00:56:39.230 align:middle line:84%
But celibacy is a
problem for the priest.

00:56:39.230 --> 00:56:42.710 align:middle line:84%
I mean, I personally
would like to be married.

00:56:42.710 --> 00:56:44.600 align:middle line:90%
I would like to have a family.

00:56:44.600 --> 00:56:49.230 align:middle line:84%
But this is the sacrifices
our vows were made,

00:56:49.230 --> 00:56:50.502 align:middle line:90%
in accepting the priesthood.

00:56:50.502 --> 00:56:52.460 align:middle line:84%
I\'ve seven years to think
about it, seven years

00:56:52.460 --> 00:56:54.990 align:middle line:84%
to prepare and
train myself for it.

00:56:54.990 --> 00:56:58.100 align:middle line:84%
And I believe that I get such
a tremendous power from God,

00:56:58.100 --> 00:57:03.080 align:middle line:84%
in part, recreate his
body in the [? altar. ?]

00:57:03.080 --> 00:57:06.633 align:middle line:84%
But you know, I give him
back a gift in return.

00:57:06.633 --> 00:57:08.300 align:middle line:84%
Now to someone you
love and love deeply,

00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:10.070 align:middle line:84%
and to whom you owe
that, you don\'t just

00:57:10.070 --> 00:57:11.750 align:middle line:84%
give him sixpence worth,
or a shilling\'s worth.

00:57:11.750 --> 00:57:13.930 align:middle line:84%
Give him something that
hurts, something you feel.

00:57:13.930 --> 00:57:18.230 align:middle line:84%
And if I didn\'t miss marriage,
and all that goes with it,

00:57:18.230 --> 00:57:21.375 align:middle line:90%
it wouldn\'t be a sacrifice.

00:57:21.375 --> 00:57:23.700 align:middle line:90%
Attack [INAUDIBLE]

00:57:23.700 --> 00:57:24.950 align:middle line:90%
[CHILDREN GIGGLING]

00:57:24.950 --> 00:57:26.700 align:middle line:90%
You see now, [INAUDIBLE].

00:57:26.700 --> 00:57:36.142 align:middle line:90%

00:57:36.142 --> 00:57:37.850 align:middle line:84%
Come on, put out your
hand, [INAUDIBLE]..

00:57:37.850 --> 00:57:39.711 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:57:39.711 --> 00:57:40.760 align:middle line:90%
Give him a [INAUDIBLE].

00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:42.078 align:middle line:90%
Come on, ginger.

00:57:42.078 --> 00:57:43.950 align:middle line:90%
[CHILDREN GIGGLE]

00:57:43.950 --> 00:57:44.890 align:middle line:90%
Come on, [? Bruce. ?]

00:57:44.890 --> 00:57:45.460 align:middle line:90%
Come on, [? Boyd. ?]

00:57:45.460 --> 00:57:45.960 align:middle line:90%
Step.

00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:46.740 align:middle line:90%
Right, there.

00:57:46.740 --> 00:57:48.102 align:middle line:90%
Rush him.

00:57:48.102 --> 00:57:49.295 align:middle line:90%
Keep your eye on him.

00:57:49.295 --> 00:57:49.920 align:middle line:90%
Come on, Bruce.

00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:51.886 align:middle line:84%
Keep that mouth
shut, [INAUDIBLE]..

00:57:51.886 --> 00:57:54.790 align:middle line:90%

00:57:54.790 --> 00:57:55.620 align:middle line:90%
Move down.

00:57:55.620 --> 00:57:59.160 align:middle line:90%
Move down, come down.

00:57:59.160 --> 00:57:59.660 align:middle line:90%
Go ahead.

00:57:59.660 --> 00:58:05.490 align:middle line:84%
[GENTLE WHOOPING] You
don\'t go down [INAUDIBLE]..

00:58:05.490 --> 00:58:06.236 align:middle line:90%
That\'s it.

00:58:06.236 --> 00:58:08.230 align:middle line:84%
Don\'t turn your
face away from him.

00:58:08.230 --> 00:58:08.750 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:58:08.750 --> 00:58:09.890 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] a bit
of work sometime.

00:58:09.890 --> 00:58:10.225 align:middle line:90%
Isn\'t it?

00:58:10.225 --> 00:58:10.630 align:middle line:90%
Eh?

00:58:10.630 --> 00:58:10.880 align:middle line:90%
Long

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:11.420 align:middle line:90%
Time no see.

00:58:11.420 --> 00:58:13.475 align:middle line:84%
You must be expecting a
bit of business, are you?

00:58:13.475 --> 00:58:14.255 align:middle line:90%
Hello, father.

00:58:14.255 --> 00:58:14.380 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:58:14.380 --> 00:58:15.210 align:middle line:90%
Three of them, is it?

00:58:15.210 --> 00:58:15.480 align:middle line:90%
How are you?

00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:16.030 align:middle line:90%
How are you?

00:58:16.030 --> 00:58:17.190 align:middle line:90%
How are you, father?

00:58:17.190 --> 00:58:17.690 align:middle line:90%
You look--

00:58:17.690 --> 00:58:18.523 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:58:18.523 --> 00:58:19.680 align:middle line:90%
--down there.

00:58:19.680 --> 00:58:21.862 align:middle line:84%
Are you expecting a lot
of business here, or what?

00:58:21.862 --> 00:58:23.370 align:middle line:90%
We\'re getting up a bit of stock.

00:58:23.370 --> 00:58:25.480 align:middle line:90%
Getting up a bit of stock?

00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:26.730 align:middle line:90%
Well, what were you thinking--

00:58:26.730 --> 00:58:26.830 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:58:26.830 --> 00:58:27.450 align:middle line:90%
Nice to see you.

00:58:27.450 --> 00:58:27.740 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:58:27.740 --> 00:58:29.400 align:middle line:84%
I hope I\'ve enough
cigarettes for you.

00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:30.090 align:middle line:90%
Do you smoke?

00:58:30.090 --> 00:58:30.590 align:middle line:90%
[MAN COUGHS]

00:58:30.590 --> 00:58:31.140 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:58:31.140 --> 00:58:32.370 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:58:32.370 --> 00:58:33.480 align:middle line:90%
Come up, take a break.

00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:34.010 align:middle line:90%
Thanks.

00:58:34.010 --> 00:58:35.010 align:middle line:90%
They\'re not cheap ones--

00:58:35.010 --> 00:58:35.843 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:58:35.843 --> 00:58:37.014 align:middle line:90%
--they got at [INAUDIBLE]

00:58:37.014 --> 00:58:37.514 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:58:37.514 --> 00:58:40.056 align:middle line:84%
This time of the year, you\'ve
people coming home on holidays,

00:58:40.056 --> 00:58:41.250 align:middle line:90%
you know, from [INAUDIBLE].

00:58:41.250 --> 00:58:43.600 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:58:43.600 --> 00:58:44.495 align:middle line:90%

00:58:44.495 --> 00:58:45.200 align:middle line:90%
There you are.

00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:46.973 align:middle line:84%
Go on, you can [INAUDIBLE]
you\'ve had two.

00:58:46.973 --> 00:58:47.940 align:middle line:90%
[MEN LAUGH]

00:58:47.940 --> 00:58:49.540 align:middle line:90%
Remember that old match we had?

00:58:49.540 --> 00:58:50.040 align:middle line:90%
Yes.

00:58:50.040 --> 00:58:52.082 align:middle line:84%
I was thinking we run it
again, we might make it.

00:58:52.082 --> 00:58:53.500 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] this
was a great game.

00:58:53.500 --> 00:58:57.220 align:middle line:84%
That Charlie still accuses us
of having a few ringers in,

00:58:57.220 --> 00:58:57.720 align:middle line:90%
you know?

00:58:57.720 --> 00:58:58.260 align:middle line:90%
I know, yeah.

00:58:58.260 --> 00:59:00.710 align:middle line:84%
But every man who was there was
a genuinely ordained priest.

00:59:00.710 --> 00:59:02.410 align:middle line:84%
They sure seemed some very
experienced footballers,

00:59:02.410 --> 00:59:03.360 align:middle line:90%
black and blue.

00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:04.902 align:middle line:84%
But I trot out in
the pitch, you see.

00:59:04.902 --> 00:59:07.500 align:middle line:84%
You\'re expecting to see a few
bald-y married men, you know?

00:59:07.500 --> 00:59:08.250 align:middle line:90%
And who comes out?

00:59:08.250 --> 00:59:10.708 align:middle line:84%
Joey Wilson who played for the
League of Ireland that year,

00:59:10.708 --> 00:59:11.370 align:middle line:90%
trotting along.

00:59:11.370 --> 00:59:13.495 align:middle line:84%
But do you remember the
time he came down the wing?

00:59:13.495 --> 00:59:15.900 align:middle line:84%
So just he was coming,
I gave him the hip.

00:59:15.900 --> 00:59:17.790 align:middle line:84%
And he hit the
railing with a bang!

00:59:17.790 --> 00:59:19.170 align:middle line:90%
Oh, I thought I had him killed.

00:59:19.170 --> 00:59:22.102 align:middle line:84%
And all the crowd, every time
I twitch the ball out, was boo!

00:59:22.102 --> 00:59:24.026 align:middle line:90%
[MEN LAUGH]

00:59:24.026 --> 00:59:25.140 align:middle line:90%
It was great.

00:59:25.140 --> 00:59:26.740 align:middle line:84%
Apparently, he
headed a few goals.

00:59:26.740 --> 00:59:28.147 align:middle line:90%
Wait a minute.

00:59:28.147 --> 00:59:29.417 align:middle line:90%
Look at that.

00:59:29.417 --> 00:59:30.500 align:middle line:90%
Head the ball [INAUDIBLE].

00:59:30.500 --> 00:59:33.290 align:middle line:84%
[LAUGHS] Fellows,
no, seriously though,

00:59:33.290 --> 00:59:35.695 align:middle line:84%
apart [INAUDIBLE] joking,
that I often thought,

00:59:35.695 --> 00:59:38.070 align:middle line:84%
that you fellows, do you get
callous towards death at all

00:59:38.070 --> 00:59:38.820 align:middle line:90%
when you\'re--

00:59:38.820 --> 00:59:39.540 align:middle line:90%
Not at all.

00:59:39.540 --> 00:59:40.040 align:middle line:90%
I mean--

00:59:40.040 --> 00:59:41.010 align:middle line:90%
Well, you help at times--

00:59:41.010 --> 00:59:41.790 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:59:41.790 --> 00:59:43.380 align:middle line:84%
No, I\'ve noticed now when
I come up to do funerals

00:59:43.380 --> 00:59:45.690 align:middle line:84%
and that, even though you
must be doing three, four,

00:59:45.690 --> 00:59:48.230 align:middle line:84%
five a day, you still all
stand by for the prayers

00:59:48.230 --> 00:59:52.160 align:middle line:84%
and you still keep
silence and reverent,

00:59:52.160 --> 00:59:53.660 align:middle line:84%
I imagine you\'re
so used to it, it\'d

00:59:53.660 --> 00:59:55.440 align:middle line:84%
be just another job-- you\'d
walk off and have a smoke

00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:56.240 align:middle line:90%
or something.

00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:59.240 align:middle line:84%
Do you still feel upset
when you see relatives

00:59:59.240 --> 01:00:00.550 align:middle line:90%
upset at a grave and that?

01:00:00.550 --> 01:00:01.590 align:middle line:90%
No, really no.

01:00:01.590 --> 01:00:02.410 align:middle line:90%
Sometimes you do.

01:00:02.410 --> 01:00:03.480 align:middle line:84%
No, it\'s only a
matter of a job when

01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:04.730 align:middle line:90%
you\'re doing it for strangers.

01:00:04.730 --> 01:00:05.520 align:middle line:90%
When you do it for strangers?

01:00:05.520 --> 01:00:06.620 align:middle line:90%
Who\'ll do your own, though?

01:00:06.620 --> 01:00:07.260 align:middle line:90%
You feel it more.

01:00:07.260 --> 01:00:08.430 align:middle line:84%
I suppose there\'s
one last [INAUDIBLE]

01:00:08.430 --> 01:00:09.720 align:middle line:84%
But you can\'t do it with
everybody [INAUDIBLE]..

01:00:09.720 --> 01:00:10.077 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

01:00:10.077 --> 01:00:11.000 align:middle line:90%
I know.

01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:14.350 align:middle line:84%
But listen, I suppose I\'d better
let you get on with the work.

01:00:14.350 --> 01:00:15.447 align:middle line:90%
We\'ve [INAUDIBLE].

01:00:15.447 --> 01:00:16.530 align:middle line:90%
Because if a fellow says--

01:00:16.530 --> 01:00:16.780 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

01:00:16.780 --> 01:00:17.610 align:middle line:90%
--company of father.

01:00:17.610 --> 01:00:18.990 align:middle line:84%
If you don\'t do the
work in this place,

01:00:18.990 --> 01:00:20.101 align:middle line:90%
it\'d be a grave situation.

01:00:20.101 --> 01:00:20.643 align:middle line:90%
[MEN CHUCKLE]

01:00:20.643 --> 01:00:22.100 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

01:00:22.100 --> 01:00:25.200 align:middle line:84%
There\'d be no-- no
place to put them.

01:00:25.200 --> 01:00:28.200 align:middle line:90%

01:00:28.200 --> 01:00:31.700 align:middle line:90%
[METAL RASPING AND CLACKING]

01:00:31.700 --> 01:00:38.700 align:middle line:90%

01:00:38.700 --> 01:00:44.500 align:middle line:84%
I got married when I was 21,
and I had one every year.

01:00:44.500 --> 01:00:49.760 align:middle line:84%
And then we were married
three years without a baby,

01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:53.450 align:middle line:84%
and during that time, we were
practicing birth control,

01:00:53.450 --> 01:00:55.630 align:middle line:90%
or coitus interruptus.

01:00:55.630 --> 01:00:59.390 align:middle line:84%
But with the safe
period, you know.

01:00:59.390 --> 01:01:03.140 align:middle line:84%
I felt all the time
guilty, and I hated it.

01:01:03.140 --> 01:01:06.380 align:middle line:84%
Well, I went to confession,
and I told the priest

01:01:06.380 --> 01:01:10.230 align:middle line:84%
that I hated it, and I felt
I was going mad and all.

01:01:10.230 --> 01:01:12.840 align:middle line:84%
And do you know what he
actually told me to do?

01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:16.830 align:middle line:84%
Go home, like a good child,
and move into another room,

01:01:16.830 --> 01:01:19.830 align:middle line:84%
because as long as you\'re
going to be sleeping with him,

01:01:19.830 --> 01:01:23.110 align:middle line:90%
you\'re the occasion of his sin.

01:01:23.110 --> 01:01:25.760 align:middle line:84%
Well, I hadn\'t a hope of
holding on to this baby

01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:28.800 align:middle line:84%
because he was losing so
much blood and everything.

01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:30.770 align:middle line:84%
I don\'t really feel they
should have taken it

01:01:30.770 --> 01:01:33.750 align:middle line:84%
from me, because I
mean, in a lot of ways

01:01:33.750 --> 01:01:36.440 align:middle line:84%
it helped me an awful lot
and the bit of suffering

01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.500 align:middle line:90%
in the world.

01:01:38.500 --> 01:01:41.630 align:middle line:90%
I do, I do.

01:01:41.630 --> 01:01:44.920 align:middle line:84%
So then I lost a baby, and
wasn\'t aware of anything,

01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:45.910 align:middle line:90%
and I came home.

01:01:45.910 --> 01:01:48.280 align:middle line:84%
And for a while, I
certainly wasn\'t interested

01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:51.490 align:middle line:84%
in sex or anything, because I
was too terrified of getting

01:01:51.490 --> 01:01:53.410 align:middle line:90%
pregnant again.

01:01:53.410 --> 01:01:55.810 align:middle line:84%
Now, most housewives
couldn\'t afford

01:01:55.810 --> 01:01:58.830 align:middle line:84%
to go to a psychiatrist
or an analyst or anything.

01:01:58.830 --> 01:02:01.980 align:middle line:84%
And even if they could, I think
they\'d go to a priest first.

01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:06.180 align:middle line:84%
And he\'d tell you, go down
and offer it up and all,

01:02:06.180 --> 01:02:09.660 align:middle line:84%
like a good child, and do
the nine Fridays or a novena,

01:02:09.660 --> 01:02:14.260 align:middle line:84%
or something or other, and
I say a prayer for you,

01:02:14.260 --> 01:02:17.470 align:middle line:90%
and that\'s it.

01:02:17.470 --> 01:02:20.080 align:middle line:84%
Work hard so you
won\'t be a-- you know,

01:02:20.080 --> 01:02:22.920 align:middle line:84%
and go out and do the
garden, and this and that,

01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:24.534 align:middle line:90%
so you won\'t--

01:02:24.534 --> 01:02:29.590 align:middle line:84%
[TUTS] [SIGHS] Anyway, they\'re
always on the men\'s side,

01:02:29.590 --> 01:02:31.880 align:middle line:84%
and so the doctors
in this country.

01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:33.380 align:middle line:84%
They think women
should sort of grin

01:02:33.380 --> 01:02:37.540 align:middle line:84%
and bear it, and put up with
it, because we\'re Catholics,

01:02:37.540 --> 01:02:41.830 align:middle line:84%
and they shouldn\'t be making it
harder for the men to sort of--

01:02:41.830 --> 01:02:44.310 align:middle line:84%
you know wouldn\'t
be committing sin

01:02:44.310 --> 01:02:48.180 align:middle line:84%
by having coitus
interruptus or something.

01:02:48.180 --> 01:02:49.470 align:middle line:90%
We\'re practicing Catholic.

01:02:49.470 --> 01:02:53.740 align:middle line:84%
And I don\'t think
that if I were to get

01:02:53.740 --> 01:02:55.490 align:middle line:84%
in trouble tomorrow
at this stage

01:02:55.490 --> 01:02:59.508 align:middle line:84%
that I\'d go down to
a priest for advice.

01:02:59.508 --> 01:03:02.966 align:middle line:84%
[DISTANT RUMBLING, SEABIRDS
CALLING]

01:03:02.966 --> 01:03:08.400 align:middle line:90%

01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.750 align:middle line:84%
Hot soup, flag days,
and raffle tickets

01:03:10.750 --> 01:03:14.060 align:middle line:84%
are still the favorite solutions
of many in authority in Ireland

01:03:14.060 --> 01:03:16.520 align:middle line:90%
for all social problems.

01:03:16.520 --> 01:03:18.020 align:middle line:84%
But there are signs
that Ireland has

01:03:18.020 --> 01:03:20.690 align:middle line:84%
begun to take the first
steps in breaking free

01:03:20.690 --> 01:03:23.060 align:middle line:84%
of a political and
clerical authority

01:03:23.060 --> 01:03:25.850 align:middle line:84%
which, for half a century,
had been characterized

01:03:25.850 --> 01:03:27.920 align:middle line:84%
in its approach
to human problems

01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:30.475 align:middle line:84%
by a profound and
stubborn ignorance.

01:03:30.475 --> 01:03:34.120 align:middle line:90%

01:03:34.120 --> 01:03:37.240 align:middle line:84%
At that time, Dublin
was a much smaller city.

01:03:37.240 --> 01:03:39.460 align:middle line:84%
Everybody knew
everybody else, and one

01:03:39.460 --> 01:03:41.240 align:middle line:84%
felt, when a group
sat down on a bar

01:03:41.240 --> 01:03:43.390 align:middle line:84%
to talk about things
and Dublin, one

01:03:43.390 --> 01:03:45.160 align:middle line:90%
felt wrapped in by the city.

01:03:45.160 --> 01:03:48.710 align:middle line:84%
One felt as if the city was
around one, like a cloak.

01:03:48.710 --> 01:03:50.486 align:middle line:90%
Now that\'s changed.

01:03:50.486 --> 01:03:59.470 align:middle line:84%
All this new plastic material,
all this machine regulation

01:03:59.470 --> 01:04:05.200 align:middle line:84%
of the whole thing, and
distribution and [? gin, ?]

01:04:05.200 --> 01:04:10.420 align:middle line:84%
and especially these pop
orchestras, these jazz bands,

01:04:10.420 --> 01:04:14.590 align:middle line:84%
these pop bands, the strum,
strum of these guitars,

01:04:14.590 --> 01:04:16.790 align:middle line:90%
giving those horrible noises?

01:04:16.790 --> 01:04:17.400 align:middle line:90%
Oh, no.

01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:18.640 align:middle line:90%
I think it awful.

01:04:18.640 --> 01:04:22.330 align:middle line:90%
I think it\'s dehumanized, and--

01:04:22.330 --> 01:04:25.330 align:middle line:84%
well, I suppose,
to give it its due,

01:04:25.330 --> 01:04:29.980 align:middle line:84%
it is a [? big ?] way
from what was into what is

01:04:29.980 --> 01:04:32.290 align:middle line:84%
and what will be, and
I suppose this will all

01:04:32.290 --> 01:04:34.780 align:middle line:84%
acquire characters,
will acquire traditions,

01:04:34.780 --> 01:04:37.840 align:middle line:84%
will acquire a mellowness
which is not there yet.

01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.340 align:middle line:84%
I think that\'s
what\'s wrong with us,

01:04:39.340 --> 01:04:42.580 align:middle line:84%
really, that we\'re at the
beginning of a new age,

01:04:42.580 --> 01:04:44.770 align:middle line:84%
really a new, wonderful
age in the world,

01:04:44.770 --> 01:04:45.910 align:middle line:90%
but at the beginning of it.

01:04:45.910 --> 01:04:50.060 align:middle line:84%
And therefore, it hasn\'t
any, so to speak, tradition

01:04:50.060 --> 01:04:51.320 align:middle line:90%
or character about it yet.

01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:54.010 align:middle line:84%
But it\'s acquiring it,
every moment, every day.

01:04:54.010 --> 01:04:58.245 align:middle line:90%
And I wish it well.

01:04:58.245 --> 01:04:58.990 align:middle line:90%
I wish it well--

01:04:58.990 --> 01:05:00.310 align:middle line:90%
I won\'t see it.

01:05:00.310 --> 01:05:02.144 align:middle line:84%
That\'s about all I
can say about it.

01:05:02.144 --> 01:05:05.553 align:middle line:84%
[MUSIC - DUBLINERS, \"THE HOLY
GROUND\"]

01:05:05.553 --> 01:05:11.710 align:middle line:90%

01:05:11.710 --> 01:05:12.760 align:middle line:90%
Fine girl you are.

01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:16.269 align:middle line:90%
(SINGING) Adieu to you my Dinah.

01:05:16.269 --> 01:05:20.000 align:middle line:90%
A thousand times adieu.

01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.233 align:middle line:84%
We\'re going away from the
holy ground, and the girls

01:05:24.233 --> 01:05:26.772 align:middle line:90%
that we love true.

01:05:26.772 --> 01:05:31.763 align:middle line:84%
We will sail the salt
sea over, and then

01:05:31.763 --> 01:05:37.210 align:middle line:84%
return for sure to see
again the girls we love

01:05:37.210 --> 01:05:40.070 align:middle line:90%
and the holy ground once more.

01:05:40.070 --> 01:05:44.340 align:middle line:84%
Fine girl you are,
the girl I do adore,

01:05:44.340 --> 01:05:50.830 align:middle line:84%
and still I live in hopes to
see the holy ground once more.

01:05:50.830 --> 01:05:51.830 align:middle line:90%
Fine girl you are.

01:05:51.830 --> 01:05:55.621 align:middle line:90%
I see the storm arising.

01:05:55.621 --> 01:05:58.490 align:middle line:90%
I see it coming soon.

01:05:58.490 --> 01:06:05.360 align:middle line:84%
And the sky, it is so cloudy
you can scarcely see the blue.

01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:09.430 align:middle line:84%
And the good old ship,
she was tossing about.

01:06:09.430 --> 01:06:13.647 align:middle line:84%
The rigging was all
tore, and still I

01:06:13.647 --> 01:06:18.320 align:middle line:84%
live with hope to see the
holy ground once more.

01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:23.110 align:middle line:84%
Fine girl you are,
the girl I do adore,

01:06:23.110 --> 01:06:28.790 align:middle line:84%
and still I live in hopes to
see the holy ground once more.

01:06:28.790 --> 01:06:29.970 align:middle line:90%
Fine girl you are.

01:06:29.970 --> 01:06:36.430 align:middle line:84%
Now the storm is over,
and we are safe on shore,

01:06:36.430 --> 01:06:41.184 align:middle line:84%
we will drink a toast to the
holy ground and the girls

01:06:41.184 --> 01:06:43.270 align:middle line:90%
that we adore.

01:06:43.270 --> 01:06:47.070 align:middle line:84%
We will drink strong
ale and porter

01:06:47.070 --> 01:06:50.200 align:middle line:90%
and make the rafters roar.

01:06:50.200 --> 01:06:56.230 align:middle line:84%
And when our money is all
spent, we\'ll go to sea for more.

01:06:56.230 --> 01:06:58.380 align:middle line:90%
Fine girl you are.

01:06:58.380 --> 01:07:04.384 align:middle line:90%