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They arrive and say: \"What
are you going to take?\".

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What will I take? My life is in there.

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There\'s always a project,

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all the time there is
an action that directs

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to \"here is not the place
for you, \'gamboeiro\',

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for you, black woman,
for you, black man,

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for you, fisherman, to live\".

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It\'s hard for you to just

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cut the root of a plant

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and want her to live somewhere else.

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When they leave,

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they have one intention:
to expel those who bother.

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And we bother.

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When people look at me they say:

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\"Why don\'t you go live somewhere else\",

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The first thing I say is:

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\"I am the city center of Sao Paulo\".

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We are saying that the city is also ours.

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A drama for millions of Brazilians,

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homelessness, abandoned properties

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and people sleeping on the street.

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How to solve this problem

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so that everyone has the right to a roof?

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So now 4:48, I\'m heading home,

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I\'m going to get my daughter,
then I\'m going to get my son.

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And when I get home, I\'ll make dinner,

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because the kids, everyone is excited,

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everyone is hungry.

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Every day, I stop here to
pick up some blackberries.

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It\'s very good.

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Sometimes I\'m late for work because of this.

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I\'m downtown.

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It\'s all close to my house.

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School near my house,

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everything I need is here.

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You have your whole life where you live.

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Then suddenly you have to change

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your whole life,
which doesn\'t just include you...

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It\'s not a matter of space,
it\'s infrastructure.

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You have a market, a bakery,

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have something closer,

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not having to climb a slope,
a gigantic hill,

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or having to take a bus

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to do certain things. No way.

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Princess!

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Hey love!

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Bye thank you.

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Let\'s go.

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Give me a hand. jump.

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Mom doesn\'t get kiss?

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Did you say goodbye to him?

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- Did you say goodbye? Goodbye!
-Goodbye.

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And when we talked about downtown,

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we talked about noise,

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at certain points
that are not good to live in,

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but lately they are making more
and more buildings,

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are giving more
and more options to people

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who have greater purchasing power

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to be here.

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When they arrive, we leave.

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Feel free.

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And what did you do?

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Did you play?

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You ate?

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-How was your class?
-Good.

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-Did you do what you shouldn\'t today?
-Hm! No!

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-You did it.
-No mother.

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Mom, I swear to you.

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Are you swearing me that you behaved?

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I swear.

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And the teacher wants to talk
to me for nothing, right?

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Here we are in Gamboa de Baixo,

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we are in front of the
Bay of All Saints,

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in the city center.

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I am part of the biggest
family in Gamboa,

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the Caminha family, and my
grandmother Vitalina da Silva

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she was a midwife, so part
of Gamboa\'s children

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came into the world at the
hands of my grandmother.

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We usually say that
this title of \"from Below\"

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comes from the 60\'s, which
is when it is built

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ave. Lafaiete Coutinho,
which is Av. of the contour.

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With the construction of Av. of contour,

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we were stranded, trapped

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and then we got into
this abandonment thing,

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this idea of ​​marginal community.

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With the arrival of these
piers and these buildings,

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Gamboa was tight.

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If we weren\'t careful,

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we might have disappeared
from the map.

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When we talk about the right to housing,

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we don\'t associate it with the idea
of ​​having a house concretely, only,

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but having a well located house,

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that is, having the right to the city,

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from access to public equipment,

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private,

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public services, transport

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that allows the person to
have access to employment.

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Why do they go to the Center?

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There\'s a job logic here, right?

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The guy takes the bus
here and goes to work.

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Where will he work?

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I am now a teacher and researcher

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at the Faculty of Architecture and
Urbanism at the University of Sao Paulo

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and I coordinate a laboratory
called Lab Cidade,

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which has two main projects:

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one that calls \"Observe SP\",

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which observes urban
policies in Sao Paulo,

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and another that is
\"Observatory of Removals\".

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Removal issues are very important

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to indicate the fulfillment of rights,

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right to housing,
right to the city.

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And it is an especially sensitive topic,

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because it catches exactly who is affected

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by the policies underway in the city, often,

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policies promoted by the state itself.

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So, a widening of the way,

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the arrival of a subway,

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or even a housing policy.

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Today, these affected populations

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by removals, involuntary
forced displacement,

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as we call,

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are not noticed in the city.

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It\'s like it\'s not happening.

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So, first, the initiative of
the Observatory of Removals

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was to give visibility
to these processes,

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who is being affected.

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Don\'t give me that now,
it\'s not the time.

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I have to register, otherwise,
I will lose my place.

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Oh, really?

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Give this \"thing\" here
to the lottery boy

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and this one you keep it,
just to confirm the name.

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Did you hear?

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Take it.

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My first repossession

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was in the old Zack
Narchi favela, in Santana,

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very close to Carandiru.

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As a child, I didn\'t
understand much,

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but, all of a sudden,
I found myself in a shed.

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A city hall worker asked

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\"You have to leave.\"

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My mother, seeing herself on the street,
a friend of hers came and said:

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\"Look, there\'s a favela
that\'s starting now.\"

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When we got there, there
were five shacks.

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It wasn\'t that immensity it is now.

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We didn\'t have any infrastructure,

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there was no sewage,
electricity, water, nothing.

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And then things started to
evolve in the favela,

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more people arrived.

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It was 20 years in the \"Moinho\".

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I remember that every expropriation

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people went there.

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The housing policy,

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when it comes to a housing solution,

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it ends up building what we call

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a single policy

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which is a policy of building new units.

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It serves families who can buy this product,

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which, in general, is not who was removed,

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and it promotes what we are calling

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\"permanent transience\".

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The poorest families build their houses

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several times.

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It\'s a \"where am I going?\" situation,

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\"Where am I going to take my kids?

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What do I do with my stuff?
How do I transport it?\"

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A great fire destroys part

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of the Moinho slum,
in the center of São Paulo.

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A neighboring building was also hit...

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Had the first fire

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and it didn\'t affect my house.

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And we went through a second fire.

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That second fire took my mother\'s house,

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my sister\'s house, I lost everything I had.

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We spent a month on the street.

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It\'s that story: the city hall would see

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what they could do for us.

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I went to live in a pension

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and I was doing very well,
but then I lost my job.

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Then my friend told me

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that she was going to do an
occupation on Av. White River.

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When I ended up in the occupation,

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it\'s because I got pregnant

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and had been sent away.

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To get another job, pregnant

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it would be very difficult.

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Most people who are in occupation

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it\'s for lack of opportunity

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women who lost their jobs,

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who are beaten by their husbands,

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there are many teenagers who
are thrown on the street

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by their families,

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many foreigners who, when
they arrive here,

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think that Sao Paulo is
the land of opportunity,

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and it is not so.

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You don\'t arrive in São Paulo working.

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It\'s the only option you have.

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Either you stay there, or
you stay on the street.

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So imagine that you are a woman

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with children and there
is nowhere to live.

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You keep going with your
kids and changing schools,

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not being able to send
the child to school,

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can\'t work, no income,

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suffering a kind of daily violence.

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Creating a kind of trauma,

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they are getting so calloused

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from situations of violence...

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There are those who suffer

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and there are those that react,

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with their finger raised to speak:

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\"Look, I will not be removed,

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no one will take me away from this place.\"

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Think...

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this Av. Contour stopped, constantly,

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the whole population up there,

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and the traffic stopped for two hours,

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because Gamboa was screaming.

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We disturbed the city, we called attention.

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Organize as an association,

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organize as a housing movement,

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It was the women\'s strategy

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to defend their community,

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defend their culture

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and their husbands too.

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There are several researches
on housing movement

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that point to women at
the base of the movement.

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When we get to 92

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and there is an outbreak
of cholera in Salvador,

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they realize that we
were very abandoned,

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with the issue of basic
sanitation, infrastructure,

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service by public bodies.

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Our staircase was made of clay,

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we had no paving on any street.

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So, during this period,
women organize themselves

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to fight, to denounce

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that people were dying with cholera.

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And I go along with it.

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We are arriving here in the association.

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It\'s me and Lu and 10 more members.

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We are 12 in total.

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It is here in the association where we perform

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our mobilization meetings,

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we do our chats

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and where the great activities also take place.

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Where do we bring the residents

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to mobilize, to organize the actions

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in defense of the community.

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On the 21st now, the agenda is ZEIS,

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the regulation of ZEIS, the construction of...

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of the commission.

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We need to mobilize the residents of each area,

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street resistance,
Milton Sapucaia street,

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Rua Rosa Leal, high and low.

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we managed to guarantee

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a partial urbanization of the community,

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placement of a sanitary unit in all homes,

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sewage network, piped water.

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Think after that,

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after it made a partial and deficient urbanization,

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did they continue?

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They did it and spoke:

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\"Now it\'s up to you,
I want to see if you can\".

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We were abandoned.

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We stayed Gamboa by Gamboa.

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Only in the capital of São Paulo,

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more than 1,300 federal government properties

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are abandoned or underused.

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Across the country, the Union
has 18,000 unoccupied properties.

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First, we thought:

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\"We have to leave,
because we are occupying,

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is not ours, we have no rights\".

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But in the midst of so many demonstrations,

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in the midst of so many things,
we met people.

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And these people were from
institutes or colleges.

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A human rights person

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came to us and said:

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\"You have the right,
you have to make a council,

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because this region has no council,

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this region is of social interest\".

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So that\'s when we woke up

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and we saw that we had a chance.

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Will you have the 37/38 meeting today?

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As far as I know, no.

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I was told that there will be a meeting,

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something like that.

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If there is, they didn\'t call us,

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-It\'s possible.
-As always.

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As always.

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I think we cause some little problems

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Three blocks are part of a ZEIS,

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which is a Special Zone of Social Interest,

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which are demarcated areas in the city,

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primarily for social housing.

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This means that any intervention

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that happens in that area

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needs a management council
that will deliberate

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and approve or not that intervention.

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And we had gone to court,

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asking that the management
council be formed,

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and it was not formed.

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So the day families came to vote

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in its representatives,
CDHU already gave

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the cardboard boxes

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for them to pack their
things and leave.

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CDHU went there and we\'ve
been waiting for two months

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the money deposit

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it takes 30 days, but it\'s
going to be three months.

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-Damn it.
-And the woman is waiting.

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We need to start systematizing
this, Cassia.

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Put everything on paper,
everything that has problems,

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and make package.

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We put everything together
in a package and pass,

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because then it makes it easier
for you, and makes it easier to speak:

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\"Look at the amount of
trouble this is causing.\"

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The research group I belong to,

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which is the \"Common Place\",

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has the right to the city as an agenda.

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We have tried to advise on the processes

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that are ongoing.

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One of the biggest fights in Gamboa

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continues to be for land regularization,

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and for this ZEIS regulation
to be carried out

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with popular participation.

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The Special Zone of Social Interest

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is an important instrument,
because it ensures

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that this area delimited as ZEIS

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will have its own urban plan,

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no plans that disregard

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exactly this specific dynamic

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of a traditional black fishing community,

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in the city center.

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Historically, this is how it has been.

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All this visibility, for example, from the media,

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with you denouncing all the time,

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but it seems that the very action
of the Public Power...

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It\'s almost nil, right?

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Or it\'s just to procrastinate,
or pretend it\'s producing,

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but they are actually faking it.

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We also believe that it seems
like a purposeful thing.

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This, to me, is proof

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of this denial of the
right to the city.

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Really, I think it\'s
a good observation

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of how the right to
the city is not full,

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does not exist for everyone,
it is extremely selective

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and at the same time it is also a slogan

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highly mobilized by the Public Power,

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during the campaign period, right?

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The right to the city as something important,

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but we see that, in practice,
it does not happen

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to communities that need it most.

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Whether mobility, housing, infrastructure,

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sanitation, everything...

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It\'s very uneven, right?

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As privileged spots receive
even more investment

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and communities that need it most

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they get much less.

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When they built the Sculpture Park,

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which is on the right side of
the Museum of Modern Art

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from Bahia, they took 97 families.

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And their intention was to take
the \"Solar do Unhao\" community

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and take out Gamboa.

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We fight it.

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Also touristy, the center of Salvador

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is a great catcher.

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So, the central area is always a dispute.

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There were several actions here
in the historic center region,

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with extremely disconnected projects

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from the reality of communities.

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The entire removal process

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from block 36 and from Luz itself,

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at first, it was for the
revitalization of the Center.

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In Luz, they deceived
people, saying what?

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\"We\'re going to remove you
and we\'re going to make

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some beautiful and wonderful
buildings here

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that you are going to live.\"

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Most people believed.

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Without you, I wouldn\'t even be
able to enter the city hall,

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you know that, right?

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You know that I, Cassia,
resident of block 36,

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I am a number.

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For the city hall, not for us.

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No, not for you, ever.

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You are more than my fellow workers,

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you are my friends.

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But I think it is precisely this
exchange that is important

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for us, because without
this performance with Cassia

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and with so many other
residents, right, Cassia?

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We couldn\'t have made a plan

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that could be discussed,

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we would not be able to
understand this territory,

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I wouldn\'t be able to think
about public politics.

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And it was really hard.

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It was very difficult! Intense.

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That\'s easy.

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We are talking about a population

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in a situation of
extreme vulnerability,

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of instability and that
they hardly manage to

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commit to

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financing so long and
so expensive, right?

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That doesn\'t fit in people\'s lives.

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The ideal would be for us
to think of a public policy

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that starts from people\'s needs,
not the other way around.

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We have many buildings today

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occupied by those who need housing,

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without any public financing line,

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to say: \"Look, get this funding

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and you can transform that space\".

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This, for me, is thinking
about housing solutions,

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from real problems.

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There are some people who left the house

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without being able to get even
a garment from the body to wear,

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don\'t know what will happen,

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if you\'re going to get a new house,
where will that house be?

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He will only be able to withdraw money,

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of his first Rent
Assistance with the card.

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You got it? And the card has
to be done at the agency,

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at the agency itself.

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But for sure, the card
is already there.

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If he said he didn\'t get it...

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The city hall did not come to us,

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or the Public Power came to us and said:

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\"We\'re going to help you out\", no.

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It was all there in the council,
it was all screaming,

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fighting, in battle, in meetings.

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Sometimes, I come to the court,
because the people who stayed,

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that remained of this old
block that was expropriated,

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which is under construction,

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still need a lot of support,

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that the city government does not provide.

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So they don\'t know who to ask

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about Rent Assistance,
about letter of credit.

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So I\'m the closest person.

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-Hey! How are you?
-Alright, what\'s up?

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Let me tell you something,

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do you know if there will be a
meeting there at the block?

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I don\'t know.

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He had told me that CDHU

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had not yet released the payment.

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-They did the release?
-Of course, I took it there.

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No, no. I\'m talking about releasing
the payment of the apartment.

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Oh, not yet.
It\'s in the expertise...

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-Still?
-They\'re delaying.

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I\'ll guide you tomorrow, okay?

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Goodbye. Be well, be with God.

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Hey!

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I\'m serious, wait, guys.

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I\'ll pull over... It\'s slipping.

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The Social Rent that the city hall has for us

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It\'s a rent of 300 reais.

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We are in the center of Salvador,

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where rent, the least we might find,

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small house, bedroom and living room,

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is 600, 700 reais.

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we believe

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that all this difficulty of securing things

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it\'s the attempt to drive people out.

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My brothers, all of them, live

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directly from the sea, are fishermen, divers,

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they are fishmongers, and we have no interest

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to be far from Gamboa,

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because the sea is our way of surviving.

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We fight for the children,

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we fight for ours,

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we fight for the possibility of having

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own house,

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but entirely, with dignity.

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It\'s not anywhere they want to throw us.

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There is a social mobilization, saying:

00:24:03.442 --> 00:24:05.644
\"I will no longer wait for the state,

00:24:05.644 --> 00:24:07.879
we want to build something different,

00:24:08.046 --> 00:24:10.081
from the bottom up, this is possible\".

00:24:10.182 --> 00:24:13.518
In this groundwork, of those affected

00:24:13.518 --> 00:24:15.587
is the basis of urban transformation

00:24:16.221 --> 00:24:19.324
and social transformation of the country.

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There is all resistance.

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I think the most important thing that we

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got it was the resident to say:
\"I\'m from Gamboa\".

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Today this is a source of pride,

00:24:28.300 --> 00:24:29.468
is the community\'s self-esteem.

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Life goes on

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and we have to raise our heads

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and overcome,

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for tomorrow to be in the fight again.

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And, God willing, tomorrow will have

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even more things for us to do,

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especially here in the block.

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I have Gamboa as my source of life.

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This place makes me stronger

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this place makes me black,

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this place makes me strong,
makes me a woman.

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Around 33 million Brazilians
don\'t have where to live.

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The state of Sao Paulo has the highest housing
deficit in Brazil: 1.8 million of houses.

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From 2017 to June 2019, 28 thousand families
were removed in Sao Paulo metropolitan area.